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Posted Feb 8, 2013 @ 10:09 AM

Can't stand Nicki Minaj, someone with no talent judging talent...hello oxymoron

...something like J-Lo. I stopped watching AI last year after the top 12 were picked because of the lack of diversity among the female singers. I decided to watch this year because of Mariah being a judge....I'm still on the fence with the show and will decide if I continue watching after the top 12 are picked. I like Keith a lot, I've never heard of his songs and really only knew about him because of his marriage to Nicole....I was shocked that he had an accent.....but he's doing well, and I hate to say it, but I'm glad Randy is there even though he thinks he's more important than he really is, I do feel that he's needed, and he makes me laugh, and they needed one original person to be there.

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Posted Feb 8, 2013 @ 10:38 AM

Holy shit, I can't stand Minaj for so many reasons most of which have been mentioned. On a superficial note, her speaking voice sounds like she is talking with a clothespin on her nose after having huffed helium.

I can feel for Mariah if she is indeed mentally checking out, if for no other reason than having to tolerate Minaj without throwing something at her. I hope Mariah can continue to resist Minaj trying to engage her in unpleasant exchanges, but part of me wants Mariah, Keith, and Randy to leap from the chairs simultaneously, turn to Minaj en masse and scream, "Bitch, DO shut the fuck up already." I say they should muzzle Minaj and launch her into another solar system. Damn.

I turned away for a moment, so the young man with the stuttering problem did make it through, right? IIRC, he has a great voice, imo and seems very sincere.

Peachez' comment and attitude made him come across to me as a bit of a douche.

And that dude, can't think of his name, ...agreed with above, Adam Lambert, you ain't - not even close.

Edited by ari333, Feb 8, 2013 @ 10:43 AM.


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Posted Feb 8, 2013 @ 11:14 AM

Micah was robbed. I'm not understanding his elimination. But Mariah seemed disappointed he didn't melisma all over the song. So I guess she got confused by Micah not doing an R&B song.


I was so happy to hear him sing the Randy Travis song and then to see him get the boot....what? It couldn't have been about his looks because that Charlie kid ain't nothing to look at, that's for sure. So, what was the deal?

I turned away for a moment, so the young man with the stuttering problem did make it through, right? IIRC, he has a great voice, imo and seems very sincere.


Yes, Lazaro made it through, which I'm very happy about.

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Posted Feb 8, 2013 @ 12:39 PM

It couldn't have been about his looks...


Micah has a great voice and I was very surprised and sorry he got the boot. However, I believe it is 100% about "looks". As cruel as it sounds, to me, his appearance and voice (when not singing)are very much those of a "special needs" person.

Charlie Askew, while not a heart-throb, is cute in an unconventional way, has a quirky charm, can really sing and no doubt will appeal to the tweens and their moms--Oh, God, I can see it now. Instead of "Claymates" we'll have "The Askew Crew". Kill me. I don't doubt the producers will ensure he doesn't make the top 12, otherwise, he could possibly derail their blatantly obvious efforts to have a girl winner this season.

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Posted Feb 8, 2013 @ 12:52 PM

I'm going to have to start hitting the mute button when Nicki talks. I cannot stand the sound of her voice, and her domination of the judging panel is super annoying. Even when she compliments contestants, she manages to sound completely insincere. Granted, she did make a valid criticism of the guy using his height as a way to get pity, but overall, I just wish she would go away.

Disappointed that Micah and Nate were eliminated. I loved the smooth, mellow tone of Micah's voice, as opposed to the shouting quality that many of these singers tend to have. His exit was classy though, so points for that. As for Nate, we didn't even get to see his solo, but I'm sorry to see him go. Oh well.

Right now, I'm liking Nick Boddington and Charlie Askew. Charlie is a bit of an odd duck, but it's endearing and I'm looking forward to what he does next.

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Posted Feb 8, 2013 @ 1:21 PM

I have been a fan of Mateus's since his first audition but I totally agree with Nicki that he was milking his sob story too much and I don't understand why he would sign up for a show like Idol if he's never sung with a live band before. He really did awful with that Stronger song, if he can't keep in time with the band, he can't move on to the live shows.

He's such a liar. As many have mentioned, not only was he on The Glee Project, but he has to sing several "last chance performances" on that show, all of which were performed with a band on stage. I'm so glad they called him out on his sob story. After the initial audition rounds, no cares about that shit. Just shut up and sing.

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Posted Feb 8, 2013 @ 2:34 PM

It really has been "The Nikki Minaj Show," but it's early yet, and I'm sure once it gets down to final 24 we'll get plenty of Randy yelling "in it to win it" and his other idiotic catch phrases. And while Nikki can be annoying, to me it's annoying with a small "a" compared to the ANNOYING that JLo was, with her endless self-promotion and fake emotional outbursts.

