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Posted Jan 20, 2013 @ 6:08 PM

From Zap2it:

To celebrate the success of "Wrong Song," Edgehill records throws a lavish party; things get awkward for Juliette, who brings her mother to the party; Teddy asks Rayna about her relationship with Liam.


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Posted Jan 23, 2013 @ 11:14 PM

LOVED this episode! Easily one of my favorites this season. So many characters had their stories deepen. It was so great to see Juliette's tears as she finally said something nice to her mother. And Rayna was so telling at the end, when the best she could say about choosing Teddy was that it was not the wrong choice.

Something that really solidified to me this week was how Juliette and Rayna have such different energies. Rayna is loved and lovable, expects and receives everyone's adoration. She kind of lives life on a golden cloud. Juliette is such thinly veiled desperation, with a real loser's mentality most of the time. Juliette feeling isolated on stage, and Rayna more laughing about Juliette's mom being in rehab- you could see these two in high school, Rayna the mean girl and Juliette the angry misfit.

Two new songs, but they were both so brief I don't really remember them. Glad the Gunlett duet was more upbeat.

Edited by TWoP Nikita, Jan 24, 2013 @ 12:00 AM.
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Posted Jan 23, 2013 @ 11:23 PM

Loved Deacon running for the plane and joining Juliette. He was badass putting on those glasses and not caring what Rayna's reaction was.

The entire on stage performance of her with Liam was kind of crossing into "they're having an affair" line. I can see why Teddy asked her what was going on. Liam's you can't walk away from me, the look he gave when Teddy showed up at the party. The way Rayna was all over him on stage made it look to me that they were more than just musical partners.

It's interesting that Rayna's so adored and seen as this Queen who can do know wrong when she has so many secrets in her closet, while Juliette's the opposite while Deacon gets articles about things untrue like falling off the wagon. It will be interesting to see Rayna fall from her pedestal and see the reaction of the press and her to being off her pedestal.

I found the laughing about Juliette's mom tacky from her, she's a mother herself, she knows how hard people are to get sober and Rayna's laughing about it? Loved Juliette finally opening up to her mother at the end and being there for her and for Deacon.

Frankly Juliette > Rayna. Rayna's really starting to grate on me.
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Posted Jan 23, 2013 @ 11:23 PM

I don't if it was my mood but I thought this was a very strong episode of the show. In fact, I think it may be my favorite episode. I feel like I know more about every single character than I did an hour before it started.

I don't know where to begin but we finally have answers on what went down with Deacon and Rayna. I especially loved the conversation she had with Teddy because it sheds a light on their marriage. I like that there were no secrets in the beginning. I admit I think I even want them to work it out.

I'm glad that Deacon finally took Juliette up on her offer. That moment on the plane was great! I can't say enough about how much I love their relationship. As much as Deacon and Rayna strike me as not good for one another, Deacon and Juliette's friendship strikes me as just the opposite so I was glad we got so much of it tonight.

Oh I still hate Scarlett. I cackled when she got such a sour face at Avery's concert. And I rolled my eyes when once again Gunnar yelled at her. Poor hurt puppy. But she won't abandon him after that because she's loyal.

Speaking of Avery, I did like how they're handling him. He is experiencing some success but one hit is not enough to make him somebody at the party he was at.

Just a very solid episode.

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Posted Jan 23, 2013 @ 11:38 PM

My first time posting on this board. Kinda surprised how much everyone seems to likes Juliette. To me she usually comes off as a spoiled brat. Tonight's episode was the first time I saw true depth to her character. I much prefer Rayna. Yes she can be a little bitchy towards Juliette, but you get what you give.

I do enjoy Juliette and Deacon's friendship. Long as it stays a friendship. Remembering that they've had sex grosses me out. I have also loved the chemistry between Rayna and Liam. Thought they were super hot together on stage. Kinda bummed she fired him and hope he isn't gone for good :/ Should get real interesting now with Deacon on the road with Juliette and Rayna.
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Posted Jan 23, 2013 @ 11:47 PM

Teddy had some depth tonight. The way he looked when Deacon got on the plane was hot. I am glad that Eric Close has wrestled his character free from the election storyline and joined the other interesting characters on screen.
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Posted Jan 23, 2013 @ 11:48 PM

I totally agree that this was one of the best episodes of the season! I feel like a lot of the characters have been in somewhat of a holding pattern in the past few episodes, but this one really seemed to push things forward.

