Posted Feb 5, 2013 @ 11:13 PM
Posted Feb 5, 2013 @ 11:26 PM
Sean is still being a sucker with Tierra. She finds a way to make it all about her everytime. While the other girls and Sean were wrapping in robes and shiny blankets. Tierra was running around in her bikini and not following instructions. Then she puts on a good act of being just hurt enough to get attention from Sean, but not enough to go to the hospital and miss anything. Does Sean not see this pattern with her?
I enjoyed this ep because I have been to Lake Louise a few times and stayed there and done the canoeing, etc. So it was interesting for that.
Posted Feb 5, 2013 @ 11:27 PM
I still cannot believe he kept Tierra. After the drama. Again. And the constant bitchface. I didn't believe her hypothermia any more than I did the dead boyfriend. I think she decided to milk it for all it was worth. I have gotten to that point you get so chilled you get the body shakes. You have a warm drink, put on warm clothes and are fine. It obviously wasn't serious enough to go to the hospital. Her body temp was fine. She is drama. Please god let her go away next week.
Felt a little bad for Sarah but thank god this is over for her. Canoeing? Really? After roller derby and carrying straw bales? Really? And poor Daniella. Pretty but not that bright.
So 2 go next week to 4 for hometowns? Hmmm. My front runners are firmly Lindsey and Catherine. Des and Lesley are in there too and I can't figure out where Ashlee fits. I see Tierra finally going home next week. Please?
Posted Feb 5, 2013 @ 11:47 PM
Also, these extreme sporting dates suck - I would hate doing any of those things- repelling down mountains, climbing up mountains. swimming in ice cold water- no thank you! The igloo date was so romantic...
Edited by Higgie, Feb 5, 2013 @ 11:51 PM.
Posted Feb 6, 2013 @ 12:14 AM
Posted Feb 6, 2013 @ 12:32 AM
And I see that was tough and game and literally could do anything the other girls could do (seriously, she canoed! and polar bear plunged!), but her attitude kinda sucked. Whenever Sean pulled her aside, she was super negative about it. When her dog was brought in specially for her, she freaked out saying, 'am i going home?' and never really got over it to enjoy the special treat she got from Sean. When they went rollerblading and she was bad at it (but no worse than the other girls, really) she freaked out and wanted major reassurance. When he pulled her aside tonight, she started with 'Am I in trouble?'. Sigh.
So my advice for Sarah is to go to therapy, get some perspective and recognize that you kick ass, and stop trying to base your self worth on your ability to reel in a man. Especially when that man is also dating 24 other women. Her exit was really sad though.
Speaking of therapy - AshLee, I think you need some too. That blindfold trick gave me the heebyjeebies.
Sean lights up around Catherine but doesn't do that with anyone else. She seems to be way out in the lead.
ETA: holy smokes. Lesley has a smoking figure. I didnt foresee that she would look so much better in a bathing suit than Tierra and Daniella.
Edited by fionab, Feb 6, 2013 @ 12:36 AM.
Posted Feb 6, 2013 @ 12:33 AM
Posted Feb 6, 2013 @ 12:36 AM
Sean didn't do any of that. The producers of the show think of every date, every time. In every season of the bachelor/ette their have been many physical challenges including rock climbing, swimming with sharks, cliff diving etc. None of the Bachelors sit down and say things like "What can I do that is dangerous to this girl?" These dates are planned out way before the show starts. I actually thought Sara did well on all the challenges but if she didn't want to do this kind of stuff she should not have come on the show
ean, it wasn't your job to challenge her or push her -- I'm sure she manages to find obstacles every stinking day of her life. It was quite sad to listen to her departing video -- she questioned her self
Glad to see Sara sent home; it must have been very awkward for Sean to like her but just not in that way. I really don't think he likes Tierra either although he acts like he does so I have to assume some of it is for dramatic purposes.
I did laugh when all of the other girls came away from the Polar Bear plunge perfectly fine, but Tierra once again was almost comatose.
