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[Arjumand]

The team's latest case leads them into the world of performance enhancing drugs. Meanwhile, Lindsay travels to Montana for the execution of Daniel Kadence.

Good news, everyone! This week's episode was only half as annoying as it could have been, thanks to the simple solution of fast-forwarding through Lindsay's expedition of maudlin smuggery. In spite of the show's cunning stratagem of making it seem like Lindsay had run back home to Montana after a fight with Danny, I knew what it was about (mainly cause I caught a glimpse of the above summary while preparing last week's post, lol). Did it make me give a damn? Nope.

The case itself was . . . ok, I guess. For once, I felt really sorry for the victim - he was a good kid. He wasn't to know that his teacher was a complete psycho, though the fact that he hadn't done anything about the drug use should have been a clue. And at least the teen drugs kingpin wasn't completely stupid after he was arrested - I appreciate that he tried to make a deal, though once again, I had to roll my eyes at the screen. Kid, if a cop suggests, completely by accident, that you get a lawyer, YOU GET A LAWYER. It's the lawyer who makes the deal, not you. That way you have actual proof of the deal or whatever you want to call it.

Still, it was an interesting case, and pretty effective red herring placement; for once, I really didn't suspect the actual murderer until the drug-dealing teen spilled his guts.

[liz26111]

The Lindsay storyline was a bit much. In the flashback scenes I had a hard time figuring out which on was Lindsay. I did like the voice mail Danny left and him waiting at their apartment for her. But that was about it.

Edited by liz26111, Nov 17, 2012 @ 9:50 PM.

[Arjumand]

The Lindsay storyline was a bit much. In the flashback scenes I had a hard time figuring out which on was Lindsay.

It really was, wasn't it? I've started to build a theory in which all the writers of the crime procedurals have a massive weekly orgy in which they indulge in a lot of pillow talk - every week there are at least two episodes which have the same or similar storyline. This week, both CSI: Lindsay Messer and Criminal Minds had lengthy flashbacks which took up at least half the episode in question. Though at least in Criminal Minds the flashbacks were connected to the case somehow, and were like a mini-Vietnam movie, albeit on a very low budget. The CSI flashbacks were more like a very dull, intrigue-free episode of Pretty Little Liars. And it had nothing to do with the case in the episode.

As regards who played young Lindsay, I thought it was the one with the long straight hair, 'cos that's the hairstyle Lindsay used to have.

So far, so dull. I would much rather have found out more about the druggie teen storyline - were they all going to be arrested? Or none? Did the dealer's trade work? Or would he still go down for it? Didn't he have parents? Wow, you can kill someone with a mug? I mean, crystal ashtray, lead pipe, big rock, sure. But a mug? What was it made out of, reinforced concrete? I guess not, as it broke into a million pieces.

Thank god we know so much about Lindsay's sleepovers! That sure was gripping.

[rivermet]

I drop into CSI NY when I can and therefore had no idea what the hell was going on in Lindsay's storyline. Very confusing.

[Arjumand]

no idea what the hell was going on in Lindsay's storyline.

LOL! I don't blame you, as I think it's pretty audacious of the showrunners to hijack half an episode for Lindsay's ISSUES, especially as we're supposed to remember all of Lindsay's Mary-Sue moments from years ago.

Basically, in season 3 (6 years ago, people!) we found out that when she was a teenager in Montana, she was the sole survivor of a diner massacre (of course she was) in which the three friends we saw in her flashbacks were murdered. She returned to Montana to identify the killer who had finally been caught, and now, 6 years later, he was executed, and she went back to witness it.

I remember in those season 3 episodes I had much more sympathy for Lindsay, as she hadn't become Ms Perfection yet, though in hindsight I can see the groundwork being prepared in that storyline.

[liz26111]

As regards who played young Lindsay, I thought it was the one with the long straight hair, 'cos that's the hairstyle Lindsay used to have.

That was my thinking too. I did rewatch a few times and at the time had a good idea of which one she was. Now, no clue and would have to rewind to remember.

