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[TWoP Nikita]

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Juliette plans a surprise birthday party for Deacon; as Teddy and Rayna's divorce moves forward; speculation about Rayna's fidelity ramps up; Scarlett is charmed by Gunnar's brother.

This thread will open at 11:00pm EST on February 27.

[lorra]

I have mixed feelings about tonight's episode. I don't feel it was as good as the last two episodes. In those episodes, things happened. Tonight things dragged.

Tonight I liked Avery a bit better. He looks vulnerable and so lonely.

On the other hand, I am growing to detest Gunnar. I'm glad his brother is gone. Him, I absolutely detested.

I'm glad the Juliette has this therapist now in her life. He's cute.

Rayna did a beautiful song at Deacon's party. But he will find heartache with her.

I'm surprised at how restrained Lamar was with Teddy. Lamar was wonderful in what he said to Rayna. But he treats Teddy as though it is business as usual. He's due for a rude awakening.

Teddy is getting off far too easy. Everything is going his way, and he has paid for nothing. He rode on Lamar's coat-tails into being mayor. He doesn't even have to give up his girlfriend for even a little while. Frankly, tonight, I detested Teddy.

The party was not that hot. Scarlett and Gunnar's duet did not impress me. They weren't as good as they usually are.

Adding - no mention was made of Glenn tonight. It seems he's gone for good.

Edited by lorra, Feb 27, 2013 @ 11:29 PM.

[Artsda]

Lamar and Rayna's scene seemed out of character for Lamar. He didn't mention or put any blame of the divorce on her going on her tour, not being around, on being with Deacon? Instead he's coddling her as doing nothing wrong? Lamar wasn't the normal Lamar with Rayna we've seen all season.

Does Rayna "the Queen of country music" have no publicist or PR team? Is that what I'm supposed to believe? That magazine would have never been a surprise to anyone, they would have known before hand before it went to print that it was coming out. They just happen to be the first people to find the magazine at the local market? I'm with Juliette that Rayna needs a new publicist. Heck even Lamar's people would have known it was leaking.

Rayna wants to do right by Deacon? That's why she's kept his kid from him for 15 years and continues to do so?

Hearing the reasons why Juliette wanted to give Deacon the party was moving. Juliette gets credit for me for giving her mom the time of day. Giving Deacon the dog was adorable.

[lorra]

Lamar and Rayna's scene seemed out of character for Lamar. He didn't mention or put any blame of the divorce on her going on her tour, not being around, on being with Deacon? Instead he's coddling her as doing nothing wrong? Lamar wasn't the normal Lamar with Rayna we've seen all season.

I just figure they are showing us another side to Lamarr. We really haven't seen to much of him.

I'm curious as to why this divorce is so easy?

[Irlandesa]

Lamar wasn't the normal Lamar with Rayna we've seen all season.

Lamar has been MIA for the past few episodes and I was starting to wonder if they were going to write him out. My guess is that they may have realized he was turning into too much of a one note villain and gave the character bit of a breather so they could retool him slightly.

There are things that Teddy is doing that will bite him in the butt. For instance, I don't think his affair with Peggy will stay hidden as much as they think it will. And there will be repercussions with Maddie. At the same time, I love that he asked Coleman to be his Deputy Mayor and plans on not letting Lamar run rough shod over his office.

I'm curious as to why this divorce is so easy?

Because Rayna wants it. If she's pissed, it's because she wasn't the one to make the decision. Overall, I think she theoretically wanted to make her marriage work but really wasn't actually into it.

So Gunnar's brother dies and Scarlett wants to have sex with him? Oh how romantic. It's almost reassuring to have that aspect of the show that just doesn't work as well for me as almost every other aspect.

[lorra]

Because Rayna wants it. If she's pissed, it's because she wasn't the one to make the decision. Overall, I think she theoretically wanted to make her marriage work but really wasn't actually into it.

