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[Readster]

I like how Jess returns to the show. Steals his own car with out even deciding to just go talk to Luke. Show he's alright, he's getting things together and just picking up the last of his stuff. But of course, this is Jess, dumbass.

[KKennedy]

Jess tells Rory he loves her.
From gilmoregirls.org

[Readster]

You know if Rory takes Jess back because he tells her he loves her, I'm going to freak. Her respondse should be: "If you really love me, then why did you leave?"

[MarissaAvid]

I doubt that's even his intent, Readster. Based on what we know, it doesn't sound like he comes back for her. We obviously don't know the circumstances of their meeting, but perhaps it's unexpected. Maybe she's mad at him. Maybe she needs some kind of answer of what she meant to him. If anything, I think it's likely that he'll tell her so that she knows what the relationship meant to him. And that's it. So there's peace of mind.
I doubt he's asking for her to take him back. Maybe forgiveness, but not a reconciliation.

[pathwatch]

They're skipping the Girls altogether next week and showing Austin Powers. I love those movies, but I would prefer a new installment of GG. oh well.

[KKennedy]

Bascially the first episode Rory sees Jess and says that she "can't handle it now" or something akin to that
Second episode Rory and Jess have a convo where he tells her that he loves her
I doubt anything significant will happen, maybe resolve their issue since Jess is leaving after three eps.

[ItsAboutLife]

I'm kind of a lurker, and this might have been mentioned before but...

Now, even though I like jess and perfer him to Dean(I know it's a very unpopular opinion here, but I don't hate Dean, I just got a little tired of him) does one of the new promos say, "Rory's first love return," and they look like they are talking about Jess? Now I might like jess more then dean, but even I know that Dean was her first love!

[BigBallofAnge]

Since the normal spoiler sources seem a bit slow (still on Xmas vacation, maybe?), here's a few details from the sides for Ep 13. I'm sure someone will be along with more complete summaries before long.

It appears that Lane sort of "ran away" earlier in this episode or in a previous episode; we find her living with Rory at Yale. Later she goes and apologizes to Luke for taking off on him, and asking for her job back; Luke accepts. I'm not sure whether Lane is back with her mom at that point.

The other side which I found interesting was for a professor. Rory goes to see him to find out what grade she got on her paper; I think she is expecting an A. He surprises her by saying her paper was no good because she obviously used research from another class which was off topic, because she is overworking herself and didn't have the time to do the proper research for the paper. He says he talked to her other profs (which is mildly unrealistic, but what the hey), and they agree that she is in over her head. He tells her she should drop the class.

Rory: But...I'm taking the same amount of courses as my roommate.
Prof: Different students work at different paces. You shouldn't compare yourself to anyone else. You work at a slower pace.
Rory: I don't. I'm...
Prof: Trust me on this. Drop the course.

I hope they leave this scene intact, it's delicious.

[BigBallofAnge]

The research from the other class was off topic for the paper she was supposed to be writing (she was supposed to be writing on game theory, but ended up using research about pollution in Mexico from another class). I'm sure if the research from another class had been relevant, it wouldn't have been a problem.

I still don't think it's particularly realistic that this prof would take it upon himself to seek her other profs to chat about her. More likely, he would contact her freshman advisor, or if they wanted to be really true to Yale, the dean of her residential college. Then the freshman advisor or dean would contact her other professors to see if there were a problem.

[BigBallofAnge]

I don't think it has anything to do with Paris, I think it's the natural continuation of the storyline they've been setting up for Rory all season. Back in Stars Hollow (and at Chilton), Rory was Queen of the World. She was the prettiest, smartest, all-around superior bundle of joy adored by one and all.

Ever since she started at Yale, that's begining to change. I don't know if that was the plan all along, or if TPTB realized that people were getting just a little bit sick of her. In any case, all season long we've been seeing Rory learn some hard lessons. She is not god's gift to men (first the awkward blind date, then the rejection by laundry boy who is apparently coming back to humiliate her further). She has had some trouble fitting into college life (like having problems finding a place to study). Her first attempts at writing for the Daily were not a success. Now she's having some problems academically, which is not surprising given that she has difficulty concentrating on studying with everything else going on around her. I think this is just part of the process of Rory learning that outside of Stars Hollow, she is a Mere Mortal.

[Readster]

I know for a fact that the TPTB, intended to throw things at Rory. Showing that things were different at Yale then in Starshollow. They just did it more slowly and concentrated on Loreli and Christopher and Luke's current relationship problems. You also notice, Lane is now coming more forward, which was also the plan. However, only so much screen time. Though the actress who plays Lane said that they were moving her character forward and trying to get out of the control of Mama Kim. Rory of course boy problems come to the front again the next few episodes with Jess returning, the problems with Laundry Guy and then Dean and her new romantic interest that show up after Jess does another exit again. One thing I wish they put to the front is Richard and Rory telling Emily and Loreli to actually work their problems out. Or lock the two in a room for 2 days. Least they keep a maide around longer then a week then.

[soapygirl]

Amy Sherman Palladino has said in interviews that she's a little frustrated with the fan response of what we want with the Rory storylines fist we want her to suffer and then we don't like it when she's suffering.

I am still at times frustated with Gilmore Girls and it massive gaps in reality but for the most part I think Rory's struggles with studying, making new friends and guys is a decent relfection of how the average freshmen experience is. My first semester of freshmen year wasn't god awful but I remember feeling out of sorts a lot of the time.

