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Posted Jan 8, 2013 @ 11:02 PM

Raylan finds evidence his family is at the center of a legendary unsolved mystery while running down a vicious fugitive.

Constable Bob has a bad case of Raylan-envy. If he hangs around him long enough, he should get over that.
Damn, Arlo ain't quite as feeble as he looks.
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Posted Jan 8, 2013 @ 11:09 PM

Damn, I thought that was a really good start to the season.
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Posted Jan 8, 2013 @ 11:10 PM

So nice to have Justified back.

I thought the early part of this episode was a little incoherent but I got hooked by the end of it. Really good episode. Of course, Raylan runs into another kooky fugitive. I rather liked the interaction between the two of them. Looks like Raylan is getting a little side action too (money on the side I mean)...I don't know if I'm disappointed by that or not. I'm glad to see Arlo will still be involved in the action.

The flashback was interesting...very Breaking Bad-like.

Enjoyed Boyd's storyline a lot too and I have to say I was howling with his reaction to what his old army buddy did. I liked Patton Oswalt's character too.

Only downside...no Art. Bah!

Edited by benteen, Jan 8, 2013 @ 11:11 PM.

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Posted Jan 8, 2013 @ 11:10 PM

We're back and hitting the ground running. The dialogue on this show is fucking amazing.

"You have got to mutter quieter, I heard that." "That was the point."

"You run into an asshole in the morning, you ran into an asshole. You run into assholes all day, you're the asshole

Hope they give Rachel and Tim more airtime this season. Constable Bob was awesome, I didn't expect him to stab the girl. I thought he was going to use the "skills" he showed Raylan in the car.

Raylan shooting the air bag was awesome. Reminded me of his "tablecloth" move in last seasons premiere.

Edited by speedroc, Jan 8, 2013 @ 11:34 PM.

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Posted Jan 8, 2013 @ 11:33 PM

Great start to the season.
I'm intrigued by the mystery, and they set up nicely how serious it is with how Arlo reacted. That was cold! This show so often makes the villains funny and oddly charming, I forget how vicious they can be.

Loved Raylan's car being stolen, shooting the air bag, and using the same line about putting the guy in the trunk that he used on Dewey back in Season 1, except actually going through with it this time. It's going to be interesting to watch him toe the line this season. I get the feeling he shouldn't be so trusting of Lindsay and his piles of cash though.
Constable Bob was fantastic. I especially like the warbling siren (which he paid for himself).

Loved wicked Boyd and his criminal empire. So cold, so calculating, so comforted by Dr. Pepper? Very interesting that he's squirreling away money that Ava and Johnny don't know about, and I like the addition of his old military buddy, adds a different dynamic to the crew. And good to see Johnny moving around a bit better too, even though sooner or later he's going to get it for all the stuff with Limehouse and Devil.

So, so happy the show is back. Can't wait until next week, and I'll probably re-watch this one a few times!
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Posted Jan 8, 2013 @ 11:33 PM

Arlo continues to be slick and all around no good.

That names Waldo Truth has me wondering. Perhaps it's related to the Truth churches scattered throughout the South.

If Winona is still pregnant, not much time has passed between last season and this one.

Edited by Puds38, Jan 8, 2013 @ 11:57 PM.

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Posted Jan 8, 2013 @ 11:33 PM

Welcome back, Show. Thank you for showing me Boyd freaked out by his pal and Arlo showing me he's a stone cold sociopath. Poor Raylan. Yay for Patton!
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Posted Jan 8, 2013 @ 11:35 PM

I keep telling myself that it is wrong to laugh when someone is getting shot or killed, but I am not able to stop. Laughed out loud when the hooker shot the man in the bear costume, then found myself trying to explain what was so funny about a person getting shot. Then I laughed even louder when Boyd's friend (and who was playing that character, it is driving me crazy) shot the man when he was supposed to untie him.

Correct me if I am wrong, but hasn't the show upped Arlo's badness? Before he shot Tom I thought of him as pretty small fry as far as criminals go. My impression was drug dealing, cons and such. I never thought of him as a true badass and now he has killed two men. His character seems pretty old to be escalating at this rate or is it his senility or ptsd?
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Posted Jan 8, 2013 @ 11:38 PM

"You run into an asshole in the morning, you ran into an asshole. You run into assholes all day, you're the asshole."

