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[krizmic]

As the rest of the doctors prepare for Bailey's wedding, Richard helps her through a bout of pre-wedding jitters. Meanwhile, Lizzie butts heads with Meredith, and Callie and Jackson try to convince Derek to participate in a risky surgery that could fix his hand.

Loved the Callie/Arizona scenes. Sara and Jessica are handling this s/l beautifully.

Loved the Meredith/Lizzie scene at the end. Neve Campbell is a great fit for Derek's sister. I thought we MIGHT get a little discussion about Lexie/losing a sister, but no. God forbid we have Meredith show emotion about that. She was so distant and detached at the ultrasound (understandably). It was great to see her carrying the picture to the wedding, and it was a nice moment for these 2 characters.

Loved seeing Adele again, though the future does not look bright.

I don't care about interns.

[Erratic]

While the doctors prepare for Bailey's wedding, Richard helps her with her anxiety; Lizzie and Meredith butt heads; Callie and Jackson try to get Derek to submit to a risky surgery for his hand.

I liked it. It wasn't anything mind-blowing, certainly not one of my favorites from all nine seasons, (like Shonda!), but I liked it.

Lizzie was right, and not at all bitchy like they hinted at.

Thank god Callie finally said something to Arizona. It's a start. A slow, overdue start.

Owen and Cristina- I'll hold off until I see where it's going this time.

Alex and Jo. Meh.

Adele!!!

Edited by Erratic, Dec 13, 2012 @ 10:17 PM.

[calidub]

I knew we'd end with Meredith and Lizzie bonding and I had hoped it'd be over the sonogram. Loved everything about that scene! But most importantly: 1) It made me all goopy that no matter how nervous (and heartbreaking!) Meredith is about this baby, she's still carrying the sonogram with her. 2) I love that she told her sister-in-law before Cristina. She's finally putting her family first! Derek's right. "Things are different now." HALLE-FREAKIN'-LUJAH.

I want Lizzie to stay forever. Or to at least return again this season. I was hoping we'd get a scene with her and Zola. I miss that peanut. We haven't seen her in weeks!

Please stop trying to shove these interns down my throat. Well, just Jo really. Shane and Heather and Stephanie can stay.

Is it just me, or does this show take more frequent commercial breaks than any other? Maybe it's just because I watch it live, but I swear it feels like we get 3 minutes of episode and then 5 minutes of commercials.

[NYluv]

Neve Campbell has been one of my girls since PO5, and I really love her as Lizzie. Is it too much to hope that there will one day be a Shepherd family reunion? (answer: yes) That would be all kinds of great tv.

"Just put on a dress and don't sit down." I love this Bailey. Sassy-Bailey.

I'm glad that Cristina now knows the (big) reason why Owen asked for a divorce.

Alex and Jo, still don't see it. (and never will)

Intern Stephanie's comments on Jackson's eyes = me.

Sara Ramirez really does have chemistry with everyone. Loved Callie's moments with Bailey. Loved her being sweet with Arizona and then just letting all of her frustrations out at the end. And I especially loved her little moment with Derek in the OR. I am so down with a Callie/Derek friendship - can not get enough.

Poor poor poor Adele :( . But would it have hurt Bailey (because I can see Richard being too preoccupied) to call Ben or her mom, cousin, or any of her bridesmaids to give them a head's up about what's going on? At least make the intern do it once you get to the hospital.

I thought it was a strong episode to finish out the fall. :)

[Sunshine55]

Pretty good episode, I thought. I agree with lots that calidub said, especially that Jo is annoying and there are an insane number of commercials.
I hadn't seen much of Neve Campbell's work, but I thought she was awesome! They need to make her a regular, or at least a frequent visitor. The Lizzie/Meredith scenes were the highlight for me. Aad I also wish there'd been a little more discussion of Lexie. Would've been nice if they'd mentioned Sloan too; I wonder if Lizzie slept with him as well. I remember the episode when he was talking about dating Lexie and said "I can't sleep with any more of his sisters."
I do like Shane and Stephanie; they've both grown on me in recent weeks. Shane's comment about Jackson's "limpid green eyes" made me laugh, as did Stephanie's comment about dancing to Barry White.
Can't believe Bailey was about to treat Adele while still wearing a wedding gown AND veil! I'm not very optimistic about Adele's chances, but I hope she makes it. Wish someone had thought to let the groom (and everyone else) know what was going on, but I wonder if this is the beginning of the end for Bailey and Ben.
As freaked as she was, it really seemed like a little more than cold feet to me.
And on a completely shallow note, everyone looked spectacular in their wedding clothes. And of course, Jackson, Alex and Ben were smokin' hot, as usual.