I have to agree that this is the way they are writing it. After 13 years of marriage, one spends more than one single day crying.

[zumpie]

Rayna wants to do right by Deacon? That's why she's kept his kid from him for 15 years and continues to do so?

To be fair, it's only been 12 years. And of course Rayna's doing right by Deacon, she's awesome in every way! Or at least that's what the show keeps insisting to me.

About Lamar, this makes Rayna even less sympathetic---while I personally rated her rich controlling daddy who didn't hug me enough issues a lot lower on the sad childhood scale than Juliette's crackhead mom (and think that at 40, Rayna needs to buck up about the whole thing), at least it was one difficult to deal with thing.

Now basically her sham marriage fell apart after 12 years. Just not that tragic.

[lorra]

So Gunnar's brother dies and Scarlett wants to have sex with him? Oh how romantic. It's almost reassuring to have that aspect of the show that just doesn't work as well for me as almost every other aspect.

I agree. That ending scene was icky. It was not romantic or hot or even sexy.

[Vickilyn]

I'm actually kind of annoyed that they killed off Gunnar's brother. I found him more interesting than Gunnar, who has utterly failed to capture my attention thus far. For me, both he and Scarlett rotate between being completely boring and irritating as hell.

[lorra]

Now basically her sham marriage fell apart after 12 years. Just not that tragic.

This is the confusing part. It's so easy for them to end the marriage. The only difficult part was the daughters. But between them - Teddy and Rayna - there seems to be no real feelings. Quite different from how this episode started, which wasn't so many episodes ago.

I have an idea. Maybe Rayna bee-lined it to Deacon's party to get some revenge on Teddy. She knew the reporters would be there. It's like she wants the world to know.

[waterlilies]

So Gunnar's brother dies and Scarlett wants to have sex with him? Oh how romantic. It's almost reassuring to have that aspect of the show that just doesn't work as well for me as almost every other aspect.

Ha! i had a WTF reaction to that too. I suppose that is her go-to method of comfort.

However, she didn't annoy me half as much as she normally does so i'm giving them both a free pass on that awkwardness.

I actually really liked this episode. Deacon seemed happy and playful which hasn't been the case recently and we got another backstory on Juliet. Interesting that Juliet got Deacon a dog because I was completely surprised that he didn't already have one. I mean, he fits my stereotypical image of a dog owner from the south: Sad, wistful Country crooner with a dog and a dark longing for his lover.

Edited by waterlilies, Feb 28, 2013 @ 12:28 AM.

[labresq]

And maybe they'll film a scene at the same dog park here in Nashville that I go to and we'll run into each other! That would be something.

[zumpie]

I sure hope Juliette doesn't feel she should feel bad because she wished her mom was dead when she was nine. I wish her mom was dead on her behalf. And WTF with the people at the party, to whom Juliette was nothing but nice talking smack as soon as she walked away. And of course, since Juliette was happy, it took 30 seconds for her mom to fall off the wagon. I'm surprised the sobriety dude didn't blame Juliette for that

Then while that was a very cute yellow lab, Deacon manages to douche up that moment by giving Emily all the credit and Juliette none. Deacon, buy a clue, Juliette is offiically a MUCH better friend to you than you are to her. Judgement-free, too!

Juliette, the person who deserves unconditional love isn't Deacon, it's YOU. And Khouri needs to stop making Juliette her butt girl, it's just tiresome.

There are things that Teddy is doing that will bite him in the butt. For instance, I don't think his affair with Peggy will stay hidden as much as they think it will. And there will be repercussions with Maddie. At the same time, I love that he asked Coleman to be his Deputy Mayor and plans on not letting Lamar run rough shod over his office.

I kinda like that Teddy's grown himself a large, economy sized spine! As for repercussions, I think there'll be plenty for Rayna when Maddie finds out who her REAL daddy is!

I have an idea. Maybe Rayna bee-lined it to Deacon's party to get some revenge on Teddy. She knew the reporters would be there. It's like she wants the world to know.