Still like Sean and don't agree that he is stupid or an idiot. He is a college graduate and makes a decent living. To me someone stupid would have a very borderline IQ and would be a dishwasher or something. Also: being tall and big doesn't equal stupid, I know because I'm married to someone very tall, very blonde and not stupid. Of course no one who goes on these shows is a genus either.
Glad Selma is gone too. You can't come out and say your parent's religious beliefs are so important to you then wear a pound of makeup, excessive cleavage and then kiss the Bachelor when you said you cannot do so. She seems way too high maintenance for Sean. Still liking Catherine, Ashlee and Lindsay for his final three (I really like Des and think she is beautiful but just not sure Sean does).
Edited by Maddingcrowd, Feb 6, 2013 @ 12:42 AM.
Posted Feb 6, 2013 @ 12:42 AM
Along those lines, props to Selma for standing up to peer pressure.
Also, this show's producers (and, imo, Sean) LOVE to have the women be uncomfortable in various challenging activities--imo, some of them risky;
re: Tierra. Was she disoriented when she came out? Is that why she was running around in her bikini so long? And why didn't they put a robe on her? That ..mylar?.. blanket was covering so little of her. Was that really the best and most professional response?
Sorry Sarah was so disappointed, but surely she could see it coming. There are several women (inc. Tierra) that he obviously seems to feel more for. Why -would- he keep her?
Posted Feb 6, 2013 @ 1:33 AM
This made me LOL -- Selma may indeed be "high maintenance," but there's a difference between being whiny and having a legitimate complaint. I certainly don't think it's unreasonable to express discomfort with temperature extremes, and there is no way in hell I would ever do a "polar bear plunge." That shit can stop your heart. I say props to Selma for refusing. Ostensibly these women should be winning over the guy with their personality; these "extreme sports" stunts and challenges make it seem more like some kind of gladitorial competition than anything else. Last woman standing wins! In the real world, most people would admire someone who is strong enough to say "I'm not willing to do [fill in the blank] just to impress this douche," yet in bizarro world (that is, the world of The Bachelor), they get derided for not risking life and limb. Here's something I'd like for this franchise to acknowledge, just once: some people are not spontaneous, up-for-anything, wild-and-crazy adventurers, and that's okay. I guess it doesn't make for great television but you can still be a really fun person and not, for example, be willing to go cliff diving.
[Selma] thought it was too hot on one date and too cold on the other. Sean doesn't like the type.
All that being said in praise of Selma, I really can't imagine that if her parents would be any more okay with her showing ample cleavage than they would be with her giving a dude a peck on the lips. Personally the latter seems a lot more benign to me, but I guess it's just a matter of opinion.
Edited by BookBee, Feb 6, 2013 @ 1:33 AM.
Posted Feb 6, 2013 @ 2:00 AM
Now that Gorgeous Jackie is gone, I'm throwing my support behind Lindsay. She seems fun, cheerful, and genuine. If she's the next bachelorette, I'm signing up for her season.
Posted Feb 6, 2013 @ 2:22 AM
Sarah - I felt so sorry for her. I think she gets the "you're so incredible and one day you're going to make somebody very very happy" line because she's sweet and who wants to hurt a girl with one arm while breaking up with her? It's the soft landing that any decent guy would give her.
BrigetteWilsonSampras/BritneySpears/Daniella was way too emotional. How many times did we see her cry during her talking heads? She was probably one of the most insecure women left. She needs a therapist.
Selma's "big guns" sure were out tonight. Who knows if she had done the polar plunge if the outcome would have been different. Guess it's 'against her culture' to kiss a guy on national tv, but you can have your fake boobs popping out and you can simulate hand jobs.
AshLee - you are really starting to bring the crazy. I'm thinking you need some therapy too. I had no idea what the heck she was saying with the blindfold crap. If it's not Tierra next, then I think it's AshLee.
