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[lovlylizzy]

“I Was Made for Lovin’ You” – Cristina and Owen continue to figure out their relationship amidst the pending lawsuit; and Bailey argues with Ben over plans for their upcoming nuptials. Meanwhile, Callie recruits Jackson to help find a solution to Derek’s hand, but he is preoccupied by a shocking situation with April, on “Grey’s Anatomy,” THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 29 (9:00-10:02 p.m., ET) on the ABC Television Network.

[Erratic]

Not shocked at all about The!Shocking!Last!Five!Minutes! But good for them. I think it'll be a nice storyline for them.

Man, April has never pissed me off or annoyed me too much, but, tonight she went too far in her cluelessness and hateful behavior. Jackson told her last week that she keeps hurting his feelings, but this? Off the charts!

Arizona. Good to see her back at work, but it didn't really work for me. I was left wanting something more. The last few weeks have been so strong for her storyline, and I get what they were doing, and how they were showing her growth and victory in little steps, and, side note - I loved her scene with Sofia- but I desperately need to hear from her. I need to see her and Callie talk about everything. It's not just about the leg anymore.

I did enjoy the comedy of The intern stalking her with the chairs.

[calidub]

I mean, I knew it. But holy hell, I'M SO EXCITED! The look on my face during that final Mer/Der scene was the dopiest of all. I was hoping for some bitch baby tears from Derek, but I'm sure they'll come eventually. I can't get over how excited they both were! My heart is all giddy and happy and I just want to give Shonda Rhimes a big ol' hug. The part I loved best about that whole pregnancy reveal, though? That Derek was the very first person she told, not Cristina. Success!

I'm not sure what exactly Shonda did (decide to write them like an actual adult married couple, maybe?) this season, but I love where they are. Mature! Happy! Meredith forcing Derek to talk in an on call room? Having real conversations? Putting aside sex for discussion? Being supportive? It's like I don't even recognize these grown-ups anymore.

And because it can't be said enough, SHUT UP APRIL.

Edited by calidub, Nov 29, 2012 @ 10:36 PM.

[AnitaMC86]

"We're having another baby." I can't believe it. I really can't.

April is insufferable. She basically described the worst wedding in history. Even the Christmas wedding sounded nicer.

Loved Bailey, Arizona, and Callie tonight. I'm glad at how Arizona is taking it. "I got up." Loved that.

"We're having another baby." Still can't believe it.

Something really wrong happened to me when I felt sorry for Owen. I really did. Nanda, I guess you win tonight as well. I expected him to file for divorce, so that didn't shock me most.

Have I said how much I hate April? Glad she and Jackson broke up.

"We're having another baby." And Meredith actually told Derek first! Biggest shock ever. I want to see Zola in that shirt now. Yes?

I still hate April with a passion.

[lovlylizzy]

Loved Arizona this episode, but She and Callie need to talk, so I am still waiting for that to happen.

April is the worst girlfriend in the history of girlfriends. I mean even a ditzy idiot might consider the fact that maybe for whatever random and illogical reason Jackson actually wanted to marry her for the sake of being married to her and not because she is pregnant. I used to find her tolerable and even funny at times, but these last few episodes of her stupidity and rudeness are the last straw for me.

I like the new Cristina and all the feelings she has. Sandra does it in a way that shows the change without departing from the original character.

[whainott]

Something has to be done about April already. She's officially the most annoying character in the history of GA. Usually I just fast forward her scenes but couldn't tonight cause I watched live. I zoned out during her scenes instead but I assume that she and Jackson broke up? The world can't take no more Jackson/April sex.

I can't believe that Cristina wants Owen back after everything. The worst thing is that she has probably changed her mind about having kids too. Just no.

The lawsuit SL continues to be uninteresting. What a waste of time.

Not enough Alex in this episode.

Mer is pregnant and I couldn't care less. What's the point?

I still don't mind the new interns, except for Jo who's just another April/Lexie. I really hope that she's not Alex's new love interest.

[NYluv]

Though the shocker! wasn't so shocking (for us internet trolls, at least), I'm really happy that Meredith is pregnant. What a great thing for her and Derek. And I may be getting ahead of myself here, but, can it be a little boy and they name him Marcus (Mark)? lol... I'm only half-joking.

I'm so over April, as if I haven't been since season 6. She really is insufferable and Jackson deserves way better.

Loved tonight's Bailey. Her sass is slowly coming back.
And seeing Arizona adjusting and doing well is really nice. Refreshing. And the intern on chair duty scenario cracked me up.

