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[gingercharm21]

Regina is accused of murdering one of the town's most beloved fairytale characters -- but only Emma senses that she may be innocent. Meanwhile, back in the fairytale land that was, after capturing the Evil Queen, Snow White and Prince Charming set about planning her public execution in order to rid the land of her murderous tyranny

Emma eventually owes Regina an apology for falsely accusing her of murdering Archie and poisoning her son against her. This show is really irritating when it comes to an adopted child/ parent relationship. I wish one damn resident in town would let Emma know she isn't Henry's (only) mother, that angers the hell out of me. She gave him up for adoption, Regina adopted him, it is NOT right to push her out of his life.

Charming and his whole family need to dial down the self-righteousness.

Edited by TWoP Tennison, Jan 7, 2013 @ 9:16 AM.

[aquarian1]

Regine is blamed for the death of a much-admired citizen, but Emma thinks she may not be guilty. Meanwhile, back in fairy-tale land, Snow White and Prince Charming plot a public execution for the Evil Queen

Man, Regina's mom really is the most evil of them all isn't she. She puts Gold/Rumple and Regina to shame.

[Snapple12]

Emma eventually owes Regina an apology for falsely accusing her of murdering Archie and poisoning her son against her. This show is really irritating when it comes to an adopted child/ parent relationship. I wish one damn resident in town would let Emma know she isn't Henry's (only) mother, that angers the hell out of me. She gave him up for adoption, Regina adopted him, it is NOT right to push her out of his life.

Charming and his whole family need to dial down the self-righteousness.

Emma never thought she was Henry's only mother. She only said it this episode because she thought Regina killed Archie but before she would refer to both herself and Regina as his mother.

[Fable]

Phew! I’m so relieved Archie isn’t dead. I just love him!

Hook to Cora: “Well aren’t you just the mother of the year!” LOL.

I’m so glad this show is back. I really, really missed it when it was gone!

[toddringersdry]

Probably the best episode of the second season.

Hopper lives! It had to have been Rumple who knew what was coming and propped someone to take the doctor's place.

I love watching Emma sticking up for Regina and then despairing when the evidence showed she did it. Their fight, short as it was, was delicious. Incredible chemistry between those two.

Charming and Snow being found in flagrante delicto wasn’t something I thought I would see on this show, but every one pulled it off and the awkward wasn’t too bad.

Besides the Regina Emma stuff I really enjoyed how the show finally revealed the reason Regina sought fit to use the curse and why it was the only way to kill Snow and Charming.

Red continues to be awesome but I admit the funniest line came at her expense.
"Private conversation - go take yourself for a walk."

"You should have seen I to do to make meatloaf.”
Oh Granny, don't ever stop.

[Chicken Wing]

Best party sign ever:

WELCOME HOME MARY MARGARET
and emma

Edited by Chicken Wing, Jan 6, 2013 @ 9:11 PM.

[Senna]

Whooooo, I feel like I've forgotten a ton in the month that passed. It's getting really hard to keep the Fairy Tale Land timeline straight. I guess I need to watch the series again and take notes.

Seeing Evil Queen Regina so unrepentant worked against any sympathy I might've felt for Regina this episode. If that's not what the writers were going for, I think they really messed up. I guess you could say, "Look how different she's acting now," which is true, but ...

Who was it who met Cora and Hook at the docks (and got turned into a fish)? He didn't look familiar, but as I said, I've forgotten a lot.

I wonder if they'll ever address who Cora actually killed in place of Archie. I guess I'm glad Archie's not dead (though he hasn't been much use lately), but I want to know who is.

[BryrRoseA]

Took it over to the other thread!

Edited by BryrRoseA, Jan 6, 2013 @ 9:24 PM.

[gingercharm21]

Also, Emma and Snow just spent time in Fairy Tale Land with Cora. They know she can take the shape of someone else, why have they forgotten this? I like this show, but so often the creators rely on plot necessitated stupidity.

A public execution seems a little bloodthirsty for our "heroes".