Tierra - All the girls jumped on her for faking it, but there were some scenes were hands were trembling and her eyes looked glazed. But I do think that the rest of it back in the room with the oxygen prongs in her nose was indeed her milking the situation. I think she'll be cut right before hometown dates.
I'm picking Lindsey for the win. If she doesn't win this, then I think she's a shoe-in for the next Bachelorette.
Posted Feb 6, 2013 @ 2:52 AM
And what's the deal with women going on this show for therapy? (Ashlee, I'm looking at you and your blindfold.)
It's weird, isn't it? Apparently couch potatoes and desk jockeys have no right to "true love." "True love" can only be found if you're a hairs-breadth from instant death. I know they think it makes for better TV, but it doesn't have to be downright life-threatening. Not that Tierra's life was actually threatened -- I'm not even sure she had hypothermia.
I say props to Selma for refusing. Ostensibly these women should be winning over the guy with their personality; these "extreme sports" stunts and challenges make it seem more like some kind of gladitorial competition than anything else. Last woman standing wins! In the real world, most people would admire someone who is strong enough to say "I'm not willing to do [fill in the blank] just to impress this douche," yet in bizarro world (that is, the world of The Bachelor), they get derided for not risking life and limb. Here's something I'd like for this franchise to acknowledge, just once: some people are not spontaneous, up-for-anything, wild-and-crazy adventurers, and that's okay.
Selma had the oddest laugh!
Thank yow for saying that! My current bugaboo is misuse of prepositions: Ashlee's "I don't want him to fall victim of her manipulations," in just one case.
Yes, Sarah is sweet and very pretty and I hope she finds someone fabulous, but I found her voice annoying and it really bugs me when people say "thank yow" instead of "thank you."
Did anyone notice a giant ring that looked like an engagement ring on Catherine's left hand when she hugged Sean? This was right after he got out of the snow bus. I froze it on my DVR, it was definitely on her ring finger, left hand. It has a double band like engagement/wedding sets do. It caught my eye, but I don't really think it means anything. (Cue conspiracy music) Or does it? Muaaaaahhahahaha...
Edited by GlamSnooky, Feb 6, 2013 @ 4:09 AM.
Posted Feb 6, 2013 @ 6:14 AM
High maintenance or not, IMO Sean was never, ever going to pick Selma.
Nor is he going to pick Tierra, if he wants a life not spent placating her.
These are "dates"? I think those who conjure them up have a very questionable mentality in asking young women (and Sean!) to perform literally death-defying actions with no prior training. I mean, when the show needs an EMT on hand....
I think anyone attaching these terms to Sean is referring to his "women smarts," not his formal education, employment, or size (has anyone even suggested the last is a negative for him? It's not like Sean is The Hulk.).
Still like Sean and don't agree that he is stupid or an idiot. He is a college graduate and makes a decent living.... Also: being tall and big doesn't equal stupid
Edited by LennieB, Feb 6, 2013 @ 6:35 AM.
Posted Feb 6, 2013 @ 6:36 AM
Personally, I think it is insane that the producers think asking inexperienced women to climb rock faces, repel down rock faces, swim in 32 degrees, etc., is asking for a serious accident. I don't believe any of Tierra's shenanigans, but I do think someone could have a serious catastrophe with what is being asked of these women.
And I can't stand how Sean thinks it's so great to "push" the women "out of their comfort zone". Since when are physical challenges the only way to do that, and why is pushing oneself physically a fun way to spend a date?
And Tierra belongs in a treatment center for mental illness, not on a TV show. She looks crazy in every shot. I'd be worried being in the same house with her.
Posted Feb 6, 2013 @ 7:24 AM
Way to go Selma for not feeling pressured into doing that plunge. I was proud of her.
I did not think what he did to Sarah was in any way "nice" or "considerate." It actually infuriated me. He blindsided her after a nice date in which she had no idea anything was coming. At least when the women go to the rose ceremony they prepare mentally for a possible departure. He added unnecessary pain there singling her out and kicking her to the curb in front of everyone after a full day.
