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[staveDarsky]

The CSI team investigates the death of a reverend who was found at the grave site of former CSI Warrick Brown.

[merylinkid]

Well that fell flat. I knew Warrick would not be coming back, we saw the body. But still I hoped it would be better executed. I really hoped it would be the kid that had gone joy riding and Warrick had to send to jail. Warrick kept an eye on the kid in jail. That would have been nice continuity to have him now looking out for Warrick's family. But noooooooo.

I hereby nominate DB for insensitive jerk of the year award. "too bad he's not here to help us out." Yeah way too bad he's DEAD so he is not available to provide background info on the neighborhood. Because that is the only reason Warrick should not be dead.


And yeah, the CSIs were nasty to Warrick's EX-wife. She cheated on their friend, that is why she is EX.

But of course, it took Finn to call Child Protective Services and save the child from his crackhead Mom. Who will get him back if she promises CPS she really will get her act together, no proof necessary. Although the removal scene was not well-handled.

Oh goody, a Finn centric episode next week. Never had one of those before. I believe I have plans for the same time as next episode.

Edited by merylinkid, Nov 15, 2012 @ 5:10 PM.

[iscoffy]

Does CPS in Las Vegas really take kids away because Super Shue is grossed out by cockroaches, there are some pills in a canister and some white powder? I would think there might be a little more investigation, but then, outraged Sara is never wrong.

I liked Brass getting his snark on in this episode. And Nick seems to have solved his hair issue by removing it from the equation. Other than that, um, the kid was cute?

[MurlocGurgle]

the emotional depth just having mentioning Warwick and showing his broken family really highlights how shallow CSI has become since the first 9 Warwick years - the show used to be heavy with human frailty and disconnection in Vegas - people weren't as nice to each other as they should have been, people were often insincere, people were self destructive - CSI used to leave me slightly dizzy with the awful humanity depicted

remember when he let Catherine believe that there was something percolating but he was with Tina already? That was cloaked resentment and pitiless cruely/retaliation for Catherine's flirtatiousness.

So Nick never became a Big Brother to Warwick's son.

[maculae]

Wow. Gary Dourdan must have REALLY pissed them off if they would rather use a picture of generic male than pay him a little money to use his picture so people not familiar with who the f' Warrick was would get a clue. Of all the times to bring up Sara's past, wouldn't her letting Eli know that she was a foster child be mildly comforting to him? Ball dropped. But that kid was cute, and quite obviously not 4 or 5.

Can't wait to read the re-caps of next week's Super Shue episode. Cause I sure won't be watching that.

And Nick seems to have solved his hair issue by removing it from the equation.

lol

[BooksRule]

This episode was just okay. All of the 'Warrick from beyond' moments were ordinary, but I did laugh when Greg and whatshername (I've gone blank) were talking about the payments made in dead Warrick's name and the phone buzzed and made them jump.

I did appreciate the red herring that was presented when the aunt was talking about James' mother getting visions (hearing voices?) and going crazy. I was sure that it would turn out that James had a split personality and was the killer without realizing it. I was also a little afraid that they would have Warrick's son be involved somehow, but figured that he was too young for them to go there storywise (and I knew that it wasn't Tina--that was too obvious). That being said, I didn't really care who the killer was by the end. Oh, I was also worried for a minute that our good guy Nick would take Warrick's kid in instead of having him sent to a foster family. But, he probably has his hands full with his new adopted canine buddy.

[linderhill]

I don't remember Warrick and Tina having a kid. When did that happen? It was nice how they gave the little boy dreadlets adding to the Warrick resemblance. Wow, Tina fell hard and fast didn't she. Wasn't her ex a doctor and she was gainfully employed as a nurse? and Lady, don't complain about not getting any help from you last estranged husband's friends when you basically tell them to get out.

[misterbfd]

Boy, did that suck or what?

[sierrabear]

I thought the boy would turn out to have a split personality as well.

The best part was that the bad guy's confession. Interesting how he said that no one would have ever taken him for a protector. Was there some regret in that I wonder.

[Mermaid Under]

Well that fell flat.

Sometimes when I'm watching a bad TV episode, I think that the show's writers had a good idea that just got poorly executed. This bad TV episode was a bad idea that got poorly executed. It was confusing, it was stupid and it was saccharine. And whole lot more bad, I'm just too tired to think of any more adjectives.

The best part was that the bad guy's confession.

I guess the actor did an okay job reading the lines, but I just found myself agreeing with him. Yeah, no one would believe that a career criminal would be paying any attention to a kid you had never bothered with and who didn't even know you were his father, because, well, that doesn't happen. I know its supposed to be fiction, but its a crime drama not a fairy tale.

[staveDarsky]

The best part of this was the brief exchange between Brass and Nick at the cemetery. Those two KNEW Warrick and had relationships with him. What would have improved this would have been Sara and Nick working together on this and not paired off with people who didn't know Warrick. That would have given some opportunity for them mutually recalling events in their lives. They were the three young Turks for the first few seasons.

Even better would have been to have a clip or two of Warrick with Nick. Obviously that wasn't possible, given how Gary was dismissed by the show.

