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#61

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Posted Jul 28, 2013 @ 8:31 AM

Tor.com has a really good perspective on the movie:

 

Good article - I liked the one that was linked in it - The Visual Intelligence of Pacific Rim - I'm not particularly visual and I enjoyed reading (hah!) about that perspective; I didn't make the connection between Mako's blue hair and her jacket, though I don't feel quite so unobservant because I did realize that when she first sees Stacker, it is a child's idealized perspective of the man who saved her.

 

Where's that movie, Hollywood?

 

My guess is the SyFy channel is making it right now.


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Posted Jul 28, 2013 @ 8:46 AM

Where's that movie, Hollywood?

Chicken Run?


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Posted Jul 28, 2013 @ 3:57 PM

The Visual Intelligence of Pacific Rim

That would have been fine for me if there was more consistency with the treatment of the characters. Yes, it is fine that there are characters whose personalities we see through their actions, but they are hardly mute; we just don't hear them speak. The Russians and the triplets are not bound by "Japanese" traditions of politeness or whatever. I know for a fact that Hong Kongers, including women, talk a lot. The film just doesn't care to portray them much. 



This movie was extremely talky, unnecessarily talky. It is just that a lot of the dialogue was utterly stupid or ridiculous. It is fine if one can ignore that, but I couldn't. Not only could I not ignore it, I could not ignore the totally unequal distribution of dialogue. That is not a numbers game, that is a matter of balance and harmony.


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Posted Jul 28, 2013 @ 9:07 PM

I was blown-away, so much so I could easily ignore the plot holes big enough to drive a jaeger through for the sake of the sheer enjoyment factor. Saw it Saturday with some friends and though hardly anyone was in the theater but even still I heard two people clapping at the end. The movie had me at the moment Gypsy Danger was lowered, being put together for the mission, water dripping down her sides in rivulets, the epic music rising, the rousing feel of the impending battle. Added bonus that they brothers tried to save the fishing crew. At the moment the men are about to be swatted at by the kaiju, but just then, a blinding white light appears behind them, hero to the rescue, I said to myself, 'hell yeah, this is what I'm talking about'.

 

Can we talk about those kick-ass fight scenes? Favorite by far was the double event. Both monsters were brutally effective but by far the more reptile guy wins. When it seemed like he was down for the count but suddenly his wings expanded, incredible, it was almost funny how cool he was. Seriously, Peter J to be sure saw this movie and at once got down to reworking Smaug, who looked paltry compared to the kaiju. Unfortunately, from what I saw in the trailer, he'll have to work since last year to make him as badass as Toro's invention. 

 

GlaDOS was a lovely addition. I actually wish I'd heard more of her, certainly if it could mean less of Raleigh's exposition, or better yet, let Mako do more talking. They want to keep her the silent type fine but Charlie H has a voice extremely suitable for some things but constant explanation ain't one of them.

 

Oh, and I can't leave before mentioning my favorite weapon (Or at least of those we really saw. Would have killed for a real battle with Thundercloud Formation) was the sword. Both times. How it saved the day against Reptile, and then how it eviscerated one of the triple event. 

 

I am definitely sad it didn't perform well at the box office but glad I got to see it on the big screen.


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Posted Jul 29, 2013 @ 6:38 AM

Can we talk about those kick-ass fight scenes? Favorite by far was the double event. Both monsters were brutally effective but by far the more reptile guy wins. When it seemed like he was down for the count but suddenly his wings expanded, incredible, it was almost funny how cool he was.

 

Wasn't that Kaiju (Otachi) a female? It's the one that had the baby that ate Hannibal Chau.

 

As a Brit, I did like that even though we're not on the Pacific, we still had a British representative in the fight - Stacker Pentecost. (And the annoying scientist, but we won't dwell on him). And I thought it was funny that both the American and one of the Australians (Rob Kazinsky) were played by Brits too.

 

Charlie Hunnam's acting has improved a lot over the years (seriously - watch Green Street Hooligans to see how bad he used to be), and he made a decent heroic lead I thought.

 

I was glad, like others, that even though there was a budding romance between Raleigh and Mako, that she wasn't just the love interest and was one of the Rangers too - and she got one of the most impressive kills, of the flying Kaiju using the sword, too. The Russian woman Ranger was cool too, I would have liked to have seen more of her and her husband (and the Chinese triplets).

 

I really enjoyed the film - I went into it expecting a big, fun action movie of huge robots fighting monsters, and that's what I got. Job done.


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Posted Jul 29, 2013 @ 3:11 PM

Now I can only imagine mice flying in little mouse-sized helicopters to drop a man-sized mouse Jaeger to try and fight me over my house. Where's that movie, Hollywood?

