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Posted Jan 10, 2013 @ 10:29 PM

Bailey puts her wedding day on hold and continues her efforts to save Adele's life, Cristina and Owen remain undecided about their pending divorce, while Arizona and Callie try to get their spark back. Meanwhile, the hospital becomes inundated with a group of bikers after a horrible accident.


Best death ever! I was spoilt, and I still got sucker-punched.

Derek's face when Callie called him was priceless. She really misses Mark I guess.

Attending/Intern sexcapades? Snore

Thank god that Callie and Arizoba actually talked! Same for Cristina and Owen. Finally!!!

Hey! Bailey's dad!

Overall, I liked this episode.
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Posted Jan 10, 2013 @ 10:38 PM

I was kinda bored. Not really a wow episode to come back.

Color me shocked: Bailey did get married. Oh well.

Derek and Callie were priceless. Derek's face when Callie told him she was having sex? Best ever.

Cute MerDer scene. Back to semi-bookends.

Still don't give two shits about the interns. I still strongly dislike Jo but glad that the ending scene between Jo and Alex was just messing the room up.

Richard's last scene while watching Bailey and Ben was truly heartbreaking. Adele will be missed.

Go away April.
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Posted Jan 10, 2013 @ 10:40 PM

I didn't feel anything about Adele until the end when they played My Funny Valentine. I sort of felt the episode was a little too cheesy, but there was a lot of progress so I liked it.
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Posted Jan 10, 2013 @ 10:42 PM

I was surprised that the wedding actually happened.

It was so sad that Adele came through the difficult surgery, only to later die. I'm glad that she knew who Dr. Webber was, since she called him Richard. Hopefully he will remember that she remembered him and take some comfort from that.
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Posted Jan 10, 2013 @ 10:50 PM

It was boring, didn't care that Bailey married. Didn't care that Adele died. It dragged & waaaay too much interns.
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Posted Jan 10, 2013 @ 10:58 PM

It was a good episode. I liked everything expect anything that involved an intern. Poor Alex saddled with Jo.

Edited by harkiv, Jan 10, 2013 @ 10:58 PM.

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Posted Jan 10, 2013 @ 11:25 PM

Did like the line, "I'm a homeowner now."

Can't believe there haven't been any scenes of Cristina with Alex in their place.

James Pickens hit out of the park. Loved it. It brought a tear to my eye.
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Posted Jan 10, 2013 @ 11:48 PM

James Pickens hit out of the park. Loved it. It brought a tear to my eye.


For the sad stuff, totally with you. For the anger scene early on, with the facility director, not so much. I wasn't really buying it there. But since the sad part was the big part, I can live with it.
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Posted Jan 10, 2013 @ 11:55 PM

This episode was so aimless and without a focus. Almost all of it was pointless and stupid. That biker gang thing was so out of place and clumsy. Let's not even get into the fact that almost all biker gangs are basically white supremacists with absolutely no female membership, let alone leaders. The fakery of this group of people being 1%-ers was so annoying. Since they didn't pipe in the "whacky" music, I am still unclear as to whether or not their "menacing" behavior was meant to be comic relief or if it was serious. If Owen took them seriously, he should have called the cops, not let avowed violent felons roam about the hospital. And, I don't even know what to make of him taking life lessons from one of those silly meatheads or having life altering "epiphanies" because of a terribly trite and cliched exchange he had with him. That was so fucking stupid.

Once again, the interns managed to do nothing more than highlight how inane they and their stories are. Smash and Kepner were a huge waste of time and space. I don't even know what they were going for between Alex and Jo. I hate that this child, and she is a child, is going to be Alex's love interest or student. The actress and character suck. Those two have no chemistry and she is so annoying. I don't for a minute believe Avery would be so hard up as to sleep with an intern and that thing in the OR with her was so bad. It wasn't sexy, cute, or charming. It was just...bad.

