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NFL STAR ANTONIO GATES GUEST STARS – This week, the contestants are encouraged to “Get Moving,” and find themselves pushed to new limits when they are introduced to the new outdoor gyms that each trainer has custom designed. The stakes are high, with another red line looming for whoever loses the least amount of weight, and the dreaded “week 2 curse” that has instilled fear in all the contestants. Dr. H visits the ranch, giving the adult players an eye-opening wake-up call about just how unhealthy they really are, and one trainer has a heart-to-heart talk with their team to try and get them on track. Later, NFL star and San Diego Chargers tight end Antonio Gates cheers on the adult contestants and kids at a football-themed challenge testing the speed, agility and strength of the adults as they compete for a special prize for the child on their team. Plus, the trainers do a special fitness test with the kids and season 10 winner Patrick House makes a special appearance before the dreaded red line at an emotional weigh-in sends another player home.

[IzzleZizzle]

I missed the first 25 mins...started watching when Jillian actually asked her team what they needed from her. I had to check to make sure I was watching BL. And then she was nicer to them in the gym! Who spiked her Brita bottle?? It was rather refreshing, actually, to see her sit there and watch the person figure it out for themselves. Gosh, what a concept.

Quote of the show: "I got to train with Bob, and....that was awful." --Nate

While the red line can be rather unfair, I prefer it to the emotion-laden elimination room. That being said, do we REALLY need the weigh-in to last 35 minutes? For real?

Biggest Loser Fitness Test, eh? Looked like the Presidential Physical Fitness Test to me.

Next week looks yummy. I hope they got real Twinkees and HoHos before the company shut down.

[Bavct]

And just like that, I've lost interest in this season already.

The blue team guy with zero pounds lost should have gone home. At least the white team guy lost something, I thought the blue team guy seemed like he knew he wasn't going to lose anything and he just irked me for some reason.

The one thing I have always wanted to see on this show was that if you lost nothing or gained, you go home - and I really wanted to see that tonight. I'm not sure what they are trying to do with Jillian's team - the producer monkeys have something up their banana skins and I'm not interested in going along with it.

I'm over Jackson, go home. And take that little blonde girl with you. The rest can stay.

Because I'm being pissy - I hate that it's the Bob/Jillian show with a side of Dolvet. I understand those two are BFFs and all that, but it's like the cool kids hanging out together and the amazingly hot and cute jock is all by his lonesome. Call me Dol-baby ;)

[Lamb18]

I feel like I'm watching Survivor again and the white team is Matsing. There was even a red and blue team! I liked Nathan and am sorry to see him go. I wish red had lost and Jackson gone. His "I have to be here! I'm not ready yet!" speech was annoying and sounded like he was rehearsing his "don't vote for me" speech for when he is eventually below the yellow line. I do like Pam and Danni - one thing, they don't have to lose as much as the others.

Edited by Lamb18, Jan 7, 2013 @ 10:23 PM.

[missbloom]

Those high school kids looked utterly indifferent to the previous BL's visit. I loved the reveal of Patrick's giant pants, followed by canned 'hysterical screaming', followed by rapid cut to school children gazing blankly forward and not at all cheering. Ha! Nice try, BL! I'm not sure America's Youth is quite on board with your efforts to exploit them for further deification of the trainers.

Jillian resembles an emotional abuser - in your face with blame and insults and put downs, but then all loving and sweet once her rage is exhausted. I wonder how close someone has come to actually shoving her out of their face? Because I would be tempted after the third minute of the banshee-routine.

I like the lawyer-lady best so far. She seems like a rational, intelligent person with a reasonable grasp of reality. How on earth did she make it through casting??

And add me to the BIIngo-dislike club. That kid is way too 'on' - it's like they got 'happy, precocious fat-kid' from central casting. I like the two girls way more.

Edited by missbloom, Jan 7, 2013 @ 10:25 PM.