Basically, in season 3 (6 years ago, people!)

Holy moly, season 3 was that long ago!? Well, I do know it was once I think about it but damn.

Edited by liz26111, Nov 20, 2012 @ 12:31 AM.

[Nylver]

I figured out which one was Lindsay in the last 2 minutes. So yeah, neither writing nor casting did a very good job on that.

All these seasons later Lindsay is still "the one who replaced Aiden" and "the one who made Danny dull". So I was pretty bored during this episode too.

[Mermaid Under]

Basically, in season 3 (6 years ago, people!) we found out that when she was a teenager in Montana, she was the sole survivor of a diner massacre (of course she was) in which the three friends we saw in her flashbacks were murdered

This time however, two of the victims were friends and one of the murder victims was her sister, Lucy. At least that was how I understood the flashbacks, and that was the first I remember hearing that little bit of trivia. I never remember them saying that the daughter was named after the sister.

[PictureItSicily]

That's because it's a BS retcon. It was her and her friends. We saw her testify in court, they were her friends. No mention of a sister. Now it was her sister, whom her daughter is named after? The daughter she wanted to name Lydia? Danny was lobbying for Lucy, Lindsay wanted to name her Lydia. So we get a retcon on Lindsay's sister, but we STILL don't know what became of Louis Messer? Like I don't have enough reasons to dislike Lindsay, sucking all the personality out of Danny.

Edited by PictureItSicily, Nov 20, 2012 @ 11:36 AM.

[Nylver]

This time however, two of the victims were friends and one of the murder victims was her sister, Lucy.

I completely and utterly missed that. Probably because I wasn't paying attention enough, but also because we knew they were her friends. That was canon and I shouldn't have been paying attention for new info there because all of that story line had already been told!
So at what part did I miss the sister thing, was she the one who said her parents weren't home or was she the other girl laying in the grass?

[liz26111]

This time however, two of the victims were friends and one of the murder victims was her sister, Lucy.

I completely and utterly missed that. Probably because I wasn't paying attention enough, but also because we knew they were her friends. That was canon and I shouldn't have been paying attention for new info there because all of that story line had already been told!
So at what part did I miss the sister thing, was she the one who said her parents weren't home or was she the other girl laying in the grass?

I so missed this too. When did they say this?

[Mermaid Under]

I so missed this too. When did they say this?

Lucy was the one in the scene where Lindsay (and Lucy) were laying out looking at the stars. Lucy said she was leaving Montana, Lindsay said she was staying.
I know I got the name Lucy right, but now I realize I assumed she was a sister because 1 -she seemed younger, and 2 -it was so late at night, I assumed any young girl who wasn't family would have been home with their own family.

[ByTor]

Correct me if I'm wrong, I thought the story was that is was her college sorority sisters who were murdered, but this clearly looked like scenes of high school girls. So she goes away by herself to witness an execution and doesn't bother getting in touch with her husband or daughter? GAH my Lindsey hatred knows no bounds! Her best scene all season is when she clunked her head in the no talking episode!

[Ohmo]

I don't think the girl that Lindsey was looking at the stars with was her sister. The word "sister" was never used in the episode, at least not that I heard. Also, her father mentioned the loss of her mother when they were sitting in the boat. If he had lost a child, I'd think he would have said something about Lindsey's mother and sister.

As to the other girl being with Lindsey late at night? I don't find that strange, given that they had known each other for years. My siblings and I had long-standing childhood friends, and my parents would not worry to the same degree that they might have if we were with someone that they didn't know as well. I just theorized that the other girl was staying at Lindsey's house for the night, as teenage girls are often prone to do. Made perfect sense to me.

I think that these were just four close childhood friends, and the timeline seems appropriate as well. The footage of the shooting was used in previous seasons, and as I remember it, the girls were in high school when Lindsey first mentioned the story as canon. I remember her saying they were 15-16 when Lindsey was in a scene with Stella. I'd agree that the history of Lucy's name is something new, but I think the rest of the backstory adheres to what came previously.