[MGTex]

I have a bit of whiplash from the speed at which Arizona went from bitter and snarling to laughing at herself on the OR floor and happy with dancing Sofia. I know that a couple of eps elapsed, but really? I'm happy she's better, but it just seems like we've glossed over what happened in the mean time. Yeah, she got a prosthesis and learned to walk, but it wasn't that long ago that she was sitting in a pee puddle and SaRa was crying in the shower. And **POOF** she's back at work and they're kissy happy and all's well? I'm not buying it.

I'm happy that Jackson stepped up even though it turns out he didn't have to and I'm even gladder that April --ptooey-- has shown her true annoying colors enough to turn him away. Jackson, take your fine self and find a worthy woman.

Christina finds happiness in her work and Bailey so wonderfully observes her growth. I loved that part. MmmmHmmm.

And Zola's gonna be a big sister! Yay! Somehow I'm hoping that this means that Ellen Pompeo might be pregnant in real life and they're writing it in this time.

Edited by MGTex, Nov 29, 2012 @ 11:11 PM.

[Yellow42758]

There were those big moments at the end that will make individual fan groups happy, but the episode overall was focused and engaging.

Unfortunately, April was written (as usual) without any consistency or common sense. There has to be a way to do this storyline and make her more likable.

Much prefer Heather, and all the other interns for that matter, to Jo. Though Jo was less annoying tonight, I must admit.

The new (well, not so new, as this has been going on since Season Five) annoying Bailey wasn't quite as annoying tonight either. She had moments of funny too.

Solid post-MAGIC episode. Will be remembered for the Mer/Der at the end.

Edited by Yellow42758, Nov 29, 2012 @ 11:26 PM.

[harkiv]

I liked that Arizona had a good day and was happy. The scene with Sofia was so cute. I definitely like she will have more bad days with the lawsuit ongoing. Looking forward to more of her story.

I can't with April. I just shake my head every time she's on screen.

Happy for Meredith and Derek. Just glad it wasn't April.

[felix9597]

Unfortunately, April was written (as usual) without any consistency or common sense. There has to be a way to do this storyline and make her more likable.

So much THIS. I actually like April and I've been struggling with her recently. Hopefully the break-up will help her become a little more self-aware.

Loved the Mer/Der at the end. Patrick Dempsey has the best smile.

Liked Bailey. Liked Cristina teaching her interns without being soft. Those two interns plus Arizona's 'wheelchair stalker' are the ones who have grown on me the most.

Loved Arizona's reaction to her fall. Such a relief for it to not be another ragefest.

[hannahfran]

I actually like April and I've been struggling with her recently. Hopefully the break-up will help her become a little more self-aware.

I'm the same too, I wish Shonda would make her more likeable as a person it is like she is structured to be the bad guy on the show (though she is still my favorite character) I just hope that like you said she becomes self-aware and hopefully redeems her self I understand what she is going through but still I can't help but want to shake her and tell her that Jackson really truly loves you. All in good time I think she will become more aware and regard others in the future.

I loved the rest of the episode though I loved seeing Arizona smiling again. I really hope Owen and Christina work it out. Also I'm warming up to the interns except Jo I don't know why but I just feel like I've seen so many characters like her before.

Glad Meredith is pregnant and totally caught that she got the T Shirt idea from April. At least her and Derek have a solid storyline for the rest of the season.

Favorite episode so far this season just really sad about Owen/Christina and Jackson/April

[Lilybee]

I loved the scene between Arizona and Alex. The fact that she was laughing and Alex was so worried was funny. Gaius Charles, Christina's intern made me cry at the liver transplant's bedside. He is such a talented actor.

[Jessie monster]

I am loving Cristina's new attitude towards teaching. She is still abrasive, but actually bothering to make sure they are progressing.

I am already bored with Alex and Fake!Izzie.

Can we have a Jackson/Cristina rebound fling now? Please?

[PortlandGirl]

Episode was okay. I am not watching enough to know who these interns are so they are automatically annoying -- except the guy from FNL who cried. Speaking of that scene, does anyone know the song that was playing?

I agree 100% that April is annoying as all hell and I wish Jackson would find a grownup. He is growing on me quite a bit.

It is nice to see Christina growing and I wish we could see more of that. I love seeing her be doctor. The stuff with Owen is always so predictably glum and silent. Why can't these two just have an adult conversation. Is that too much to ask?

Nice to see mer/der happy, but I can't imagine this baby is going to work out perfectly. It is too early in the season. Drama and heartbreak are sure to follow but then the baby will be okay.

Alex still has nothing to do even with so many fewer characters.