Catherine seems to be the frontrunner. I love Lesley. She is my pick for Bachelorette if she doesn't win. Girl is smart, beautiful and funny. She could hold a show.
Posted Feb 6, 2013 @ 7:54 AM
To me, he is really becoming an a**hole.
I also agree with the above about Sarah...sending her home early was embarrassing, not nice. It was like saying--I know so surely that I don't want you around anymore that I am getting rid of you now versus in two days. Lovely.
Posted Feb 6, 2013 @ 8:05 AM
Daniella is definitely insecure and I kept yelling at her when she was moaning about not having a one on one "he doesn't like you!!"
You can fake glazed eyes. The body shakes can come from being really chilled and in wet clothes. I still think she way exaggerated. If it were serious she'd have gone to the hospital.
Sean is not stupid nor an idiot on the IQ scale but he ain't that bright on the common sense or people skills scale.
Love Lesley!! I'd totally watch her as the Bette. I like to think she's one I would only like more such as Jillian or Merrdith.
Posted Feb 6, 2013 @ 8:10 AM
At least he's not a Ben level of loathsome "I have no conversational skills so rather than have an awkward discussion, I'll make out with you before the rose ceremony so I don't have to talk and then I'll dump you."
Regarding the polar bear swim, hundreds if not thousands of people around the world do them on New Years Day, often for charity, at least where I live. In properly controlled circumstances, they are not dangerous,unless you are a idiot like Tierra of feels that rules do not apply to her. Of course I'm not saying everyone should have been pushed to do it. I certainly wouldn't want to do it. I hate the cold. I used to live in Calgary and I don't know if I ever went to Lake Louise in the winter. FYI, it's just as lovely in the summer.
Posted Feb 6, 2013 @ 8:23 AM
My favorite for awhile has been Lesley. She is aggressive though, she piped up first about sitting in the canoe with Sean, grabbed his hand for the polar bear water plunge, and I notice she tries to seat herself next to him. But I am getting more of a friend vibe from Sean so she may not be F1.
Posted Feb 6, 2013 @ 8:33 AM
Edited by coconutcookie, Feb 6, 2013 @ 8:34 AM.
Posted Feb 6, 2013 @ 8:43 AM
Catherine was bouncing around on the bus and playing in the snow like a kid and I think that appealed to Sean. I didn't think she got much of a date but Sean was probably pleased that she is easy and up for anything. I would't want to be on this season when most dates involve stunts or sitting somewhere freezing.
Posted Feb 6, 2013 @ 8:50 AM
Posted Feb 6, 2013 @ 8:56 AM
Posted Feb 6, 2013 @ 8:58 AM
I expect Ashley to be the next to go and I'm glad. I think she's a diamond, insecurities or not, and I want someone better for her.
I also think my other early pick, Desiree may not make the final four.
At this point, I think my money would be on Tierra. When she's not hogging the attention for herself the other women are directing it to her. When will they learn? Sean says he doesn't like drama but he blames the other women for causing it. Frankly, I think Tierra could jab needles in the backs of the other women and Sean wouldn't care. She's mastered the knack of standing inside his personal space while glowing up at him with her eyes and boobs sparkling at the same time. As Selma said to the other girls Sunday, "Be scared."
Posted Feb 6, 2013 @ 9:43 AM
I thought it was odd that Tierra, of all the girls, got "hypothermia" - to me, she has the most insulation. I wouldn't call her fat by any means, but I would call her "thick" with a few extra "layers."
Posted Feb 6, 2013 @ 10:06 AM
This TH segment actually made me LOL, it was so full of "double" (D) meaning.
I guess by "big guns" she was referring to kissing Sean, but in my mind, the only big guns I saw were those boobs popping out of the top of her low-cut dress.