[windy31]

Dolvett's red pants at weight in. :)

[dreamer55]

I LOL'ed when Gina was getting pissy at Bob during the sledgehammer exercise. First when she was like, "I've never slung a sledgehammer at a tire. In what life would I ever need to do that?" and then when Bob said something and she responded, "Let's don't. I hate you." It was amazing.

I was stunned that Jillian took it down a notch and had the "what do you need from me?" talk with her team. What a concept! The screaming thing clearly wasn't working. It was really off-putting, the pounding of the walls and the condescending tone of voice. The fact that she chilled the fcuk out and listened to her team members was lovely. And it all worked when Pam stopped doing her treadmill workout. Pam had said, "Tell me what to do, leave, and I'll do it" and that's exactly what happened. Pam took a second to psych herself up, and did it. I liked that moment, despite the fact that Jillian's face was contorting with her efforts not to scream.

Jackson's speech to Lisa at the weigh-in was absurd. He's going on and on about how hard he's worked to be there and pretty much telling Lisa it was all her responsibility. Boy, she ain't here to save your ass. Don't be pontificating to her how much she needs to lose so that YOU'LL be safe. I hate when people go on and on about how the last person "won" the weigh-in. Any one of you yahoos could have gone last and it woulda been the exact same number.

I vote for Jeff to be this year's Secret Hottie. It's the eyes.

[SueR]

Oh man, I actually teared up at Nate's leaving. I hate the way they do this. Why can't the person who has the lowest percentage go home in spite of the team? I can't remember ever seeing Jillian being that emotional.
So Biingo has a fractured foot. Hmmm. Strikes me a little suspicious that he couldn't do most of the physical fitness test and won't be able to do much at home. Something about him is just a little off to me. On the other hand, I love the 2 girls. The older one talking about dating and going to prom really tore me up.
Interesting conversation Jillian had with her team. Did the producers decide she was a wee bit too harsh?
Can't decide about Pam. She has a gorgeous daughter, that's for sure. But she's really struggling with her emotions.
I like ex football player dude. I think he's going to do well.
I agree that Dolvett doesn't get equal time. We need some eye candy!

[bigskygirl]

Poor, poor Jillian, the only contestant that started kissing her butt ended up going home.

Did Jeff doing a dirty bit of cheating? Wonder what his weight loss will be next week.

Jillian's and Bob's team training together. Big surprise and it only took two weeks before it happens. I rather train with Dolvett than those two nitwits (and believe me that is saying a lot.)

I was secretly hoping the guy who was whining about losing weight for his little boy would have hit the road. Talk about beating the dead horse. Enough already.

I can not get excited over the kiddies. The one kid is already injured and it has only been two weeks. Something stinks and it ain't the litter box.

Edited by bigskygirl, Jan 7, 2013 @ 11:33 PM.

[gryphonmage]

I really like the red line. Have they said it's sticking around? I hope so. I think Jillian is pretty much being Jillian. Or as she gets called, Dr. Phillian. She gets crazy and up in their faces, and then goes and tries to talk to them about their feelings. I think it works as well as Bob and his crazy codependency issues that he inspires. Actually, I think it's better than Bob, based on her track record.

I doon't know about Dolvett. If I had to pick a trainer it would be him, but I'm ot sure how well his method works.

I do feel like Jillian has lost some dead weight, even though her team is now tiny.

[mochamajesty]

Were those CROSSFIT trainers in the first segment? Or did my eyes deceive me?

[ProfCrash]

That was crossfit and the contestants form was atrocious. I am shocked that there is not more emphasis on proper form because without it you get hurt. Gee, I wonder how the Police Man hurt his knee? hmmm Yes he is massivly overweight but he is the only one on crutches with a stress fracture in his knee.

I really do not like Cross Fit. If your form is not spot on you are going to hurt yourself and most of what is done in it is not stuff you would normally do so very few people know how to correct their form. Given that the trainers working with the contestants were allowing crappy form, it is not a surprise that someone got hurt.

