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12-11: "Las Vegas: Ladies Night" 2013.02.20


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Posted Feb 21, 2013 @ 4:28 PM

I'm catching up on the clips and wow, some were really BAD> I tried to watch it in full on the site provided upthread (thank you anyway) but they asked for a credit card, so.. I'll have to stick with catching clips.


Rickey.org and mjsbigblog.com usually have full performance and judge critique clips.

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Posted Feb 21, 2013 @ 4:29 PM

So let me get this straight in my head. There are 10 one night and 10 one night, but they keep 5 per night? What if the 6th one on night two is tons better than the 5th one on night one? I didn't say that well. SO it comes down to the luck of who's in the group?

I was wondering the same thing. It seems on some years they have some sort of wild card contestant who gets a second chance. But I haven't heard anything about that this year. Of course, prior to about a week ago I didn't know they'd have this new Vegas performance set up.

Watching all those ballads from the first group of girls made me realize how bored the judges might get during Hollywood week. Snooze.

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Posted Feb 21, 2013 @ 4:39 PM

I keep hearing that this is a powerhouse year for "the girls" and while their voices are good, I'm not sure I'm up to listening to ballad after ballad after ballad (after ballad). Sweet holy mother of cheese, someone help these people choose a song. Nikki Minaj gets line of the night for having the balls to call out pageant singing. Oh, AI, this is going to be a long season when I'm FFing to hear the judges rather than the singing in a -- you know - singing competition.

Speaking of Nikki, I have mixed feelings -- probably because she's a mixed bag when it comes to judging. OakGoblinFly was right in saying that "buried under the fake claws, horrible wigs, and sidebars as some salient observations." I'd include the fake accent and penchant for nicknames to that list, btw. Unfortunately, for every salient observation (especially earlier in the competition) there's this bizarre underlying power struggle where she tries to outdo (or pre-empt) every other judge.

Obviously we're seeing an edited version of things but so often I feel Nikki does this weird middle-school mean girl thing where she tries to position herself as queen bee and isolate anyone with whom she disagrees (or maybe she just pushes them aside on a whim simply because she can). For example, watch the body positions last night: Nikki spent most of the evening with her back slightly turned to Randy and Mariah. It was a bit bizarre after a while. Corvus13, I think that was why Keith was "sitting so far away from Nikki on the edge of the desk!" She's either coming on to him or deliberately trying to paint Randy and Mariah as irrelevant. And while I suspect most of the audience agrees that Randy is irrelevant, he's been here since day one and deserves a modicum of politeness. Let the audience mock him privately -- we don't need Nikki and her ever-present eye rolls to do it for us.

Having said all that, there are moments when she is so bluntly honest that I want to stand up and cheer. During the auditions when she called the other three judges out for forcing a contestant to basically lie and say she would be a country artist? Yes! Tonight calling out the pageant-bots? Hell yeah! If she could tone down the rest of the creepy factor it would be a much better show. Also, aside from focusing nearly slavish attention on Keith, by the time she got done agreeing with everything he said, it didn't leave the other judges much to say. Maybe the producers should separate Nikki and Keith? (I wonder if the producers told Keith to leave time and observations for the other judges also, and that was why he didn't say as much later in the show?)


OakGoblinFly:I thought Keith showed improvement over the audition rounds and I really enjoyed watching Mariah struggle to remain polite and supportive to the contestants when she clearly was not impressed (you need only watch Mariah’s face to know what she thinks of a contestant). I thought Mariah gave the most technical critiques we’ve seen thus far (and so nice to see a little of the goofy personality come out).


MGTex: Thank you Keith Urban for bringing some sanity (finally) to the judges' table. Too bad Mariah was at the other end, because even though she was obviously paying attention and had good comments, by the time they got to her, she sounded a bit repetitive. Randy's just Randy; nothing new there. And Minaj...teling people they're going home in a British accent or saying you liked their outfits or calling them "my darling" is just weird and creepy.


Agreed. Love Keith as a judge and think he had really great points. Mariah surprised me as well. I've never liked her or her music and the drama of earlier this season between Mimi and Nikki was off-putting. However, nearly all her critiques were specific and helpful and even if the contestant was leaving, the comments were designed to help them in the future (wherever it may be for that person).

Edited by kazou, Feb 21, 2013 @ 4:41 PM.


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Posted Feb 21, 2013 @ 4:48 PM

American Idol's YouTube channel has all the performance clips with critiques as well as the elimination clips up now, as well as Hulu.

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Posted Feb 21, 2013 @ 5:12 PM

Why did Randy say the results weren't unanimous, when Ryan said they were?


I think each was talking specifically about the result he presented. As in, it wasn't unanimous that Shubha should go home, but it was unanimous that Kree should stay (or whoever).


But Ryan said it when he brought all of the girls back at the beginning of the results. I'm just confused.