[NYluv]

woopsie, double-post.

Edited by NYluv, Dec 13, 2012 @ 10:41 PM.

[Bleeding Love]

If Alex and Jo are supposed to end up together, the writers probably should stop writing her as a whiny little brat. Running to tattle to Arizona about Alex letting her do something in a surgery she wasn't ready for and messed up? Take responsibility for your mistakes, woman.

[harkiv]

Loved almost everything about this episode. Bad first- Alex/Jo. Terrible pairing.

I wish Lizzie would stay. Her scenes with Derek and Meredith were great. Really enjoyed all the Callie/Arizona scenes. Alex/Arizona still my favorite work duo. Bailey was old Bailey again. So wonderful.

[LL1981]

Love PD, hate the mumbling...

Can anyone help me out and tell me what he said just before Meredith left the room in that last scene?

[BooksRule]

Can anyone help me out and tell me what he said just before Meredith left the room in that last scene?

I replayed it twice and couldn't quite catch it either. It sounded like 'give me your word.' If that's what he said, then her word about what? That his hand will be better? That she wouldn't tell Christina about the baby? But she looked at his hand.

Edited by BooksRule, Dec 13, 2012 @ 10:57 PM.

[calidub]

Can anyone help me out and tell me what he said just before Meredith left the room in that last scene?

I think it was "It may have worked." I think it was his way of conceding that Meredith was right and that the surgery wasn't hopeless or a waste. He's optimistic now.

I just realized that they've both playing the pessimist/optimist role in each of their current storylines. Meredith with his surgery and Derek with the pregnancy. It's nice to actually see them being so supportive of each other.

Edited by calidub, Dec 13, 2012 @ 10:59 PM.

[lemon]

I love Lizzie. Can we keep her? On second thought maybe not since I liked that she seemed like an actual grown up and that doesn't last long on Grey's.

Jo is a baby. Even if the surgery was too advanced for her Alex has never done anything to her that should make her think it was some kind of evil conspiracy on his part.

I like trying to be a grown up Alex. I liked that he was trying to be like Arizona and give his moron a chance. I liked Jackson and Alex too. Now if we could get some roommate action with Cristina and Alex.

I don't get Cristina and Owen at all at this point.

I like Bailey but I've never understood why Ben wants to marry her and this episode just reinforced that.

I like that Shane thought the wedding invite was some kind of bonding exercise and didn't want to date his boss. I'm sure that kind of attitude won't last but it was refreshing

I usually don't like speeches but I liked Callie's to Arizona. I also didn't mind that Arizona was upset about the shoe thing. It seemed understandable that she would be self conscious about that kind of stuff at this point.

[lovlylizzy]

I love Lizzie's kids and they weren't even in the episode. Just the image I have in my head of kids running up to random black people and saying "We have a brown baby in our family" is ridiculous and adorable. I also liked what she had to say to Meredith about being a sister and I was hopeful it would lead to something more about Lexie, but once again, no such luck.

Callie/Arizona was refreshing especially how quickly Arizona put that shoe on when she realized Callie wanted to have sex with her.

Sorry, but Jo makes Alex less interesting to me.

[blugirlami21]

I liked the episode, really liked Lizzie and a bit of the old Bailey back. However I agree with the poster who said that Jo is pretty whiny to be Alex's love interest. She has no confidence in herself if she thought that Alex was trying to throw her under the bus by giving her an opportunity to shine. Maybe he thought she could handle it? I didn't like that she went and cried to Arizona about it, she should have went to Alex if she had a problem with his methods.