Ha! Holy shit I missed this show. Not sure if it was me or not, but Raylan is a little hill-billy'd up this season, yes?

Poor Ellen May, bless her stupid little heart.

I had to laugh at the constable story line, because there is a big thing in KY now with constables. We actually had one up the street from us, and he made $100 a month, furnished his own car, computer, and had a CCDW, but he shot a suspected shoplifter in the parking lot at Walmart with a bunch of people standing around. It didn't help that she was driving away and he chased her. This "Constable Bob" is just like our guy.

And, it might just be me, but the room dropped 30 degrees at the end when Arlo showed up. He went from elderly to sinister.

Edited by DuckyinKy, Jan 8, 2013 @ 11:39 PM.

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Posted Jan 9, 2013 @ 12:00 AM

Correct me if I am wrong, but hasn't the show upped Arlo's badness? Before he shot Tom I thought of him as pretty small fry as far as criminals go. My impression was drug dealing, cons and such. I never thought of him as a true badass and now he has killed two men. His character seems pretty old to be escalating at this rate or is it his senility or ptsd?

Arlo has always been weaselly to me. From the start it felt implied that he was always lethal. Didn't he try to shot Raylon first season when he sold him out to Boyd's daddy?
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Posted Jan 9, 2013 @ 12:29 AM

Negative out of the way first: boo to no Art or Tim, and barely any Rachel. Surprisingly, I did enjoy Bob, but I really missed those three, and I really hope they aren't going to be in the background this season.

Besides that, excellent start. I knew things were going to be good as soon as Raylan shot the air bag. And him having the bail jumper stuck in the trunk was so wrong, but so hilarious. Timothy Olyphant was on fire throughout the entire episode. So many awesome lines to choose from; favorite was probably him saying something to Arlo about wanting a daughter so the Givens name can be done with. Now, that's some spite right there.

New character, famailar faces. Besides Patton Oswalt, I could tell Billy the Preacher was the kid from Jurassic Park, his sister was Lindsay Pulsipher, who I recently saw on True Blood, Brian Howie as the guy with a "furry" fetish, and Ron Eldard as Boyd's army buddy. Curious to see how they will play out. Most curious about Billy and what problems he'll bring for Boyd.

Loved Boyd's stuff and getting use to being a kingpin now. It ain't easy! It seems Johnny is recovering from that shotgun wound way back from S1.

Arlo went real violent there at the end. I'm very intrigued now about this mystery and what he is hiding.
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Posted Jan 9, 2013 @ 12:53 AM

The flashback was interesting...very Breaking Bad-like.


It reminded me of Six Feet Under, when every episode began with a random death like that.

Welcome back, Justified! I missed you.
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Posted Jan 9, 2013 @ 1:10 AM

Arlo's savagery caught me by surprise I have to say. And I miss Winona.

I was so pumped when the show episode opened with some Rachel but it turned out to be a tease. Art, Rachel and Tim need more screen time.

The show felt different somehow. Good to know Raylan is still running into the chattiest criminals. Heh. Raylan looked absolutely exhausted the entire episode. With Arlo slashing someone's throat in the season premiere I can only imagine what he'll have to put up with the rest of the season. He should get some sleep while he can.

Edited by Mia Nina, Jan 9, 2013 @ 1:11 AM.

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Posted Jan 9, 2013 @ 1:11 AM

1. Good episode. Not great, but I suspect episode 2 is when things really start rolling.

2. Loved Patton as constable Bob, and his car and siren.

3. I also really liked the Jody character, the actor and Olyphant had really great chemistry.

4. Raylan is a dick.

5. Raylan is a dick.

6. I want to give Ellen May a big hug.

7. Awww, Boyd's got a new Devil.

8. Ava.....

9. I hope Lindsey isn't around for the whole season cause even in small doses her voice is just so fucking grating.
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Posted Jan 9, 2013 @ 1:26 AM

Constable Bob was fantastic. I especially like the warbling siren (which he paid for himself).

Agreed 110%! I thought I was going to absolutely hate Oswalt but both he and the character were great. I hope they don't take him too far into Barney Fife territory.

Hate Ava the madam. Hate! All I can do is laugh when she's onscreen. I'm not sure if it's the actress or just the character.

Raylan shooting the air bag was awesome. Reminded me of his "tablecloth" move in last seasons premiere.

