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Posted Jan 7, 2013 @ 12:02 AM

I was going to wait to watch this on TV but I gave in and watched it online instead. I liked it! It was actually better than a lot of the schlock currently airing on TV. It was part cop show and part soap opera. It did seem to move fast but I think it's just a sign of the times with new shows. Networks don't give new shows time to find an audience anymore, so they just have to dive in and get to the point of the series. The lead cop girl has 2 hot men to choose from. The gorgeous white dude who looks like a male model, and the sexy black dude who's nicely bowlegged (LOVE bowlegged men). Julian crying at the end has to be a red herring, and obviously we're supposed to think that he had a hand in Vivian's death. Future episodes also look good and the pilot did more than enough to bring me back.

Edited by Chancellor, Jan 7, 2013 @ 12:04 AM.


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Posted Jan 7, 2013 @ 8:50 AM

Saw it On Demand last night. I guess I could I waited til tonight but I was bored with nothing to watch haha. Thought it was good, have seen the Hot brother in a few shows this last year, he is quite gorgeous. I love Victor Garber so it was great to see him and also Tate Donovan. I have no idea who the killer could be, but I do not think it's Hot brother, that was way to obvious. He might of seen her before and they got into a fight but I do not think he killed her. The lead girl was good, it'll be interesting to see how they make this into a log lasting series if It does do well.

Edited by SiobhanJW, Jan 7, 2013 @ 8:51 AM.


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Posted Jan 7, 2013 @ 10:24 AM

Deception: The Other Megan With Porn Star Name & Look.

This is my problem with this show. Megan Good has just been so over-the-top sexy for so long it's gonna be hard buying her as a cop.

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Posted Jan 7, 2013 @ 10:34 PM

Wow...just so many pretty people on this show. Liking the premise so far. Looking forward to the next episode. I hope they do like DashDixon said above and don't muck it up like they did with The Killing.

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Posted Jan 7, 2013 @ 10:44 PM

Wes Brown-Julian..damn
Tate Donovan-Edward
Victor Garbro-Robert
Laz-Will

These right here are enough to keep me tuned it so that I can make my mind up. And is there anyone in the family that didn't know about Jr and Joanna. Oh and sorry but it feels like the FBI dude is using Joanna for a case and to get back in her pants.

But I'll tune in next week to see what happens

Edited by zoneout, Jan 7, 2013 @ 10:53 PM.


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Posted Jan 7, 2013 @ 11:11 PM

I just watched. I kind of liked it even though my Mondays are totally packed as it is. But they sucked me in. I figured that Mia was Vivian's daughter when Joanna found the picture in the yearbook. I'm just worried over who the father is? I can easily see it being her father who molested her or the creepy older brother (Tate Donovan you used to be so nice!).

Joanna and Julian hit all my shipping buttons but I could do without the triangle with the ex-partner. Either put her with one or the other but don't do a triangle.

ETA, I know it wouldn't make good tv but every time Joanna called in, I kept wondering why she wasn't texting? Because seriously how many times can we have a scene where someone almost catches her making a phone call to the ex-partner?

I also hope they ditch the wire after the reporter was able to find so easily by accident.

Edited by TiffanyNichelle, Jan 7, 2013 @ 11:17 PM.


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Posted Jan 7, 2013 @ 11:34 PM

If Vivian was molested, maybe it was by Julian. The way Vivian was shouting at Joanna in the flashback and bout how Julian was using Joanna, and how he would use her and then be done with her sounded like she could have been speaking from personal experience..with Julian. OR she could just be speaking about guys in general.

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Posted Jan 7, 2013 @ 11:36 PM

I enjoyed it. I am watching this the rest of the season.

I already know Victor Garber can play a badass but I didn't know he could play nice and sweet too. Now, I just thinks he has the hots for Joanna.

I was confused that neither Julian nor Garber's character asked about her mom too. I hope that the scene was just edited out due to length.

The wife seems awfully familiar to me but when I scanned her IMDB page, none of her credits seemed recognizable to me.

Maybe I was still ruminating over last night's episode of Revenge, but Marin Hinkle (who I loved back in her Once and Again days) played the character like an abused wife. I think Tate Donovan's character is not as bad as he seems.

When Joanna was watching the sex tape (BTW, why was she watching it in the middle of the house--it wasn't even in her private bedroom, it seemed like a hallway where anyone could overhear), the guy looked like Julian. I guess it's not supposed to be him, but the show could've hired someone more distinctive.