I just hope that this will be a growing experience for Rory and that that the writers won't just say next season "Okay let's stop picking on Rory...get her a boyfriend, straight A's and oh how about a 'Princess of Yale' crown?"

And I hope the Lorelai and Lane spoilers are true. It could be a really interesting storyline if Lorelai becomes kind of a mentor figure to Lane, kind of coming full circle to how Mia used to looked after Lorelai.

[LadySmith]

It could be a really interesting storyline if Lorelai becomes kind of a mentor figure to Lane, kind of coming full circle to how Mia used to looked after Lorelai.

Not mention how Rory would take it, since she's used to having Lorelai all to herself. Methinks there could be some tension in this story line. It would be great to see more of Lane and her growth.

Edited by LadySmith, Jan 13, 2004 @ 2:29 PM.

[Readster]

I see Loreali having first an ackwards tage with Lane. Like Lane trying not to offend her for doing things a normal 19 would do. I see Lane finally feeling like she can be herself. No more hiding, no more afraid to be herself and want what she wants in life. Which could lead to some more interesting things later on with Rory and definanly Mama Kim. Who could later confront Loreali saying she ruin her daughter. Leading Loreali to tell off Mama Kim, which someone should of done a long time ago, but is so afraid of her.

[not working]

I love that Rory will have to drop a class (though the idea of any of MY undergrad professors talking to each other without throwing poisonous verbal darts, let alone discussing little old ME in the hallway, is highly amusing). I love the message that there are more complicated ways to understand what it means to be smart than what shows up on a transcript. Every time I read another news article about the kind of super-programming that high school students go through just to get into college, I get a little more scared. I think it's great that Rory is going to have to give a little more thought to how her education defines her. That's what sets her apart from Paris, after all; she knows how to relate to people and pick out the intellectual material that interests her, rather than simply rack up resume items. Word to the academic struggles. No one learns when they're too comfortable. Sorry - teacher in training waxing poetic here. Shutting up now.

[dhb]

I don't think anybody's posted this. There's some new spoilers over at Gilmore-girls.net. Some pictures from the upcoming episode of Rory and Paris wearing paper hats and this about episode 15. Apparently Lane is setting a bad example. :)

Lane's aunt and fifteen-year-old cousin are at the Kim house. Aunt Jun and Mrs. Kim are going to stay in the kitchen while Christine helps Lane pack. She's officially moving out. Mrs. Kim tells her to write down how many boxes and how much tape she uses so she can take inventory. In the presence of Aunt Jun and Mrs. Kim, Christine is quiet. In Lane's room she won't shut up. "No female Kim has ever moved out without getting married," she says. She loves the floorboards and wonders if she could do the same thing at her house.

Christine is described as "bubbly, energetic, and very into pop culture and music- like Lane, she must hide her personality from her strict Korean mother."

[BigBallofAnge]

Also in ep 15, it looks like Lane is moving in with the boys in her band? (That's who Brian and Zack are, right? I never paid very much attention to the Lane's band storyline, because by the time I started watching the show Lane had already gotten boring).

Dean and Lindsey make an appearance. She calls him Deany. She seems really immature, but I guess that's the whole point. As long as they don't have Dean make any confessions to Rory that he made a huge mistake and he still loves her, I'll be happy. Can't wait to see what promo guy has to say.

Finally, we get to see how Emily shops. I'm really looking forward to this part, Kelly Bishop should have a lot of fun with it.

[Readster]

So, Lane is the first Kim to move out with out getting married first. Man, this just does not make me like the Kim family much. You think, that they would try to come into the 21st century some. I like Christina already.

[wounded]

I sucks, but I guess one must understand that some families still go by the traditions and values from back in their village/home country. It's a not to make Mrs. Kim and the rest of the Kims look bad; it's just what they know. It'd be nice if they understood that things are different in America, but that's where Lane's Americanization and rebellion comes in! I mean, I loathe my mother for thinking she can keep me at home with her till I'm married (nearly 22 and still living at home), but I kinda understand where she's coming from. But, a first-generationer in N. America must follow her own instincts and do as she pleases. The 'rents will be unhappy, but, hopefully, will learn to deal.

[Umlauts]

Not to mention she never told Dean she loved him

Uh...

Rory to Dean: I love you, you idiot!
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RORY: I don’t know what I was doing. Maybe it’s because I haven’t dated a lot but this Jess thing was crazy. And I do love Dean and you were absolutely right – I was treating him like dirt and I wasn’t appreciating what was right in front of me, but I’m going to now.
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RORY to Dean: I really did love you. Please believe that.

Milo wants Jess to be killed off. I don't know if dreams really do come true, or if they take more than 3 episodes.

[Umlauts]

That second Rory quote about loving Dean was said when she returned from NY and was so upset for missing Lorelai's graduation.

No, Hiker, the second quote is in Lazy Hazy Crazy Days after Rory sees Jess and Shane slobbering all over each other, while she's hugging Dean. I wasn't really trying to establish that Rory was in love with Dean, I just noticed that the Pooh Bear said Rory never told Dean she loved him, which was false. She did so on more than one occasion.

Spoilers? Lorelai the Third (Gran, Trix, Marion Ross, take your pick) is in episode 16, written by Jane Espenson.

Edited by Umlauts, Jan 20, 2004 @ 11:22 PM.