I know a lot of people like Liam, but he's always rubbed me the wrong way. I've gotten a creepy vibe from him since the beginning. I feel like his motivation for agreeing to work with Rayna in the first place was the promise and challenge of eventually getting in her pants. Who knows if he's gone for good, and I could potentially live with him maybe being a love interest for Juliette at some point, but otherwise no thanks.

I definitely worship at the altar of Connie Britton but I have to admit Hayden really hit out of the park this week. Between her scenes with her mom and the one with Deacon, I was really impressed with the depth of emotion she brought to her scenes. I do like her friendship with Deacon as long as it stays a friendship. Even more so than that, I want to eventually see Rayna/Juliette bond. It has to happen at some point, right?

Teddy/Rayna make me want to rip my hair out. I understand that having children makes things more complicated but their repetitive conversations about their very clearly dead marriage and painfully cold and platonic physical interactions make me want to scream. Put a fork in it already! I have to say though, the best part of the episode to me was Teddy's face when Deacon ran past him to get on that plane.

Edited by TWoP Nikita, Jan 24, 2013 @ 12:15 AM.
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Posted Jan 23, 2013 @ 11:52 PM

I must have been in the same mood ..this ep really amped up the action in my view ... couldn't believe how quickly Liam's "stock" with Rayna rose and fell? Wow.... clearly her many negative experiences with her father, then Deacon's repeated falls from grace/off the wagon and her most recent fight(s) with him, plus finding out Teddy isn't "Mr. Rock Solid Perfect Husband" recently all have lowered her tolerance for male shenanigans to about ZERO? She totally went off on him ... reminded me of ME?

I kind of hated finding out Liam was peddling Rayna for profit, but hey, it happens. I LOVE LOVE LOVE that NO character in this show is without flaws, foibles,and missteps so I was glad to see he's not immune either, actually. I do hope it's not the end of him ...they're keeping plenty of others who are far from perfect around! Maybe his intentions were good, but he flat sure went about achieving them the wrong way.

Rayna is loved and lovable, expects and receives everyone's adoration. She kind of lives life on a golden cloud.


I actually see her and Juliette as much more alike than different under the skin, aside from their differences in age and experience. Juliette: absentee father; flaky, undependable mother; serial bad relationships, guarded with commitment issues as a result; driven to succeed; control freak; bitchy and defensive when called out. Rayna ditto ... just with more money growing up and longer to acquire a veneer.

Teddy had some depth tonight. The way he looked when Deacon got on the plane was hot. I am glad that Eric Close has wrestled his character free from the election storyline and joined the other interesting characters on screen.


Agreed ...Teddy interested me more and elicited more sympathy from me than he ever has. Man's trying to hang in there but that "Deacon surprise" may just push him over the edge into Cheater-ville...

Edited by AmbrosiaL, Jan 23, 2013 @ 11:58 PM.

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Posted Jan 23, 2013 @ 11:58 PM

Really, both Juliette and Rayna have their weaknesses which I really appreciate. It makes them richer characters. And okay, did anyone else notice what a relief it was that we didn't have to slog through any election stuff this week?

Also part of me is kind of enjoying Avery's obvious path down Flame Out Road.
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Posted Jan 24, 2013 @ 12:02 AM

My first time posting on this board. Kinda surprised how much everyone seems to likes Juliette. To me she usually comes off as a spoiled brat. Tonight's episode was the first time I saw true depth to her character. I much prefer Rayna. Yes she can be a little bitchy towards Juliette, but you get what you give.

I do enjoy Juliette and Deacon's friendship. Long as it stays a friendship. Remembering that they've had sex grosses me out. I have also loved the chemistry between Rayna and Liam. Thought they were super hot together on stage. Kinda bummed she fired him and hope he isn't gone for good :/ Should get real interesting now with Deacon on the road with Juliette and Rayna.