I only question that because she seemed to REALLY be enjoying wrapping herself in full on sanctimony early on. I think it's easy for them to end their marriage because the writing is kinda weak----and sometimes rushes through story arcs (while draaaaggging out others)

[gpgurl50]

I liked Scarlett earlier in the episode being charmed by Juliette and fixing Deacon's cupcake. It was also great when Juliette suddenly realized what talented people she was dealing with. "I Will Fall" is one of my favorites of their duets. I get the drama of Gunnar kicking his brother out of his house, getting rid of his gun and ignoring his call out of tough love, only to find out it lead to his death. I feel like his brother's enemies were kind of out of nowhere though. Also, I can't believe their first time together is grief sex.

I didn't get the point of Avery's scenes this episode but I guess he realized he was on the outside looking in even if he does have flashy things so he may as well be smart. I mean, he got a check for 100,000 and spent 25,000 on one guitar. He would've been homeless in a couple days like that.

Juliette obviously dotes on Deacon too much but I like that this time, along with being his friend, it was about her own stuff. She wanted a big party with great people. She didn't want to sing just for him. She wanted to sing at the Bluebird. This was her chance to do that with a bunch of people she admired. None of those people with the possible exception of Deacon would show up just for her. It looks like Jolene and Juliette may be healing together. I just hope the counselor doesn't sell her out to TMZ or write a tell all.

It was good to see Deacon happy. They never did say how old he was though Juliette knew literally everything else about him. He watches "Old Yeller" every year on VHS? He has one of those players still?

I really liked Rayna's song and Juliette's song for that matter. I like how Rayna went to her sister's house to tell her she didn't want to talk to her and by the end of the day, Tandy was running her life. Rayna took a break from hiding from the world to give Deacon an explanation. I do feel bad for her with Maddie giving her the cold shoulder. Rayna does seem otherwise okay. She is leaning on family though.

I thought it was ironic that Teddy suddenly grew a spine, cut Lamar out of his life and was good to his friends. If he had done that a few weeks ago, he might still be in a marriage. Of course, he tells huge lies without blinking and sleeps with suicidal ladies. So, there's that. I too thought Lamar seemed to be too nice with Teddy and Rayna. I expected Lamar to hint he would bribe the auditor to come back and finish the job from before.

[ElectricBoogalo]

I think Rayna went to the party for multiple reasons:

(1) Despite the arguments she and Deacon have had over the last few months, they are old friends who care about each other. She didn't want him to think she was skipping his one and only birthday party because she was avoiding the paparazzi.
(2) Going to the party was a small way of sticking it to Juliette.
(3) Going to a party specifically for Deacon was a small way of sticking it to Tandy who told her that she was not to be around any men besides her father in public.
(4) It's a lose-lose situation, publicity wise. If she avoids Deacon and Liam, it makes her look guilty. If she is seen in public with them, it makes the rumors seem true.
(5) Not going to the party means altering her behavior and decisions because of the tabloids. I think she figured if the press is going to write about her, she might as well stay true to herself and keep living her life the same way. If she had stayed home, the press still would have written about her and asked why she was conspicuously absent from Deacon's birthday and insinuating that it meant they must be trying to hide their affair.

I'm glad she went to the party. Hiding doesn't work. It just makes the paparazzi want pictures even more. And at least this was a way to give the press what they wanted (pictures of Rayna) without involving her kids.

I don't know if Lamar was temporarily nice because he had a moment of humanity or because he doesn't want the divorce reflecting poorly upon his family or what, but those are the kindest words I've heard him say to Rayna this entire season. It seemed out of character, but maybe it took knowing how hard the divorce is on her and the kids to make him be nice for a few minutes.