The beginning of the episode with Owen and Cristina showed the primary disfunction of their relationship: the only thing they've ever had to build upon is their strong sexual attraction to one another. Their response to any problem between them is to rip each other's clothes off. They scream at each other, they don't speak, one of them says something slightly conciliatory and then the other silences him/her with a kiss. Owen and Cristina never had any sort of "beautiful thing." They were never on the same page in life, he wanted to change her, he expected her to "grow up" to want what he wanted, and they got engaged and married when she was in the throes of crippling PTSD. He was right to say that they should never have gotten married, but obviously didn't get why they should never have married. Being married only brought out the fact that they were incompatible. It is one thing when the person you're dating says s/he doesn't want kids or to ignore the petty sniping, but once it is your husband or wife doing it, the untenability of that situation becomes very clear because you're supposed to be with your husband or wife forever. That's what they so-called "lost" by getting married: the ability to remain in denial about their reality.

I am glad that Callie and Arizona talked. I was sort of sad that Callie basically said she wouldn't leave Arizona not because she loves her and can't live without her, but because she owes Arizona for sticking by her after the car accident. I don't know if that is what they were aiming for, but that's what I took away from it. It was good to see them actually have a conversation. I would have liked to see more of a conversation than, say, Jo's comedy routine or Smash thinking April wants to have sex with him. Good work on the parts of SR and JC because I could actually feel their discomfort. It really came through the screen and I actually had to look away because the awkwardness and tension between them was that thick. Good job.

I'm glad that Bailey got married, but it was yet another moment of happiness on the show that didn't feel "earned." There was no compelling reason for them to marry other than the fact that Ben wanted this wedding. I get that this is allegedly Bailey's happiness, but I can't feel happy about a wedding and a marriage that's been painted as being something she doesn't want and something she was bullied into. Almost all the marriages/weddings on this show have had a "hostage" or emotional blackmailing element to them, so why shouldn't this one? The wedding felt like one huge plot device or a reason to take up two episodes.

This episode could have been about marriage and being married. There are four married couples in this episode and the story of why Bailey's wedding should be, since it was going to be told, could have been told through them. It could have taken a look at Richard and the guilt he was feeling for leaving behind his wife who, due to no fault of her own, had essentially left him behind because of her disease. The beginning with Richard was fascinating and it would have been interesting to see him wrestle with that at her bedside. It could have also focused on Meredith and Derek being at this hopeful and precarious stage of theirs. It could have focused on Callie and Arizona making huge adjustments to their lives as a married couple. And it could have focused on Owen and Cristina choosing to dissolve their marriage. This episode could have focused on the four married couples and the impending marriage of Bailey. Instead, we got this messy, unfocused, and meandering episode with the interns serving as little more than distractions.
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Posted Jan 11, 2013 @ 12:28 AM

I don't believe for a second that Alex would just casually talk about his abusive childhood with some annoying intern that he's only known for a few months, especially the horrible things he shared. I love that he's getting screen time, but I resent the fact that he's shared more about his past with this little girl than with Izzie who he was with for long time. This pairing is not working and I want so much better for Alex.

Cristina and Owen are gross. I realized that even when Owen is just walking down the hallway not doing anything or talking to anyone I'm still annoyed by him. Please take a swan-dive into a bottomless pit, and take Jo and April with you.
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Posted Jan 11, 2013 @ 12:40 AM

I hate hate hate Jackson!!!! Ugh...April is acting no better but I hate hate hate him for doing the moony eyes and sleeping with Stephanie...UGH!

I have the urge to stomp up and down like a tantrumy toddler and that is not a good look for me!
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Posted Jan 11, 2013 @ 1:30 AM

They are being SO heavy-handed with Alex and Jo. I want Alex to be happy and in love and all, but Jo is becoming more and more unappealing with every passing episode.

The end with Richard and Adele was especially heartbreaking. Loretta Devine is a class act and JPJ was fantastic tonight.
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Posted Jan 11, 2013 @ 3:10 AM

This show is so flat now.

Everything is so blah.

Dear Cristina and Owen sex doesn't equal love and I no longer give a crap about your millions of problems.

Merder your just boring now, even the baby stuff is boring.

Can't believe i'm saying this but Scandal is the better show right now.


Person of Interest and Scandal Thursday till this show improves the writing.
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Posted Jan 11, 2013 @ 3:55 AM

I loved this episode; my fave of the year. The last half did feel rushed, though.

Disliked:

The wasting Tina Majorino: It sucks. Enough said.