I so agree with this! The conversation that sold it for me was when she was talking to Deacon at his house. Granted, the relationships are different but Rayna did clean Deacon up & it was a trying time for her as well. I'm not saying that it was just as bad as growing up with a mother like Jolene, but like Deacon said before Rayna worked for everything she has. Coming from a family with money des not make life perfect, especially when your father is clearly a super mustache -twirling villan! Someone upthread mentioned Rayna & Juliette are really more alike than shows on the surface. I wholeheartedly agree with that. I'm glad Juliette showed some growth by the end, but frankly I still have a bad taste in my mouth from the Sean thing (I know he was a party to it as well-but it really turned me off). Hopefully the eventual bonding will turn that around.

So far I have been in Deacon's corner but he is as much to blame as Rayna is in their relationship. Following some of their conversations was painfully confusing. I agree that he needs to be playing, but the whole plane thing was contrived & a crappy way to let Rayna know. Especially since based on the previews it seems he is going to be making a major play.

Liam was hot & I will miss him. I want him back.

Having said all that, I agree this was a great episode. Solid story, good background for Rayna etc, growth for Juliet, plot in general moving forward. One of the things I do like about this show is that pretty much everyone is flawed (except Scarlett but I just pretend she is a muppet-so she doesn't count). I do agree that Hayden is amazing in her role, even if I am not crazy about her character.

Edited by gik910, Jan 24, 2013 @ 12:11 AM.

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Posted Jan 24, 2013 @ 12:13 AM

I really liked that brief moment of Avery finding his song on the radio, and his glee and innocent joy in that one moment. And boy do I love Jonathan Jackson's smile.
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Posted Jan 24, 2013 @ 12:18 AM

Yeah, I surprisingly loved this episode in particular as well. First, while I always thought the acting was good, it was even better this time. Some real strong performances from Connie Britton, Charles Esten, Eric Close, and, once again, Hayden Panettiere. Those four in particular just owned the screen tonight.

The other big thing was I thought it was one of the few episodes that was great to both Rayna and Juliette's character. Both of them are so flawed and can be extremely annoying, but I find myself rooting for them, or feeling bad when something bad happens. Rayna does seem stuck up, mean-spirited, and harsh at times, but I then remember her history with Deacon, and how her entire life has had adversity like that. Or that Juliette can be a major bitch and disrespectful to others, but still shows enough decency in her that I really think she can be a good person if she can just get her act together. Loved her scene with her mom. I hope they keep it up with those two characters.

I really hope Deacon is able to void falling off that wagon and messing up his life. And Ted has become much more interesting and even sympathetic now. Nice job.

I should have known though that as soon as I said that Liam might be my favorite character last week, he ends up being an asshole tonight.

Not everything is different; still get annoyed by both Scarlett and Gunnar. But I'm at least curious about them teaming with Avery's former band, and seeing where that goes. As for old Avery, looks like he has a hit song, but I still suspect he's on a path that will lead him to a long fall.

Glad they at least mentioned Coleman. I do hope they have more plans for him.

Edited by thuganomics85, Jan 24, 2013 @ 1:10 AM.

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Posted Jan 24, 2013 @ 12:30 AM

Yes, ggmarie--I loved Avery's joy and glee immediately withering and dying when he saw his ex-girlfriend, her potential love interest, and the band he also screwed over jamming out and sounding really awesome!

I thought this was a great episode--I too thought the writers had Rayna's character off tonight--she was incredibly mean and dismissive to Juliette from beginning to end. She has to know about the rehab issues with Juliette's mom, lived through loving an alcoholic who repeatedly fell off the wagon, yet laughs about her mom's court hearing? She takes a free ride on her plane, never seems to thank Juliette for it, eats her bean dip, etc.

I also don't believe she would turn on Liam THAT QUICKLY but would have been in a fight with him over his failure to be forthright with her (why wouldn't he have just told her he thinks her new sound is awesome, her label is holding her back and he wants her to talk to his label?)

Then again, she fired TWO guitarists last week so maybe the writers are showing continuity with Rayna and she's more of a prima donna rock star than we all want to admit for our Tammi Terrell.

I thought Juliette's character was amazing. She has hardened her heart to her mom for so long because of all the pain she suffered, and you could see how much her mom's praise of her built her up. I feel for that kid--trying to do it all on her own all these years. And how she tried to help Deacon when she must at times just want to wash her hands of another addict in her life. I definitely admire her more now.