[stealinghome]

Good episode, but...

Regina is officially insufferable, entitled, and STILL treats Henry like a possession instead of a son. I'm so f'ing sick of this season being the Regina Redemption Tour. Pretty sure that the next step is to have the birds singing that Regina WANTS to change, REALLY. arg. Any more "poor wikkle Regina" crap and I may have to be done with this show. It's just that awful.

Snow is a dumb shit and a terrible ruler for saving Regina. Charming is the only person in that family with a lick of common sense.

DID love sexy Snow and Charming at the start. Terribly disappointed that they're not showing what I was so excited for at the end of S1--them ACTUALLY conquering the kingdom, working together.

I had really missed gold glittery manic Rumpel, it was good to see him. Hook continues to REALLY underwhelm.

Can this show go back to being about the actual good guys, who I like and want to see more of?

[Cameltoes]

I was never a big fan of Regina's redemption arc so after Ruby witnessed the scene between Archie and Regina, I expected to be very annoyed by an over the top sympathy ploy assuming that the only evidence would be a witness to a mildly heated argument. However, I thought it was played pretty fairly. I understand Snow and Charming's reluctance to trust Regina and Emma's reaction after witnessing what she believed happened. I think her reaction was fair. She did give her the benefit of the doubt initially. Perhaps they should have all questioned Rumple's magic and considered other possibilities but they have no reason to believe that a known shape shifter is in town.

This show is really irritating when it comes to an adopted child/ parent relationship. I wish one damn resident in town would let Emma know she isn't Henry's (only) mother, that angers the hell out of me. She gave him up for adoption, Regina adopted him, it is NOT right to push her out of his life.

I've had issues with the adopted vs. birth parent theme on the show in the past. However, in this case it's not too irksome. Both birth parents and adoptive parents can lose custody, even temporarily, for a variety of reasons. Accidentally poisoning your child and later being suspected of murder on top of a history of murderous deeds is a pretty good reason to lose access to a child. I'm sure that after the truth comes out, there will be alot of apologies and Regina's relationship with Henry will be repaired. And that is despite all the evil she's done. I think she deserves to suffer a bit in the interim.

I was relieved to see that Archie was still alive. He's one of the characters that I want to stay around long enough to get a happy ending.

Edited by Cameltoes, Jan 6, 2013 @ 9:18 PM.

[Snapple12]

Also, Emma and Snow just spent time in Fairy Tale Land with Cora. They know she can take the shape of someone else, why have they forgotten this? I like this show, but so often the creators rely on plot necessitated stupidity.

They don't know she's in storybook so I don't know why they should jump to the conclusion that it's her.

[Jupiter84]

Loved the episode.

There were some great one liners in this episode from Regina with Red, to Snow/Charming talking about traumatizing Emma at her age. Just wished they dealt more with them becoming more acquainted.

As much as I love Regina and do feel for her because in this instance she is innocent, I am not going to criticize the Charmings for not believing her or wanting to take Henry away. How many chances do you give someone who tried to kill you countless times, and basically made you lose raising their daughter.

Cora is great can't wait for her reunion with Regina.

Also, Emma and Snow just spent time in Fairy Tale Land with Cora. They know she can take the shape of someone else, why have they forgotten this? I like this show, but so often the creators rely on plot necessitated stupidity.

Why would they think Cora came over, they knew there were no more beans, and Emma/Snow used the last of the wardrobe dust and the compass. There is no reason to think Cora came to Storybrook.

Edited by Jupiter84, Jan 6, 2013 @ 9:22 PM.

[BooBear]

I liked a lot of the episode but I thought it strange that Regina would take no action in response to someone trying to frame her, the moment she got hauled into questioning I would have thought she would be on the war path to find out what was going on. Being good doesn't mean being weak. That seemed like plot contrivance.

Is Rumpy saying that Regina can kill Snow and Charming in Storybooke?

that they're not showing what I was so excited for at the end of S1--them ACTUALLY conquering the kingdom, working together.