[shron17]

I liked this episode, although parts did seem to drag a little, or maybe it's just that they were expected. I think Rayna mainly went to the party so that she could get a message to Deacon by way of the song since they hadn't talked much since the elevator kiss; she couldn't have known for sure they would have an opportunity to talk at the party. I loved Rayna told Deacon she'd do right by him, just recognizing both of their feelings and letting him know she really wants and intends to do the right thing. What I would like to see is Deacon back in Rayna's band, but that may not happen any time soon.

It was great to see Deacon see Scarlett and Gunnar sing, and also Juliette. Loved Deacon watching Old Yeller every year on his birthday, and then insisting it was a heartfelt story about a boy and his dog (I love sappy dog movies!). But Juliette shouldn't have given him a puppy, giving pets as gifts is how they end up in rescue. And there's no way a puppy wouldn't create havoc on tour.

Lamar was great, although much of what he said was family-motivated--hold your head high, you're my daughter despite your last name, etc. He may be being supportive and laying low on the surface while he decides what to do.

Loved that Teddy appointed Coleman as his deputy mayor, but how does appointing Peggy to anything not look bad?

Edited by shron17, Feb 28, 2013 @ 7:48 AM.

[Midru]

The episode felt flat to me, but I liked how it moved many stories forward.

The sex scene with Scarlett and Gunnar- I didn't feel it at all. AT ALL. Not only was there no chemistry, but given the couple's history and what just happened, no. And I have something else to hate about Scarlett- her clothes. During that scene she had on some kind of shawl that looked like a spiderweb. Please take that, the hair extensions, and all her other foofy crap, pack them into that stupid wooden suitcase, and toss it into the river with the dead guy's gun.

And speaking of the dead guy, he struck me as a waste of a character. If we are going to get a new character, Gunnar's long lost bro no less, I wanted them to give him more of an arc. On the plus side, thanks to him I sought out and can now play "Lonesome Fugitive" so I guess there's that.

So glad Rayna finally sang a new song. Even if she still seems so tentative. I wish someone would show her that karaoke scene from My Best Friend's Wedding. Remember how Cameron Diaz, who can't sing and is ambushed by her fake friend Julia Roberts, sings with such gusto she wins over the crowd despite one of the worst singing performances ever put to tape? I wish CB would channel just a little of that go-for-it energy.

At the party, I thought they dropped a major plot point. Juliette never got to sing her song, and Rayna sang instead. This could have been an epic bitch diva moment, but instead they built up to it and never addressed it after Juliette left.

Also at the party, there were several people we met I thought were supposed to be cameos. Don't know if anybody knows if those people were actually famous musicians but one of them looked like the guy from the Black Keys.

Something that bugged me was: aren't they in the middle of a 5 month tour? Is everyone on vacation or is the tour over?

[ElectricBoogalo]

Scarlett usually annoys the crap out of me, but she was adorable with her uncle Deacon, from the cupcake sandwich to getting him to invite himself to see her sing with Gunnar to the way she blocked the door when he realized he was at a surprise party. Maybe they just need to get her away from love interests long enough to get her to stop moping to make her more interesting and likable.

I like what Lamar said to Rayna because I think she needed to hear that, but at the same time it explains his attitude. He is not ashamed of who he is and he doesn't offer explanations to anyone for his actions, which is why he is such a dick.

I'm glad that Gunnar didn't try to blame Scarlett for his brother's death (since she was so adamant about the gun). I think he will always bear some guilt but hopefully he will realize that his brother made a lot of choices to get to that point, and Gunnar can't be held responsible for all of that. I hated the brother telling Gunnar that he owed him. If the story that Gunnar told is true, uh, no. Roping your little brother into your life of crime without telling him he was going to be a getaway driver and then acting like he was such a noble older brother for not ratting him out is not cool. I'm not sorry to see that selfish jerk go.

[Artsda]

I thought it was ironic that Teddy suddenly grew a spine, cut Lamar out of his life and was good to his friends. If he had done that a few weeks ago, he might still be in a marriage.