Deacon was pretty freakin awesome in that last scene. I LOVED that. So what will happen when they're on tour and Rayna realizes he and Juliette have slept together or Juliette realizes Deacon and Rayna still have the hots for each other? It's not going to be good for the Rayna-Juliette relationship, that's for sure!
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Posted Jan 24, 2013 @ 12:37 AM

Avery reminds me of Natalie Portman's ill-fated country-star-wannabe boyfriend in Where the Heart Is. Hope he doesn't end up having his legs chopped off by a train.

Best episode so far, I think. I love all the music industry drama, but I found myself losing interest in Rayna's deep conversations with Deacon and Teddy.

I'm rooting for Avery's Exes, but I wish I never had to hear Scarlett talk again. I've always been annoyed by fake Southern accents in movies/tv, but hers may be the worst.
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Posted Jan 24, 2013 @ 12:49 AM

I'm really pleased by how the backstory of Rayne/Deacon is being filled in -- that she stood by him through all those rehabs until she got pregnant. And then she basically cut the alcoholic out of her life, which honestly is what I think Juliet should do. I'm not sure why we're supposed to be happy that Juliet is repairing the relationship with a woman who abused her, neglected her, and basically destroyed her emotionally...

also don't believe she would turn on Liam THAT QUICKLY but would have been in a fight with him over his failure to be forthright with her (why wouldn't he have just told her he thinks her new sound is awesome, her label is holding her back and he wants her to talk to his label?)


So what happens now to all the music Liam and Rayna have co-written?

Deacon was pretty freakin awesome in that last scene. I LOVED that. So what will happen when they're on tour and Rayna realizes he and Juliette have slept together or Juliette realizes Deacon and Rayna still have the hots for each other? It's not going to be good for the Rayna-Juliette relationship, that's for sure!


We've been shown that Deacon sleeps around a lot. With him, it's all about the heart, not who's in his bed. And Juliet showing up and being there during his not-quite-a-bender shows a lot about where things are going. Plus, both of them are at about the same emotional age. (Although Rayna did pull quite the toddler tantrum tonight)
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Posted Jan 24, 2013 @ 12:50 AM

Yes! Terrific episode from "Where's my bean dip?!" all the way through Deacon's shades after he gets on the plane. No heroes, no villains, just tremendously flawed and very human individuals muddling their way through. Juliette and Deacon are good for each other in ways that Deacon and Rayna are not; too much water under that bridge. And I don't read Scarlett as at all the one-dimensional Goody Two Shoes others seem to see. From the pilot episode on, she has been shown as incredibly jealous of the female attention showered on Avery; jealous of the Haley-Gunnar relationship; very self-absorbed; and now hell-bent on bringing Avery down. She takes great delight in attracting male attention and then pretending to be offended by it. And now there's Teddy, convinced Rayna is about to two-time him with Deacon, when Deacon has been two-timing Rayna with Juliette. Yes! More, please.
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Posted Jan 24, 2013 @ 1:33 AM

I finally figured it out. It's been bothering me since the show began why I can't bring myself to like the character of Rayna. It's that she's a mom with daughters of her own & supposedly mature & seems to be considered a good person by all around, but she's a mean girl to Juliette, a girl who could be her daughter. I understand not loving Juliette & being frustrated with her behavior, but she seems to enjoy not liking her & making remarks about her. It's the exact opposite of what I would like to see in a grown up, responsible person. I would think with a dad who, according to her, was distructive in her childhood she would have some understanding of the distructiveness of Juliette's mom. I'm moving from not being able to like to active dislike.

I had a mini-daydream about Scarlett getting caught with Gunnar's brother & hauled off to jail. I have a lot of those flashes of make-believe misery for the breathless blonde whenever I'm FF'ing her scenes.

Were my eyes deceiving me or did Avery's banner still say "The Band" on it? No time to get it changed? Mr. Atlanta said no? The prop folks forgot?
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Posted Jan 24, 2013 @ 3:34 AM

Were my eyes deceiving me or did Avery's banner still say "The Band" on it? No time to get it changed? Mr. Atlanta said no? The prop folks forgot?