 

ETA: And of course, the mice would have to also be drag queens.

 

Seriously: there's no way the movie could be more entertaining than this thread. But I might have to see it just to make sure.


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Posted Jul 29, 2013 @ 3:38 PM

Now I can only imagine mice flying in little mouse-sized helicopters to drop a man-sized mouse Jaeger to try and fight me over my house. Where's that movie, Hollywood?

 

So we see the mouse choppers deposit the mousy jaeger on your front door. It knocks. You answer.

'Yes?'

(In a Mickey Mouse voice) 'I am a Jaeger! The apocalypse has been cancelled!'

You: 'What? I never ordered an apocalypse. Honey, there's a Mr. Jaeger here for the apocalypse. He says it's cancelled. Did you order an apocalypse?'


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Posted Aug 5, 2013 @ 6:27 AM

The Editing Room's abridged script for this movie hits basically all the plot holes.  I even liked Pacific Rim, but enjoyed TER's piece too.

CHARLIE HUNNAM

And why do you need MY help exactly?

IDRIS ELBA

Because you're the last pilot alive who can operate the Mark III. Now come with me so I can match you with one of two dozen trainees who are all qualified to operate the Mark III.


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Posted Aug 9, 2013 @ 5:36 PM

thought it was funny that both the American and one of the Australians (Rob Kazinsky) were played by Brits too

 

And the other Australian was played by an American (Max Martini), and the American's dead brother was played by a Canadian (Diego Klattenhoff).


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Posted Aug 11, 2013 @ 12:48 PM

Rob Kazinsky continues to win me over. The guy's like the second coming of Ben Browder!


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Posted Aug 13, 2013 @ 12:19 AM

" As if the dimples weren't deadly enough, he's a geek too?!? I can say nothing more that's SFW.


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Posted Aug 13, 2013 @ 3:34 PM

An enthusiastic geek with a British accent, no less.


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Posted Aug 13, 2013 @ 5:24 PM

When Kazinsky was on East Enders, he got suspended from the show for some obscene texts he was repeatedly sending to a girl, he had to issue an apology to get back on the show.


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Posted Oct 1, 2013 @ 8:05 PM

I really enjoyed it, the fighting was great and liked who different take it was with the Jaegers.


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Posted Oct 17, 2013 @ 3:14 PM

I loved this movie way more than I expected to. Saw it in IMAX 3D and it was awesome. The format really complemented the sheer size and scale of the Jaegers and Kaiju.

 

 

 

First of all, don't ever touch me. Second of all, don't ever touch me."[

 

That was awesome. Even more awesome is that it was apparently ad-libbed by Elba.

 

 

 

Are we really supposed to believe that 8 Chinook helicopters are capable of lifting something with more iron in it than a battleship?

 

I admit that I laughed my ass off at that. They spent ten hours showing us the massive scale of these things and then 8 dinky little choppers can carry them out to the middle of the ocean? I was all “uhhh, what now?”

 

Kudos to the actress who played young Mako. Her terror was palpable.

 

I loved the music. The blaring guitar riffs at certain key moments certainly added a “fuck, yeah!” oomph to the proceedings.


Edited by NoWillToResist, Oct 17, 2013 @ 3:30 PM.

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Posted Oct 20, 2013 @ 12:40 PM

Just watched this movie, after dismissing it on release as another silly blockbuster. Well, it is a silly blockbuster, but it's damned enjoyable and exciting.

 

Somehow, Del Toro manages to make giant robots fighting giant lizards interesting, exciting and thrilling, whereas Michael Bay's giant robots fighting each other was pure snoozeville. I think it has something to do with weight. The effects in this movie convinced me completely that the Jaeger's were huge, metal monsters that weighed tons, that could hit with the power of... well, with the power of a huge metal fist. And the Kaiju's had an organic density and weight to them too. I forgot I was watching CGI, and genuinely bought into the idea of these gigantic things pounding and tearing each other to pieces. There's something about ships wallowing in rough seas that always connects with me in a sort of 'nature is scary, but cool' way, so most of the fight scenes obviously worked for me.

 

And, unlike most action movies, I was actually invested in those big CGI scenes. The Kaiju were genuinely intimidating and the damage they did visceral, whether it was to the Jaegers or to the cities that they seemed to enjoy stomping so much. There were times when I was actually concerned that characters were going to die and Jaegers were going to be destroyed. And generally, they were destroyed.