Edited by memememe76, Jan 7, 2013 @ 11:38 PM.


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Posted Jan 7, 2013 @ 11:42 PM

I thought it was Julian too, but since Joanna didn't react as if it was I guessed it wasn't.

Edited by heyitsme87, Jan 8, 2013 @ 12:01 AM.


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Posted Jan 7, 2013 @ 11:50 PM

Anyone else have a sneaking suspicion that Joanna ends up having a thing with the older Tate Donovan brother at some point? It would be very Sabrina.

There was quite by-the-numbers but it's getting a Season Pass because I love me some trashy nighttime rich people soap.

Anyone else have a sneaking suspicion that Joanna ends up having a thing with the older Tate Donovan brother at some point? It would be very Sabrina.

There was quite by-the-numbers but it's getting a Season Pass because I love me some trashy nighttime rich people soap.

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Posted Jan 8, 2013 @ 12:23 AM

I was wondering why the police weren't all over that sex tape, and finding out who the guy was. Why would Vivian hide a sex video on the grounds, anyway? Rich socialites should keep their sex tapes indoors, I think.

I didn't mind the lead actress but sometimes she looked so much like Kerry Washington I was distracted. I also thought they should've just used the adult actresses as teens. The teen Joanna didn't look much like the adult one to me.

The Tate Donovan character is clearly a red herring. So it might be great if it wound up he was the killer.

I hope it's not like The Killing and they drag out the whodunit for two seasons.

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Posted Jan 8, 2013 @ 12:27 AM

Anyone else have a sneaking suspicion that Joanna ends up having a thing with the older Tate Donovan brother at some point? It would be very Sabrina.

I'd be more than okay with this. I'm just not seeing much of a connection between Meagan and Wes (and Laz comes off more like a big brother than former lover). I see two pretty people...being pretty together. Maybe I'm just spoiled by Kerry Washington and Tony Goldwyn. I thought the scene between Tate and Meagan, despite the ominous nature of it, felt more palpable. Tate's character seems to be set up as a jerk from the outset. Shame, that.

As for the mystery, I suspect that some other character that we've not been introduced to yet will be the killer or be a major connection to the killer. Any of the family members, specifically the men, seem too obvious. Though, there is the stepmom...

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Posted Jan 8, 2013 @ 12:28 AM

This reminded me a lot of that Fox show "Pasadena" from like 10 years ago. One big mystery, with several smaller ones and a "who's the daddy" subplot. I don't see how this show can go past one season without it turning into a hot mess. (I struggled to make it through season 2 of Veronica Mars).

That said, I'll stick with it. It's not as well written or "tight" as I'd like, and while I like Meagan Goode, I'm not sure of her ability to carry the show. Thankfully, there are better actors surrounding her. Hopefully, they'll air at least a whole season, so I don't accidentally stumble into the last few episodes during a SoapNet marathon 5 years after cancellation (yep, still bitter about Pasadena).

So regarding Mia's parentage,
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Edited by anadyr21, Jan 8, 2013 @ 12:29 AM.


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Posted Jan 8, 2013 @ 12:29 AM

I also thought they should've just used the adult actresses as teens. The teen Joanna didn't look much like the adult one to me.


Every time they showed the teenage version of the characters I laughed because they didn't look anything lie the adults.

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Posted Jan 8, 2013 @ 1:57 AM

I didn't get an incest vibe. Pure specualtion on my part due to a look behind the scenes on demand.
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This reminded me a lot of that Fox show "Pasadena" from like 10 years ago. One big mystery, with several smaller ones and a "who's the daddy" subplot. I don't see how this show can go past one season without it turning into a hot mess. (I struggled to make it through season 2 of Veronica Mars).

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Producers have already stated that the killer will be revealed in season 1. Season 2 will be about proving that this person did it. I'm going to take them at their word despite being burned by The Killing. I didn't bother to tune in for season 2 after they didn't reveal the killer like they said they would at the end of season 1.

Edited by Mikita, Jan 8, 2013 @ 1:58 AM.


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Posted Jan 8, 2013 @ 1:59 AM

I thought I was going to hate this, but I actually liked it. I think Meagan Good is fine. In general the cast is better than the writing, but if i can get past the idea that the family wouldn't know she's a cop, and the stupidity of her wearing a wire even after it was discovered once, I can probably get over whatever else they throw at us in the next few episodes.