I also saw that. I was thinking, "They couldn't literally cut "Band" off the bottom of "Avery Barkley(?) Band" banner?"

Scarlett's singing voice still makes my ears bleed.

"Avery's exes?" Stop going to see him play if you hate him so much. It's really that easy.
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Posted Jan 24, 2013 @ 3:52 AM

I kind of wish the entire show could just be Rayna, Juliette and Liam on a plane. Like a roadtrip movie.

I worry about where they're going to be able to go with the Avery character. I get that he's the cautionary tale of everything that's wrong with the music industry, and he will peak then crash then end up an addict (because this show loves it some addiction). But they've already made him such an irredeemable dick, I don't really know what they can do with him after that. They can't put him back together with Scarlett. Maybe... Juliette? He needs to have some connection to at least one other main character, or he'll just become some jack-ass than no one - on the show or watching at home - will care about.
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Posted Jan 24, 2013 @ 3:56 AM

The conversation between Rayna & Deacon was interesting. I don't think he knows that she was pregnant with his daughter. The way he said (paraphrasing) "I was in rehab & I heard you were getting married" without ever mentioning the pregnancy just doesn't sound like he knows.
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Posted Jan 24, 2013 @ 7:14 AM

I found Rayna tremendously annoying this episode. Nothing was really added to her character since the Mean Golden Girl of the first episodes. That's I'm glad Liam is gone, he seemed to feed the most entitled and condescending corners of her personality. Also, Juliette was right to be annoyed: they were getting unprofessional and violating the initial agreement - plus, they were in her plane. She wasn't the stepsister in that arrangement and their behavior towards her was worse than her refusal to get off the stage last episode, and that was punished and derided. If Rayna's entire life blows up due to the Deacon thing, I will enjoy watching every bit of it.

While a Juliette/Avery hookup would make sense in terms of writing, I don't think it would work in-show. His desperate ambition and willingness to fuck his way into the industry would be a red flag for her. I think he will just stay connected to the Scarlet-Gunner subplot. They could tie it in with Deacon again, since they bothered to make Scarlet his niece without really using it for the plot.
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Posted Jan 24, 2013 @ 7:51 AM

I really liked that brief moment of Avery finding his song on the radio, and his glee and innocent joy in that one moment.


It reminded me of the scene in That Thing You Do when Liv Tyler and the other guys in the band hear their song on the radio for the first time and they're running around screaming, celebrating together. Contrast that with Avery getting excited but having no one to share that moment with.

Something that really solidified to me this week was how Juliette and Rayna have such different energies. Rayna is loved and lovable, expects and receives everyone's adoration. She kind of lives life on a golden cloud. Juliette is such thinly veiled desperation, with a real loser's mentality most of the time. Juliette feeling isolated on stage, and Rayna more laughing about Juliette's mom being in rehab- you could see these two in high school, Rayna the mean girl and Juliette the angry misfit.

This description reminded me of Serena and Blair on Gossip Girl (without the BFF part, of course). There are definitely differences though. I think Rayna gets respect and admiration from people because she has earned it by working her ass off for years. Juliette craves that but just expects people to give it to her right away (similar to the way that Avery thought he could just walk up to Juliette because they're both artists).

For what it's worth, I didn't think Rayna was laughing about Juliette's mother being in rehab but rather that Juliette made a big to-do about how they were flying back to Nashville for the party when her secret reason was her mom's court date. I'm not saying that she needed to confide in Rayna about her mom's court date, but it seemed to me it was more that Juliette wanted people to think she was playing nice with the record label and doing a dog and pony show when the truth was that she was going to sneak off to her mom's hearing.

The entire on stage performance of her with Liam was kind of crossing into "they're having an affair" line. I can see why Teddy asked her what was going on. Liam's you can't walk away from me, the look he gave when Teddy showed up at the party. The way Rayna was all over him on stage made it look to me that they were more than just musical partners.

I didn't see that at all, but maybe it's because I'm biased from knowing musicians, dancers, and other performers. You can have great onstage chemistry and be physically close, but that often means nothing once you're off the stage. Sugarland is a good example: Jennifer Nettles and Kristian Bush often lean on each other and make physical contact while performing together but they're both married to other people.