[NYluv]

Can we have a Jackson/Cristina rebound fling now? Please?

I'm on board with this ship!

[CrushedPuppies]

Can we have a Jackson/Cristina rebound fling now? Please?

I'm on board with this ship!

Me... not so much.

[MizEsquire]

April is a moron. Could she be any more insensitive? I am so glad Jackson kicked her to the curb. He deserves better.

I'm very excited about Baby Shepherd (Baby Grey-Shepherd?). I was smiling like they were real people who I knew personally.

[dmdell119]

I am a big goober. I own that. Because I'm still smiling over 5 minutes of Mer/Der pregnant and happy and Zola being the cutest big sister ever. I had a big, stupid, shit-eating grin on my face when it was happening and it is like fucking Prozac to me every time I have thought about it since.

This is the 5 golden minutes we get every other season that keeps me watching even when I want to throw something through the TV and when I quit watching just to fast forward through the BS and interns. Mer/Der is still "the show" to me, big storyline or not.

And right afterwards, Rose was on a Cascade commercial or something like that.

Life is fucking good.

Damn you, Shonda.

[Freckles101]

While April was definitely being insensitive to Jackson's feelings at the end, I found her reaction to not being pregnant perfectly understandable. Just because Jackson was willing to ~do the right thing~ (from her POV, since clearly that's not all it was to him) doesn't mean that April changed her mind about wanting to be pregnant. And given that her life would've been the one most affected by a baby, she has a right to be thrilled by the results.

I was 100% sure that April was gonna be the one to end things, but the way things played out actually made way more sense. Even as a big fan of April's, her behavior these last few episodes has been frustrating to watch, but hopefully this episode will have been a bit of a wakeup call for her.

I'm so excited about Meredith being pregnant, and that last scene where she told Derek was perfect and definitely made me cry. I love that she stole the shirt idea and yes, I really hope we get to see Zola wearing it.

Edited by Freckles101, Nov 30, 2012 @ 2:41 AM.

[cycworker]

Random thoughts....

Dammit, just as they`ve broken up, I can see myself becoming a fan of April and Jackson. I mean, in some ways it is stupid, for sure. The guy was talking about marriage and they`ve never actually said the word love. Call me crazy, but no matter how good the sex is, I wouldn`t be assuming a potential pregnancy induced marriage proposal was something I should continue to take seriously after I discovered I`m not pregnant. How was April supposed to know he wanted to get married even if she wasn`t pregnant? He didn`t say a damned thing to indicate that when he initially brought up marriage. Anyway... the chemistry between the actors is growing on me.

Loved the Cristina/Owen scenes. They really do have chemistry. I still don`t really feel ready to accept that they should reconcile, but I at least enjoyed the scenes. I thought the way they got to the end was well done. So glad he acknowledged earlier in the episode that nothing`s changed - they still want different things, and as it stands, it`s never going to work long term. It made perfect sense to me why he finally said they should divorce, on so many levels. My heart did break for Cristina, though. I want to say more, but I think it belongs on the Cristina/Owen thread.

The interns weren`t completely annoying this week. Oh heck, I actually enjoyed them because they were used effectively. I think one was missing, though. And I also find that the Jo is the weak link among them. It`s not the actress, at least for me. She`s fine. But the character is insipid. I didn`t like Izzie and I`m not gonna like a brunette Izzie 2.0 and the show should just skip it and move Alex back towards April. I would genuinely like to see a triangle there, with Alex/April/Jackson. In the end, I`d prefer her with Alex, and frankly, we can lose Jackson. With Mark dead, he just doesn`t fit for me. I like April enough that I want her tied to someone who is originally connected to Seattle Grace. The big April/Jackson problem for me is they`re both originally MWers, and that makes them feel isolated.

I love Bailey. I loved everything about the Bailey bits tonight. I take back every thought I had re: thinking that Bailey`s time on this show should maybe come to and end and she should move to California to be with Ben. She`s funny, she`s still got connections to the original interns, she gives Callie and Arizona a friend, I love her relationship with Dr. Webber (I hereby apologize for ever wanting that friendship to become romantic - that would ruin it) So I was wrong... keep Bailey. Just use her appropriately. BCB is not an appropriate use of Bailey.

I like the Mer/Cris relationship. With a few exceptions (the 3 in a bed scenario), I`ve had very little problem with it. Your BFF is actually someone who it can often be easier to be totally open with than your spouse. There`s a book called Friendshifts that explains it better than I can. Your spouse can`t be your BFF in the same way as your platonic BFF, basically. You need both.

