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[urlittledogtoo]

A brand new show from ID:

Wives with Knives features gripping stories of women who fight at close range. Some women endured years of sexual, emotional, and physical abuse before fighting back. Others were motivated by greed and jealousy. Some of the victims died and others lived to testify against their attackers. Through personal accounts from the actual women who committed the crimes, as well as the victims themselves, each episode reveals the traumatic events that led to the pair's disturbing demise. All-New Series Premieres Friday, November 23 at 10 PM E/P.

http://investigation.discovery.com/tv-shows/wives-with-knives/about-this-show/about-wives-with-knives.htm

This one is a little different in that the killer to be is interviewed as is the killed to be - meaning they didn't actually succeed in their attempted murder. Getting the victim's point of view is a novel twist - and they usually tell their side with an ironic sense of humor that is kind of endearing. I mean, they aren't happy they were targeted and usually never want to see their significant other again, but you can tell they've had some time to process the whole thing and settle with it.

The episode that prompted me to post was Sarah Shackelford. What an amazing sad sack of a woman she is. She is so passive and thoughtless in her crimes; she acts impulsively, then regrets it and tries to undo it, then gets upset and starts all over again with the crime. Her husband is very lucky she is so inept.

What got to me is she drugged him 'to make him go to sleep'. Then at the last minute threw in rat poison 'to make him stop yelling at her forever'. And then when he got really sick she changed her mind and took him to the hospital. But the doctors thought he had food poisoning and once he was stable wanted to send him home and she panicked because she still wanted some alone time so she privately told the doctors he was actually suicidal so they'd hold him for the weekend in the psych ward for observation. He, completely oblivious to all of her machinations if you can call her inept impulsivity 'machinations', is alarmed and furious that he is being held in the psych ward but the doctors are convinced he is suicidal. That made me laugh. Poor man. Then she calls him from home to tell him she is leaving him, and he breaks down and urges her not to leave, that he'll change and they can go to counseling. Now, she has just tried to kill him and had him locked in the psych ward but she lets herself be convinced to 'try' to save the marriage. He comes home from the hospital all ready to start over and she immediately regrets not killing him so she poisons him again! This time he falls alseep and she, afraid he isn't going to actually die decides to try to stab him while he is passed out on the sofa. And so forth.... She just cannot make a decision and stick to it to save her life. Or end his. And she tells her sorry tale with such a depressed sorry sad sack voice. I'd feel sorry for her if she wasn't such a dangerous - if stupid and indecisive - person.

So far I'm really enjoying the show. For some reason all episodes of the second episode play with a muted sound so I can't watch it which is very aggravating. I have no idea if that's on their end or mine but none of the other episodes or any other shows have that issue so I think it is on the ID end of it. I think it was called 'Fourth Time's the Charm'. Did anyone have that problem with that episode?

Edited by urlittledogtoo, Dec 22, 2012 @ 1:34 AM.

[Neeney]

There was one episode where the victim was actually killed.

And, yes, this show is turning out to be better than I expected it to be.

[aliyameadow]

Well, I see I wasn't watching this alone. I must have zone at the end of the Sarah Shackleford episode. Wasn't her husband the one with the knife in the head? That was far out! It looked like she was in jail clothes as she told her story, but I missed how long a prison term she rec'd. I hope it was a good long term.

[urlittledogtoo]

Yep, she wasn't sure the pills would kill him so she went back - and with their son in the car waiting, unknowing - and stabbed him in the temple with his own knife while he was sleeping on the sofa. Then she freaked out and ran out of the house and drove to her neighbor's house, son still with her, and called 911 saying she found her husband dead and some 'black man' standing over him and to come quickly. Meanwhile, husband wakes up, has a knife sticking out of his head and his cell phone gone (she took it) and stumbles out of the house to the neighbors and starts screaming at her for trying to kill him while she's still on the phone with 911 and looking like a zombie had just accosted her. All in front of their about-ten year old kid. He lived to divorce her and she got twelve or fifteen years in prison for attempted murder I believe.

She was the saddest hound dog in the kennel, that's for sure. After having watched the entire episode I wasn't even convinced her husband was all that bad a guy. She seemed like a complete loser who blew whichever way was easiest all the time. She popped out babies and gave them away, she used drugs, she stole from her employer on impulse then admitted it because she couldn't maintain the lie for more than a day and got probation for it. She took offense at most everything he did even though he didn't really do anything to her except not mention previous marriages and have 'rumors' of him cheating in the past. She just seemed kind of slow and reactionary and he came off as a little bit of a hothead who really did love her and want to be with her but damn, if I was married to that woman I'd be a little testy sometimes too. She'd try the patience of a saint. I'm glad she's in jail. I wish they'd keep her longer because that kind of inept violent reactionism is dangerous in a stupid person. She turns on a dime and never really gets how it really is all her fault how she responds to things, not others' faults for not making her life easier for her.

She had beautiful hair though. I found the gorgeous color kind of distracting during her interviews.

I honestly thought this show would be terrible but it is turning out to be much more enjoyable than I anticipated also. I actually look forward to it each week.

Edited by urlittledogtoo, Dec 23, 2012 @ 6:42 PM.

[EMTQueen]

I saw the Sarah Shackleford episode, as well. What a sorry sack of nothing she is. I can't muster up any sympathy for her because she's been screwing up her life since the first time she got knocked up at 15. Her husband helped her through the first bout of addiction and then he lost the desire to keep cleaning up after her when she continually messed up. Stealing a $50K ring and then pawning it for $300? He had a right to lose it with her. He wasn't taking her son from her; he was making plans for when she was going to be jailed for theft and being the sole caregiver for the boy. In any other circumstance I would say he was being emotionally abusive, but telling somebody that they're a fuck-up when they actually are a fuck-up isn't abuse.