I am so glad all the campaign/election stuff is over. I enjoyed having NONE of that in this episode. I didn't miss Rayna's father or sister either.

I don't know why they bothered making that huge banner for Avery without consulting with him first, especially now that they know he's solo. That banner was a waste of money.

I love seeing Avery's Exes play together. It seems like it's a good cathartic thing for them to do, even if it's just for fun. I don't blame Scarlett and the other band guy for sneaking over to see Avery's show. It's like looking up your ex on Facebook just to see what they're up to while you secretly hope for the worst. I want to like Gunnar, but he can be such a dick. No need to get so jealous/upset about Scarlett going to Avery's show, dude. She's not your girlfriend, remember? Quit being such a control freak! Glad he got his Gibson back though.
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Posted Jan 24, 2013 @ 7:58 AM

Loved Deacon running for the plane and joining Juliette. He was badass putting on those glasses and not caring what Rayna's reaction was.


I also thought he was a bad-ass throwing on the glasses, but I think he cared very, very much about what Rayna's reaction was. I think that show was very much for her.

Shall be interesting to see what happens going forward.

Edited by pennben, Jan 24, 2013 @ 8:02 AM.

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Posted Jan 24, 2013 @ 8:24 AM

I don't blame Scarlett and the other band guy for sneaking over to see Avery's show. It's like looking up your ex on Facebook just to see what they're up to while you secretly hope for the worst.


Hee, that is such an accurate description of that scene, it made me laugh.

I kind of really want Avery to fail even harder now. Hopefully he will be a one-hit-wonder. What was he thinking talking to Juliette? I'm starting to think his agent really does want the best for him (besides the sleeping with her thing) and is doing what she can.

Cannot wait to see Deacon on tour with Rayna and Juliette. I hope they drag this out for multiple episodes, there's so much ammunition with that storyline. I'm in for whatever dramatic stuff they come up with as long as it's not Deacon falling off the wagon - not here for that at all.
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Posted Jan 24, 2013 @ 8:29 AM

Hmmmm ... it hit me that Rayna and Juliette are mirror images in one respect:

Rayna feels fundamentally that she can't really trust/depend on anyone but herself, and Juliette's scared shitless to have anyone trust/depend on her.....
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Posted Jan 24, 2013 @ 9:03 AM

One of the things I do like about this show is that pretty much everyone is flawed (except Scarlett but I just pretend she is a muppet-so she doesn't count).

Hee, gik910, thank you for my Thursday-morning laugh! This is the best description of Scarlett ever.

For what it's worth, I didn't think Rayna was laughing about Juliette's mother being in rehab but rather that Juliette made a big to-do about how they were flying back to Nashville for the party when her secret reason was her mom's court date. I'm not saying that she needed to confide in Rayna about her mom's court date, but it seemed to me it was more that Juliette wanted people to think she was playing nice with the record label and doing a dog and pony show when the truth was that she was going to sneak off to her mom's hearing.


I felt the same way, ElectricBoogalo. Rayna has her faults, but with her being a mom and the former girlfriend of an addict, I just don't see her being cruel over something like that.

I agree with everyone who felt that this was the best episode yet. The lack of politics was such a relief, and Teddy came close to making me like him tonight. I've always liked Eric Close, and couldn't figure out why I haven't liked him in this show so far, but last night that problem finally went away. That look on his face when he saw Deacon in the airport was just devastating. The muscles in his face barely moved, yet he showed so much in his expression.

And I may have shed a tear along with Juliette when she and her mother were talking. Hayden Panettiere hits it out of the park every week, no matter what she's called on to do.

Last, a quick dip into the shallow end of the pool. Deacon in those shades? YOW. The man is hot. Although I like the younger guys on this show, he blows them out of the water precisely because he is a man, not a boy. He's been my favorite character since the first show.

I can't wait for the next episode!
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Posted Jan 24, 2013 @ 9:03 AM

It reminded me of the scene in That Thing You Do when Liv Tyler and the other guys in the band hear their song on the radio for the first time and they're running around screaming, celebrating together. Contrast that with Avery getting excited but having no one to share that moment with.


