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[gumboot]

Still no thread for this one? It was TERRIBLE...

[citigirl]

I just watched it on Hulu. HATED the ending. THIS is what Amaro and Olivia are gong to bond over?

Edited by citigirl, Nov 16, 2012 @ 2:14 AM.

[kathyk2]

What happened to Tessa? Please tell me her scumbag father won't get to keep her.

[gumboot]

There are a couple of extra scenes viewable online, and one makes it clear that she went back to the Leddys.

[Bunny LaJoya]

I liked this episode! LOL! I actually wanted to post last night but saw no topic. Kind of sad for me.

Tessa was the cutest thing I have ever seen! Waving to Olivia? Just kill me.
I don't know, I was pretty damn entertained.

I "hated" the ending too, in that I hated what Amaro and Liv did. Just so incredibly wrong. Or rather, what Liv did. Amaro just stood there.

Murder is okay if Liv feels sorry for your mother. LOL.

Was that Bijoux Phillips as the mother? Gonna look it up. Edited: Yup, except her name is spelt Bijou. She looks pretty damn good, better than she did in the 90's. She looks cleaned up.

Edited by Bunny LaJoya, Nov 16, 2012 @ 11:30 AM.

[MsCaitlin]

Hated the ending. Hope it comes back to bite Liv and Amaro in the ass. At this point, they both annoy the crap out of me. Give me Fin and Rollins, and bring back more Munch.

I too was kind of irritated that we didn't find out what happened to Tessa. I feel like that plot was swept by the wayside.

Kept thinking of Boy Meets World whenever they said "Mr Feeney." Guess that's a sign that I'm not invested in the episode...way too easily distracted.

Murder is okay if Liv feels sorry for your mother. LOL.

Best episode summary ever.

[Spartan Girl]

There are a couple of extra scenes viewable online, and one makes it clear that she went back to the Leddys.

Thank goodness. I was annoyed that they just dropped that whole plotline about what was going to happen to Tessa. I'm glad that the Leddys got to keep her. She was better off with them than her crazy slut biological mother.

I hated the ending; I know it's going to come back to bite Olivia in the ass. Nothing justifies murder, but damn if I didn't feel sorry for the mother and daughter. Cheating on your terminally ill wife is bad enough. But what kind of depraved bitch shows her lover's child a sex tape of the two of them together? I kind of don't blame that poor girl for losing it. Had Olivia not covered for the girl by letting the mother take the wrap, I'm pretty sure a jury would have been sympathetic. Which makes the ending even more stupid.

Kept thinking of Boy Meets World whenever they said "Mr Feeney."

Me too! God, I'm getting old.

[floretbroccoli]

It's been a little while, I think, since we've seen one of these episodes where they reeeeaaalllly had to struggle to come up with a reason for the case to remain with SVU.

And kind of a waste of Scott Bakula.

Edited by floretbroccoli, Nov 16, 2012 @ 6:01 PM.

[Scorpiosrule]

And kind of a waste of Scott Bakula.

Kind of? It was a TOTAL waste, and I'm fanwanking someone slipped him some kind of micky for him to have wasted his talent to do this.

The minute the case became about custody, SVU should have kicked it or had it taken away from them.

To realllly stretch, for sure, when Dia or whatever the fuck her name is, was murdered, it became a case for the 27.

In all my years of watching, I've seen where the detectives were pissed/angry when they had to arrest a good person, or when they couldn't get the rapist/pedophile. Okay, maybe there was one other case in the good years.

I'm praying this show gets the axe before the season ends.

[marceline]

And kind of a waste of Scott Bakula.

Kind of? It was a TOTAL waste, and I'm fanwanking someone slipped him some kind of micky for him to have wasted his talent to do this.

I've always said that Scott Bakula could make anything bearable. I was wrong. And this is coming from someone who watched Star Trek: Enterprise.

[Penny Robinson]

What Olivia and Amaro did was so incredibly wrong, I have no words.

[gumboot]

Tessa was the cutest thing I have ever seen! Waving to Olivia? Just kill me.

The little girl was in genuine distress in a couple of scenes, I thought, which didn't make the episode more comfortable viewing.