The bikers:Everyone should've worked on Adele. There had to have been a way to create a convo between Richard and Owen that would've facilitated the same realization for Owen.

Cristina/Owen.The writers seem lost with these two. Either they are toxic or they are MFEO. They can't be both. Yes, SO/KMcK have awesome chemistry. But it's not enough.

I wonder if the show wants to make them the new Mallie? If so, they should just stop. They can't become Callie and Mark. Because although the basis of Mallie was sex, they were friends, too. Crowen do not have that. They have really, really hot sex, and not much else. And too much has happened for them to be friends with benefits. It is too late for that.

Also, as much as I like KMcK., I don't find him particularly convincing in the emotional scenes. I just was NOT feeling him in the scene where they signed the divorce papers. If the show needs to cut someone at the end of the year, my vote is for Owen. He's been written into a corner.

What I did like:

The Interns - The work scenes were dull, but their personal moments were great. Jackson/Stephanie could work. While I like Japril, I'm not super invested in them. I still don't care if Jackson stays on the show, frankly. I do like April and I'd miss Sarah Drew. I love April as Shane's mentor. I vote no to a romance, though.

Jo and Alex are growing on me. Suddenly she doesn't just seem like Izzie2. She's got a wee bit more spunk than Izzie. Mind you, I like Luddington and I disliked Heigl, so YMMV. The writing was admittedly weak, but the actors were so relaxed and seemed to be having so much fun that I got past that. Yay for smiling Alex! I suppose I also loved them just because I was so thrilled that it was them that scammed the hotel room and not Calzona. ;)

The Adele story: I forgot how wonderful JPJ is. I loved everything he did tonight. He made me like Leah! He showed us that Richard was being clinical like that so as not to completely fall apart. Thank you Grey's for that final scene of them in the hospital, and that dance. My heart was in my throat. I don't tend to cry anymore when I watch Grey's; the big moments just make me audibly go, 'Oooh!' That was one that really got me, as did his moments with Bailey and Meredith back at the reception. Love that Mer knew and Bailey was so focussed on Ben that she missed it. Heartbreaking. I will always ship Richard/Meredith as father/daughter and Bailey/Richard as friends.

Ellen Pompeo: She had the least air time of probably anyone, and yet she did really good work. I actually loved that bit between Meredith and Derek. I got why she was scared... that was very realistic, imo. Even the v/o had more energy that it sometimes does.

Bailey/Ben:I didn't think the wedding would happen and I didn't care at first. But they got me in that corridor scene. Another "Oh!" moment for me. I remembered why Ben is so right for her. I absolutely felt like Bailey earned that happiness. And loved her spunk back at the reception with Callie/Arizona. The writers seemed to have lost Bailey's voice for a while but I think/hope they have found it again.

Callie/Arizona:

I was sort of sad that Callie basically said she wouldn't leave Arizona not because she loves her and can't live without her, but because she owes Arizona for sticking by her after the car accident


I totally saw it differently. Callie isn't one to stay with someone out of duty; she's not that unselfish. At the very least, if that was the only reason she was staying, she'd have cheated by now. And I say that as someone who loves her - I am just not immune to her faults. Girlfriend can be self centred and shallow.

What I saw in Ms. Ramirez's performance was a woman who has matured and now understands that love and marriage isn't about the fun, easy moments. That she had to show that she's in this with ARIZONA, and not in love with being in love. A flowery I love you speech was NOT going to reassure her wife at that moment. What AZ needed was for her wife to be able to articulate that she gets that they may not be through all the crap yet, and that she can handle it. Too often, people will say, "I know how you feel," when in reality they don't have a clue. By talking about the accident, Callie was showing Arizona that she gets it... she remembers what it was like to not be able to hold her baby. To not even be able to control her body enough to give Yang the finger! And that, esp. coupled with the ordering champagne and the 'jr high makeout session' was more reassuring to Arizona than any flowery speech ever could be. Any idiot can speak the words I love you. But love isn't just a feeling; it's a behaviour.