I'm confused by this Cristina. Did she forget that the demise of her relationship had nothing to do with the plane crash? It was because they are incompatible. They are still incompatible. Owen desperately wants children and she doesn't. Owen was very angry with her when she had the abortion and had an affair and they needed time to think about their relationship. Why is she acting so blindsided by this course of action? I get that Shonda is trying to show that Cristina may still have feelings for Owen but she's not doing it in the right way imo.

If they are going be endgame which sadly I'm sure they are, I want them to actually talk about their real issues and come to a realistic solution to their differing core values. As far as we know nothing has changed. The ending scene with the two of them not really talking about anything and diving right back into their shattered relationship is a case in point.

I don't like that with Cristina and Meredith it has to be all or nothing. I never had a problem with them being each others person. They were both alone, they understood each other and they treated each other like family or sisters. I didn't have a problem with it taking a little longer than usual for them to realize that they had other people in their lives that cared about them and making room for those people in their lives. Even if things are different now, at the end of the day they are still best friends and I don't like that they don't share important things with each other. Cristina is Meredith's family as far as I am concerned in vice versa and them excluding each other from the big moments in each others lives makes me sad.

Why did they do that to Bailey and Ben? Bailey couldn't send Ben a text during the ride to the hospital? Really?

Edited by blugirlami21, Dec 13, 2012 @ 11:33 PM.

[MGTex]

So much to love tonight! The only things I didn't like were interns in that cruddy alley.. again and bitchy intern girl..again. My favorite part was Alex talking to the kid in the beginning about his surgery. Epic puker! Born peds surgeon. Second favorite part was Bailey with her "don't sit down."

[Maddingcrowd]

So every woman in this hospital hates weddings, hates wedding dresses and can only be sarcastic towards getting married to what is supposed to be their true love? This storyline is way overdone for me. First we have Christina and Meredith who hate weddings, now we have Bailey.

Jo was a little witch to go tattling on Alex when he tried to give her a chance to show her stuff. Hope they don't end up together. Happy to see Christina and Owen since they are my favorite couple on the show(Mer Der are cute and all but I always see Meredith as being sort of disconnected from everyone except Zola and Christina).

[lovlylizzy]

So every woman in this hospital hates weddings, hates wedding dresses and can only be sarcastic towards getting married to what is supposed to be their true love? This storyline is way overdone for me. First we have Christina and Meredith who hate weddings, now we have Bailey.

Callie loves weddings.

[TXSforever]

So every woman in this hospital hates weddings, hates wedding dresses and can only be sarcastic towards getting married to what is supposed to be their true love?

The alive ones yeah, Lexie and Izzie were happy didn't hate weddings and look what happened to them. One a plane fell on her, the other had brain cancer sex with her dead fiancee.

[MGTex]

How great did all the women look in their wedding wear? Sandra Oh was rocking that black dress!

[AnitaMC86]

Underwhelming for a winter finale.

I love Lizzie. I want her to stay. Let's trade her for the annoying useless interns that serve no purpose other than to annoy. Jo is insufferable, just like April. I like Shane but that's about it. And Heather. Send the other ones to the parking lot.

I was about done with Bailey's whining. Yeah, weddings suck, we get it. Whatever, the party is always good.

Adieu Adele, I guess. I felt sad when she said "Why is this happening". I wonder the same thing sometimes.

Loved the Derek/Lizzie banter but felt robbed. Wish there had been more of them. I also really loved that Mer shared the ultrasound with Lizzie first. Glad she's accepting Derek's family too. The post-surgery scene with Meredith and Derek was beyond adorable. Really liked it.

I was glad Callie gave that speech to Arizona. I understood both sides but it had to be said.

I don't understand what the hell is Cristina and Owen trying to fool. It feels stupid at this point.

[BrightSide]

Loved the Derek/Lizzie banter but felt robbed. Wish there had been more of them. I also really loved that Mer shared the ultrasound with Lizzie first. Glad she's accepting Derek's family too. The post-surgery scene with Meredith and Derek was beyond adorable. Really liked it.

All of this. Why does Lizzie feel like Derek ruined her life? Felt like there was a missing scene or something.

I love love LOVED JCap's face when Callie said "I haven't had sex in 5 months because of the leg!". Her face clearly said "You want to have sex with me? I didn't know you still wanted to have sex with me!". So well done.

