Posted Jan 6, 2013 @ 5:58 PM
Posted Jan 6, 2013 @ 10:25 PM
It premieres on January 19th? Sweet, a good birthday present from the old TV (that, and the awesome Jennifer Lawrence hosting Satuarday Night Live that evening.)
Posted Jan 7, 2013 @ 5:02 PM
Posted Jan 7, 2013 @ 6:02 PM
Posted Jan 7, 2013 @ 6:13 PM
I watched the pilot and 2/3 of the first episode and that was it. My initial thought after 5 minutes of the pilot was "it's Coppers with better lighting". There are a lot of similarities with regards to setting, general tone but also characterization. Doesn't make it a bad show butI stopped watching "Coppers" because of its depressing storylines, squalor and violence and decided to drop this one for the same reasons. Plus: "Mr Selfridge" airs at the same time.
Funny it seems more like Sherlock Holmes the movie to me. I will say it's improving. Sadly, Jeremy Piven makes me break out in hives so I couldn't sit through "Mr. Selfridge".
I think what I like about this show is that unlike most Victoriana shows and even Doyle's and Dickens work-doesn't whitewash the brutality of the East End. Only wish they would show some prostitutes that weren't glamour models-though the brothel seems to be a bit more upscale.
If the producers can use the squalor and violence to tell a story and not the Torchwood model of "look what we can do on the BBC!", they might have a winner. Just hope Flynn gets more of a storyline.
Posted Jan 7, 2013 @ 6:57 PM
Posted Jan 7, 2013 @ 11:44 PM
Are they capitalizing on Coppers? Possibly, but that's ok. It's a different place and the spectre of the aftermath of the Ripper is interesting enough for me.
Honestly, there's so much crap on tv, so something different will catch my interest. I watched Copper way late so I couldn't participate in the discussions, so now that I know others are watching, I'll try to stay on top of this show.
Posted Jan 8, 2013 @ 7:26 AM
Posted Jan 8, 2013 @ 11:18 AM
I haven't seen it yet (hasn't aired in the US yet) but I will give it an episode or two, if only to check out Matthew MacFayden.
Posted Jan 9, 2013 @ 12:27 AM
I liked E2 as well:
Posted Jan 9, 2013 @ 12:51 AM
Posted Jan 9, 2013 @ 1:03 PM
But the similarities with Copper are a bit too much. The main guy having a troubled relationship with his wife and the dead/missing daughter. The doctor having a secret past. The prostitutes. Edmund having an antagonistic relationship with his boss, the inspector. I wonder if both shows were written at the same time.
I like sergeant Drake. I hope we get to know more about him.
Edited by Dicer3, Jan 9, 2013 @ 1:08 PM.
Posted Jan 9, 2013 @ 11:27 PM
Posted Jan 15, 2013 @ 2:49 PM
Posted Jan 15, 2013 @ 7:15 PM
Posted Jan 19, 2013 @ 1:48 AM
But I think I already like the three main guys more here, while the women on 'Copper' are more interestingly written thus far.
I agree with this assessment. The three main characters are more compelling than the detectives on 'Copper,' but that also might be because that show essentially had only one main character, while this show doesn't give all the screen time or mystery to one character. I agree about the women -- I like Susan, but overall, the women of 'Copper' had more of an edge to them. Still, there's time for that to change.
The show is definitely influenced by Guy Ritchie's Holmes movies (right down to the bare-knuckle fights and the font used in the credits) and 'Copper' (and yes, the lighting is much better), but that isn't necessarily a bad thing. I like both of those, but it's nice to watch a period piece without RDJ hamming it up or not being able to see half the scene or tell the cast of dirt-smudged white people apart.
Posted Jan 19, 2013 @ 9:25 PM
Posted Jan 19, 2013 @ 10:28 PM
I can see the resemblances not only to Copper, but also Murdoch Mysteries (although in a much darker vein) and any number of other "period" procedurals. Certainly the men were more developed than the women, hopefully that will change.I did like that they're all still dealing with the fallout of "Jack" not only in the police themselves, but also in the city as a whole. It engaged my interest enough to stick with it.
Posted Jan 20, 2013 @ 1:26 AM
I like Reid. I also like how Drake is brutal, but gentle with women.
Posted Jan 20, 2013 @ 2:59 AM
It's hard not to compare her character to Eva on 'Copper', but at this point her history with Jackson is the most interesting thing about her, while Eva has quite a few more dimensions. It is early yet, though.
Any opinion on Myanna Buring?
Posted Jan 20, 2013 @ 4:25 AM
It seemed like Drake was developing feelings for Rose at the end. If so, it does amuse the Game of Thrones fan in me, because it means Bronn and Tyrion really are two peas in a pod. Both fall for whores.
Being in the States, we did have some censoring; mainly blurring out the nudity. No idea if there were any differences besides that.
Dug the opening credits.
Posted Jan 20, 2013 @ 11:41 AM
I loved the layered performances -- I'd call the production design "Show and Tell" -- Someone pointed out that the sidekick is brutal (we're both shown and told often enough) and the doctor tells us is supposedly awkward with women but shows us a man who can be gentle; MacFadyen's character is out to get the bad guy but in the middle of it all can look at the instrument of brutality (the camera) and appreciate its implications and importance. We're shown that MacFadyen wants the Ripper story behind him and, in case we missed it, he tells us point blank in the closing scene with his boss.
There is also an element of old style Doyle Holmesianism and a bit of Edgar Allan Poe to it. Mundane murder mystery meets sort of bizarre, science fiction-y for the time solution.
This show is smart and I really like that.
Edited by captanne, Jan 20, 2013 @ 11:41 AM.
Posted Jan 20, 2013 @ 1:56 PM
More Bronn on screen the happier I am.
Posted Jan 20, 2013 @ 2:10 PM
Posted Jan 20, 2013 @ 2:20 PM
I'll give it another go, but aside from MacFayden, not proving out to be my cuppa yet.
Edited by SDcat2009, Jan 20, 2013 @ 2:25 PM.