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[OwlsGo]

She has a partner that is at least in good shape, which could translate to dancing ability.

[Kerri Johnson]

Posted by Kerri Johnson Nov 5, 2012 @ 10:02 PM #5
I saw Witney Carson and Lindsay Arnold from SYTYCD rehearsing in that AT&T dance. Please, show do not bring them on

http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?showtopic=3215923

I swear I fucking knew they would do this. She didn't impress me at all on SYTYCD. I think Witney would've been better.

[Sunnyheart]

She didn't impress me at all on SYTYCD.

I am floored that they picked her as a pro. She's like a high school kid that won a contest to be a pro for a day. If TPTB think she's the new Julianne, they will be sorely disappointed.

[oakgal]

I just remembered, isn't Lindsay (along with Witney) a student of Mark's? I think this is correct, which explains how she managed to weasel her way onto the show. Ridiculous.

[OwlsGo]

If they wanted an SYTYCD import, they should've gone with Iveta (But she's on Strictly Come Dancing, so that's a moot point). I think knowing Mark Ballas is what got her on the show.

She only had one competitive Latin routine and didn't have ballroom at all.

[Sunnyheart]

Her audition for SYTYCD is what I remember. I thought for sure they would pass on her - she looked terrible to me, but of course, she's blonde and cute so Nigel put her through. There have been plenty of other SYTYCD ballroom dancers that would have been a better choice than Lindsey.

[katdlf]

She's never been shy about her ambition to join DWTS. I remember seeing this interview after her elimination from SYTYCD, and this tweet from Mark at that time. I thought she either was dreaming, or aiming for a spot in the troupe. But now she's a pro, so maybe this has been in the works for awhile.

She did dance for Mark's team in that Ballroom Battle thing with Brandon Armstrong. Ever since Brandon and Brittany Cherry won that first kids' competition on DWTS, I figured they would keep an eye on him as a potential future pro. And last season, we saw Brittany in some pro numbers.

Looks like they are actively scouting younger dancers. Maybe those Utah kids (and their cross-training) are on a fast track? With Mark and Val turning 27 this spring, there should be an opening for a young male pro very soon.

[Thirteenthjuror]

I knew like a few others that watched SYTYCD last season that DWTS would recruit her. Nigel had a serious hard on for her and Witney last season and I can only chalk it up to the blond effect and him liking Mark and the DWTS connection. I didn't care for either her or Witney, but I always thought that Witney was the better of the two. She was more dynamic and had star quality. I was never impressed with either of their Latin technique on the show, however. Hopefully, she can show us more on this show than she did on the other because I was never impressed with her dance wise, or personality.

I said it before that the show keeps trying to recreate Julianne and it's not working. It especially won't work with Lindsay. Maybe Witney. That's a big maybe in quotations.

[joylove]

Totally agree. She and Witney always reminded me of SYTYCD's season 3's Sara; they may have had a little bit of ballroom training (or b-boy training, in Sara's case) so Nigel categorized them as that, but they probably had much, much more contemporary training.

I will say I have seen people with very little previous ballroom training learn (and learn to teach others) pretty quickly and well, so who knows. However her ballroom dances bored me to tears on SYTYCD, so I'm not optimistic about her chances of doing well on DWTS.

[Zuleikha]

Lindsay's bio is pretty easy to find since Dancesport rankings are high. It's inaccurate to imply that she's really a contemporary dancer with a little bit of ballroom training. She's a Dancesport competition dancer and decently ranked. She is not a champion like Val, Lacey, Julianne, and Karina, but Lindsay and her partner won a bunch of smaller competitions and placed highly in the national ones.

We also barely saw Lindsay dance Dancesport in SYTYCD, so I don't think we've seen enough to really know what her technique is like. We certainly have no idea what her choreography is like since Dancesport competition solos aren't reflective of how people will choreograph for others.

I'm not optimistic about her doing well on DwtS because she clearly lacked an ability to connect with the audience on SYTCD. However, I do think I saw a lot more of her personality in some of Cole's behind-the-scenes home videos, so there's a chance she may surprise us all.

[Sunnyheart]

I don't think her technical ability (or lack of) will be the problem - it's that she is void of any ooomph or pizazz. Say what you will about Lacey's technique and inexperience with ballroom when she started on DWTS, she had personality to spare and sparkled every time she danced. She also understood how to choreograph a dance to make it exciting or interesting. If Lindsey can't overcome her basic blahness, she's in trouble.

she clearly lacked an ability to connect with the audience on SYTCD.

ITA.

[dwtswatcher]

According to TV Guide, she had been campaigning to be on DWTS for the last two years, even before she did SYTYCD.

[Sunnyheart]

Well, I gave her two weeks and IMO she's probably the worst pro partner they've ever picked for DWTS. I don't think she handled Victor's meltdown very well - at one point, she looked into the camera like a deer in headlights - and her dancing is not good enough to cover for her partner's lack of ability. All the pros at some time have had inept partners, but they "overdance" or choreograph to cover the flaws. Lindsey danced almost as badly as Victor. She's truly terrible. I hope she's not asked back.

[katdlf]

The last time I wished a pro wouldn't come back, Peta came back with Donald.

[sintin]

I don't dislike her, but I don't think she should have been chosen as a new pro; like Chelsie (and Peta) she just doesn't have the force of personality to be the kind of effective teacher and coach that's needed to succeed on this show. Kym, Lacey, Cheryl, Karina and Anna all have that quality in varying amounts, but I don't see it with Lindsay, unfortunately, and Victor probably won't rise above cannon fodder because of this.