Judy, I caught that, too. "You six are the women for me" is one of the best sentences to come out of this franchise.
Even for The Bachelor there's just something weird about statements like, "I had a moment of clarity. You six are the women for me."
When the women were being driven in to the lodge at the beginning of the show, Sean's VO ended with "one of these women could be my wife" (paraphrase) and the video ended with a close up of Catherine. Producer manipulation or ... ?
I forgot to mention on Monday's thread that Montana is my absolutely most favorite place EVAH. I nearly cried when I had to fly home from Bozeman after a business trip. But Alberta and Banff ... good grief. Absolutely GORGEOUS. Breathtaking scenery.
And because of that, I agree that it was especially cruel to send Sarah home early. So she wouldn't have to "sit around for two days" before being kicked out? Really? I'd be happy to sit at that lodge for a month without a single thought of going on a date with Sean.
Sarah's exit was the first one I've ever felt badly for the outcast. Her exit speech was heartrending, although as another posted, she needs to feel good about herself and not let herself depend on having a man to being a complete person. There is some truth to the old saying, "Be careful what you wish for," Sarah! Although if she's always been put in a corner (TM Baby) because of her one-arm-ness, her doing all these physically challenging stunts should help her feel more self-worth. I hope, anyway. If she's reading here, you do need to work on that nasally voice, though. That's the big drag, not the arm.
No exit TH for Daniella? Just "I'm so confused." That gal was confused a lot for sure.
Got a kick out of Selma. She's a desert person, no cold swimming for her. Yet at Joshua Tree she hated the heat and desert. Selma hates all kinds of weather! Although good on her for refusing the polar dip even if it did mean she got sent home. Or maybe it was that kiss that sent her home; Sean decided it wasn't worth the wait.
Total BS on T's fakery fake hypothermia. Polar bear dips are done all the time and in conditions WAY colder than 32F. It's a New Year's Day tradition here, IF they can get the ice hacked out enough to find water. Hypothermia doesn't happen in two minutes, either. That was a producer set up, which is why they had the EMT and other "medical" person there. T was in on it but no one else was so their horrified reactions could be filmed. It was just another Fleiss manipulation.
Although Sean was funny later when T came to the party and Sean took her hand: "Your hand is warm" and T replied, "But my body is still so cold inside." (paraphrase) So true!
Noticed that Sean's cold-weather dates have agreed with his coloring, but Lobster Sean returns next episode.
Posted Feb 6, 2013 @ 10:26 AM
Or not. She's been puttin' with those crappy physical dates, overcomes a lot more that those other "women" and she's the one put aside. And yet, Tierra is still here. When sociopath wins over handicaped, it musts break any kind of confidence you have.
Sarah's exit was the first one I've ever felt badly for the outcast. Her exit speech was heartrending, although as another posted, she needs to feel good about herself and not let herself depend on having a man to being a complete person. There is some truth to the old saying, "Be careful what you wish for," Sarah! Although if she's always been put in a corner (TM Baby) because of her one-arm-ness, her doing all these physically challenging stunts should help her feel more self-worth.
That was a heartbreaking exit. I can see why she feels cursed. The friendzone girl.
Posted Feb 6, 2013 @ 10:43 AM
Producers were really after T this episode. That, plus the back-and-forths between T's faked "hypothermia" and the other women being so pumped about Polar Diving that they wanted to do it again ... Priceless.
Did you notice the shot of poor weak Tierra chomping down on a burger? I don't think the producers like her either.
It was edited to seem like Sarah totally scared Sean with her family photos. His VO said something to that effect, that thinking about any of these women actually having FAMILY was more than he could deal with. Made me wonder how he'll handle any of the hometowns much less Des'. Although her tree-climbing skills rocked.
After Des' tale of living in a series tents, trailer parks and little apartments, I wonder what her hometown date will be like and what her parents are like.
I also wonder whether he'll bring any roadkill along for his future mom-in-law to fry up for dinner at those HTs.