I really didn't buy Tina's reasons for rejecting help from the CSIs. It's not like any of them were threatening to take Ely from her at the funeral. Sara's a self-admitted "non-kid" person and Nick just isn't the type who meddles like that. The only one she might have seen as a threat would have been Catherine, who had a thing for Warrick and was a mum herself. Also, they established in Gum Drops, that Tina's father was a professor or doctor. So how could her parents go along with her living in a bad part of town.

The sad fact is, this is an old show with writers who are most interested in writing for the newest characters and not the long-time ones. I got the impression that the writer of this wasn't on staff while Warrick was part of the show. Another reason it didn't pan out as we'd hoped.

[linderhill]

The sad fact is, this is an old show with writers who are most interested in writing for the newest characters and not the long-time ones. I got the impression that the writer of this wasn't on staff while Warrick was part of the show. Another reason it didn't pan out as we'd hoped.

That is very sad. There were some excellent opportunities there that were completely wasted. I do have to say it was interesting to note that since this case had nothing personal for The Shue or DB so there couldn't be ANY overly emotional scenes. It was nice that the characters that actually knew Warrick, Nick, Brass, Sara and Greg, actually mentioned him but it could have been so much better. My favorite scenes were Nick and Brass. Those two don't get enough scenes together.

I have come to the conclusion that the writers don't even care that there used to be a show bible and that there may be viewers still hanging around that pay attention to the little details that used to play such a huge part in the past.

[Nylver]

So Nick never became a Big Brother to Warwick's son.

I think it was made clear that that was because Tina didn't want him near her son. Nick hadn't forgotten about Warrick (see flowers at grave). Which sounds like Nick.

Ooooh Gum drops, brilliant epi, I think I might have to dig that one up and rewatch it!

[Arjumand]

Ooooh Gum drops, brilliant epi, I think I might have to dig that one up and rewatch it!

I'd rewatch it too, except it might make me depressed about how dull CSI is this season. Actually, I've watched the episode recently, and it's so awesome. It was the first episode to show us how a CSI without Grissom might look, and the cast carried it off really well. For an episode which seemed really depressing, it managed to end on a watery smile (the little girl lived!). Everyone was awesome in it, and we even got some continuity from Grave Danger, after having been robbed of Nick's slow recovery in previous episodes.

This one? Meh. I just found it dull. I don't know why the showrunners bothered to make a Warrick episode, when they clearly still hate Gary Dourdan so much that they won't even call him back to film flashbacks. Or Dourdan won't allow them to use his image, who knows.

And that image of the Nice White Ladies taking the underprivileged African American kid away from his mom because her house was a little messy was really repellent. Are the writers that tone deaf that they didn't know how bad that made Sara and Finn look?

Next week a Finn episode? Oh joy.

Edited by Arjumand, Nov 19, 2012 @ 10:53 AM.

[Kel Varnsen]

I thought the episode was ok, but I wondered why Nick didn't bring his new police dog to the junk yard with him to find the body? It would have been better than the stupid find a key thing him and Shue were doing.

[mertensia]

Probably because he's a police dog and not a cadaver dog.

Shue really shouldn't have been in the episode ; thus was about the older characters.

I really didn't buy Tina's trip into cokeland or whatever her drug was.

[Kel Varnsen]

Probably because he's a police dog and not a cadaver dog.

Fair enough (although I am not sure why a dog trained to find smells couldn't find the smell of a decomposing body), but they also had the dead guy's shoes. Let the dog smell those and then go find the owner. And even if that dog couldn't find dead bodies, after the episode where Nick got the dog, he should have been aware enough of the world of police dogs to know that a dog would be a better choice for that scene then Shue with the find a key thing.

[emma675]

Oh, I was also worried for a minute that our good guy Nick would take Warrick's kid in instead of having him sent to a foster family. But, he probably has his hands full with his new adopted canine buddy.

I was kind of hoping Nick would end up with the kid. It could be a new running theme.

Got a police dog who's retiring and his handler is dead? Nick will take him.

Got a kid who's been taken away from his druggie parent by CPS? Nick will take him.

Unclaimed bodies, orphaned children? Nick will take them!

[HurricaneVal]

I had much higher hopes for this episode, based on the previews (I know, I know), but that fell short of the potential. Oh well. Lots of opportunities missed. But excellent casting on Warrick's kid!

[SVNBob]

And that image of the Nice White Ladies taking the underprivileged African American kid away from his mom because her house was a little messy was really repellent.

The house wasn't "a little messy", it was unsafe and practically unlivable. They found an unlabeled and open bottle of pills (oxy, wasn't it?) on the coffee table, a colony of roaches eating a sandwich on the floor that was covered by a paper plate, etc.

While it was a brutal scene, race had nothing to do with it. Swap the ethnicity of any/all of the characters in that scene and it would still play the same.

[catray]

Tina was kind of a bitch when she showed while Warrick was alive, but I don't know if it's believable that she developed an Oxy habit and went on such slide after he died. After all, weren't they already divorced at that point? On the other hand... do I really care? No, not really. I'm not emotionally invested in this show anymore.

Glad the young guy who looked up to Warrick wasn't the one who committed the murders-- that would have been sad. .

[kwynne38]

How did DB not know anything about Warrick being dead, the whole reason evil super corrupt ex Undersherrif who caused him such trouble at the end of last season/start of this was in prison in the first place was because he killed Warrick.