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[OwlsGo]

Intended or otherwise.

[KarenM]

Access Hollywood Interview.

[lnmop]

Oh dear God. Is Andy even sober enough to learn and remember the dances? And his poor partner is a newcomer to the show. Baptism by fire anyone? I cringe.

[Serendi]

On the one hand, Andy genuinely seems to be taking this seriously. It seems to mean a lot to him.

On the other, in one of the interviews he kissed his partner on the head, and with his gropey reputation, well, I *really* feel sorry for her. 'Cause it seemed creepy, and if he's creeping when they've barely met, that is not a good sign.

[CattyTiger]

He is an odd one, but I've enjoyed a lot of what he's done in the past. I hope he is serious about this and even does well.

[aceplace57]

Andy on his sobriety.

I hope this becomes a success story like Steve O. It's been so long since Andy was on Less Than Perfect. He's got a big job ahead to convince people that he's changing for the better. Maybe, just maybe dwts is the beginning of a new sober life.

I'm not a fan of his edgy comedy. But everyone deserves a second chance in life.

Edited by aceplace57, Mar 1, 2013 @ 12:21 PM.

[Sunnyheart]

I hope this becomes a success story like Steve O. It's been so long since Andy was on Less Than Perfect.

I remember him from NewsRadio. I always liked him. For me, he's sort of like the male Lindsay Lohan - he's talented, I was a fan, and I couldn't believe what a mess he became. I truly thought he would not pull out of it. I hope this is for real because it would make for a nice story. I remember Steve-O (who totally grossed me out before the show started) talking with Lacey and the cameras about what an out-of-control wreck he was. And he was so determined to do better and be a better person. I respect that - it can be a Herculean effort to pull out of addiction and prove that you've changed.

I guess we are going to find out soon whether Andy Dick really has changed.

[Ketzel]

Newly sober yet again after what - ten, eleven times in rehab? Making more moving declarations into the camera about how this time it's for good? Just like the last time when he gazed into the camera and swore with tears in his eyes that he was going to stay sober for the sake of his children? Which was promptly followed by a new string of accusations of public intoxication and sexually assaultive behavior against both men and women? If it's true that ABC was pursuing him for DWTS in 2008 even as he was being arrested for going up to a seventeen-year-old girl in a restaurant parking lot and yanking her shirt and bra down to her waist, that's actually quite disgusting.

I do believe addiction is a disease, and a terribly difficult one to treat successfully. But nothing in Dick's history shows a genuine desire to fight it. He goes in and out of rehab more to get himself in the public eye and out of trouble than to sincerely battle the disease, it seems. His last stint in rehab resulted from a televised intervention and the first thing he does on getting out is go on a high pressure show like DWTS? Yeah, that's a recipe for maintaining sobriety. (And wasn't the stint-before-last one of Dr. Drew's sobriety shows?)IMO, just another famewhore who won't take responsibility for his own behavior. There's nothing funny about his propensity for sexual battery everytime he gets high. I really hope the show will at least take good care of Sharna and the other women.

Edited by Ketzel, Mar 2, 2013 @ 3:52 PM.

[legaleagle44]

Which was promptly followed by a new string of accusations of public intoxication and sexually assaultive behavior against both men and women?

Which reminds me of another fun factoid about him: He came out at about the same time that Ellen DeGeneres did, except that he declared himself bisexual, rather than gay. Way to represent the GLBT community there, Andy!

In any event, I do hope he's serious. One of the things that made Steve-O grow on me was that he really did take the whole process seriously, worked his butt off, and was humble, gracious and respectful to Lacey, the judges, and everyone else. He even owned up to his mistakes on the show, including the disastrous backflip that left him rather painfully injured and which he later admitted that Lacey had warned him not to attempt.

I never thought I'd ever endorse Steve-O for a role model for anybody, but I really hope that Andy takes him for one anyway as far as this competition is concerned

[Sunnyheart]

that he was going to stay sober for the sake of his children?

Andy Dick has KIDS??!!!

[Ketzel]

Three of them. Two sons and a daughter. I think the oldest is around fifteen.

[Sunnyheart]

I just can't imagine who would think "this is the guy that I want to have kids with".

[IngoFanFirst]

Andy's first dance is the Foxtrot

http://ktla.com/2013.../#axzz2MbLRRqz4

Edited by IngoFanFirst, Mar 4, 2013 @ 3:15 PM.