If he had grew a spine earlier, he would have gotten out of his marriage earlier. Teddy growing a spine is what finally caused one of them to stop with the fake act. Rayna took off and checked out of the marriage with no effort into working on it. Teddy gave up trying.

[Angeltoes]

He watches "Old Yeller" every year on VHS? He has one of those players still?

[small voice]I still do. Don't use it but it's there.[/small voice]

Also at the party, there were several people we met I thought were supposed to be cameos. Don't know if anybody knows if those people were actually famous musicians but one of them looked like the guy from the Black Keys.

I saw Pam Tillis and Vince Gill. Pam was the one who was introduced to Juliette and afterwards whispered to someone that Juliette was a lot nicer than she'd heard she was. Didn't recognize Vince until they called him Mr. Gill and then my thought was,"Holy cow, he got hefty."

Are we sure Deacon doesn't know Maddie is his kid? I'd think it would have at least crossed his mind.

[lorra]

I loved Rayna told Deacon she'd do right by him, just recognizing both of their feelings and letting him know she really wants and intends to do the right thing. What I would like to see is Deacon back in Rayna's band, but that may not happen any time soon.

But in a few ways, Rayna has not done right by Deacon.

#1 - she fired him from the band. It is not so much the action, but the lack of emotional content in those scenes when they happened.

When those scenes happened, Rayna basically did what Teddy wanted, without too much remorse. "Now" she's going to do right by Deacon? The only reason she fired him was because he dared to mouth off to her father and husband. That wasn't doing right.

#2 - for over thirteen years, Rayna has been hiding the fact from Deacon that he has a daughter.

So for over thirteen years, Rayna has not been doing right by Deacon.

#3 - Liam. Rayna has been carrying on pretty heavily with Liam - onstage and offstage.

Having yet another boyfriend on the side, who Rayna has been actively cultivating, is not what I call "doing right" by Deacon.

Regarding Deacon, throughout this whole series, at each and every turn, we have watched Rayna put her own needs ahead of Deacon. I doubt if that will change.

[ElectricBoogalo]

He watches "Old Yeller" every year on VHS? He has one of those players still?

[small voice]I still do. Don't use it but it's there.[/small voice]

Me too! There are some older things that I recorded and can't get on DVD so I keep the VCR around for that stuff. I think Deacon still has a VCR because he was on the road a lot so he wasn't at home watching tv all the time, hence no need to get a DVR that wouldn't get used for most of the year.

[lorra]

If he had grew a spine earlier, he would have gotten out of his marriage earlier. Teddy growing a spine is what finally caused one of them to stop with the fake act. Rayna took off and checked out of the marriage with no effort into working on it. Teddy gave up trying.

My empathy for Teddy disappeared with last night's episode. So I have to disagree.

All I saw last night was Teddy benefiting. He went along with most of Lamar's tactics in order to win the election, including things done to Coleman. Plus, Lamar covered up Teddy's white collar crimes.

It can't be forgotten that Teddy did commit some kind of a crime with those funds. And Teddy willingly danced with the Devil (Lamarr). Teddy was almost wholly dependent on Lamar for getting him elected Mayor.

I mean this part of the story, if it follows through and remains coherent, would mean that Lamar will now take Teddy down, and he has the means for doing so. Because Lamar is the one who covered up Teddy's crimes.

Meanwhile, Teddy gets to play around with his girl-friend. I mean the utter gall, to hire her as his financial officer.

Teddy is like most men. They will lay low in an unsatisfactory marriage just until the next woman comes along. Then they are out the door with the new woman. And that is the only reason he left Rayna, and it was bound to happen sooner or later.

Juliette, the person who deserves unconditional love isn't Deacon, it's YOU. And Khouri needs to stop making Juliette her butt girl, it's just tiresome.

I agree. I'm getting sick of Juliette's adoration and hero-worship of Deacon. She's a very smart young woman, but she seems so blind regarding Deacon. And she's always trying too hard, such as making this party for him.