I was surprised to learn about her connection with Mark Ballas; I feel like every pro should get at least two seasons under their belts before being shown the door, but I don't see any of Mark's influence in her teaching or dancing at all.

Edited by sintin, Mar 26, 2013 @ 5:07 PM.

[OwlsGo]

I think last night's incident shown in rehearsal showed why she's so unprepared for the show. Part of teaching anything is dealing with uncooperative students, and she looked like she had no idea what to do. Add to that she's a passable dancer (all-around, which seems to be the expectation of the couples thus far) at best, and she and Victor won't make it past week four. I'd have chosen them to go home tonight over Lisa and Glen.

and her dancing is not good enough to cover for her partner's lack of ability.

Agreed. The only thing good about DL's Cha-cha-cha is it showed how good Cheryl is on her own (for lack of a better way of saying it). Lindsay and Victor? Not so much.

Edited by OwlsGo, Mar 26, 2013 @ 9:35 PM.

[Ohdog]

Pickler is dumb as a stump,but she appears to be a better dance than either of the utah twins.

[Truckhorse]

Well, I didn't see SYTYCD, but I like her. She and Victor are cute together, especially as 'Lucky Lindsay' and 'Vicious Victor' on the lam.

[RabidCthulu40]

I saw her on SYTYCD and I liked her way more than I did Witney. Hopefully, she'll last a couple more weeks.

[OwlsGo]

It's been six weeks now, and she really just cannot teach. Victor didn't even do anything tonight!

[officetemp]

I don't understand why Lindsay was brought on board. She can't teach and she's not even a very good dancer. To me, she's almost unwatchable and I find myself feeling really sorry for Victor. I hope she'll turn out to be a "one-and-done" pro.

Edited by officetemp, Apr 22, 2013 @ 9:54 PM.

[Bleeding Love]

Was I the only one that saw Lindsey pretty blatantly mess up her own choreography in the rumba? I liked her better than Witney on SYTYCD but she's just not impressing me here. She looked like she seriously had no idea what to do once Victor told her he had no experience to fall back on for the rumba.

[officetemp]

Was I the only one that saw Lindsey pretty blatantly mess up her own choreography in the rumba?

Was that when it looked like she backed (bumped) into Victor and they both seemed as if they had both forgotten what to do next? The whole dance seemed as if they had no idea where they were supposed to be in relation to one another. I also thought that there was an unintentional lift in there when he was supporting her and they were rotating.

[Bleeding Love]

I'm sure if I found the video on YouTube, officetemp, I could tell you where it is in the dance, but it was when they were both facing toward the stage and she was in front of him and she looked at him for a slit second and then lifted her arm as if to finish a move? I'm not sure if that's what you're thinking of, but as much non-dancing as Victor did, I don't think Lindsay was much better.

[officetemp]

[Sorry Bleeding Love--my computer was doing all kinds of weird things today.] Largely irrelevant now since Victor's been eliminated, but last night's rumba only confirmed my opinion that Lindsay was a bad choice as a pro for this season and would have been a bad choice for any star with whom she would have been partnered. I can't help but wonder how much further Victor could have gotten if he'd been partnered with a pro who could actually teach him something. Last night it seemed as if all Lindsay did as far as choreography was tell Victor "Here, hold my hand, stand over there, and I'll move around some and then I'll tell you where to stand next."

[crowceilidh]

I can't stand Lindsay, but I got the impression from her comments about the change in his learning style in their leaving package(?) that Victor was NOT easy to teach. I think that some of the mess iS on him -- I think if he'd had an older pro, he would've paid more attention. Also the look-at-me my heart has been broken stuff about his girlfriend? I found that childish and a bit of an overshare. Also, his comments about how surprisingly hard it was to learn to dance...

Edited by crowceilidh, Apr 24, 2013 @ 10:40 PM.

[sweetbuddy]

I would imagine that Victor was quite difficult to train. Anyone who saw him on After Buzz TV DWTS edition a few weeks ago, would know to what I'm referring. He was a special guest, but they could not get him to shut up!!! He was rambling, completely tangential, retelling the same stories within the hour, sharing semi-awkward behind-the-scenes stories about cast mates, etc. He had no internal censor and no people skills to notice the body language of the hosts as they continued to try to regain control of the show. Eventually they gave up and it turned into Victor hour. Zero self-awareness. He seems like a sweet, immature guy.

[ShaNaeNae]

I didn't finish up the hour of After Buzz, but I don't think he wasn't that bad. It's such a casual type show and he seemed to fit into that. I think he's a little immature (he's young) and a little macho at times, kind of a big talker, but I don't think he's bad enough to make up for the lack of training he seemed to have. He seems like he wears his heart on his sleeve, but I also think he may have done better with another instructor.

I just didn't really care for Lindsay. She seemed completely overwhelmed, lost and in over her head as a pro this season.

In fact, I think they should make all new pros go through a season or two of being in the troupe first.

[Sighandeyeroll]

They seemed great on Live with Kelly and Michael, but then a lot of voted out contestants do.

[TryingHarder]

Last night it seemed as if all Lindsay did as far as choreography was tell Victor "Here, hold my hand, stand over there, and I'll move around some and then I'll tell you where to stand next."

Interesting,,that's usually the way Maks teaches.