Hopefully they can expand on Avery's character and show us why he is the way he is. I felt sorry for him that he's having this big radio moment and then there's no one there to share it with. He'll probably get success and find it a very cold mistress. But I want to know more about him and his endless ambition. What drives Avery? I don't think he's a dick. And I have to admit, I get school girl weak in the knees when he swings that hair around and smiles. I could drown in his eyes.

I like Rayna and Juliette. I think Rayna does push the envelope a bit with Juliette. Good manners, which every good Southern girl is born with, would include a thanks for the ride and not eating other people's food unless invited. Of course, Liam has no manners at all, and he appears to be the bean dip thief.

I think Rayna was upset because Liam was getting a cut of the profits if she signed with the other label. It wasn't very clear but it looks like he's moving her away from EdgeHill for his own profit, which upset her greatly.

Glad to see Juliette open up more. I get her angst with her mom. She wants that love and support, but she knows that addict that lives within her mom and it's easier to not get involved or to get too invested for the next round of addiction.

Great show!
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Posted Jan 24, 2013 @ 9:43 AM

I felt the same way, ElectricBoogalo. Rayna has her faults, but with her being a mom and the former girlfriend of an addict, I just don't see her being cruel over something like that.


Except that she was, a comment was made about Juliette's mothers hearing and Rayna snickered with her side kick Liam and showed no caring at all. For Rayna to be someone who dealt with an addict and is a mother herself of a pre-teen, heck for someone that is getting a free ride on that person's plane laughing about a hearing of an addict was tacky.

She doesn't act very motherly or good at all while away from her children. She has the Mean Girl routine with Juliette that considering she has a kid about to be in highshool, I don't see how Rayna can behave that way when her own child could be treated the same way.

I didn't see that at all, but maybe it's because I'm biased from knowing musicians, dancers, and other performers. You can have great onstage chemistry and be physically close, but that often means nothing once you're off the stage. Sugarland is a good example: Jennifer Nettles and Kristian Bush often lean on each other and make physical contact while performing together but they're both married to other people.


Teddy, her own husband say the lines being crossed and that there was more too it. They also showed Liam's reaction to Teddy along with his comments about how Rayna can't leave him. There was far more than onstage chemistry going on there that meant nothing off stage. There was lots going on off stage as well as on, a mother of a 12 year old running her hands through the hair of "my partner" while estranged from her husband, sleeping in the guest room and being on tour to avoid her husband?

Teddy saw it, Juliette saw it. If Deacon was there he'd see it and the viewers through them see the lines blurred between Rayna and Liam.

Edited by Artsda, Jan 24, 2013 @ 9:46 AM.

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Posted Jan 24, 2013 @ 9:44 AM

Was totally taken off guard by Angry! Deacon - and CE did a great job at showing him as an addict fighting the calling and the collective bitter pill it has been to be around Rayna all these years since he still loved her. I thought he was a bit harsh with Juliette about how she addressed the court at her Mom's hearing. I imagine that growing up with MethMom was not an easy thing and to profess her belief that this time the rehab would work would be stating things too strongly. He probably isn't and hasn't been in a place to appreciate that, but him whipping on those shades in the plane erased all Deacon criticism from my little mind. Smoke alarms should have gone off around him.

Juliette going over to Deacon's raised her stock in my book. I thought she handled that great. Her tearing up when she talked to her Mom at the end was just amazing.

Rayna and Liam on stage were all kinds of wonderful. I could have used a slower burner on them revealing he had a vested interest for getting her to change over from Edgehill, but that is because I am shallow and I like him on my tv.

Ming Na Wen still looks amazing. I have little expectation she'll be on much since her label is not in Nashville.
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Posted Jan 24, 2013 @ 9:55 AM

And exactly how is Deacon going to feel when he finds out Little Miss Perfect HID HIS DAUGHTER FROM HIM? He has her up on a pedestal and pines for her and she keeps him on a leash throwing him enough his way to keep his interest. She also has a husband Mr Stable she keeps pretty much in the same way. Just enough love and the HOPE of affection to keep them both on a leash while out their hip hopping around with the new stud (Liam).

Sorry but I find Juliette more honest. I don't particularly like either. And I am tired of Avery being scalded as a jerk when Gunnar has been nastier to Scarlett on more occasions than Avery. I see her and Gunnar and literally FF.
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