Jillian toning it down was nice but her team still had problems. Yes the in your face appraoch does not work for everybody, it wouldn't work for me, but I am not sure that anything will work for Pam and Dinna (I think). They loaded Jillian's team with the people who really don't have the motivation to do what is needed to push through. That sucks. The three women on her team should have been spead out across the teams because none of them really are ready for this show. They need hand holding and ego stroking and you don't find that on Biggest Loser.

I do wish the red line was simply across the board. Forget the teams, divide the contestants into different teams each day so that they can work with one trainer that day. Use the red line for every work out and send home the person with the lowest percentage of weight lose. Or at least use a yellow line and include all the contestants. This show should be about the weight lose and not getting lucky to be on a team with people who are more motivated then others.

[question fear]

Were those CROSSFIT trainers in the first segment? Or did my eyes deceive me?

Probably. Bob has really been into Crossfit (he yaps about it on twitter all the time.)

[JLVerde]

Good god, quit shoving crossfit down out throats already. How is it fair that Dolvet and JM have smaller training areas and (appear to) work alone with their team and Bob has a huge ass area and an army of crossfit-heads doing his job for him?

Oh and Bob's whole gym intro just reinforces all the stereotypes the contestants probably have about exercise. That it's only for already fit/thin/attractive folks and you have to do crazy shit like crossfit or it's not "real" exercise. Yes, Dolvet and JM's gyms had some wacky stuff (who really has a giant tire or those sleds at their disposal?) but they were more realistic than Bob's crossfit bullshit.

I'll say it, the crossfit thing just plays perfectly into the whole cult thing Bob does with his folks.

I agree with the person who noted JM is like an emotional abuser. She screeches and belittles then all the sudden wants to hold them and caress their hair and tell them "I'm only mean to you because you need me to be mean to you." (ugh, it gives me flashbacks to my childhood--do not need)

At the cheesy challenge, Allison (aka Sami) looked good in her white pants. And while I'm mentioning folks who looked good, JM looked fabulous at the weigh in.

I'm still liking Jackson but his speechifying at the weigh in reminded me a lot of season 12's Journey. Every time that chickie was on the scale it was like she was running for re-election as President of the Fatties.

I'm officially over the whole kid thing. It's just added fluff and watching them struggle through the President's Physical Fitness test (yes, that's what it was) was just humiliating to them. Yes, yes, they signed up for the show and all that but come on. We can tell just to LOOK at those kids that they aren't going to excel let alone meet the bare minimums for that, why add insult to injury. (and for the record, I wasn't fat as a kid and I sucked at the Pres Fitness test).

The weigh in? Welcome back my beloved Red Line *pauses for applause*. But like someone else mentioned, I wish there weren't teams so Red Line could take out the weakest player PERIOD, not just the weakest on a set team. Then we wouldn't have this whole "oh, poor white team" bullshit AND it would seriously cut down on water loading and other shenanigans (and make "X lb advantages" a thing of the past--I don't care for those either).

I'm wondering if Jeff (he's the one who lost zero, right? I'm still working on names at this point) was up to some shenanigans. A zero just seems too dramatic.

[stretchess]

At the cheesy challenge, Allison (aka Sami) looked good in her white pants. And while I'm mentioning folks who looked good, JM looked fabulous at the weigh in.

I totally agree with both these points. Both women looked sexy in such totally different outfits. Jillian looked powerful and strong, yet also really soft. I would invest in both of those outfits for my own wearing!!! Good on the stylists for those choices.

[dvrsavedtv]

Jillian got stuck with a bunch of losers! The woman telling her just tell her what to do and back off, yeah like that technique would work. If it did she's be thin now. I'm sure Jillian is not the first person to tell her to work out.

I hate how they cry and moan. Like my trainer used to say to me, if you have enough air in your lunch to bitch and moan you have enough to finish the work out.

I was as fustrated as Jillian was. These woman look for excuses to not work out. It's really sad.

[Shella]

Were those CROSSFIT trainers in the first segment? Or did my eyes deceive me?