I loved that whole scene. Raylan is such a badass.
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Posted Jan 9, 2013 @ 2:18 AM

Good start, but it would have been better with some Art. Interested in seeing where they go with the preacher because so far he lacks charisma. Boyd runs circles around him as a charismatic preacher.
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Posted Jan 9, 2013 @ 2:54 AM

I keep telling myself that it is wrong to laugh when someone is getting shot or killed, but I am not able to stop. Laughed out loud when the hooker shot the man in the bear costume, then found myself trying to explain what was so funny about a person getting shot. Then I laughed even louder when Boyd's friend (and who was playing that character, it is driving me crazy) shot the man when he was supposed to untie him.



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Posted Jan 9, 2013 @ 3:08 AM

That was just packed with story. Lots of good stuff to come.

Raylan seemed generally uneasy to me, as in a little out of control and not just because his car and his prisoner got stolen. Like he's off center -- which isn't surprising really. BTW, that fugitive guy was great. Too bad he's not going to be a regular.

Loved Boyd. His story felt a little stretched to me last season, but it already looks like his new arc will be good. (He sure loves that pocket watch.)

I don't like that Ava apparently thinks beating is no big deal now. Not after her own experiences. --I agree that she seems out of place as a madam. I know women manage prostitutes, but somehow for her it seems out of place. Poor Ellen May. I feel so bad for that woman.

For me, Constable Bob already grates.

Withholding opinion for now on the new preacher. I kept comparing him to Boyd testifying, and he just wasn't as charismatic (but few are).

Glad to see Ron Eldard. I don't think his character and Johnny are going to get along very well. --Johnny needs more of a storyline, so maybe something will develop there.

Damn, Arlo! Except for that surprising ending, though, I kept getting distracted because I'm pretty sure he hasn't always said "aks" rather than "ask."
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Posted Jan 9, 2013 @ 5:20 AM

A solid opener. Raylan is obviously still thinking about Winnona & the baby and is still living over the bar and punishing himself with extra work to to earn cash etc.

Agreed that I'd like to have seen more of the Marshalls - this will always be an issue I think, especially if the action is going to take place in Harlan & the Kentucky hill country.

Damn glad to see it back!
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Posted Jan 9, 2013 @ 7:03 AM

This show. *hugs it tight*

This show's dialogue. *kisses and fondles it*

There wasn't really anything I didn't love about this episode. I love Patton Oswalt anyway, so if he's going to be recurring on this season, I'll be very happy about it. Like others, I could have done with some Art and Tim, but I'm sure they'll be around soon enough.

So very happy to have this show back.
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Posted Jan 9, 2013 @ 7:26 AM

Man, I missed this show. Constable Bob's Gremlin with the lights was hilariously awful. Loved Raylan shooting the air bag. I laughed my ass off at the hooker shooting her furry (although I was berating her for snorting an unknown substance described only as "not cocaine"). Ava's "I only hit you once" defense was just silly.

I did not miss Winona at all. When Raylan mentioned his kid on the way, I thought oh, that's right, Winona still exists - craaaaap.
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Posted Jan 9, 2013 @ 7:27 AM

Great season premiere. I loved the Big Lebowski reference. I was a little confused by the flashback. Was that supposed to be a younger version of Arlo who found the dead parachutist or was it the guy who lived in the house at the time?
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Posted Jan 9, 2013 @ 8:09 AM

I was a little confused by the flashback. Was that supposed to be a younger version of Arlo who found the dead parachutist or was it the guy who lived in the house at the time?


Someone can correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think it was either. The guy's wife called him by name, not Arlo, and the house looked like it was in a suburban cul-de-sac. Arlo & Helen's house is more isolated.
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Posted Jan 9, 2013 @ 8:27 AM

The episode did feel a little different. It almost seemed like a reintroduction to the characters, kind of like the Alias Season 4 finale. Save for Arlo in jail and Raylan's problems with Winona, they didn't pick up on last season's stuff and I'm fine with that. It was definitely different without any Winona. I haven't been a fan of her character for the past two seasons so I'm fine with her not there anymore but it still felt different not seeing her. And of course, no Art.
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Posted Jan 9, 2013 @ 8:32 AM

Someone can correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think it was either. The guy's wife called him by name, not Arlo, and the house looked like it was in a suburban cul-de-sac. Arlo & Helen's house is more isolated.