I have been watching Callie since Season 2 - SaRa was the reason I started tuning into Grey's. Season 2/3 Callie would NOT have had the depth or maturity to handle AZ not being ready. She'd have headed back to the hospital, probably after being an insensitive jerk and saying something hurtful. Sara Ramirez played it perfectly... from the second they stepped into that room, you knew that Callie knew it wasn't really going to happen. But she also knew that it had to be Arizona who admitted she wasn't ready, because any other way of handling it would've made Arizona feel rejected. The calling Derek bit was adorable; vintage Callie processing things out loud.

The night's 3 stars (forgive me, I'm an NHL hockey fan): Capshaw/Pickens/Ramirez - YMMV re: the order
Honourable mentions: Pompeo and Wilson.

Edited by cycworker, Jan 11, 2013 @ 4:01 AM.

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Posted Jan 11, 2013 @ 5:09 AM

Awwwwwww, Adele! And poor Richard. I hope that now he can find some peace (and some guilt-free happiness with Avery's mom) but I think he will always carry that guilt/blame for her death.

This show definitely has its faults, but one thing I like is that they show relationships in different stages of their development. Many shows focus on the chase and then the couple gets together so they find reasons to break them up, be angsty, get back together, etc. so the relationships often stay in the early stages. It's been interesting to see the later stages of long term relationships like Richard and Adele and Meredith and Derek. Obviously the writers still keep throwing monkey wrenches into their relationships when they can, but it's nice to see people who have actually been together for more than a few months or (gasp) a few whole years.

My friend's mother has Alzheimer's and it's been really difficult for the whole family. They finally put her in an assisted living facility last year and they too have had to deal with relying upon what the caregivers there tell them, so I can understand Richard's position. He wanted to do what was best for Adele, so he listened to them and stayed away, not wanting to agitate her, assuming that they knew what was best.

Nice to see both Callie and Arizona making an effort and taking baby steps forward. As noted by a previous poster, they actually had a mature rational conversation about their relationship. More of that from everyone, please!

Frankie5Angels, I started quoting your post and then realized I was quoting so much that I should just do the shorter version and say WORD. I hate the way Cristina and Owen have been painted as this OTP when it's really a toxic relationship based on sex and trauma. If you want to spend the rest of your lives fighting and fucking but never resolving anything, I suppose that's your choice but I really don't want to have to watch it. They're two damaged people who each thought they could save the other person, which is not a great basis for a healthy relationship. Hopefully now that they're divorced, we can be rid of their angst.
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Posted Jan 11, 2013 @ 7:00 AM

Hopefully now that they're divorced, we can be rid of their angst.

Why? what marriage has to do with with their angst?
I don't know if it's me the confused part or the writers! The box is not the marriage, the box is this toxic unsound relationship. If they stay in this relationship they stay in the box, independently if they divorce each other or not.
A marriage is solvable if the relationship is solvable.

Also, as much as I like KMcK., I don't find him particularly convincing in the emotional scenes. I just was NOT feeling him in the scene where they signed the divorce papers. If the show needs to cut someone at the end of the year, my vote is for Owen. He's been written into a corner


I for one found him particularly convincing.I though it was excellently acted. What is not convincing is the character. And this sometimes is easy to confuse. That persistence on presenting the Mccheater as a honorable character and then as a misogynist surd pig and then again as Mr. charming sweet-talk, wrecked the character and in my opinion Cristina's life.
I feel sad if KMK leaves because I sincerely think he's a powerful actor and was an important piece of the show before this debacle have outworn his character, but I agree that he's been written into a corner. They could have done the abortion/cheating storyline but in another way. They made the characters implode and with this the couple exploding. Though the writers say the couple is being directed toward an end, like others above, I think they are unguided or misguided or whatever the word is...


I found rather amusing that in the end Bailey hadn't no food, no 'dames of honor' and almost no groom. What a Wedding!

Arizona sad but understandable.

So sad the end of line to Webber and Adele. Very painful.

Enough is enough of the interns. The thing is starting to get serious because this episode not only reinforced the lack of chemistry between the crybaby and Alex but that the actress is dragging Justin down with this acting. they were the worst part of the episode when before where was Alex were some of my favorite scenes. I can't believe that I'm gonna loose him too!

The episode was a little confusing. Many important stories competing with each other. Little time for so much.

Edited by Nanda, Jan 11, 2013 @ 7:03 AM.