I am overjoyed re: the Mer/Der pregnancy. I loved everything about them tonight. All of my love for them is coming back. They have such wonderful chemistry.

The Arizona stuff was great. Really, really enjoyed it. I think she needed that victory today. I loved that she laughed when she fell. It was time to show progress; the moments did feel earned to me. And it doesn`t mean she won`t have setbacks and she won`t have craptastically bad days where she`ll shut Callie out and be bitter and bitchy again. It`s not a linear process. One day she could well fall at the wrong time and instead of laughing she could be devastated. Been there, done that - both the laughing so hard at myself for falling that people thought I was crying, and the routine fall that would normally not impact me that somehow resulted in me bursting into tears, because it was just the straw that broke the camel`s back at that moment.

I thought the Callie/Arizona scenes were terrific, particularly the ones at home. I loved the sense I got in that conversation that AZ had totally figured out that Callie was behind the intern stalking her. And instead of being a bitch about it, she took it for what it was - her wife loving her enough to try not to hover, while still also wanting and needing to do what she could to help her through that first day. I loved that from the first scene you got all these reminders of how well these two people still know each other. They`re struggling, and they have lots of work to do to find their way back to who they were pre-accident, but the love and the commitment is all there.

The kisses worked for me. If you watch the first one, AZ seems to have to will herself not to pull away. With the second one, watch Sara Ramirez. Callie is still tentative. Last year, pre-accident, that kiss would`ve been just a bit more passionate, even with Sofia there. Callie knows if she says the wrong thing or pushes the wrong way it could all go to hell in a handbasket at a moment`s notice.

They had a good day. There`s no reason to think they still won`t have some bad ones. For me, on some level their moments tonight could almost be described as `Fake it until you make it.` Not that they`re faking it in the sense of not really loving each other... just the opposite. Faking it in the sense that they love each other enough to try to muster up the sense of being far more comfortable together than they actually are, in the hopes that the repetition of that action will get them over the hurdles so that one day soon, they`ll actually be there. It`s actually exactly what a solution based therapist would assign them to do - act as if they`re already there.

And they will, but first they`ll have to shoot a couple elephants. One is named Alex (i.e. what really happened to cause AZ to lose her leg) and the other is the whole sex/physical intimacy aspect of the relationship.

[Erratic]

The stuff with Owen is always so predictably glum and silent. Why can't these two just have an adult conversation. Is that too much to ask?

I'm not sure that the writers know the difference between love and great sex. We have never been shown a reason beyond the physical why these two should be together. What do they have in common apart from PTSD? Cristina talking to Bailey about not wanting to get married, but doing it for Owen wasn't romantic, especially given her PTSD at the time. Ugh. And now, she might have changed and grown, but he has not - why would she want to be with him?

[Mama No Life]

As a Mer/Der shipper, it was a very good night for me. Not just the baby scene, which was awesome, but actual,real minutes focused on their relationship.

I loved Alex and Robbins, though I am not buying the huge turnaround in Robbin's attitude this quickly. But whatever. I like the friendship with the two of them.

I even enjoyed Bailey's storyline.

But April is a tactless idiot. I hope this is a real break-up b/c Jackson deserves better.

I like Cristina and I like Owen, but not together. I wish this was going to stick....

[CED9]

The Arizona SL reminded me of one of Jessica's interviews where she likened recovery to a place that has so many rainy days that the one day it's sunny and perfect out feels like the best day ever. That's part of recovery, especially from an injury like that. If there aren't any good days until ALL the bad days are over, how do you know you're really recovering?

Kind of a ramble, hope it made sense.

As for the rest of the episode. Meh.

Really upset that a lot of the reaction from people seems to be "yay, MD gets to have a REAL baby now." Sigh.

The April/Avery situation just proved to me that Avery is twice the woman April will ever be, but I'm sure they'll get back together, so why waste time being happy they broke up.

Cristina/Owen is a mess. And its unfortunate that any way they get back together will be tainted.

[Chicken Wing]

While April was definitely being insensitive to Jackson's feelings at the end, I found her reaction to not being pregnant perfectly understandable. Just because Jackson was willing to ~do the right thing~ (from her POV, since clearly that's not all it was to him) doesn't mean that April changed her mind about wanting to be pregnant. And given that her life would've been the one most affected by a baby, she has a right to be thrilled by the results.