 

Loved the designs of the different Jaegers too. Especially the Russian one. I know they were intended to evoke the cultures they came from, and Cherno Alpha did look like a huge, Soviet era war machine. I just wish there had been more of them, because I do like futuristic military tech/porn, when it's done right. Still, I do have to question one thing; why on earth did it take them so long to give these things swords? That one on Gipsy Alpha sliced through two Kaiju with barely any effort, yet they spend most of their time fighting with big metal fists. Silly. They have the tech to build these things, but their primary armament still appears to be those fists, with some guns as backup weapons. Why not build them just bristling with big sharp blades? Ah, I'm getting into Robot Wars territory now.

 

I couldn't help but laugh at the absurd earnestness of those synchronised 'we're making the Jaeger walk now' scenes. Goofy as hell.

 

The acting wasn't great, but it didn't need to be. I'll never understand what anyone sees in Idris Elba, who has been nothing but a block of wood in everything I've seen him in. And I don't know why they cast Charlie Hunnam and Rob Krazinsky, given that they look so bloody similar. Took me the first twenty minutes to figure out they were different people. Max Martini was good, though. And Rinko Kikuchi too. She was actually the heart of the human side of the movie, in my view. A nicely restrained but pathos-loaded performance. It didn't hurt that she looked very fetching in that armour suit, either.


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Posted Oct 20, 2013 @ 11:46 PM

I liked that Max Martini wasn't all brimming over with celebration at the victory like everyone else in the shatterdome, given that his kid just went kablooey in the jaeger that wasn't equipped with the magic indestructible homing escape pods.


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Posted Oct 21, 2013 @ 6:29 PM

 

I'll never understand what anyone sees in Idris Elba, who has been nothing but a block of wood in everything I've seen him in

 

I don't know if you've seen The Wire or Luther but he is excellent in both IMO


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Posted Oct 22, 2013 @ 2:18 PM


I liked that Max Martini wasn't all brimming over with celebration at the victory like everyone else in the shatterdome, given that his kid just went kablooey in the jaeger that wasn't equipped with the magic indestructible homing escape pods.

 
 

 
I don't think that his kid would have been okay, even with a magic indestructible homing escape pod. The explosion is so powerful it actually clears all the water from that spot, leaving the seabed bare and loads of fish flapping about. Still, that doesn't mean they couldn't have tried to get him out. And they could have let him have a last talk with his dad, like Elba did with his surrogate daughter. Benefits of being the boss, I guess.
 
Still, that raises the question of why they didn't just fire a nuke at the rift before sending the Jaegers, to kill those Kaijus that were hanging about there, then have the Jaegers stroll in unchallenged.
 

 


I don't know if you've seen The Wire or Luther but he is excellent in both IMO

 
 

 
I've seen a couple of episodes of Luther, but it seemed to be just another of the BBC's countless cop/crime dramas, and not a particularly good one. I barely remember anything about the main character at all.
 
The Wire is still on my 'to watch someday when I have the time' list. But I think that if anything could convince me that Elba is good, it would be that.

Edited by Danny Franks, Oct 22, 2013 @ 4:58 PM.

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Posted Nov 13, 2013 @ 2:28 PM

Finally watched this. I actually really enjoyed it. Sure, it was dumb, but it was also really entertaining. 

 

Did I hear correctly that the guy who looks exactly like Colin Ferguson was in the robot named Stryker Eureka? There is no way that is a coincidence, right?


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Posted Nov 22, 2013 @ 11:47 AM

Still, that raises the question of why they didn't just fire a nuke at the rift before sending the Jaegers, to kill those Kaijus that were hanging about there, then have the Jaegers stroll in unchallenged.

 

I'm mostly ignorant about nukes so forgive me if this is a dumb question: can nukes be sent through water? The Jaegers were, in both cases, the delivery systems; someone had to deliver the payload. Doesn't a nuke have a countdown device or is this just a Hollywood contrivance? Could a nuke have just been put in a sub's missile system and torpedoed?


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Posted Nov 22, 2013 @ 5:18 PM

I don't know if subs can fire a nuke at a deep underwater target, but I'm pretty sure they could have strapped one to a minisub and remote-controlled it to the breach. For that matter, just having a fleet anchored over the breach dropping big depth charges whenever kaiju emerge as a long-term strategy would probably work better than building a wall around the entire Pacific too.


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Posted Jan 5, 2014 @ 10:56 PM

I finally saw this, and I think this is one of those films to be seen in a theater in order to fully appreciate it.  It was fine, but it felt too long, and I really think the bickering scientists' subplot could have been dropped altogether (especially since a key point made seemed to be dropped for no reason).  Ankai's earlier posts pretty much sum up my issues with the film, so no need to rehash.  Thankfully, I got the DVD for free.    


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