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Posted Jan 11, 2013 @ 7:59 AM

I'm so exhausted and afraid to hope any longer for Owen/Cristina. It's been such a ride but I never feel like sticking it out if there isn't any light on the horizon.

I feel bad for April as well. I'd have said that she had her chance and blew it but maybe she thought that Jackson just falls for girls easily. Lexie, then her and now his wild attraction to Stephanie. Hard to take someone like that seriously as a man (as opposed to best friend and also, wasn't Reid her best friend). Didn't he have a one-night stand with the girl his mother set him up with at the conference too?

I love you Karev but you can do so much better than this.
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Posted Jan 11, 2013 @ 9:36 AM

Why is Tina Majorino even on this show at this point? Why is she the only intern to not have a storyline (following Mer around with a wheelchair doesn't count)? She's such a good actress and it makes me so sad that she's been featured the least out of all of the interns so far.

Also, I still can't buy Bailey/Ben. There is ZERO sexual chemistry there and she looks way older than him. It's so distracting. I like the relationship in that I think Ben as a character is a great match for her, but I wish he were played by someone else (although I think he's the hottest guy on the show right now, so maybe not...)

Alex deserves WAY better than the intern. Can't even remember her name. She's annoying and immature and like someone mentioned above, it bothers me that he'd open up so fast to her--it was pretty out of character. Really, I dislike the intern plotlines overall. I like the guy (seriously can't remember ANY of their names!) but his storyline in this episode was kind of dumb (although, kudos to him for being the ONE person at SG to not want to sleep with a coworker). Stephanie was okay, but I didn't buy Jackson being wildly attracted to her, and she's also kind of annoying. And the last one is a total non-entity to me. I wish they'd cut them out completely--I don't like that so much time is wasted on them. I'd rather see MerDer interaction that intern drama.
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Posted Jan 11, 2013 @ 10:21 AM

Hopefully now that they're divorced, we can be rid of their angst.

Why? what marriage has to do with with their angst?
I don't know if it's me the confused part or the writers! The box is not the marriage, the box is this toxic unsound relationship. If they stay in this relationship they stay in the box, independently if they divorce each other or not.
A marriage is solvable if the relationship is solvable.

I agree that the box is their relationship. I'm hoping that now that they have acknowledged that it was a mistake and signed the divorce papers, they will end their relationship completely (aside from their obvious professional relationship) and hence free the audience from their angst. I know, not likely, but a girl can dream!
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Posted Jan 11, 2013 @ 10:34 AM

I feel bad for April as well. I'd have said that she had her chance and blew it but maybe she thought that Jackson just falls for girls easily. Lexie, then her and now his wild attraction to Stephanie. Hard to take someone like that seriously as a man (as opposed to best friend and also, wasn't Reid her best friend). Didn't he have a one-night stand with the girl his mother set him up with at the conference too?


I'd say that too but I just don't think she *gets* it. And while they are both adults, I put that more on Jackson. What April needs is for things to be laid out in it's simplest terms so there's no confusion and no opportunity for her to come up with her own conclusions. Miscommunication is the worst culprit between Jackson and April and it is so frustrating. Jackson's passivity is really irratating.

My husband (the bigger GA fan) commeneted to me he thought the series could go on another few years with just the interns. They hired some well known and good actors to be the interns so it seems plausible that they might be pushed more to the front for when some of the originals eventually leave.

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Posted Jan 11, 2013 @ 10:50 AM

Too much focus on the interns.

25 seconds of Derek and Meredith together is not enough.

So over the intern/attending hookups.

Alex took two steps backward in his supposed grown up phase.

Is Jackson only going to be used to take his shirt off? Can April be any more dense?

I guess now that Owen and Cristina are divorced they will constantly be going at it.

Enjoyed the Bailey/Richard friend/mentor relationship and the Richard/Meredith father/daughter relationship.

RIP Emmy award winner Loretta Devine. Your character will be missed. NOT looking forward to more of the over the top Jackson’s mother if that is whats coming.
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Posted Jan 11, 2013 @ 12:24 PM

Agree that Tina Majorino needs more screentime. Conversely, Jo and Leah? They need less. The biker thing was a bit desperate, maybe the writing team is just surfing TLC for ideas. Doomsday Preppers? Bikers? So fresh! Dibs on a Honey Boo Boo type family showing up eventually.