Doesn't mean they can't flash back to it in future episodes.

[Devon Rose]

Also, Emma and Snow just spent time in Fairy Tale Land with Cora. They know she can take the shape of someone else, why have they forgotten this? I like this show, but so often the creators rely on plot necessitated stupidity.

But, is it really stupidity when Emma and Snow don't know that Cora is in Storybrooke at this point.

[BryrRoseA]

Oops, posted in the wrong thread, I guess:

I'm glad both Evil Regina and Evil Rumpy were back this week. I actually LOLed at Regina crying the the car like a teen girl who didn't get asked to the Prom. Thankfully flashback Regina still brings the badass.

Also, Chicken Wing, I thought that sign was amazing as well. :D

Edited by BryrRoseA, Jan 6, 2013 @ 9:22 PM.

[Dani-Ellie]

Regina was flippin' on fire with the one-liners tonight. Between telling Archie that he got his PhD from a curse and then telling Red to go take herself on a walk, my snerk reflex was in overdrive.

I loved the way Jennifer Morrison played Emma believing that Regina was telling the truth when they brought her into the station. She flinched and then perked up, as if Emma was expecting an river of lies to come out of her mouth and was shocked that it didn't.

Also loved Henry and Emma catching Snow and Charming. Henry's innocence was sweet and Emma's discomfort was just the right amount of awkwardness and " ...ew."

And yay Archie's not really dead! So excited about that! Cora is fabulous, the invisibility cloak on Hook's ship is awesome, and Hook is still very pretty (and he can talk to me as long as he wants ... accents are hot).

I missed this show. So very much.

[Whatsyourface]

Regina: "Father, get me my carriage. We're going shopping."

[zephrus]

What a great episode. Both the Storybrooke and Fairly Tale Land scenes were fantastic. Loved all the Snow/Evil Queen scenes. I still wish Charming/David would, i don't know, fall into a portal or something.

[xqueenfrostine]

Emma eventually owes Regina an apology for falsely accusing her of murdering Archie and poisoning her son against her.

Charming and his whole family need to dial down the self-righteousness.

Seriously? I don't think Regina ever offered one to Mary Margaret for framing her for murder. Not that two wrongs make a right, but I think it's rich to call the Charmings self-righteous for using the available evidence (what Ruby and Pongo witnessed) and past experience with Regina to come to the logical conclusion that Regina murdered Archie. If that makes them self-righteous, then so is any jury member who has ever convicted a criminal, rightly or wrongly, for a crime.

Who was it who met Cora and Hook at the docks (and got turned into a fish)? He didn't look familiar, but as I said, I've forgotten a lot.

I think he was just some random, but I could be wrong.

Hurray! They didn't really kill Archie! I didn't see that coming. Raphael Sbarge has been so underused, that I'm glad they're offering him what may turn out to be a real plotline!

I loved the opening scene! Charming's line about still having the ability to provide Emma with traumatic childhood memories was very funny. I really want these two to have another kid! I suspect that would probably be hard for Emma (watching her parents provide a sibling with the love and home she never had), but Snow is too wonderful of a mother to never know what it's like to raise a child. Plus I love the saccharine fluffiness of the Charming household. I welcome any developments that would bring us more of that.

Speaking of motherhood, I'm happy to see Emma being more active as a mother and showing signs that she won't be as inattentive to Henry's whereabouts as David and Regina were or as she used to be.

As for Regina, honestly as good as Lana Parilla is at playing vulnerable and making me feel sympathy for her (honestly, I'm not sure any other actress could manage to pull at my heartstrings given her character's past as well as she does), it annoys me how quickly she seems to expect for her good deeds and efforts to change to pay dividends with the town. There's no such thing as a single act that can redeem a lifetime of brutality. Not unless that act leaves that someone dead, thus sparing everyone around them from having to decide whether her moment of goodness was a fluke, a ruse or a true turning point in her life towards good. Building trust takes time. And in that time, Regina has to expect that she's going to have to do a lot of turning the other cheek, waiting for people's opinions to change. And she has to understand that for some people, she's hurt them too much for them to ever start seeing her any differently. That's just the price she has to bear for her crimes. Accepting that is part of becoming a better person.