Edited by lorra, Feb 28, 2013 @ 8:51 AM.

[BBDi]

I'm actually kind of annoyed that they killed off Gunnar's brother. I found him more interesting than Gunnar, who has utterly failed to capture my attention thus far. For me, both he and Scarlett rotate between being completely boring and irritating as hell.

Yeah, I felt his character had potential and I wouldn't have minded more time spent on his arc. In his short time on screen, he got my attention pretty well.

Wrt Lamar and Teddy and Rayna, I think there's a lot going on there. Lamar no longer has the same incentive to use a soft approach with Teddy so I am expecting him to start laying down the law. However, Teddy is still the father of Lamar's grandkids (nominally, at least), so it wouldn't make sense to ruin Teddy. Also, Lamar no longer has influence on Rayna's life via Teddy, so I wonder if he's going to try to get more directly involved with Rayna. Not sure where they are going to take all this stuff, but hope they make it interesting.

I still think Teddy is kind of a loser. Did he hire Bunny as lieutenant mayor because he really wanted to, or to piss off Lamar? If it's mostly the latter, it will probably backfire on him. As far as Peggy goes, is Teddy really that stupid that he thinks he's helping his girlfriend or himself by putting her on staff? Yeah, that will go well. How many pols (eg, John Edwards) have gotten busted because someone put two and two together and realized that a person was on staff only because he/she was sleeping with the boss? If Teddy is that dumb I want to kick him in the nuts.

Looking forward to seeing how Rayna tries to make things right with Deacon.

I did enjoy seeing Rayna and Juliette jockeying for position both in the business and with Deacon over the party.

Edited by BBDi, Feb 28, 2013 @ 9:09 AM.

[lorra]

Regarding Lamar, I think he took Rayna's side so much because he is angry with Teddy. It is Teddy who has now failed him.

Lamar started off saying to Rayna about how he hoped that as mayor it would make Teddy a stronger family man. I wish they had done that part a bit clearer.

When Lamar saw Teddy, however, we saw Lamar was proceeding along the lines of business as usual, thinking Teddy would continue to do his bidding. Lamar wanted Teddy to appoint his man as Deputy Mayor. Instead, Teddy has appointed Coleman who Lamar detests.

Now it remains to be seen if the writing is going to follow through on this story.

[Mwcdeb8r]

My empathy for Teddy disappeared with last night's episode. So I have to disagree.

All I saw last night was Teddy benefiting. He went along with most of Lamar's tactics in order to win the election, including things done to Coleman. Plus, Lamar covered up Teddy's white collar crimes.

It can't be forgotten that Teddy did commit some kind of a crime with those funds. And Teddy willingly danced with the Devil (Lamarr). Teddy was almost wholly dependent on Lamar for getting him elected Mayor.

I mean this part of the story, if it follows through and remains coherent, would mean that Lamar will now take Teddy down, and he has the means for doing so. Because Lamar is the one who covered up Teddy's crimes.

Meanwhile, Teddy gets to play around with his girl-friend. I mean the utter gall, to hire her as his financial officer.

Teddy is like most men. They will lay low in an unsatisfactory marriage just until the next woman comes along. Then they are out the door with the new woman. And that is the only reason he left Rayna, and it was bound to happen sooner or later.

So much word. Totally agree.

I didn't see it so much as Teddy growing a spine as Teddy letting power go to his head.

He's installing his new girlfriend in position in his administration that is definitely a conflict of interest.

He effectively used Lamar to get elected. That's fine. I don't feel sorry for Lamar, but Teddy reaps what he sows. And I won't feel sorry for him when he gets what he deserves.

But I thought Teddy had a lot of nerve telling Rayna that the affair with Peggy was none of her business. Technically, they are still married (even if paperwork is filed; the divorce isn't final), so it is every bit her business, considering that it happened while they are married.

Enough of this Deacon business. Too much history, too much messiness. I'm much more team Liam.

