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[TWoP Tennison]

Dexter and Hannah grow closer and Sal Price discovers the two are involved; Quinn makes questionable choices to protect Nadia.

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[hadapurpura]

Dexter should listen to Deb and kill that Hannah once and for all. What a waste of oxygen.

[Nightmare Logic]

Wow after a really crappy last season this season is running on all cylinders...well except for the really stupid Quinn storyline but I pretend he doesn't exist.

And we have lift off with Deb actually commanding Dexter to kill someone.....which is so cool in so many ways too bad its the one person Dexter can't/won't kill. I really like the VO with all his love interest and how they all viewed him. It was rather insightful. Lila was drawn to his darkness. Rita was blind to it. Lumen needed it. But Hanna sees both sides of him and likes both sides of him.

It looks like LaGuarta suspects one of the Morgans. The only question is which one. I am actually hoping it is Deb. I would really find it interesting if she got it into her head that Deb was the Bay Harbor Butcher, especialy with the way Deb has been acting lately.

[ECAmber]

In no particular order:

Serial killer humor - who knew?

Best scene of the episode: when Dex described killing Victor. He was brutal about it and you could see the arrow hit its mark. Excellent acting on both sides.

Quinn is fucked. I still can't find it in me to care.

LaGuerta *finally* fell over a piece of useful evidence...

Price died!! Did not see that coming...

... speaking of coming, that opening scene was the hottest one of the series.

Back to Price... I'm a little frustrated with Deb. Her turn around is so blindingly fast her character should (rightly) experience a break with reality. So now she is setting Dexter loose and just threw her hands up in the air without spending a day investigating?

Alright, I'm sure I'm missing something, but the 10th anniversary of Firefly is on and I gotta bounce.

[Lazard000]

I think Hannah will be Deb's first kill.

I really like the VO with all his love interest and how they all viewed him. It was rather insightful. Lila was drawn to his darkness. Rita was blind to it. Lumen needed it. But Hanna sees both sides of him and likes both sides of him.

After Deb releases her dark passenger she'll be a combination of all four.

[hadapurpura]

After Deb releases her dark passenger she'll be a combination of all four.

And then some. She's the one who got changed by his Dark Passenger. She's also the one who loves him in spite of it.

Maybe when/if Hannah tries to kill Deb, Dexter will learn the difference between love and mere stupidity.

Edited by hadapurpura, Nov 11, 2012 @ 11:28 PM.

[Royal Victorian]

Man, I knew Sal wasn't long for this world. I just didn't expect him to go so soon. I guess he had three strikes against him: pissing off Hannah, pissing off Dexter, and having a romantic relationship with Deb. I'll miss his pretty face, though.

For me, Isaak's plotline is mostly out of sight, out of mind. I forgot about him almost completely until he interrupted Dexter's lunch, but I thought that scene was great. Dexter was truly creepy when he was telling Isaak the details of how he killed Viktor.

I like that Deb called Dex out on manipulating evidence to keep Hannah for himself. She's been so smart this season.

I enjoyed this episode more than last week's, but I wasn't on the edge of my seat the way I was for the first 5 episodes of the season. I find myself wishing that the writers would just drop the Quinn/Nadia storyline, the Batista/"retirement" storyline, and even the Isaak storyline sometimes. What's happening with Deb, her relationship with Dexter, and the ever-growing shadow of LaGuerta's investigation is getting all my attention, and I don't have much patience for the rest of it. My only interest in the Hannah McKay plot is how it will affect Deb. Deb seems to be on her way to a truly colossal breakdown, and I can't help but think that Hannah is going to get the worst of it.

I think Hannah will be Deb's first kill.

Co-signed.

[Old Juan]

I think Hannah will be Deb's first kill.

I almost think the writers will actually go there.

[BroughtBackIn]

What in the holy fuck is going on with our show? Who are these new characters they have put in place of the old?

The writers are not being true to Dexter's true character one single bit. Bullshit. Bullshit. Bullshit.

Don't get me wrong, Hannah is hot, a wonderful actor, is very convincing, beautiful, etc..but Dexter, OUR Dexter isn't this immature, clingy, and sensitive person that has invaded his mind and body. Where in fucktopia is our Dexter?

Sure, the writers had to get us to the point where Deb asked Dex to kill someone, and that someone is someone he is THINKING he loves? GMAFB already!

This god-awful writing is an insult to the viewers and characters of this ONCE beloved show. Gah!

Edited by BroughtBackIn, Nov 12, 2012 @ 12:35 AM.