Tonight's episode has me even more skeptical than I was before that she's capable of that change. I do believe she was genuine in her desire to change for Henry, but I also think she's too easily discouraged to truly redeem herself. If she's not rewarded every step of the way, she'll likely regress. It's sad that she was framed for murder and all (though it's kind of just desserts for her given that she framed Mary Margaret last season), but she allows herself to act like a guilty woman when challenged. That's not going to work out. Not with Henry, not with the town, and ultimately not for her.

That's actually good news to me though as I love Regina most when she's bad! I'm not that interested in seeing a redeemed Regina, so I cheer every fail.

I loved Emma in this episode. She bugs me in general, but I was happy about all of her decisions tonight. I respected her a lot for making the effort to invite Regina to the homecoming party and including her in Henry's life, while still maintaining boundaries about how much access to him she's ready to grant Regina. And I thought it was great that she was committed to the ideal of innocent until proven guilty. Sure she believed falsified evidence, but given that she has every reason to believe that Cora is trapped back in the Enchanted Forest, I don't blame her for believing her own eyes.

The use of the dreamcatcher as a magical implement was interesting, given that we've seen Neal with one twice.

Loved the fairy tale storyline. It complemented the Storybrooke timeline very well, provided insight as to how the Queen was dethroned and why Snow and Charming deposed George in this first place (to keep him from supporting the Queen militarily it seems), and shows why she came to settle on the Dark Curse as her means for revenge. I know a lot of people will point to Rumple's sticky fingers over this, since he clearly was maneuvering her into position to unleash the curse for him, but I think tonight's episode illustrated beautifully how many ways in which she could have taken another path but didn't. Rumple just provided with the tools he wanted her to use, but she made those choices. She could have made peace with Snow after she spared her life not once, but twice (considering she could have been killed for failing the test), but she didn't. Rumplestiltskin didn't make that happen. He just took advantage of her hateful drives.

Great episode overall. I missed this show so much over the hiatus!

Edited by xqueenfrostine, Jan 6, 2013 @ 9:36 PM.

[Lila82]

I love that Cora and Hook are living it up in the real world wearing the bustiers and leather dusters that they arrived in. Yes, yes, they are keeping out of sight, but come on. If I saw people arrive on a multi-masted galleon and dressed like it's Halloween year round, I might do more than offer to serve them clam chowder. That dude deserved to be turned into a fish.

Emma was so pretty this episode. All those flowy sweaters and pulled back hair were really lovely. I also covet Mary Margaret's tweed skirt. But? Doesn't she have to work? If she has time for detective work, she also has time for her full time teaching gig.

The moment Evil!Queen!Regina! was all, "Don't tell me what I can or can't do," I had terrible flashbacks to six seasons of Locke and Jack pretending to feud with each other.

So, so hoping it was August or Jefferson hidden in the hold of that boat.

Belle and Gold creep me out so, so much. He's pretty awesome, but she looks like his teenage daughter. The one rebelling against her doddering dad by refusing to brush her hair when out in public. Eww.

Also, Emma and Snow just spent time in Fairy Tale Land with Cora. They know she can take the shape of someone else, why have they forgotten this? I like this show, but so often the creators rely on plot necessitated stupidity.

In their defense, they have no reason to believe she's in Storybrooke or to suspect that she's impersonating Regina.

[BryrRoseA]

The use of the dreamcatcher as a magical implement was interesting, given that we've seen Neal with one twice.

Ooh, I missed that. Good catch! More support for the Neal/Bae theory since the dream catcher was in Rumple's shop, or are we seeing it more as a generic magic implement?

[redtail]

That may have been the most boring episode of the entire series. How many weeks off, and we got, blah.