I'm also getting so tired of all the characters pushing Juliette to forgive her mother so easily. Her mother and her mother's addictions made Juliette's childhood a living hell. How can she let go so easily? Especially when the women repeatedly relapses and leaves Juliette to clean up the messes, even as an adult? I'm not against counseling for her, but a childhood like that isn't something you get over so quickly.

Edited by Mwcdeb8r, Feb 28, 2013 @ 9:12 AM.

[lorra]

I still Teddy is kind of a loser. Did he hire Bunny as lieutenant mayor because he really wanted to, or to piss off Lamar? If it's mostly the latter, it will probably backfire on him. As far as Peggy goes, is Teddy really that stupid that he thinks he's helping his girlfriend or himself by putting her on staff? Yeah, that will go well. How many pols (eg, John Edwards) have gotten busted because someone put two and two together and realized that a person was on staff only because he/she was sleeping with the boss? If Teddy is that dumb I want to kick him in the nuts.

The thing with Peggy is that she was involved and participated in Teddy's white collar crimes. Lamar doesn't have to go after Teddy ... no, no, no. All Lamar has to do is take down Peggy.

Right now, with getting a divorce and separated from Rayna, there is no scandal looming for Teddy and Peggy as a couple. It's not like Teddy is carrying on affair, because his marriage is now publicly over. He and Peggy just have to be discreet until the divorce.

But ... there's the coverup involving both Teddy and Peggy over the misuse of funds. That's the scandal.

I didn't see it so much as Teddy growing a spine as Teddy letting power go to his head.

You phrased it so well -- Teddy has let power go to his head. So he's due for a downfall.

But I disagree on the part regarding his affair with Peggy. Rayna and he are now separated, and the divorce papers are filed. So now it is not so much her business. People don't wait nowadays for a final divorce decree.

I'm not justifying Teddy. And it is wrong what he is doing with Peggy for other reasons - such as 1) giving your lover a public office, and 2) giving your past co-conspirator in a covered up crime a job managing the city's finances.

[shron17]

But in a few ways, Rayna has not done right by Deacon.

Rayna said she wanted to do right by Deacon, not that she has already.

#2 - for over thirteen years, Rayna has been hiding the fact from Deacon that he has a daughter.

At this point we know 2 facts: 1) Teddy is not Maddie's biological father; 2) Teddy knew this when he married Rayna. I don't see any point in discussing who did what or why when it's only speculation. When Rayna was married to Teddy her first obligation was to him and to her daughters. Whatever happened between Liam and Rayna was mostly flirtation; he is not and has never been Rayna's boyfriend.

Regarding Deacon, throughout this whole series, at each and every turn, we have watched Rayna put her own needs ahead of Deacon. I doubt if that will change.

Since I think everyone should put their own needs first (except maybe their kids, sometimes) I hope this doesn't change.

[lorra]

At this point we know 2 facts: 1) Teddy is not Maddie's biological father; 2) Teddy knew this when he married Rayna. I don't see any point in discussing who did what or why when it's only speculation. When Rayna was married to Teddy her first obligation was to him and to her daughters.

I disagree. Rayna also had and has an obligation to be honest with her daughter. When Rayna saw that Deacon was clear from his addiction, and he has been clear for years now, that is when she and Teddy should have discussed the need to tell everyone concerned - Deacon and Maddie - the truth. But I guess their marriage was always too fragile. But just because the marriage was fragile does not negate either Deacon's right nor Maddie's right to know the truth.

[marceline]

At this point we know 2 facts: 1) Teddy is not Maddie's biological father; 2) Teddy knew this when he married Rayna. I don't see any point in discussing who did what or why when it's only speculation.

ITA. Frankly, I'm still not sure that Deacon *is* Maddie's father. We know that Teddy isn't but I can't recall anyone ever saying flat out that Deacon is. I'm still putting my money on the briefly aforementioned "Vince."

It was nice to see Coleman again.