[carryanation]

If it's true that ABC was pursuing him for DWTS in 2008 even as he was being arrested for going up to a seventeen-year-old girl in a restaurant parking lot and yanking her shirt and bra down to her waist, that's actually quite disgusting.

This should be pinned to the top of this thread. Along with the fact that Brynn Hartman had been sober for years until the Dick gave her cocaine and caused her relapse. (She would go on to shoot her husband Phil and herself in a drug-fueled murder-suicide.)

I like the character he played on Newsradio but the man himself is a utter scumbag.

Edited by carryanation, Mar 8, 2013 @ 12:27 PM.

[OwlsGo]

I was indifferent to him until I heard (years back, not heretofore) that he introduced Brynn Hartman to cocaine. What a disgrace.

I honestly think I'd rather have Tom Delay back.

[popcorn]

I don't care for the guy, but I doubt he shoved cocaine up Brynn Hartman's nose against her will. I don't think one person can cause another to relapse if they don't want to.

My main issue/concern with him on the show is I doubt he's going to do the work. Are they required to put in a certain number of practice hours before they get paid?

[IngoFanFirst]

Andy Dick Reveals 'DWTS' Breakdown

http://www.etonline....rsal_Breakdown/

[aceplace57]

There's no doubt that we'll see that breakdown in the package before their first dance. I hope they also show that they worked through it and he's doing ok. I'm curious to see his first dance. He'll have to get very good scores to make it past week 1.

Edited by aceplace57, Mar 12, 2013 @ 5:08 AM.

[spanana]

Some seasons there is an easy first boot that you can basically predict before the season starts. I expect Wynona can't dance, but I'd imagine she will have more goodwill behind her than Andy. No matter how Andy comes across, and I imagine they will show a breakdown if there was one, I just have a hard time seeing the public mobilizing behind this guy.

[Sunnyheart]

I just have a hard time seeing the public mobilizing behind this guy.

I would agree except I lived through the WTF Season of Nancy Grace. There are very few celebrities I despise more than Nancy Grace. She's abrasive, venomous, and she most definitely was a provoking factor in the suicide of a distraught mother. And you know what? I loved her on the show. I could not believe that she was the same revolting person. I thoroughly enjoyed her ON THE SHOW. I still hate her off the show, but there was something about the glittery charm of DWTS and Tristan that made her palatable to me. I can see this happening to Andy Dick. If he comes across as genuinely changed and regretful of his past, I can see viewers forgiving him. If he's funny and sweet and entertaining, I think he may do fine with public opinion. And DWTS will do wonders with rehabbing his image.

But of course, the opposite could also happen. If he acts like the same old Andy Dick, he's done. Nobody can act like more of an asshole than Andy Dick. Anyways, I am really intrigued by this pairing. I've seen a couple of interviews that are charming. It should be very interesting to see how it plays out.

[spanana]

Very true Sunny. The weird thing about DWTS is it somehow makes some of the most heinous people endearing and folks you expect to like out of the gate wind up turning you off. Also based on rehearsal footage, DL might be another contender for first boot. He's stiff and I'm not sure his humor will come off well.

[OwlsGo]

True, Sunnyheart, but Ron Artest didn't have a glittering reputation, either. To most people, he was the guy who punched a fan.

I think Andy could be a runaway favorite, but given his age and substance abuse (that has to have taken a toll on his body), I doubt it. I don't think he'll even be a humorous favorite like Cloris Leachman.

[legaleagle44]

I think Andy could be a runaway favorite, but given his age and substance abuse (that has to have taken a toll on his body)

Not to mention his well-earned reputation as a douchebag of the highest order. No way could he be a runaway favorite with that much baggage on him, in my opinion; I think viewers would probably rather see Kate Gosselin or even Bristol Palin win over this guy.

[Sunnyheart]

True, Sunnyheart, but Ron Artest didn't have a glittering reputation, either. To most people, he was the guy who punched a fan.

Yes, I agree that a celebrity's reputation can hurt them, but they can also overcome that reputation (Nancy Grace, Steve-O). That's why I said it's all going to depend on how Andy Dick comes across to DWTS viewers. I didn't know who Ron Artest was, but to me he had zero charm and he was paired with a pro that I despise. Plus the whole name change thing was weird. And he had the lowest score of the night.