I agree that Matteus' joke about his height was not a good idea, but I also didn't need Charlie Askew's long-winded introduction. Just sing the damn song. And his being a self-described social misfit doesn't jibe with his having had a girl friend for 2 years. So I'm wondering if there isn't a degree of calculation in the image he's trying to project. I also feel like his singing is just on the edge of being Broadway show-tune.

Agree with all those who said Michah got robbed. The eliminations seemed very inconsistent. He sang as well or better than several guys who went through. And his exit was maybe the classiest I've ever seen on this show.

I wasn't impressed during that short clip of The Turbanator, but maybe he got credit for singing "Georgia on my Mind," an actual SONG, as opposed to the tune-less piffle that everyone else sang. Maybe I'm showing my age, but I enjoyed the group night a lot more, because Motown and some of the other classic pops songs that were performed have real melodies and a sense of fun. The songs from last night mostly seemed to be just exercises in indulgent self-pity.

Edited by Northwester, Feb 8, 2013 @ 2:41 PM.


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Posted Feb 8, 2013 @ 3:14 PM

I really love Nicki. She doesn't mince her words. I was concerned we'd have a J.Lo situation on our hands, where she actually gave good criticism during auditions and then became a complete nonentity for the rest of the season, but it doesn't look like that's going to happen. She does get a lot of camera time, but she's the one with interesting things to say, so it makes sense. Keith gets a lot of quips in, too, but he's a lot quieter and more understated, so I can see how his (actually pretty excellent) sense of humor flies under the radar. As for the others, the less Randy talks, the better, and maybe Mariah just hasn't said much? Hard to tell.

So glad to see the back of Matteus and Peachez. I can see Charlie Askew getting annoying really fast. (I was just imagining his ex-girlfriend watching watching his speech and facepalming.) Happy Harpreet made it, though.

I can't believe they cut Gabe and Nate in a damn montage. They could have at least let us say goodbye!

Edited by NikkiElizabeth, Feb 8, 2013 @ 3:16 PM.


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Posted Feb 8, 2013 @ 3:20 PM

I can't believe I'm going to write this, but I've actually grown to like Nicki Minaj, despite the fact that I've never heard her music before this show and I'm closer to Mariah's age. Even with the goofy outfits (which amuse me), I agree with her most of the time, including nearly 100% of her comments during this episode. To me, she's kind of in the Simon role--giving the harsh truth or saying what many audience members are thinking. Good for her for telling the short kid to quit the pity party, and telling Jolly to pull it together and be a professional for one minute. I don't even mind the brit accent--I think it's funny. So I'm enjoying her, which is more than I can say for Mariah, who has never done it for me. I know she's talented but she's just never been my cup of tea as a performer, and now as a judge, all she does is eyeroll Nicki or give little smiles of approval to her pet contestants. Plus, the clothes DO NOT FIT. Yikes, I'm dreading that a seam is gonna burst at any second.

I agree with the posters who think this is turning into the Nicki Minaj Show because she's the only one saying the things worth putting into the final edit. I'm sure they have footage of other judges talking, and if they're really not talking, then they're not doing their jobs as judges.

Randy is Randy, so (ho-hum) nothing's new there, and Keith is good eye candy (although I could've done without his cowboy with a big gun T-shirt on this episode, which was a total buzzkill for me--I thought he was damn near perfect until he trotted out wearing that).

ETA: NikkiElizabeth, you beat me to it. Aside from agreeing with you on Nicki, I also agree that it was a pity they didn't show why Nate got cut. I liked that kid and was shocked he got the boot so soon.

Edited by Shira, Feb 8, 2013 @ 3:24 PM.


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Posted Feb 8, 2013 @ 3:34 PM

Minaj is blunt, but without Simon's smooth self-regardant charm (and even that was growing thin).
But I agree, I would prefer bluntness most of the time. I just don't agree with her that attitude is more important than talent (though it is important).

Micah bought it because of his looks, yeah. "The Voice" claims that looks aren't important, and they don't regard them and that's not true. After the auditions, it's mostly 'how-do-we-get-rid-of-these-people-we-couldn't-see-when-we-let-them-through?'

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Posted Feb 8, 2013 @ 3:59 PM

See, I see Nicki and Jlo as the same thing. Both vastly untalented and hugely unqualified. Both interrupts rudely when other people disagrees with them. The only thing they have now is that Nicki would throw a tantrum and leave if other people don't agree with her.

Edited by argrow, Feb 8, 2013 @ 4:00 PM.


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Posted Feb 8, 2013 @ 4:06 PM

I agree that Matteus' joke about his height was not a good idea, but I also didn't need Charlie Askew's long-winded introduction. Just sing the damn song. And his being a self-described social misfit doesn't jibe with his having had a girl friend for 2 years. So I'm wondering if there isn't a degree of calculation in the image he's trying to project. I also feel like his singing is just on the edge of being Broadway show-tune.