It's not that she was thrilled about not being pregnant -- because of course Jackson was, too -- it was that she then started in about being thrilled that she and Jackson didn't have to be stuck getting married, they didn't have to ruin their lives, etc. She basically went on a tirade that, summed up, said: "Oh, thank God, I don't have to be with you when I don't want to!" He wasn't offended that she didn't really want to have a baby; he was offended that she was so clueless to his feelings that she prattled on about her relief about not having to be with him right in front of him.

[cycworker]

The Arizona SL reminded me of one of Jessica's interviews where she likened recovery to a place that has so many rainy days that the one day it's sunny and perfect out feels like the best day ever. That's part of recovery, especially from an injury like that. If there aren't any good days until ALL the bad days are over, how do you know you're really recovering?

Thank you! Well said. I was trying to figure out how to articulate it and that is exactly. Do you happen to have a link to that interview? It seems to be one of the few I missed.

[CED9]

I'll look and then bring it over to the Arizona thread, so it doesn't go too off topic here.

[Nanda]

I'm very happy for Mer/Der fans.

Though I'm not an April hater, I'm soooo fed up of her story...so, I understand why people who doesn't like her can't stand this anymore. Pleeeeeeeease ShondaLand, WE ALREADY UNDERSTOOD THE POINT. LETS MOVE ON.

About Owen,no Anita I didn't win because I know... and you know...and all here know that won't last. And as I had 'advertised' in these boards some while ago here we are seeing the writers trying to force on us the douche returning to his fake ' honored, faithful, generous and selfless' mode...until he seeks more resentment against her and will again after a 'blonde'( this I am advertising for the future).

I found Bailey a little Sharp when talking to cristina.

And I liked the interactions between the former chief and the new chief. Webber is an old rat. He saw that coming, Owen didn't, but was there to support the way he could. It was pretty. We saw all that guilt complex arising on Owen. And that's one of the things I never quite understood was his attitude of arrogance and self-entitled after he had cheated on his wife. We only saw one ounce of guilty or regret after he have been caught. It seems we are seeing different man.
I think it's pretty interesting that a man who was once in the position of Chief, stepped down and no longer wants it back! We can spend our life working our asses out for a Cª, but in the end and suddenly a small mistake can knock down everything in a dime and kick us out. I think the only interest the boards have on Owen is he be Cristina's husband otherwise he would be already fired. Hope Owen who is so family prone take a lesson from that.

As others, I still feel this couple as very tiring because Shondiabolical doesn't put words in their mouths. They are monosyllabic. It's horrible! Will we ever see them to have a real talk like the other couples? I think this will be one more of Shonda's story dragged out as much as she can and in the end she kill them in another crash because she can't pull off the writing mess she slipped into.

Overall, I didn't feel the episode was that attractive.

Edited by Nanda, Nov 30, 2012 @ 7:32 AM.

[SueR]

Did anyone besides me get the feeling that Owen wants to divorce Christina because of the whole thing with the lawsuit and the conflict of interest with her being his wife? I have to admit that whole deal drives me crazy and I don't really follow it, so I could be wrong. But I distinctly remember Owen accusing the board of some kind of shenanigans involving him and Christina being married. I think that might be what's behind this. On the other hand, I can't really blame Owen if he wants a divorce anyway. As he said, she walked away and said don't call, don't get in touch etc. etc. and now she decides she wants him back? I think she's just as bad as April.

[drwyatt]

I liked the episode for a lot of reasons. I love a McBaby, I enjoyed Arizona and Callie, Derek and Callie, Arizona and Alex. April is tiresome and one note, but she needs to focus on her career, not Jackson anyway. She has boards to pass doesn't she?

This lawsuit SL is becoming completely ridiculous. There is no planet on which a Chief of SURGERY would have budget responsibility for air travel contracts. That would be a Chief of STAFF or a hospital CEO or CFO. It is so implausible as to make me want to throw things at my tv, which might have been a good idea because I am still watching on an old 17" that doesn't even have CC( I'm cheap ).

I like the new, thoughtful Cristina: a good teacher, still snarky but not crass, and finally starting to figure out that she contributed to the mess of that marriage. I agree with Erratic that the show has overemphasized Cristina's and Owen's sexual connection, so that whatever feelings of love they have for each other is not apparent to a big portion of the audience. I see more there than most, and am rooting for them to have actual conversations. I thought it was great that Owen finally stood up to say that what they want makes them incompatible. My personal opinion is that both characters actions have been written so out of character that they need serious rehabilitation, but that there are strong elements of good drama there in terms of learning from mistakes, compromising, and maybe getting back together -- not a popular stance around here but I'm sticking with it ;)

And I loved that finally, Meredith put Derek first, AND stopped shoving her opinions into Cristina's life choices.