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Posted Apr 8, 2013 @ 8:40 AM

The logistics of all this just makes my brain hurt.

Honestly, I think this would have made more sense if the show had done a time jump of a few months, and they'd picked back up with "The documentary crew is back, because they want to round out the documentary by showing us seeing the promos of ourselves". But the idea that the documentary is about to air, but they're still filming? Huh?

On the other hand, it's a tv show. And I really should just let it go and not overthink this.

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Posted Apr 8, 2013 @ 4:18 PM

The problem with this storyline for me is that they're writing it as if Pam would be making this huge sacrifice by agreeing to move to Philly but there's been no explanation of what she'd actually be giving up.


It seems like there would actually be more opportunities for her in Philly. She might be a smaller fish in a bigger pond and less likely to get things like mural commissions, but if she still has an interest in art, there are museums to visit and probably community arts organizations where she could pursue more training as a hobby and exhibit her own art. She could look for jobs as a receptionist or administrative assistant at a museum or art organization, which would be a way to transition into her having a career involving her personal interests, the way Jim did. And didn't she describe her ideal home as being in a city where she'd be close to museums and cultural things when she and Jim were clashing about their dream homes? He was the one who wanted to live on a mountain where he could go hiking and biking, and she was the one who wanted the city. So now she's upset because he's pursuing an opportunity that might require her to relocate to what she once described as her ideal living situation?

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Posted Apr 9, 2013 @ 1:52 AM

I was a little disappointed by this episode.

The jokes felt flat, although I like the new characters a lot, especially new-Dwight.

I understand the Jim/Pam dynamic and her reluctance to move to Philly. But she's got to understand that there is no almost no way Jim can move back to Scranton now with his head held high. If his business is a success, he has to stay in Phila. If he fails, he may move back to Scranton but does he come back to DM? It would be really hard to go back to becoming a paper salesman after he's rubbed elbows with athletes.

One thing that bothered me about Brian, was why was he offering Pam a beer in the afternoon? Trying to get her drunk, maybe. It felt a little inappropriate.

ETA: Someone like Phyllis or Meredith should tell Pam to get her butt to Philly ASAP!

ETA: Someone else should start blasting Midnight Train to Georgia... And give Beasley a hint!

Edited by Haiti D, Apr 9, 2013 @ 3:29 AM.


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Posted Apr 9, 2013 @ 12:33 PM

So many questions!!

For starters, why exactly are the film crew continuing to film Jim and Darryl in their new job? If the focus of the documentary is the paper company, who would care about their new side venture? Also, if that were indeed the case, then why did no one follow Michael or anyone else who left?

Then, who was filming Brian and Pam talking? What sense would there be in a member of the film crew filming another member of the film crew interacting with one of the actors? Surely they know they can't show that.

And of course, if the documentary is already set to be aired - as it must be, if they've got promos and an air date - then why would the crew CONTINUE to shoot? They wouldn't be taping until the night the pilot airs.

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Posted Apr 9, 2013 @ 12:57 PM

And of course, if the documentary is already set to be aired - as it must be, if they've got promos and an air date - then why would the crew CONTINUE to shoot? They wouldn't be taping until the night the pilot airs.


At this point, the documentary concept has become a house of cards that falls apart if you look it it too hard. Which is why I thought it was a mistake to have it become such a huge storyline.

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Posted Apr 9, 2013 @ 1:15 PM

And of course, if the documentary is already set to be aired - as it must be, if they've got promos and an air date - then why would the crew CONTINUE to shoot? They wouldn't be taping until the night the pilot airs.

They may be putting together the equivalent of the "After the Final Rose" kind of thing -- a special "where are they now?" episode to follow the documentary. So, the main thing may have been finished, but they're doing an epilogue to wrap up all the story lines.

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Posted Apr 9, 2013 @ 1:39 PM

They may be putting together the equivalent of the "After the Final Rose" kind of thing -- a special "where are they now?" episode to follow the documentary.


But they've never stopped filming. Where are they now? Pretty much right where we left them.

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Posted Apr 9, 2013 @ 6:31 PM

And didn't she describe her ideal home as being in a city where she'd be close to museums and cultural things when she and Jim were clashing about their dream homes? He was the one who wanted to live on a mountain where he could go hiking and biking, and she was the one who wanted the city. So now she's upset because he's pursuing an opportunity that might require her to relocate to what she once described as her ideal living situation?

I guess Pam's problem isn't with Philly, it's with Philly Jim.

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Posted Apr 9, 2013 @ 9:58 PM

For starters, why exactly are the film crew continuing to film Jim and Darryl in their new job? If the focus of the documentary is the paper company, who would care about their new side venture? Also, if that were indeed the case, then why did no one follow Michael or anyone else who left?

I think both can still fit in with the documentary idea. At least Jim is still employed, at least part-time, at D-M. Maybe they want to feature how people escape these dead-end jobs and what they go on to do?

Also, if they are a documentary crew, they can't just fly to CO or wherever Michael ended up. Philly is much more feasible for them to go film.