[catherinedebarra]

I'm really enjoying this season. I liked Yvonne Strohanski in "Chuck," but I think she's really showing some acting chops here. During that opening, all I could think was that if Zachary Levi watches this, he has to be thinking he was on the wrong show.

[bcharmer]

How did Hannah poison Sal's pen? He brought it with him. Didn't we see him remove it from his briefcase? And what quick-acting, non-detectable poison did she use (ricin? no... lily of the valley? no... )? How did she know that he would chew his pen? They had one scene together at the flower stand, and he put the pen in his mouth for just a second or two, during their entire conversation. Didn't seem like that was enough to base her whole plan on him doing that. But then again, I'm not a murderer, so I'm not all that observant.

I don't like all the Hannah Mckay stuff. But I like the Isaak character, he's a good match for Dexter, I wish they would focus more on him.

I feel the same way. I very much like it when Isaak is on the screen, for several reasons. Ray Stevenson is doing a great job with the role. It would have been fine with me if Dexter had killed Hannah in the last episode.

Edited by bcharmer, Nov 12, 2012 @ 2:52 AM.

[Cerpintaxt815]

The last few episodes, since Dex killed Speltzer, have been kind of boring. I don't like all the Hannah Mckay stuff. But I like the Isaak character, he's a good match for Dexter, I wish they would focus more on him.

And I squee'd a little bit when Laguerta found Dexter's name on the boat registration list, that's pretty exciting. I just hope the result is not as simple as Laguerta finding out about Dexter, and then Dexter (or even Deb) killing her. If they want this show to go out with a bang, I think a great final season would be Miami Metro knowing the truth about Dex and Dex on the lamb

[ShaniquaVan]

I know they made a point of showing us that he chewed on cocktail straws/stirrers when he was with Deb, but I didn't know that Hannah knew he did that.

He chewed on his pen during the interview with her. We might also assume, with their mutual familiarity, that she might have observed him doing this before.

[bcharmer]

He chewed on his pen during the interview with her. We might also assume, with their mutual familiarity, that she might have observed him doing this before.

On rewatch, I paid attention to their scene together at the flower stand (I edited my original post), where he chewed it only for a second or two. But I'm still wondering how she got the poison on the pen in the first place.

[cranberry]

How did Hannah poison Sal's pen?

I thought she poisoned the pen while he had his back turned getting the kleenex box that was conveniently placed behind him.

[Helena Dax]

It seems that Dexter is listening to his Horny Passenger XD I like Dexter/Hannah, though. But Rudy tried already to challenge Dexter's Code and it didn't go well.

And now Deb wants Dexter to kill Hannah! That was cool even if right now I don't want Hannah to die. Having a serial killer at your service can be very useful.

I'm still not interested in Quinn or Angel. I don't like LaGuerta either but at least her plot seems promising. If she starts to think that Dexter or Deb killed Doakes she could become table material.

Isaak is awesome.

[Pico]

I think if anything that Hannah will be killed by Isaac . That way the evil girl is taken care of and Deb can keep her conscience clean. Which would then cause Dexter to go crazy on both Isaac and that other dude. They could also have Isaac turn her into a sex slave which could cause Dexter to go crazy on that club.

It looks like Deb is losing everything. Her brother to a femme fatale her respect by covering for her brother. She's such a tragic character.

[purplebubbles]

It looks like Deb is losing everything. Her brother to a femme fatale her respect by covering for her brother. She's such a tragic character.

I know :( I felt so sad for her. She can't even go on a couple of dates now with a guy before he gets killed!

I'm not sure exactly how I feel about her Face Heel Turn w/r/t Dexter's Dark Passenger, but I guess just seeing Hannah continually get away scott free with everything over and over again got to her, on top of the fact that she messed with Deb's personal life (Sal Price) AND to add injury to insult bucked her authority. I guess knowing that you have your own personal executioner on speed dial must be very tempting when you're faced with a situation like that. I hope the writers tread carefully with his storyline, though.

I hope we get to see much more of Isaak before this season is over. Also, I'm so curious about that new female detective on the team. She must have been added to the show for a reason.

[AnalogHeart]

I don't think we've seen a lovesick Dexter before - and I'm fine with that. They have great chemistry together and despite my saying to him "Don't go there, Dexter" he went there. (Why doesn't he listen to me???) This will not end well for anyone and it makes my heart sad to know that he's gonna get played, Deb will get played and Hannah's number will soon be up. (Okay, that part doesn't make my heart sad.)

What is the point of Quinn and Nadia? That is so lame - he's strong enough to protect them both. ha! He'll blow away in a strong wind! Have never cared for that character and probably never will.