I think Charlie was putting on a performance. That was his "clever" (or not) way of introducing the song. He was in character for the song. He may have very well just broken up with a girlfriend, but I don't think it was necessarily true, nor had to be.

As for the judges, I like Nicki's bluntness, although sometimes it's heavy-handed ... but so was Simon's. I think Keith has a quiet, dry wit and I do like how you see him singing along silently with the contestants. Mariah looks like she's imbibing the performances. She sits straight up and has her eyes almost closed. It's a little weird, like she's being hit by wavelengths or something. LOL. In any event, I loved her little witticism to Charlie, the guy who sings to birds, when she wanted him to step forward: "migrate to the front."

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Posted Feb 8, 2013 @ 6:15 PM

As for the judges, I like Nicki's bluntness, although sometimes it's heavy-handed ... but so was Simon's. I think Keith has a quiet, dry wit and I do like how you see him singing along silently with the contestants. Mariah looks like she's imbibing the performances. She sits straight up and has her eyes almost closed. It's a little weird, like she's being hit by wavelengths or something. LOL. In any event, I loved her little witticism to Charlie, the guy who sings to birds, when she wanted him to step forward: "migrate to the front."


THIS!

You picked up on my favorite thing about each judge. I love Nicki's candor and straight talk. I love how Keith gets all into it during the performances. He's bopping away like a dork. We are similar in that respect. I also love how Mariah seems to be communicating on some other level with the performances. You can see her hands and her body dipping and rising and swaying with each octave change a singer makes. It reinforces my belief that Mimi is an alien in disguise, and it explains why she tends to respond more to melismatic singers. It reminds her of her home planet. LOL.

I do like this panel. I hope they each get equal camera time though. I suspect that this will be the case during the live shows, since they each need to speak.

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Posted Feb 8, 2013 @ 7:01 PM

Hah! I love that explanation of Mariah. I didn't catch 'migrate to the front' but I loved her telling the guy in the stilettos to "step ..err... sashay forward". I'm glad we weren't exposed to whatever performance he did behind the veil.

I succeeded in not watching the audition shows but they sucked me back in with the various changes to Hollywood week with the new judges and the male/female split. I'm still not sure wheter I like the male/female split or the judges but I guess I'll be hanging about for a bit even if it's in spite of my better judgement.

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Posted Feb 8, 2013 @ 9:12 PM

I was trying to figure out why Mariah kept sitting sideways. Does she think that's slimming, that angle?

Mariah is notorious for contorting her body into unnatural poses to make sure that her right side is facing the cameras. She also seems very clingy to Randy, so the fact that he was on her right side probably caused her to be extra creative in speaking to him without exposing her left cheek.

Have we ever heard Veil Guy sing? Maybe he's awesome. He wouldn't have made it past the first audition in the Simon years no matter how great he was.

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Posted Feb 8, 2013 @ 11:13 PM

think Charlie was putting on a performance. That was his "clever" (or not) way of introducing the song. He was in character for the song. He may have very well just broken up with a girlfriend, but I don't think it was necessarily true, nor had to be.


I honestly don't care if it was a performance or not because, unlike a good number of them, he came to sing. And he didn't cry or tell us that his whole life hinged on this performance, so he's still my favorite. (Plus, and I know this is an odd reason, he's got the same last name as one of my favorite governors of my state, so...)

Nikki is on my last nerve most of the time although I do have to say that even if she is obnoxious about it, most of what is coming out of her mouth is on the money.

I love how Keith gets all into it during the performances. He's bopping away like a dork.


Perfect! I have no idea what Keith Urban sounds like singing but he's funny and he's smiling, which, after hours of the drama around him, is damn impressive.

I enjoyed the group night a lot more, because Motown and some of the other classic pops songs that were performed have real melodies and a sense of fun. The songs from last night mostly seemed to be just exercises in indulgent self-pity.


Yes! And most of the songs last night were not songs I'd heard anyway. What was that song Peaches sang that Nikki hated so much? Who sings the song about jars of hearts? I am not up enough on my top 40, obviously.

Edited by culturevulture73, Feb 8, 2013 @ 11:15 PM.


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Posted Feb 8, 2013 @ 11:28 PM

I didn't recognize a lot of the songs, but 'Jar of Hearts' is by Christina Perri. Katrina Parker performed it on The Voice.

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Posted Feb 8, 2013 @ 11:39 PM

What was that song Peaches sang that Nikki hated so much? Who sings the song about jars of hearts?


Peachez sang Lady Gaga's "You and I", which coincidentally debuted on AI, sung by Haley Reinhart. Also, "Jar of Hearts" debuted on Nigel's other show, SYTCYD, several years ago.