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Posted Jan 8, 2013 @ 2:19 AM

Is Sophia supposed to be Mia's mother, at least to the public eye? She's so obviously a nasty piece of work, can't they tone her down a bit?

I was disappointed they killed off Remy, he had potential. And he could act.

It can't be either brother as the killer, Edward is much too creepy and obvious, and Julian dropped the ring that made the mark on Vivian's face into the water.

Why can't they find an actress of at least the right age to play 15-year-old Mia, instead of 22-year-old Ella Rae Peck?

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Posted Jan 8, 2013 @ 3:54 AM

I liked it and was pleasantly surprised to see Marin Hinkle there as Edward's wife. She said she was taking the kids and leaving; does that mean her character is not going to continue beyond the pilot? I hope not. I do wonder why Vivian called her before she died.

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Posted Jan 8, 2013 @ 4:16 AM

Stuff like how Meagan Good's character was seemingly able to walk straight into the house


I just figured a house like that would have a gate you'd have to get passed first-- hence the walking straight in. One glaring item left hanging is what did Joanna tell SFPD? Is she supposed to be on leave? I don't typically let these types of errors bother me but since one is my hometown and the other is my city of residence it stuck out.

I liked it. There's A LOT of pretty people; it seems to be a pretty solid procedural and it's soapy deliciousness. Since my soapy treat Revenge is rapidly going downhill I'll get my soap fix from this.

I agree with whoever above said they need to step up the tech. She should be texting and have a small undetectable recording device. I'm not looking for James Bond caliber but a microphone taped to the bra--come on the FBI has a better budget than that.

Producers have already stated that the killer will be revealed in season 1. Season 2 will be about proving that this person did it. I'm going to take them at their word despite being burned by The Killing. I didn't bother to tune in for season 2 after they didn't reveal the killer like they said they would at the end of season 1.

Right there with you Mikita.

Edited by ThomasAAnderson, Jan 8, 2013 @ 4:21 AM.


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Posted Jan 8, 2013 @ 10:31 AM

So I think the stepmother is up to her eyes in this. I rewatched the episode and noticed that Robert calls the Sophia and tells her that Vivian has died of an overdose, then Sophia calls Julian and tells him that Vivian died of an overdose in some motel room. All Robert said was that she had od'ed, he didn't mention where the police had found Vivian. So how did Sophia know? Unless she was involved somehow. Or the show is already fucking up wrt continuity.

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Posted Jan 8, 2013 @ 11:00 AM

Probably a mistake. One thing they really effed up on was killing the reporter, he could have been a great help for Joanna to have when she can't come in contact with her partner or any other FBI official.

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Posted Jan 8, 2013 @ 11:38 AM

This show is...just.not.good.

A huge splash of "Revenge" mixed in with some elements of "Twin Peaks".

Script was very tame and seemed like it was written by a student. And I don't think Meagan Good as the acting chops to take this role (unlike Emily Van Camp who really surprised everyone with how well she's been acting on Revenge).

Btw, I'm calling Victor Garber as Meagan Good's father.

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Posted Jan 8, 2013 @ 12:28 PM

Why can't they find an actress of at least the right age to play 15-year-old Mia, instead of 22-year-old Ella Rae Peck?

I was stunned to find out Mia was supposed to be 15. I knew where it was going as soon as the videotape reveal of the initial pregnancy came up, but yeah. Unless Mia is supposed to be "Deception"'s answer to Lindsay, girlfriend does not look 15.

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Posted Jan 8, 2013 @ 12:39 PM

djsunyc, I'm assuming that you meant Robert will later be revealed as Joanna's father? It would be a shocking, if not typical soap twist. But it would also open the door to incest having taken place (if it hasn't happened already with Vivian and a member of the family) because that would mean Joanna and Julian are half-siblings, and they dated when they were younger. YIKES!

Edited by Chancellor, Jan 8, 2013 @ 12:43 PM.


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Posted Jan 8, 2013 @ 12:44 PM

Btw, I'm calling Victor Garber as Meagan Good's father.

I hope not if she was sleeping with Julian when they were teenagers.