This ep. did serve to remind me of badass Cristina and her former bike. I originally took the scene with Owen being told about life free of "metal boxes" and how impossible it would be to give that up as acknowledgement that Cristina has, in fact, changed so much of her identity to fit in with him. Nope, it's some tortured metaphor about how labelling their relationship as marriage is the problem. Sure.

Found Alex and Jo's crappy childhood one-ups distasteful and not at all empathy-inducing. If indeed the crying is a tactic, it makes me respect her even less as it's not even effective! To my memory Owen, Mere, and (I think) Arizona all basically told her to suck it up or get out of surgery when she turned on the waterworks. I will say, I found Mere just as annoying when she was weeping in closets and sleeping with/ pining after her boss, so perhaps there is hope.

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Posted Jan 11, 2013 @ 12:24 PM

I'm enjoying the Alex/Jo storyline. Of course I haven't watched the show in years so I'm probably not as hung up on Alex's character being a little inconsistent with sharing his feelings. But I think the actors have pretty good chemistry. Avery and the other intern on the other hand, I don't get at all.
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Posted Jan 11, 2013 @ 12:24 PM

I think after last night, I am officially breaking up with this show. I was never a big fan of Callie and Arizona, I miss McSteamy, HATE Alex and Jo [if he has to be with an intern, why not Tina Majorino? She is much better actress, and different than Alex's traditional "pretty girl" types]; don't give a rat's a$$ about the interns, thought Jackson and the intern in the car was gross, etc. etc. In other words, there was nothing I really liked about last night's show or any of the characters. I think that is clearly a sign that I should stop watching!! Bye Grey's, we had a nice run, but it's not me it's you. :)
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Posted Jan 11, 2013 @ 12:27 PM

Why? what marriage has to do with with their angst?
I don't know if it's me the confused part or the writers! The box is not the marriage, the box is this toxic unsound relationship. If they stay in this relationship they stay in the box, independently if they divorce each other or not.
A marriage is solvable if the relationship is solvable


Word, but the Grey's writers have always seemed confused by that. There's always at least one partner in the relationship being semi bullied into the marriage or a relationship falls apart 3 episodes after the wedding etc. So some of them do seem to think it's the character marriage that's the problem, not the relationship. I doubt the Crowen angst is over for a second, they'll just go back to sex "see our love was in a box and now it's free to have quickies in on call rooms again!"
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Posted Jan 11, 2013 @ 1:09 PM

This episode was all over the place but there were a few moments in the show that made it enjoyable for me to watch overall. The patients usually add to the SLs underlying theme but the bikers added absolutely nothing. And the exchange between the biker and Owen i thought was weak, not enough to aid in a life altering decision at least. I wish i saw less of them and more of the other characters.

Im not really affected by the interns, i don't mind them at all. I don't however, buy the Alex/Jo romance. I didn't feel the chemistry between them at all. I'm glad they didn't kiss or hook-up because it would have definately felt too forced. As badly as i want Alex to be happy and find love, if the chemistry isn't there i just don't want to see it. The writers and actors need to come up with a better sales pitch! Hopefully they will.

The exchange between Callie and Derek, priceless! The look on his face had me cracking up. Poor Callie, if Mark were alive they'd be high 5'ing through the phone right then and there. Gosh i miss that guy.

Callie and Arizona took the cupcake (literally), the bread and the bakery for me! I felt every emotion and the actresses conveyed them beautifully. It was sweet and endearing. I'm so glad they finally talked about it, Callie was so sensitive, supportive and so reassuring, exactly what Arizona needed in that moment. Arizona must have been really afraid of losing Callie to go out of her comfort zone like that for her, they both love each other so much and both need each other. What that hotel room scene said to me is that they are both still all in and would both do anything, anything for each other. Their scenes were very adorable and fun to watch, they are by far my favourite couple on the show.

Ben and Bailey... Had me worried there for a bit. Almost thought the wedding wasn't going to happen but i am glad it did! Those two are perfect for each other and i hope it lasts.

I really felt it for Richard. Great delivery by JPJ. Those final scenes had me in tears. I love that Meredith knew right away.