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Posted Feb 9, 2013 @ 2:47 AM

Does Nicki have beef with Gaga?

I can't really keep up. I know Mariah Carey, Barbara Walters, Lil Kim, and Steven Tyler are all people she has beefed with at some point. Apparently, you don't get a "legend pass" from Nicki. She will come after you regardless of your age or experience in the biz.

I'm not sure why she detested that Gaga song right off the bat though. She asked him why he would sing that song, and I was thinking that it seemed perfectly natural that Papa Peaches would sing Lady Gaga.

Maybe Nicki wants to be THE ONLY diva of glorifying weirdness, which would explain her instant offended attitude with his song selection. If Peaches was smart, he would have sang Super Bass.

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Posted Feb 9, 2013 @ 4:50 PM

Have we ever heard Veil Guy sing?


He was in the Country Queen group and sang then, I didn't think any of them should have gone through. Apparently his "name" is JDA.

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Posted Feb 9, 2013 @ 9:16 PM

Not a fan of Charlie Askew at all. Not buying his sob story of being a misfit, etc. The guy is also very unattractive - short, bad dental. I just find him annoying.

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Posted Feb 10, 2013 @ 12:46 AM

Does Nicki have beef with Gaga?

I can't really keep up. I know Mariah Carey, Barbara Walters, Lil Kim, and Steven Tyler are all people she has beefed with at some point. Apparently, you don't get a "legend pass" from Nicki. She will come after you regardless of your age or experience in the biz.

I'm not sure why she detested that Gaga song right off the bat though. She asked him why he would sing that song, and I was thinking that it seemed perfectly natural that Papa Peaches would sing Lady Gaga.

Maybe Nicki wants to be THE ONLY diva of glorifying weirdness, which would explain her instant offended attitude with his song selection. If Peaches was smart, he would have sang Super Bass.


I think it was just the song. Earlier someone sang Edge of Glory and she was smiling and had no problem with that Gaga song.

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Posted Feb 10, 2013 @ 10:31 AM

Curtis Finch, Jr. and his face-pulling and general douchiness cannot get off my TV fast enough. His facial expressions whilst singing are so forced. Cortez Shaw and his over-the-top wailing also annoys me. Charlie Askew seems pretentious to me. Devin Velez' appearance is not for TV. Majority of those who made it were feminine, effeminate, whiners, or crybabies.

Matheus getting booted? YES!!!

Randy Jackson did not inspire me to commit violence this week.

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Posted Feb 10, 2013 @ 1:55 PM

I agree that it was that the song "You and I" was a bad choice in Niki's opinion, and I agree with her. She had told Peachez in the group round that he had to quit coasting by like he was above it all and didn't care, and show some real effort. "You and I" is sleepy and dull and not a good showcase for his talent. It's just not a very good song for a singer. No one really loved it on Haley Reinhart, either.

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Posted Feb 11, 2013 @ 5:31 PM

Maybe Peachez really needed Herb. (sorry about that)

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Posted Feb 13, 2013 @ 7:58 AM

I don't doubt the producers will ensure he doesn't make the top 12, otherwise, he could possibly derail their blatantly obvious efforts to have a girl winner this season.


This is exaqctly what I was thinking!...that Charlie could get cut just because he's too good. I don't think it will happen in the end though, there would be too much of an uproar, even at this early stage. As for a girl winning, really, why should the producers care, as long as the Idol sells records? The only reason I can think of, is thatIdol is battling their image of hoarding money because of the number of votes allowed, and when boys win, it's obvious there are a lot of tweens and teens voting. So a girl winning would prove that anyone can win even with this voting system.
I don't think it'll work. If not Charlie, it'll be a different guy. And Charlie says he plays a lot of instruments; if he accompanies himself on both guitar and piano at some point, he could be a real contender.

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Posted Feb 13, 2013 @ 11:55 AM

I realize there are about a billion reasons besides this to not watch this show, but I don't know what the point is in watching up through the audience vote because all that happens is that I get to know some, like some, and feel invested in some but don't have a chance to try and keep them in (Micah) or I don't even get to hear their performance to even know why they were given the boot (Nick). All that happens is that I feel like I've wasted time watching this show. I mean more than normal.

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Posted Feb 14, 2013 @ 3:21 PM

I know Micah. I went to bootcamp with the guy. He's incredibly humble, one of the sweetest men I've ever met, and that voice has always been that awesome. He's not "special needs". I was PISSED to see him not go on, especially when the RuPaul-wannabe got to continue. But unfortunately I agree with everyone else - even Charlie Askew has that "quirky cute" thing going for him.

Why does American Idol continue to pretend like it's "discovering talent"? Any original talent in America gets a YouTube account.

Edited by digitalrhapsody, Feb 14, 2013 @ 3:24 PM.