The wife called him Sherman. Not Arlo and Helen or their house because as stated they did not live in the suburbs.
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Posted Jan 9, 2013 @ 9:23 AM

Mr. EB hasn't watched this show since S1 so when he watched tonight's episode with me, he said, "Wait, they have gravestones in the front yard?" Funny how I just take that for granted. Duh, of course they just bury people in the front yard!
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Posted Jan 9, 2013 @ 9:54 AM

After just re-watching season 1, it's fresh in my mind, and in one of the episodes Arlo asks Raylan how many people he's shot, and says for all he did, he never shot anyone. So yeah, with Tom and now the prisoner, I think it's fair to say he's escalated.

I didn't really miss Winona - I didn't hate her or anything, but I didn't really miss her. Have to agree with whoever upthread mentioned Lindsay's voice, it is kind of annoying.

Ava talks a good game when she's playing the boss, but she seems in over her head a little, not knowing how to handle the "bear shooting" (which was hilarious) without Boyd. Considering she had no problem blowing away Delroy last season, it seemed a little odd, but maybe I was just reading it wrong.

The preacher was the Jurassic Park kid? Wow. I feel old. And his sister - let's just say I really disliked her on True Blood, but I'm willing to give her another shot here since Justified is a much better show and their casting has been spot on so far.

I think I'm going to be giggling to myself all day, picturing Constable Bob and Raylan driving around in the Gremlin.
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Posted Jan 9, 2013 @ 9:57 AM

Oh my, how much I have missed this show.

Besides Patton Oswalt, I could tell Billy the Preacher was the kid from Jurassic Park,

Thanks for pointing that out, I totally missed that. I don't think that Boyd needs to worry about preacher boy very much--judging from his family history a snake will take him out. Even if that doesn't happen, he doesn't seem much of a threat to Boyd. I do expect that the snakes will figure unpleasantly in someone's future this season.

Can Ellen May get any dumber? She's smart enough to remember getting hit by Ava, though.

The fugitive of the week was an interesting foil to Raylan--I was almost sorry to see him go.

Mr. EB hasn't watched this show since S1 so when he watched tonight's episode with me, he said, "Wait, they have gravestones in the front yard?" Funny how I just take that for granted. Duh, of course they just bury people in the front yard!

I got a sense of foreboding when I saw Constable Bob standing in the family graveyard, but that may have been due to the fact that I never expected him to survive the episode.

Boyd needs to be more precise in his directions. After seeing all of the threats with the dynamite,of course his new sidekick assumed that he wanted the guy shot. I guess that puts the kabosh on any idea that the old army buddy is an undercover cop now...

Arlo's senility seems very inconsistent to me... Last season, he almost forgot who Raylan was, at times, but this season, he remembers enough of a 30-40 year old crime to figure out that the other prisoner needs to be taken out? Wonder if the prison authorities will put him in solitary now? He didn't make any effort to get rid of the blood on his hands. I did like the fact that the prisoner he murdered gasped out "Why?" as he was dying, as that somehow seemed like something someone would actually say. I imagine that many people who are murdered, even violent criminals, just can't believe that someone would actually kill them.
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Posted Jan 9, 2013 @ 10:18 AM

I was so happy to be riding in that Town Car again, I nearly had a heart attack at the prospect of it being crushed! Thank goodness for the speedy Gremlin.

Only downside...no Art. Bah!

No Sniper Marshal Tim, either, and worst of all, naked bail-bond lady butt but no naked Givens butt! I call shenanigans!

Somebody getting shanked in genpop; makes me nostalgic for Oz.

I know I was not alone in murmuring 'fire in the hole!' during Boyd's meetings with Hiram. So many problems solved with fireworks. Nice effects in making the window look all shattered.

So, what's Boyd amassing a stash o'cash for? (Not that a person needs a reason. But Boyd usually has one.)
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Posted Jan 9, 2013 @ 10:27 AM

Arlo's senility seems very inconsistent to me... Last season, he almost forgot who Raylan was, at times, but this season, he remembers enough of a 30-40 year old crime to figure out that the other prisoner needs to be taken out?


Isn't one of the signs of dementia/alzheimers that a sufferer is more likely to remember stuff that happened years ago and not stuff that happened more recently? It could just be that Arlo is back on his medication.
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