Josh Dallas' Prince Harming of ratings is really getting grating, he is the most boring, dull and insipid character on tv, and that is really saying alot.

Snow can be interesting, when they want her to be, but is there any character on this show who does not have bad judgement, stupidty, and idiocy in their genetic pool? I saved "X" character, only to have them destroy us later on is so boring, and dull.

"I didn't kill,stop, harm Regina because of XYZ" is truly getting dull.

So many weeks off, and we got this episode, I could hardly stay awake..

[My Way]

Hook to Cora: “Well aren’t you just the mother of the year!” LOL.

LOl, Hook was on fire tonight. I actually cheered at his getting ready to torture Archie because he just looked so gleeful (I also cheered that Archie wasn't dead). Be fun evil, Hook!

Liked this episode, although oh I cringed when Emma finally turned on Regina. I just wanted someone to have a brainstorming session about what could possibly have happened to make it look like Regina did it when she didn't. I'm glad Emma at least really tried to look for other answers, but Regina could have thrown in some ideas too. Ugh.

[fester01]

Great return episode, one of the best of the season. Love when Regina brings the snark:

"Take yourself for a walk" and "You realize you got your PhD from a curse, right?" were hilarious.


Although I am mildly curious about whether or not Mulan/Aurora were able to cure Phillip, I was mostly glad to have an episode that was Storybrooke-centric, with only a few flashbacks. We can find out about Current Fairy Tale Land later. And by later, I mean season 4.

[Ella123]

Emma eventually owes Regina an apology for falsely accusing her of murdering Archie

This can come after Regina apologizes to Emma for trying to put her under a sleeping curse and ripping her away from her parents when she was a baby. And after apologizing to Snow for framing her for murder and trying to kill her repeatedly. And after apologizing to Kathryn for plotting to murder her when Kathryn was trying to be her friend. And after apologizing to Belle for locking her up for 28 years and the rest of the Enchanted forest citizens. Oh who am I kidding. There is no apology needed. Regina just needs to be jailed, for life. Or executed works too.

I love Cora. She is saving this season for me so far. I'm not exactly sure why she wants Hook as her "partner" though. She doesn't need him. He should be her lackey and boytoy. And he's so outclassed by Rumpel. Cora I can see as Rumpel's worthy enemy. Hook? Not so much.

[gingercharm21]

In their defense, they have no reason to believe she's in Storybrooke or to suspect that she's impersonating Regina.

Ok, I've heard this quite a few times now, but come on...why couldn't it have even mentioned in a conversation and then dropped? They should've considered that Cora could've found a different way, as small a chance as that was.

Also, who gave Emma/ Charming the authority in town to be such overbearing figures in the police department? They shouldn't even be involved in questioning Regina because they aren't impartial. They already want her burning on a stake, so in their eyes she's already guilty. If they now live in the real world, they must abide by real world laws.

[kennyab]

If I saw people arrive on a multi-masted galleon and dressed like it's Halloween year round, I might do more than offer to serve them clam chowder. That dude deserved to be turned into a fish.

I don't think they docked in Storybrooke. Have they ever mentioned the town having docks? It seems that the road is the only way in and out. So that was just a regular guy working on a dock, not someone who knows that magic exists. There are plenty of replica ships, so it wouldn't be out of the question to see a couple of people in costume around one of those replicas.

[brisbydog]

Belle and Gold creep me out so, so much. He's pretty awesome, but she looks like his teenage daughter.

The actress is 31.....not sure how old Belle is but she must be out of her teens

[My Way]

Oh, one other small thing I loved, the swan swimming on the lake/river/ocean (?). Nice touch.

Also, who gave Emma/ Charming the authority in town to be such overbearing figures in the police department?

Charming seems to have deputized himself, but Emma is the sheriff. She was elected and everything. Who else would be questioning Regina? There is probably no one in town who is more likely to be fair to Regina than Emma. Everybody else hates her.

Edited by My Way, Jan 6, 2013 @ 9:38 PM.