She wanted to present herself as somebody noble when she had an attack of conscience and that she did everything in order to keep her son, but that doesn't negate her actions and only presents her as wishy-washy. If you're going to do it, see it through. Don't bail out at the last minute. And surprise surprise, her actions resulted in losing her son. By the time she's released, her son will be over 18 and it'll be completely up to him whether he wants to be in contact with his mother.

[urlittledogtoo]

I said she got probation for the theft but actually she was out on bail for that when she stuck the knife in his head. I think her final sentence included the theft and the attempted murder, not just the attempted murder. And yeah, she wanted people to feel for her, to understand how she just was too conscience-stricken to go through with things or to maintain her lies over time but really she was just a passive wishy-washy person who took no responsibility for her decisions or her life. I felt terrible for her son, to have to witness all of that. Can you imagine having her for a mother?

[aliyameadow]

Thanks for the info. I also had the feeling that the husband was not a terrible person and that Sarah was a waste of DNA. She had a chance to have a regular life and she blew it.

[Patsy Stoned]

Didn't this show do an episode on th stripper who falsely accused the Duke students of a gang rape and totally gloss that over? Or am I mis-remembering? I believe her name was something like Crystal Mangum ir something?

[urlittledogtoo]

Didn't this show do an episode on th stripper who falsely accused the Duke students of a gang rape and totally gloss that over? Or am I mis-remembering? I believe her name was something like Crystal Mangum ir something?

I think this was the show that had her on but they didn't gloss it over they just didn't name the actual school. They spent some time on the subject actually because she cited it as a reason she lost hope, when she wasn't believed and was attacked over the rape allegation. I actually kind of liked her, aside from her lifestyle and her violence against her husband of course.

[Patsy Stoned]

I think this was the show that had her on but they didn't gloss it over they just didn't name the actual school. They spent some time on the subject actually because she cited it as a reason she lost hope, when she wasn't believed and was attacked over the rape allegation. I actually kind of liked her, aside from her lifestyle and her violence against her husband of course.

Thnks, I watched this at night and was drowsey and drifting in and out of sleep and wasn't sure if it was the same person I was thinking of.

[KarenESP]

The Sarah Show- Unbelievable!! She was sad and dumb as a rock. My feeling about the husband though, I bet he was an SOB and I bet he did run his mouth endlessly and drive his wife who was already on the border of low to barely medium intelligence level right down to dumb and hopeless as a rock. Knife in the head THE Funniest Thing ever that I've seen on an investigation show. I found the whole thing both unbelieavable but very sad - especially when Sarah said once jailed, "I'm finally free." Unforgettable show, that's for sure. But when husband made his admission that everything will change if she stays with him, the most telling thing about the show.

[ncw12371]

A brand new show from ID:





This one is a little different in that the killer to be is interviewed as is the killed to be - meaning they didn't actually succeed in their attempted murder. Getting the victim's point of view is a novel twist - and they usually tell their side with an ironic sense of humor that is kind of endearing. I mean, they aren't happy they were targeted and usually never want to see their significant other again, but you can tell they've had some time to process the whole thing and settle with it.

The episode that prompted me to post was Sarah Shackelford. What an amazing sad sack of a woman she is. She is so passive and thoughtless in her crimes; she acts impulsively, then regrets it and tries to undo it, then gets upset and starts all over again with the crime. Her husband is very lucky she is so inept.

What got to me is she drugged him 'to make him go to sleep'. Then at the last minute threw in rat poison 'to make him stop yelling at her forever'. And then when he got really sick she changed her mind and took him to the hospital. But the doctors thought he had food poisoning and once he was stable wanted to send him home and she panicked because she still wanted some alone time so she privately told the doctors he was actually suicidal so they'd hold him for the weekend in the psych ward for observation. He, completely oblivious to all of her machinations if you can call her inept impulsivity 'machinations', is alarmed and furious that he is being held in the psych ward but the doctors are convinced he is suicidal. That made me laugh. Poor man. Then she calls him from home to tell him she is leaving him, and he breaks down and urges her not to leave, that he'll change and they can go to counseling. Now, she has just tried to kill him and had him locked in the psych ward but she lets herself be convinced to 'try' to save the marriage. He comes home from the hospital all ready to start over and she immediately regrets not killing him so she poisons him again! This time he falls alseep and she, afraid he isn't going to actually die decides to try to stab him while he is passed out on the sofa. And so forth.... She just cannot make a decision and stick to it to save her life. Or end his. And she tells her sorry tale with such a depressed sorry sad sack voice. I'd feel sorry for her if she wasn't such a dangerous - if stupid and indecisive - person.

So far I'm really enjoying the show. For some reason all episodes of the second episode play with a muted sound so I can't watch it which is very aggravating. I have no idea if that's on their end or mine but none of the other episodes or any other shows have that issue so I think it is on the ID end of it. I think it was called 'Fourth Time's the Charm'. Did anyone have that problem with that episode?

Sarah is a complete loser, and lucky Tommy put up with her bs as long as he did. She hasn't taken responsibility for anything since she got pregnant at 15, prison is exactly where she should be. Don't like Tommy, Sarah, then leave him! And the talking head blonde making excuses for her and cajoling her, give me a break. Sarah is a user, a loser, an addict, a thief, a liar and a coward. Truly a waste of space, feel bad for her kids and ex husband, not her.