Can't wait for the next episode.
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Posted Jan 11, 2013 @ 1:33 PM

Poor Chief! This show doesn't move me much anymore, but the end got to me, especially when Meredith came over with tears in her eyes. Lately I find so many of the actors on the show seemingly going through the motions to get in order to get their paycheck, so it was nice to see some real, earned emotion for a change. As someone mentioned above, the history between these characters is the highlight of the show, at least for me, and the show is at its best when the writing reflects and acknowledges it. Also, JPJ is so very handsome. He did a wonderful job. I hope they wait awhile before bringing Avery's mother back. She is a bit much.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: other than sex, what do Owen and Cristina like about each other? Please put me and the characters, and especially me, out of our collective misery and end this never ending angst fest. Please!

I enjoyed the scenes between Callie and AZ and I"m glad that it was AZ who booked the room. Its baby steps, but I am all for things getting back to normal.

Found Alex and Jo's crappy childhood one-ups distasteful and not at all empathy-inducing.


You and me both. I really, really hope that this is the last time their childhood trauma is brought up by either one of them. I spent years longing to know more about Alex's childhood, but every new tidbit is worse than the one before and it is beginning to get a little ridiculous. What's next? His father sold him to a traveling pack of white slaving pirates passing through Iowa? Enough. And if I hear Princess utter the phrases "trust issues" or "street kid" one more time, I am going to call Fagin and have him come collect her. On the plus side, it IS nice to see Alex laugh again (and Princess does have a cute giggle), and I am SO glad that they didn't hook up. Hopefully, now that they know a little more about one another, they can just continue to be friends and take it slow without the over the top sob stories.

I don't know why, but Bailey slow dancing and making googly eyes at Ben just makes me uncomfortable. I'm all for her being well-rounded and happy, but I'll be glad when Ben ships off to wherever he is going and "Mandy" can morph back into Bailey again. There is a lot of ground between "hard-ass Nazi" and "giggly teenage girl" and I want Bailey (or maybe its Chandra Wilson) to find that sweet spot and stay there.

Edited by Deanie87, Jan 11, 2013 @ 1:34 PM.

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WindSprints

WindSprints

    Stalker

Posted Jan 11, 2013 @ 1:42 PM

I liked a lot about this episode. I liked that couples actually talked to one another instead of running around talking to their patients, their soulmate, whoever and never talking to their spouse. The scenes with Callie talking to both Bailey and Derek were funny and enjoyable because the conversations that should also happen did. Bailey talked to Ben. Callie and Arizona had an actual conversation. Meredith went to Derek instead of up Cristina's ass. Cristina went to Owen (it may have gone bust but at least she made some attempt) instead of either saying absolutely nothing or saying 3 words to Meredith. Even if couples aren't my favorite I can at least watch/even enjoy when they aren't acting like 7th graders all the time.

I thought the passing of Adele was nicely done. I was glad Adele recognized Richard at the end and thought the scene with Richard imagining dancing with Adele was beautiful. I think it was obvious that Adele was going but the way it was done was surprising for me. I was waiting for "SHE'S CRASHING!" with Richard being shoved out of the room by Bailey and Meredith as they frantically try to save Adele. The simpler, quieter route was far more emotional for me.

I was glad to see Bailey and Ben actually go through with their wedding ceremony. I was glad to see Bailey find a relationship with someone who can accept her ambitions. We won't see Ben often (and don't really need to) but we at least have one more character somewhat happy; nice change. Personally I never understood why Grey's didn't have some more recurring characters as love interests over the years. A few characters could have had a boyfriend/girlfriend that was around here and there while having scenes about their profession. Would have given them breaks in between their big relationship dramas.

I was glad to see Owen acknowledge that he and Cristina shouldn't have married. He thinking they being boxed in by the expectations of marriage as the problem though will likely bite him in the ass. He and Cristina both need to realize and face the fact that the issue of children is a deal breaker, wish each other well and walk away.

I don't mind the new interns having some scenes. There seems to be less patient storylines since they arrived so the screen time for them is what an extra patient would have been given. Also, most of their time is spent with the characters that have been around for a few seasons. I do like that their presence has been happening on the slower slide and they're at least making the attempt to ease them into the story.