If Andy Dick comes out and dances decently and presents himself as grounded, humble, and charming, I believe he can win viewers over. There are a lot people who don't follow TMZ (shocking, I know, cause I am not one of them), don't know anything about the Phil/Brynn Hartman scandal, and just remember Andy Dick as the guy from Suddenly Susan or NewsRadio. So it's all going to boil down to his attitude, how they edit him and how he dances. But even if he acts like the nicest guy in the world, I don't think he will make it past week 4. And I really can't see him doing contemporary. That just boggles my mind.

The weird thing about DWTS is it somehow makes some of the most heinous people endearing and folks you expect to like out of the gate wind up turning you off.

ITA. It's one of the things that makes this show interesting to me.

[Elsa]

I think it all comes down to what DWTS wants to do with Andy Dick. If they want him to stick around a few weeks, they'll find a way, imo. Their core demos are 50+ conservative women (who adore Nancy Grace, btw), but they want some younger folks back and they want to do at least a certain amount of shocking and getting people talking. Otherwise, we wouldn't have had Chaz Bono or Carson Kressley, and they stayed till weeks 6 and 5, respectively.

I'm not sure the average viewer keeps up with the tabloid stuff about Steve-O and Andy Dick, but in any case, we'll see if Andy has any sticking power. Somebody has to exit 1st, 2nd, 3rd. I think he'll probably be in that trio, along with D.L. and ??

I've tried to like Andy - he's my kind of guy - but there's a bit of defensiveness, harshness, maybe even entitlement in his speech that jumps out at me. I mean, I wish him all the best!! But I wish he'd remember he's there to entertain us, primarily (and throw in some sweet vulnerability, a la Steve O), not to ask us to keep him sober and help him with his therapy.

If he thinks he'll win "Queen for a Day" he ain't gonna hold up next to America's sweethearts dealing with childhood abandonment, cancer, whatever "I pulled myself up by my bootstraps" story that Victor has, etc. Though I guess it worked for Arquette and Steve-O. Still, if they want him around several weeks, he'll stay. If they hired him for pre-show shock-talk and they want him out first (a la Pamela Anderson in Season 15), he'll go.

I actually think his best chance of staying around a bit is if the show wants to give Sharna more time before the camera and public to make a decision on whether she's worth another chance or not.

Edited by Elsa, Mar 17, 2013 @ 1:10 PM.

[OwlsGo]

Very well-written post, Elsa. I think Victor's story and Lindsay's Ballas connection will keep them around and will make Sharna the Peta (Who went home first on her first season) this time around.

[Placard]

I think Andy could be a runaway favorite, but given his age and substance abuse (that has to have taken a toll on his body), I doubt it.

His past problems far exceed his age and/or substance abuse and have been ongoing for many years. According to Wikipedia as recently as a trial date earlier this month. Wikipedia has a long list of violations on this guy under Legal and Controversies. Read it and then see how you feel about him being anyones favorite. He should never be on DWTS, IMO.

[Elsa]

I take back saying he's my kind of guy - I just meant that he's funny, and I hadn't bothered to read his rap sheet. Oh dear. Makes Steve O look like St. Francis of Assisi.

[OwlsGo]

Okay, I didn't know it was that bad, Placard. I mean:

On January 11, 2011, Dick was thrown out of the AVN Awards, a pornographic movie awards ceremony, after repeatedly groping and stalking adult film actress Tera Patrick and drag queen Chi Chi LaRue.[52] He later claimed to have stayed clean for at least three months after this relapse.

Thrown out of the porn awards for being too repulsive? That is something.

[Sunnyheart]

His past problems far exceed his age and/or substance abuse and have been ongoing for many years. According to Wikipedia as recently as a trial date earlier this month. Wikipedia has a long list of violations on this guy under Legal and Controversies. Read it and then see how you feel about him being anyones favorite. He should never be on DWTS, IMO.

I agree that he is the biggest disaster this show has ever cast and a real loose cannon. I'm still kind of surprised that ABC is taking the gamble of allowing Andy Dick to be live on TV. I'll bet that they are requiring alcohol/drug tests from him. I know I would - the pressure of the show could cause him to relapse. But I still think that the majority of viewers will only take into consideration his behavior and dancing on the show. And I agree with Elsa that the show will ultimately make the decision as to how long Andy Dick stays. Editing can make or break a star, IMO.

Even with good edits though, I don't think he will last long with this cast. Maybe 3 weeks. I just hope he's gone before I have to see him rumba.

I still cannot believe that this guy has kids. Oy.