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Posted Jan 8, 2013 @ 2:50 PM

I liked it. I liked Meagan Good and this is a nice change because I was sick and tired of her years of typecasting. Anybody remember Cousin Skeeter though? I only think it's like Revenge in that there are rich people doing really shady mess. Which aren't wealthy families always doing that stuff on any show? NBC definitely could have snatched that idea up from ABC (and probably did), but I don't think they are similar enough. Emanda generally knows everything about the people who ruined her life (while they are mostly in the dark) and is actively seeking "revenge" and Joanna is mostly in the dark and is likely putting herself in serious danger just to discover the truth. I also see more potential for Joanna to become another victim of the family's machinations than Emanda had on Revenge (unlike her father). I honestly didn't draw that many comparisons and I am surprised that so many people have.

Yeah. Wes Brown (Julian) also played a serial killer on Criminal Minds. My mom commented that he is handsome and I said yes, it's much easier to swallow when he's not actively taking women out in a sickening way. At least not that we are aware.

Tate Donovan is terrifying. I always think of him as Jimmy from The O.C. or Tom from Damages so this is disconcerting. Ella Rae Peck...there was a reference to her being on this show in an episode of Gossip Girl. I usually like Laz Alonso, but I already find myself wanting his character to just be erased and have her deal with Sgt. Batista and that other white cop whose name escapes me. I already miss Remy. He and Joanna had fun chemistry.

Agreed about the flashbacks. The younger Joanna was several shades darker than Meagan Good. That in and of itself was pretty ridiculous without even taking into account any other features.

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Posted Jan 8, 2013 @ 3:04 PM

I do understand the comparisons to Revenge, just wish this show was one-tenth as good. The holes in the plot are so distracting. Others have mentioned a few of these upthread, but put them together: the family has a multi-zillion-dollar corporation and so has an HR department, a legal department, and a security department, but no one to run a simple Google search on a woman whom they haven't seen in 17 years? At a time when their family members must obviously be under scrutiny for this death? Come on, find me a 10-year-old who doesn't know that when someone dies mysteriously, the police first examine the family. No security in a billionaire's home, so the public can just stroll on in? A detective just happens to be standing in a shed when a secret conversation crops up in the driveway? An FBI agent with clip-on wires clamped to her bra, in this century? A 15-year-old who looks like she needs botox, because there are no talented teens in Hollywood? No staff to notice that the houseguest is on the roof? Emanda would have caught on to the secret baby 17 years ago and if she hadn't, she certainly wouldn't need a house to fall on her to figure it out now.

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Posted Jan 8, 2013 @ 3:12 PM

...but no one to run a simple Google search on a woman whom they haven't seen in 17 years?


I want to assume that since Joanna decided to work with the FBI in this undercover investigation, they created a background for her that matched the story she told the family seeing they have the resources and techs (again assuming) that are able to do so effectively...not to mention expectedly.

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Posted Jan 8, 2013 @ 3:20 PM

I want to assume that since Joanna decided to work with the FBI in this undercover investigation, they created a background for her that matched the story she told the family seeing they have the resources and techs (again assuming) that are able to do so effectively...not to mention expectedly.


Yeah. I remember Joanna bringing up the fact that she is a cop, and that the family would figure that out, to the ex and he said that they would hide the fact that she was a cop and create a new background for her.

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Posted Jan 8, 2013 @ 6:21 PM

A detective just happens to be standing in a shed when a secret conversation crops up in the driveway? An FBI agent with clip-on wires clamped to her bra, in this century? A 15-year-old who looks like she needs botox, because there are no talented teens in Hollywood? No staff to notice that the houseguest is on the roof? Emanda would have caught on to the secret baby 17 years ago and if she hadn't, she certainly wouldn't need a house to fall on her to figure it out now.


I can't really explain why Joanna didn't get to the Mia conclusion until the end of the episode. I think it's probably something close to that when I was 15, I didn't always assume any female who was vomiting was pregnant, but as a television viewer that's usually the case. Joanna hasn't seen or talked to these people for about 15 years, right? She has no idea what the hell they've been doing. It does stretch that Papa Bowers would just be like yeah, come be a surrogate for our daughter after she died like yesterday, but this is television. No one recognized Emily Thorne as Amanda Clarke and that dog lived way too long. I'm fine with it.

I agree about the casting of teenagers. It's annoying. And there does seem to be a lack of staff in that huge house.

About her standing in the shed, I'm pretty sure she heard arguing from whatever room she was in and went downstairs to see what was going on.