And while I hate Cristina and Owen and think that their relationship is toxic, I really like the scene in the scrub room. He clearly is being eaten up by the fact that he was a factor in them being on that plane. I really enjoyed the emotion in that scene.

Poor Adele. And poor Ben.

Edited by BrightSide, Dec 14, 2012 @ 12:38 AM.

[HappyGoLucky]

Callie loves weddings.

Which is ironic seeing how she didn't really care for them in 3rd season.

[havok1980]

Loved the brown baby comment... Kids say the darnedest things...

Hate that they forget Meredith has another sister and a niece.

Miss the Nazi... Hate the Princess...

[Subtle Viewer]

Ugh, that was a stab through my Jackson/April heart...but i'll never say I didn't see it coming, lol.

Now I desperately *WANT* to see her date another guy. This girl needs a confidence booster like no other.

Otherwise it was a nice episode. Neve Campbell was pleasant and I had totally forgotten her and Patrick Dempsey did "Scream 3" together so I got a little squee of joy from that. I thought they were very believable as siblings with a history. Their banter and similar grins endeared me to her. Plus we got to see some "protective brother Derek".

I don't get Bailey's weird freaky trip about getting married...I never get why anyone has these on the wedding day...this wasn't a shot gun wedding! Those circumstances with Ben being in LA and her being in Seattle and him being an intern aren't new developments. It'll be interesting to see how this resolves cause she technically didn't "runaway".

Callie gets a lot of slack from me. Her best friend and father of her child is dead and her wife has been battling some real depression. But it looks like Arizona is pulling out of it so it was good for Callie to say what she did. Arizona does not need to be coddled.

Glad that annoying intern got biotch slapped by Alex and I hope Arizona read her the riot act.

Ugh...how did I get sucked back in, lol.

[Lilybee]

Bailey should not have gone for A "Say Yes to the Dress" type gown. It was not flattering to her.

[cycworker]

I don't think there was anything in this episode I disliked (notwithstanding all the blood in the surgery scenes, but I never like that). I mean, yeah there were moments where I had no investment in the actual outcome, but I still couldn't switch to Glee for a few mins. lest I miss Mer/Der, Lizzie, Calzona, Crowen, Bailey or Richard.

I am hoping now that Ben/Bailey don't get married, I confess. I understand why she did what she did in terms of taking over Adele's care. She wouldn't be Bailey if she hadn't done that. It wasn't some random patient; it was The Chief's wife. The thing is, though, that she could've sent a text to someone on the way to the hospital and she just didn't really care enough to bother to do that. She didn't even consider Ben for even one second. He didn't cross her mind. I don't think they have the basis there for a marriage. I'm not sure even Cristina would be that disengaged. That said, the Adele scenes were wonderful and I loved Richard/JPJ all night. To think I once kinda wanted Bailey and Webber as a couple. Now I find the idea gross. I love their relationship as is and I'd be depressed if somehow they ever went there.

I did love the bridesmaid bit between Callie and Bailey because I love that friendship, as well as the Arizona/Bailey friendship that has evolved since Bailey's moved away from Peds. I have never envisioned Bailey and Meredith as friends, though. Not sure why she didn't ask her sister.

Crap KMcK and SO have chemistry. I am so, so, SO torn re: how I feel about this pairing. I absolutely get the complaints, criticisms and concerns re: the idea of having them get back together. But damn... they do love each other, and I don't think Owen is a bad guy. The problems between them, though, still exist, and it'll take great deal for me to believe that they belong together. Still... Owen's sadness and guilt re: the crash was heartbreaking. Breathtakingly good work from these two in those scenes where she confronts him.

I have to say I love that the truth re: Owen's reason for asking for a divorce has come out. I love that they didn't drag that out yet they didn't actually have Owen break his confidentiality clause. And I found it totally realistic that Derek would know, tell Mer and then she'd tell Cris. That all felt very organic. Like the friendships in this grouping, too. That said, I hope that in trying to mature these two women so they aren't like those teenage girl bffs who have to live in each other's back pockets that they don't go too far and have them shut each other out. It should be a wee bit harder on Mer to be not talking to Cris about the baby.