I found Jo a bit much but was OK with her so far this season and didn't even hate her with Alex. They need to drop the whole Hobo, poor, poor Jo stuff now though or she's done for me. I hated Alex being part of breaking into a hotel room. It was stupid and doesn't fit with "I bought a house" Alex. I did like Alex talking about his past himself (instead of a family member telling Meredith) but I wish it had happened years back with Izzie. Or, at least further down the road when there (assuming its a given) a deeper reltaionship between Alex/Jo. Alex offering up so much about himself to someone he barely knows just didn't fit for me.

I was disappointed there was no scene with Derek and Lizzie. I figured she'd end up with mostly Meredith and she did but I was still hoping for at least a goodbye scene. Instead I guess it was rip out the nerve and kick her into a cab back to the airport.
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#29

TheresaW1934

TheresaW1934

    Channel Surfer

Posted Jan 11, 2013 @ 4:40 PM

Quick question - was that Loretta singing funny valentine at the end?

Overall - I enjoyed this episode. It seems the interns/residents are going to be around for awhile. I do wish we'd see more of them via medical scenes at the hospital. Tired of the hook-ups - but it is Grey's which is sex, blood and well sex. ;)

Best:
James P
Sara R
Jessica C
Chandra W

James made you feel Webber in every scene - even when he was over the top angry at the nursing home guy - cause you knew he was angry/disappointed in himself.

Sara and Jessica - you played off each other very well. You weren't over the top and made the nervousness, awkwardness, excitement, insecurity - well everything come off as sincere and genuine to your characters. Mostly you made me believe you were in love with each other, cared about each other and were relieved to find out that you each were still in and wanted to be together.

Chandra made me see the old Bailey sprinkled with a dash of the new Bailey. Loved her candor/worry with Ben, her utter delight at the wedding and her calling out the disappearing brides maids.

Needs some work:
Justin
Camilla

Mostly because I saw them acting instead of becoming their characters. Alex seemed OOC to me as I just couldn't see him sharing what he did with Jo - especially since it took him forever to open up to Meredith and in some ways his mentor Arizona.

Jo felt over the top at the bar scene.

I think they're trying too hard and it shows. Perhaps that's why it feels forced to me as they're trying to make it seem seamless and it's not. The dialog and scenes felt contrived.

If they are to be in a relationship. It needs to grow slowly,naturally, organically. Through genuine real moments. Not mashed together like tonight.

Ah well, I'm probably being too cynical, as this is one episode I will definitely watch again.

Edited by TheresaW1934, Jan 11, 2013 @ 6:07 PM.

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#30

Paxis

Paxis

    Channel Surfer

Posted Jan 11, 2013 @ 4:52 PM

Cristina & Owen: She still wants to be the best but she also doesn’t want to be alone. He realized maybe the reason he wants children is because that’s what married couples do. So they’re getting out of their respective boxes. I’m really excited to see them get to know each other without one or the other suffering from PTSD.

Richard and Adele: I knew this was coming but it was still so sad. OT: Richard looked incredibly debonair in his tux!

Richard and Leah: Weird. Still, Richard staying calm by explaining what was happening to Leah showed what an experienced surgeon he is.

Richard and Meredith: So glad he wasn’t completely alone at the end there.

Bailey and Ben: YAY the wedding took place! And little Tuck! So cute!!

Callie and Arizona: they were so awkward while they’re trying to make something happen but then it was alright when they finally relaxed and just let things happen naturally.

Avery and Stephanie: Not sure why, but they’re the most believable of the resident-intern pairings.

Alex and Jo: No. Alex has been paired with people who needed to be cared for. When is he going to be paired with someone who can take care of themselves and still want him? Also, it would help if she doesn’t look like she’s always pouting and on the edge of crying all the time.

April and Shane: If Avery & Stephanie are the sexy couple and Alex and Jo are the dramatic couple, then I guess April and Shane are the non-intimate comedy couple…I like!

Bailey and Meredith operating on Adele: Weird. What happened to the cardio surgeons? Why wasn’t Russell paged? or Cristina who had very recently operated on the “biggest aneurysm”?

Meredith and Derek, Meredith and Cristina: Not much this episode, but hopefully more next episode.

Edited by Paxis, Jan 11, 2013 @ 4:55 PM.

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