My own feeling is that the story went from being convoluted (who was the genuine mother? Father? Where did all the phoney paperwork come from? What happened to the supposed surrogate mother?) to extremely predictable (as soon as Hannah appeared, did anyone doubt that she'd end up being guilty somehow?) and took a turn into plain nonsense at the end. Would they really get through a trial without anyone else seeing that Hannah's Mom was physically incapable of the murder? What kind of a defence lawyer did she have? Did Olivia and Amaro get up in court and perjure themselves? It really was the silliest episode in years.

[alexaxle]

I hope Olivia gets fired. Not only would it get her off the show, it would allow me to get a tiny bit of respect for TPTB back. They were doing so well last season and then they decided they wanted to go back to being crack again. Though, granted, it was nowhere near as bad as S12.

[Arjumand]

What Olivia and Amaro did was so incredibly wrong, I have no words.

I agree with you so much right now. To be honest, this episode was so forgettable, I literally couldn't remember what it was about until I read this thread, but that was some fucked up shit right there.

Who the hell made them judge and jury? Yes, the girl was provoked, but she KILLED SOMEONE. The fact that she was a minor, provoked, and in a bad emotional state because of her mother's terminal illness, all that could have been used as mitigating factors in her trial. Hell, if they both would have confessed, contradicting each other (weren't there like a hundred of these cases on all Law and Orders?), there might not even have been a trial, or there might have been one which resulted in a hung jury.

But no, Amaro and St Olivia have decided. Well, I've decided that they're the worst cops ever. And I'm officially tired of them handling murder investigations like that's their job. Finn and Munch would have handled this case better, even though it wasn't their job, either.

I can't believe the mothership was cancelled and this crap was kept on.

[misterbfd]

Wow. Just... wow. Talk about gross dereliction of duty! Both of these detectives need to be busted off the force. The decision they made was NOT their decision to make. And it looks like Cragen smelled a rat when he talked about the mother being able to lift the 20-pound crystal and strike multiple blows with it.

Pathetic resolution to an awful episode.

Screw you, show.

[extracat]

I watched this episode because I saw that Scott Bakula was going to be in it. I've seen the show before, but I'm not a regular viewer. I only tuned in for SB. What a utter and complete waste of one of the most talented actors out there. They have a guest star of his caliber and that's the best role they could give him? I don't mind that he played a scumbag. But they could have at least made him an interesting scumbag with a bigger part. I can't believe that got Scott Bakula for a role that any bit player could have handled.

[Spartan Girl]

Who the hell made them judge and jury? Yes, the girl was provoked, but she KILLED SOMEONE. The fact that she was a minor, provoked, and in a bad emotional state because of her mother's terminal illness, all that could have been used as mitigating factors in her trial. Hell, if they both would have confessed, contradicting each other (weren't there like a hundred of these cases on all Law and Orders?), there might not even have been a trial, or there might have been one which resulted in a hung jury.

THIS. After watching it a second time, what Amaro and Olivia did just seems stupider -- especially when you consider that Olivia didn't cover for the girl who had her abusive parents killed in "Home Invasions."

And by the way, why the hell did Hannah go over to Dia's in the first place? Even if Dia really did want to apologize, any other girl in her position have hung up on her on the spot instead of taking that invitation.

[Nycnftm]

Jack McCoy once did something similar...He said there is no stature of limitations on murder. They could have waited till the mom died and charged the kid. This ending sucked

[NMdum1]

Illogical, I get that parents often lie to protect their children, but I can't see an intelligent judge accepting that bald-faced a lie. Clearly, nobody was thinking right.

It had a crap ending, Olivia, bugger off if you can't get down from your pedestal, you don't get to decide who gets justice and who doesn't. Dia was a fruit-loop, the kid was under extreme emotional pressure, there was no realistic chance for success at trial. It's still not up to her, that's not how justice works and if she doesn't get that, she needs to leave the Force and my God does Cragen need to retire because once upon a time, he would have had her ass for that kind of thing.

And this is a somewhat glaring example of how the format has changed, the lack of an ADA to challenge the God-like Detectives. Neither St. Alex Cabot nor Casey would have particularly wanted to prosecute, Hannah was it? they would have found a wangle, some probation deal that directed a proportionate punishment but still meant that the team stayed on the right side of the law they are supposed to enforce.

And I officially can't watch anything with Scott Bakula in it. I just kept thinking, "Captain Quantum - you are a d**k". I predicted in 2004 Enterprise with him at the helm would be a disaster, it was and now Trek has ruined him forever for me and I really rather liked Quantum Leap back in the day. Curses!