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Posted Apr 10, 2013 @ 9:54 AM

Also, if they are a documentary crew, they can't just fly to CO or wherever Michael ended up. Philly is much more feasible for them to go film.

Possibly. But, don't forget, this crew has somehow had the budget to follow the DM folks around for NINE YEARS. Considering that they've been taping every work day, all day long, presumably this was their full-time gig for that whole period.

Also, don't forget that the crew has followed our characters to a number of non-Scranton places -- for instance, Pam and Jim's wedding in Niagara Falls, Florida during the Sabre episodes, and going with Jim to Connecticut during the short time he had transferred out.

Yeah, I know, I know. The logic, it just ain't here.

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Posted Apr 10, 2013 @ 7:20 PM

I think it still works, in weird logic, that those events were related to working in paper company. Michael turned Jim and Pam's wedding into an office trip (whether or not that was appropriate is another story). Jim still worked for D-M in CT, and going to FL was a company-related trip. I could also see Holly just not wanting the cameras around.

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Posted Apr 10, 2013 @ 8:09 PM

Also, don't forget that the crew has followed our characters to a number of non-Scranton places -- for instance, Pam and Jim's wedding in Niagara Falls, Florida during the Sabre episodes, and going with Jim to Connecticut during the short time he had transferred out.

Didn't they say something earlier this season when Jim and Pam were talking to the documentarians about how they were following Jim and Pam's personal stories? The documentary may be set in the office, but it's about the people who work there, and like any documentary or reality series, they have storylines. Jim and Pam's life is one of the storylines here, and I think that started at the beginning when they were focusing on the unrequited love angle, so after "Casino Night" they'd naturally follow Jim, and after all the build-up, they'd have to do the wedding. Now Jim's new business is a final chapter in their story, either what tears their marriage apart or what will allow them to move on and away from the office.

Do we know if this is going to be a one-shot documentary, or is it a documentary series with multiple episodes? If it's multiple episodes, then they could still be filming in spite of the earlier episodes being ready to air.

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Posted Apr 11, 2013 @ 11:34 AM

Nine part series, all airing the same month from what this episode told us.

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Posted Apr 11, 2013 @ 2:55 PM

The documentary concept has never bothered me because I think it has worked well as a framework for the show. If nothing else, it provides a rationale for all the private comments aired to the camera crew in the talking head shots. A nine-year shoot makes no sense from any sort of real-world film production standpoint, but this is Sitcomland Scranton so I don't really care, and I like the way the filming itself has become part of the story in these final weeks.

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Posted Apr 11, 2013 @ 4:40 PM

Then, who was filming Brian and Pam talking? What sense would there be in a member of the film crew filming another member of the film crew interacting with one of the actors? Surely they know they can't show that.

That, at least, makes sense to me because we know that Brian was fired several weeks ago and we've already seen them filming Brian a couple of times - when he and Pam talked about his being fired, when Pam and Jim met him for lunch on Valentines Day - so he's really not a part of the film crew anymore. Why neither he nor Pam would realize that the crew would be filming them, however, is another question.

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Posted Apr 12, 2013 @ 8:29 AM

And of course, conveniently enough, Brian didn't seem to have any curtains or blinds in his windows, so we could fully see him and Pam...

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Posted Apr 16, 2013 @ 3:49 PM

After i saw a promo for Dunder Mifflin documentary, i got curious. From which episodes is this 2 moments? One with the mask and with the chair?
This one and
this one.

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Posted Apr 16, 2013 @ 6:51 PM

Michael's hair in the first photo looks like it must be from season one. The chair one is from Michael's Birthday, right?

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Posted Apr 17, 2013 @ 10:57 AM

Michael's hair in the first photo looks like it must be from season one. The chair one is from Michael's Birthday, right?


That was my take on both as well. I guess the first one will be the closest we ever get to a S1 blooper.

Edited by Col Bat Guano, Apr 22, 2013 @ 10:40 AM.


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Posted Apr 22, 2013 @ 10:33 AM

While I can understand that it would be shocking to the Dunder-Mifflinites that the documentary would seemingly focus more on their personal lives than on the business end of things, I find it a little hard to believe that they are surprised that the film crews following them around for the last decade would have caught private moments over the years. Especially since many of those moments occurred at work. Not to mention that the film crew has clearly been around during after hours gatherings, be they work related or not. Pam complaining about having had no privacy is rather disingenuous on her part. The film crew was there for Pam and Jim's wedding, CeCe's baptism, CeCe's recital, and a whole lot of other things that had nothing to do with the paper industry.


I can buy that they would have forgot the camera crew was there. I have read interviews with people who are in reality shows (like the kind that just follow you around) and I have read in more than one interview that the people eventually just forget the cameras are there and stop trying to censor themselves.

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Posted Apr 22, 2013 @ 10:51 AM

I can buy that they would have forgot the camera crew was there.


Given the number of times they look directly at the camera, I have a hard time buying that idea.