As to the way these writers deal with female characters, I think it's interesting that they couldn't find a way to make Lindsey "interesting" going forward without connecting her to a man to give her a backstory. It would have been more interesting for me as a viewer if they found a way to make her complicate Raylan's life w/o bringing an ex lover into it.
, As a viewer, I feel the same about Rachel. Why can't she be fully fleshed, with all her strengths & weaknesses, without bringing in a male/husband as an explanation of why she may be unable to hold it together. Ick. She has enough going on to be able to construct a more interesting narrative. That's just me. I thought Lindsey started out as interesting. I won't repeat what I think about that Lindsey saw the money in the drawer device to make her into something else. How nice would it have been just to have Lindsey's bar recurring as a place for the characters to have occasional down time together, Lindsey as a font of wisdom & truths ;) That is probably another boring trope as well, LOL.
I wouldn't label Elmore Leonard as a misogenyst. I don't see that. His style of writing is his and his works (and movies based on them) have a myriad fans, male and female. Like most respected writers, he writes what he knows. His Raylan bears only glancing resemblance to our TV. I have admiration for his writing style, and there is a lot of wit, but I have no love for his books, characters or plots. Fire in the Hole
was short, thank goodness, and being the first EL read, I could appreciate how the series came to be. Could not wait to buy Raylan
(actually, I got it from the library); I got 3/4 through Raylan
and could not finish no matter how many times I tried. I really struggled to finish Pronto
. IMO, Justified writers have done a fine job using the source material, and have lifted some passages-dialogue included- that worked very, very well and quite humorously. When they springboard from EL, the results have been brilliant (ie, Walton's Boyd, Tim's Raylan, etc). Mining for ideas is one thing. That they may still be wearing WWLD arm bands scares the sh** out of me. Free your minds, writers.
I wouldn't say that. That's like saying the Justified writers have a problem with black characters because they made Limehouse and Joey Adair villains. This is a crime series and most of the people shown in this universe are going to be bad or broken on some level.
, I was agreeing with what you had said, straight up, without interpretation. I did not mean to appear to be interpreting what you said by my segue into my opinion. I started to edit and move my sentence starting with "IMO.." to a separate paragraph, but I was too lazy to log back in.
I can look at and talk about Justified
both in a straight-up entertainment way, but I also enjoy analyzing through the lens of mythology. Similar to the lens through which popular entertainment movies such as original Star Wars
or The Matrix
might be viewed: examples of the hero's journey, or several separate character journeys, reflected in archetypes, symbolism, myth and metaphor, masks of god, etc. It works for me and adds to the interest. There is no equivalence in the statement that saying the writers have a problem with female characters is the same as saying they have a problem with black characters. Stereotype and archetype are not the same thing in my analysis.
Very simplistically stated, secular mythologies are concerned with personal healing, transcendent spirituality achieved through personal experience, achieving wholeness, balancing and integrating the male and female aspects of the soul. Boyd, Ava, Limehouse, Raylan,Tim, et al are all struggling to make themselves whole.
ETA: The writers did their research and gave us a bit of history in Noble's Holler. I wish we get to see some of the women there this season or next.
Drat, I have to wait until tomorrow to watch on Amazon.
Edited by DrJoy, Jan 29, 2013 @ 6:50 PM.