Some of them may have been, but I did notice one, and perhaps two, people in the crowd who are serious big time players in Crossfit land. First was Kristan Clever who won the 2010 Crossfit games, and has done fairly well in the last two. The other is major hottie Rich Froning. Both are affiliated with Rogue Fitness (if you notice Bob has been wearing tshirts that say "Rogue"). Google up the athletes page for Rogue and you can read more about them. There may have been other well known Crossfitters in the group, but those are the ones I recognized off the bat.

[mskelly]

Hello everyone new to the board.

I have a couple of questions I have watched this show for a few seasons but honestly only when Jillian is on.
There is no way her team could win a weigh now is there? Their are only two of them left?
Will they give her some contestants from Red and Blue?
I hope so if she is done training then I'm not sure I will continue to watch?

[pandagirl]

Every winter there are news reports of some poor guy who goes out to shovel and drops dead of a heart attack. Usually, the person is just out of shape, not massively obese. It amazes me, that with the poor health specimens the contestants are and how hard they push them from day one, this has never happened on TBL.

[ProfCrash]

The contestants are monitored so closely I would be surprised if anything happened other then fainting or stress fractures. They have shown the support staff that is on hand in both new episodes. The random people you see standing behind a contestant, there was one by Pam when she was freaking out in the gym with Jillian, are there to keep a close eye on the contestants. They wear those arm things as product placement but also to monitor what they are doing. There is a full staff of physical therapists who are there to wrap injuries, take care of icing down contestants, and probably give massages. There is a nutritional staff who teaches them how to cook for themselves and stocks the pantry.

If someone that heavy were to try and do what these people are doing on their own, there would be deaths. But the monitoring on this show has to be nuts. If people started dying or being hospitalized then there would not be a show. Pam had to sit out the challenge because of some unnamed and unseen injury. Throwing up Dude on the Red team could only walk while they tried to figure out why he couldn't hold anything down. Policeman ended up in crutches due to a stress fracture in his knee. They know these things because they monitor the contestants so carefully.

[Lamb18]

There is no way her team could win a weigh now is there? Their are only two of them left?

Her could win a weigh-in because it is based on percentage of weight lost, not totaly amount of pounds. For example, let's say Jillian's team weighs 400 pounds total and between them they lost 20 pounds for 5%. Now all the other teams have to lose at least 5% of their total weight to beat Jillian's team. That one 400-pound guy - 20 pounds is 5% of just his weight, plus the rest of the team needs to average at least 5%. Her team might have it a little easier if the real heavy guys don't pull the big numbers. I think the women are pulling better percentages than the men.

[lu1wml]

Jillian being nice was scary. You just know they're going pay for that later.

And if they have a red line, make it absolute, not depending on which team loses.

Next week, I'd like them to focus on other people. I'm really tired of the white team, and Jackson.

[auntie thesis]

Well, so continues the slaughter of Jillian's white team, it seems.

A walk-off plus the eliminations of the two biggest guys seems to have signed a death warrant for white. Now it's down to the two smallest women, one of whom is middle aged and in all likelihood, will hit a weight wall in upcoming weeks...*yawn*.

I thought it was bullshit that Blue Eyes didn't go home last night. I was under the impression that the red line was a RED LINE...as in, whomever loses the least, get to steppin'...but no....It was a team thing. White team was up against the wall from the start. Of course, Blue Eyes had his drah-ma and Bob did his ZOMG! face to make sure that we all knew just how super-life-or-death serious TBL eliminations are. I was half-hoping that white team would pull a win out of their asses just so Bob's blue cult would have to eliminate one of their precious team members.

Ah I'm bitter. I hate the Bob-worship. Not looking forward to a season of ass-kissing, whining, and bowing down to the All-mighty Bob Harper...then again, what would TBL be without Mr. Crossfit himself?

Bob's whole gym intro just reinforces all the stereotypes the contestants probably have about exercise. That it's only for already fit/thin/attractive folks and you have to do crazy shit like crossfit or it's not "real" exercise.