Leah and Stephanie are NOT working for me. Don't like the characters or the actors. I love Dr. Ross. He can stay. I thought the whole thing re: him freaking out that it might be a date was dumb, though. I want to like Jo, but it's not happening yet. Camilla Luddington just seems to not have a handle on this character. Frankly, I'd be happier if she and Tina Majorino switched parts. CL would be better as Heather and TM would be better as Jo.

The only really good thing that came out of all that was the wonderful Alex/Arizona scenes. I loved Arizona's confrontation with Karev. She is written as such a good teacher/mentor and Jessica Capshaw is really believeable to me as as a kick ass doctor.

Because they were so connected to the interns tonight I had very little interest in April and Jackson. The pairing is growing on me, but they still get too much airtime. Or worse, they actually DON'T get much airtime, but what they do is so damned boring and repetitive that it FEELS like more than it is. All I could think tonight was that every second we wasted on interns and April/Jackson was time we could be spending with Meredith, Derek, Lizzie, Callie and Arizona.

I am thrilled to be wrong re: Neve Campbell. What wonderful work she did tonight with both Dempsey and Pompeo. Great chemistry. I hope Lizzie and Mer do finally bond. I love the realism of the writing of all those scenes. And I love that she looks like a grown up. I saw some laugh lines around her eyes! I am not saying she's never had anything done - I have no idea one way or the other. I'm saying if she has, kudos to her for not going crazy with it. She still looks like a real person.

Last, but definitely not ever least, all hail Sara Ramirez and Jessica Capshaw. Or Jessica Capshaw and Sara Ramirez, if you prefer. I don't care because to me they're equal regardless of who is mentioned first. I loved that Callie tried to say she was kidding. She clearly wasn't, but it was just as clear that it wasn't a case of her not wanting to be married... it was a case of it hitting her that she has stuff to process re: the past 5 months that she thought she'd dealt with.

I personally love that Callie and Arizona are NOT being written as a perfect. Arizona HAS been hard on people. Callie's HAS said the wrong thing at times. They are still human. It's too easy to take the disabled character and his/her partner and put them on a pedastal. Good for Grey's for not doing that. Good for them for making that scene in the bedroom sweet and romantic without being maudlin. Good for Capshaw and Ramirez for showing us that both of them wanted more than a quick peck on the cheek but neither knew how to make the first move.

And when we had the final scene with the shoes where the dam finally burst... sigh... perfection. Such wonderful, wonderful acting and reacting. The actress were so in tune with each other and added all sorts of wonderful layers through their use of none verbal communication in both scenes. The shock and hope on Arizona's face when she realizes Callie actually still wants her sexually is a fine bit of understated, wonderful work. And then when she puts the shoe on and Callie realizes she's finally connected with her... that small, lovely smile on Callie's face is pure gold.

Best hour I've watched in a long, long time, even with the parts I didn't like. The whole was greater than the sum of the individual parts and it was a very cohesive, engrossing hour.

ITA with Lilybee re: Bailey's dress and in fact I almost see it as more foreshadowing/evidence that maybe this marriage is a mistake. It looked more like a dress Bailey would think she SHOULD like than one she actually WOULD like.

[Nanda]

I've to see more of B/B to pronounce myself about their marriage. Till this point I find acceptable a grown up woman might enter a new marriage with reservations and fears. After her first bad experience it's only natural she went nervous. Liked to meet her sisters. And...Adele out of random...to ruin it! Ohhh
I love the parental figure Weber is to B. I always loved that father-daughter thing they have. For me is one of the most beautiful relations of the show.

The interns...what am I going do? The guy and gal Majorino may have some chances, and this with luck. But the rest of them...we simply don't bond. Period.
And Crying Jo! This episode came to reinforce my stance on the matter. What a huge huge fail was the casting of this girl for this part. There is obviously parts for the actress, but not this one. It's obviously she was only cast because of her beauty. I hope the producers mend this quickly, Alex is a very important piece in this game, and they risk loosing part of his fans in a no credible pairing. Unfortunately she's not up to the task. Mistake.

I thought very funny the length of measures J/A took to stay away from each other at the wedding. I know most don't like April, but I do. Of course, Alex ended with the complainant whiner! Oh no.