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Posted Feb 21, 2013 @ 6:36 PM

Why did Randy say the results weren't unanimous, when Ryan said they were?


I think each was talking specifically about the result he presented. As in, it wasn't unanimous that Shubha should go home, but it was unanimous that Kree should stay (or whoever).



But Ryan said it when he brought all of the girls back at the beginning of the results. I'm just confused.


I think that what Ryan meant was that the judges had ultimately been able to come to an agreement. The results weren't technically unanimous, but when the judges' votes had all come in there'd been a clear result with five going through. He was basically saying that they didn't need a tie breaker to deal with a deadlock situation where two contestants were in equal fifth.

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Posted Feb 21, 2013 @ 7:53 PM

My Funny Valentine. Yeah. Melinda Doolittle performed this back in 2007.?..can't remember the exact year. Whenever a female contestant attempts this song, I am always reminded of Mindy Doo. Sorry, no one can touch her rendition. It was one of the best-performed, brilliantly-phrased interpretations I have ever heard. I'll never forget it. I was surprised Randy didn't comment on that.

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Posted Feb 21, 2013 @ 8:31 PM

Not many girls impressed me last night; but I can't complain with the 5 who made it. Although I thought Isabelle was robbed.

Hopefully the guys do better tonight.

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Posted Feb 21, 2013 @ 10:31 PM

Jenny Beth (sp?) wasn't very memorable. I can't even remember what she sang.

Wow, I thought Tenna was absolutely awful. I couldn't believe my ears when the judges started praising her and saying the "night just began". Also, gurl... that weave.

Adriana's vocal was superb. I was worried the judges would find it old fashioned or boring, but I thought she was captivating.

Brandy needs to do something about her eyebrows. Her voice was all over the place.

I appreciate that Shubha tried to do something different with Born This Way. I don't think it totally got there, but it was fun and unique, so I give her props. It's more than I can say for a lot of the other girls tonight. Nicki's comments were a little OTT, but Randy hit it on the nose: she should have stayed at the piano.

Those pants. That song choice. That pitch. That phrasing. Yikes. Kamaria is definitely my worst of the night so far.

I really like Cree's vibe as a person. She looks a bit of a regular-person Kristin Stewart. Her performance was packed with emotion, so I can forgive a few of the weaker points. I wish she had sung Stars again.

I wanted to hate Angela because her hair scares me. But then she mostly just put me to sleep. Even when the song picked up I was all "meh". I do like her powerful voice, though.

I saw a comment upthread that Isabelle was robbed. I'm really hoping I misread that. Because besides it looking like she borrowed Miranda Lambert's hideous Grammy dress, her performance was pretty solid. It had a few moments I'd like to tweak, but she's a very likeable person.

Amber was boring, but her vocals were top notch. So I'm 50/50. Obviously nobody can touch Doolittle, but considering how this season is shaping up, I'll take what I can get.

Before knowing the results, my top 5, easily:
-Adriana
-Isabelle
-Kree
-Amber
-Shubha

To the point where everybody else was awful. I expected Tenna to get in, but I would have preferred Shubha over Angela. Oh, well.

Edit: I just saw Angela's Hollywood performance. And... I take it all back. She can suck the big one for the next 10 weeks in a row and still deserve to beat most of the other people here.

Edited by Oholibamah, Feb 21, 2013 @ 11:30 PM.


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Posted Feb 22, 2013 @ 6:23 AM

What the hell? Our whole house thought Keith was stringing Isabelle along for laughs. She was fantastic!

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Posted Feb 22, 2013 @ 6:51 AM

Was Kamaria's performance the worst ever on an Idol stage?

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Posted Feb 22, 2013 @ 2:48 PM

Was Kamaria's performance the worst ever on an Idol stage?


No. Haley Vaughn from season 9 was awful and she was in the top 24.

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Posted Feb 22, 2013 @ 7:01 PM

Oh I remember her. Poor girl. She seemed to have a lot of potential.

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Posted Feb 22, 2013 @ 7:36 PM

How quickly we forget Jesus and Noel Roman.

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Posted Feb 22, 2013 @ 9:37 PM

ITA about Melinda Doolittle and FV. I was hoping she'd have a Big career. Guess that didn't happen.

Obviously we're seeing an edited version of things but so often I feel Nikki does this weird middle-school mean girl thing where she tries to position herself as queen bee and isolate anyone with whom she disagrees (or maybe she just pushes them aside on a whim simply because she can).

So much agreement with this--and also with your other observation about how -good- she can be. I have a feeling she doesn't listen to anyone, but if a director could get her to drop the mean girl bit and be a team player, it would boost the whole show, imo.

Mariah and Keith have been very pleasant surprises to me--good criticisms, kindly delivered and specific.

Credit to Shuba for bringing the energy and spirit of "Go big or go home". Plus, I love her name. She wouldn't have won, but I thought she was good enough to make F10.