ITA. Crossfit is cool if you're into it or whatever, but holding it up as the ideal for a bunch of people who lose their breath walking across the courtyard/outdoor gym is just ludicrous. I've read stories about people who have gone from fatass to crossfitter and they are inspirational...but they are very miniscule minority. Crossfit is not a goal for most people, even those that are in shape. It is very extreme.

The one kid is already injured and it has only been two weeks. Something stinks and it ain't the litter box.

Biingo hurt his foot playing basketball? My ass. TPTB showed footage of Biingo playing b-ball in the intro packages on the season opener. Basically, he was standing around, pretending to block shots and dribble. Kid ain't tall enough to hold his own on the court even if he was in good shape, imo.

[IzzleZizzle]

I forgot one last thing - that whole load of crap that came out of Nate's mouth that now he was "worthy" to ask his girlfriend to marry him? Sweetheart, let me tell you something. She was with you before BL. Obviously it didn't matter so much to her, otherwise she would have dumped you. So what is this "worthy" crap?

Thanks, BL, for reinforcing the idea that fat people aren't "worthy" of things in life. Jerks.

[lambie]

Were those CROSSFIT trainers in the first segment? Or did my eyes deceive me?

The ones I saw right away were Rich Froning, Jason Khalipa, Kristan Clever, and Rebecca Voight. I think Camille Leblanc was in there too.

I don't get the whole "Bob is going to bring all his CrossFit buddies -- the best in the world -- and do CrossFit WODs but we're going to pretend it's not CrossFit." I know BL is there to make money above all else and so is Bob Harper but if you're going to use CrossFit as a platform for training then do it right. Maybe Reebok wasn't interested (Rogue, the major CrossFit equipment supplier is prominently featured though) but I think half-assing it gives the wrong impression of CrossFit and perpetuates the idea that it's either too hard for the new athlete or it's unsafe.

[cosmic1]

I am so glad that Jillian is back; I only hope TPTB didn't set up her to be eliminated within the first month as payback for her leaving the show a couple of times already. Bob is teacher's pet in that regard.

I was hoping that with Nikki walking out, that they would have kept everyone the first week. I think Jillian is going to be beside herself with those two.

[bendercat]

Jillian - they are dropping like flies!

Jackson reminds me of Arthur from a couple of seasons ago. He has that "everyone take care of me - I can't do it alone" tone. (my opinion)

Football guy - Jeff? will probably go far, unless he has a bad week or someone eliminates him as competition.

I'm finding Pam to be annoying and likable at the same time. We'll see.

[mythoughtis]

The man on the blue team that lost 0? That is not all that surprising, I believe he lost 29 pounds the first week and was probably the top weight loser for week 1. Week 2 is notorious for small weight loss, especially from the ones who lost big the first week.

This week, the bigger losers were the ones who were the lower losers last week... the really big guy with the small baby didn't lose enough last week for his weight, this week he compensated for that.

Seriously, if Jillian had just let the first girl weigh in last week and be sent home by the red line, TC could have stayed a second week. He and Nate would have bonded and competed, and both would have lost more this week. Then white team might not have lost this one. I like Jillian but week 1 is too soon to send whiners running for the door... we've seen week 1 whiners do turnarounds later in the season before.

[camom]

No matter what, Jillian always makes it all about HER.

[LoneHaranguer]

The blue team guy with zero pounds lost should have gone home. At least the white team guy lost something,

As long as the show insists on rounding everybody's weight to a whole pound, when the team percentages are that close, it should be called a tie and the worst of the two (or three?) be sent home. This kind of outcome usually bugs me, but I think there's some karmic justice in seeing Jillian lose over half her team in the first two episodes. I hope nobody feels a need to rebalance the teams.

Bob's whole gym intro just reinforces all the stereotypes the contestants probably have about exercise. That it's only for already fit/thin/attractive folks and you have to do crazy shit like crossfit or it's not "real" exercise.

Bob needs to find "friends" with more respect for the equipment; you don't just step away from a barbell and let it crash to the ground.