Though, we all know why Mer reacted like that to Der's family, Lizzie speech was very well placed. She knows how and where to put the dots. I liked her a lot. Pity she's gone.
I kind don't see why in the world would she tell about the new baby in first place to a sister in law with whom she never have bonded rather than Cristina. It's like someone above pointed out, there's no middle ground with this two. IMO she's more close to Cristina than to Lizzie! Well, maybe that was appropriate to the occasion, but I still think this one of rare occasions Cris should have known before the others (not Der, of course). In the other hand, I liked to see Mer establishing family ties and that might continue off screen since Lizzie will be recovering from her surgery under M/D supervision.

Owen. Well, Owen I'm trying to like him again but it's difficult...The crash and the lawsuit was the faithful representation of their lives today. He was comparing. It's a metaphor. Their life's crash was made of many little small mistakes and no one knows for sure who is the responsible, but as someone has to be, he's assuming his share of responsibility in that. But he didn't exempt Cristina on her part. And that was what later she did. She took responsibility for part of the damage and went to him to tell what she wanted to.
I was glad that finally they talked something, with 'real words'. Uau!. But when I was getting 'too glad' the moron came with the 'I knew there was a really good chance you'd rejected the idea simply because I suggested it'.
There are things which never change. He still sees her as a child. When we want our child to do A we point them to B. We assume due to their childishness that they are "spirits of contradiction '. Cristina too, as she was angry with him and still do not know how to maneuver her feelings yet at 30's, she might just had done the opposite of what he needed, just to counter him. What a patronizing, condescending moron. In that way we won't go there Owen.

I'm, glad she called him out on he doing unilateral decisions on their marriage. Because he has done that too, but she was the only one who always has been pointed for that. I'm glad that for the first time she stood for herself and faced him.
Regarding to this pair, for me it's too late, these scenes and the kiss didn't do nothing for me. A step too far writers. They stretched the rope too much and for too long. We can't forget what we saw in season 6 and season 8.

Arizona shutting up and hastening herself to put on the shoe, when she realised she might be not having sex because she was wrongly thinking Callie wouldn't want her anymore without half a leg, when apparently Callie still find her attractive to that purpose and was about to climb the walls of desire for her , was one of the best moments for me. However I almost fainted with the 'pee on the floor' speech, until I realized she was teasing Bailey. Was she? I still stand here with a little bug!

Edited by Nanda, Dec 14, 2012 @ 9:07 AM.

[RuthAlwynn]

I want Alex to have a storyline, I really do, but this thing with Jo is painful to watch. Since the writers don't care about consistency or plausibility why don't they just hand Lizzie a job and have her get together with Alex? I mean, it would be lovely if he could have a story line that wasn't centered around looking longingly at some woman, but that's kind of what most men appear to be on the show for anyway. Alex and Lizzie would be fun. Grown up Alex being interested in someone smart, mature, strong, is something I could watch. I could watch Alex needling Derek about that too - and Derek telling Alex he was in over his head. Jo looks like the nervous babysitter Alex and his wife would hire for their child, and him trying to look like he's interested is just painful.

[Nanda]

Oh, one more thing. In tonight episode everyone ended with the smudged lipstick, Jessica, Sara, Sandra(the make up was a little over the top regarding the lipstick) . Even KMK!!! Whom I forgot to praise for his performance. He and SO. I'm fair. I might dislike their story but I recognize they are two amazing actors. Otherwise, they wouldn't receive such predominance.

Edited by Nanda, Dec 14, 2012 @ 8:59 AM.

[Sunshine55]

I kind don't see why in the world would she tell about the new baby in first place to a sister in law with whom she never have bonded rather than Cristina. It's like someone above pointed out, there's no middle ground with this two. IMO she's more close to Cristina than to Lizzie!

I see what you're saying, but to me it was more a way for Meredith to make a move toward bridging the gap. She heard all of Lizzie's very valid points, and I guess they sank in. To me it was a sweet way of showing the first tentative steps of the two women bonding.
Also, with not telling Cristina, I think that, as someone else said, she's still not ready to be happy and excited about the pregnancy. So she knows that if she tells Cristina, they;ll be talking about it a lot, and I think she's trying to be really cautious and not get her hopes up too much.