This is a MUCH better season than last (the first time I ditched the show in mid-season. I watched the last ep and that was it.) But yeah, not gonna be pretty when it's all said and done.

[Sakura12]

I thought it was really hot when Dexter and Hannah were talking about why they kill people while trying not jump each other right there. Michael C. Hall and Yvonne Strahowki have amazing chemistry together. I'm liking the Hannah storyline and don't find it all a copy of his previous love interests. The DVO explained it perfectly. Lila was attracted to his darkness, Rita was blind to it and Lumen needed it. Hannah accepts everything about him.

With Deb being hot and cold with him, I can see why Dexter is drawn to Hannah. She's exactly what he's been searching for. Someone that gets him and accepts him. She's a liberated version of him. Since it's ending soon I wonder if Hannah will be the one to get to Dexter to give up his code and going on killing spree culminating in his death in season 8 finale. Because he didn't seem all that broken up that she killed Price, an innocent. And there's really no other way to end a show about a serial killer. We know Dex won't go to jail.

And that guy what did he expect, going to a killer's house to tell her you are going to write a book telling everyone she's a killer. She's a sociopath that doesn't want to go to jail, of course she's going to kill you. You figure he'd be smarter than that.

I completely forgot about Issak being a threat until he interrupted Dexter's lunch. I kind of want him to kidnap Hannah thinking he's taking someone Dexter cares about. Only he picked the wrong girl to kidnap. So he leaves Jurg to watch Hannah and she kills him, Dexter helps her escape and Issak now wonders what the fuck kind of people the two of them are.

Deb asking Dexter to kill Hannah was pretty awesome too. Which should lead to some interesting interactions between all of them. Dexter may be in love with the female liberated version of himself, his sister finally asks him to do what he does and can't. I'm really loving this season.

I also loved the serial killer humor when the motorcycle guy cut them off. A car full of serial killers is probably the wrong car to piss off.

Edited by Sakura12, Nov 12, 2012 @ 9:01 AM.

[rogaine2233]

The only way I'm interested in Quinn/Nadia is if it ties into Isaac, who will tie into Dexter/Hannah, somehow. So I'm waiting on that. Taking my thoughts on Dexter/Hannah to the Dexter thread.

[elliemama]

One thing marred an otherwise great episode for me:

Professional author Sal Price kept all his research on his hard drive? And didn't back it up anywhere else? Puh-leeze. That just makes Dexter look stupid.

[Mama No Life]

I'm enjoying the Hannah/Deb juxtaposition for Dexter....one who accepts him and one who doesn't. Now that Deb is coming around, I wonder if it will impact his feelings for Hannah. Those two are hot together. I've always felt a little squee when Dex has a love interest, but not with these two. Too bad she isn't long for this world.

I go back and forth over what's going to happen to LaGuerta, Batista, Quinn, Issak and Hannah. The joy is that I don't really care how it works out...I watch this show for Deb and Dex, and as long as they're on the screen, I can handle whatever they're doing. Well, maybe not making out, but other than that, I'm good.

[BartD]

Professional author Sal Price kept all his research on his hard drive? And didn't back it up anywhere else? Puh-leeze. That just makes Dexter look stupid.

The use of computers/laptops and all the information in them has been ridiculous since season one, where amongst others Dexter breaks into the psychiatrist's room where he conducts his sessions, finds his laptop (why leave it there?), instantly finds the folder with all the incriminating files (seriously?) and they instantly turn out to be video's proving the psychiatrist's guilt (again, seriously?), all in the span of, ooh, 30 seconds.

It's been going on like that for years, they just leave laptops and computers on everywhere for Dexter to find and break into. Hell, in season 1 he even knew in 5 seconds how to use the program needed to find cargo containers in the shipyard.

[anonymiss]

Interesting that Deb said, "Do what you do, Dexter" which echoes the same acceptance statement Hannah said on Dex's table: "Do what you gotta do."

[hadapurpura]

The DVO explained it perfectly. Lila was attracted to his darkness, Rita was blind to it and Lumen needed it. Hannah accepts everything about him.

"She accepts me" is also what the DVO thought about Lila and probably Lumen in the beginning as well. Also, "he accepts me" for Brian and Miguel. Hannah's basically Brian 2.0., and she'll be about as good news as he was.

On another note, they didn't check the miami Metro members with boats the first time around, did they?

Edited by hadapurpura, Nov 12, 2012 @ 11:12 AM.

[cerealboxkiller]

This show is such an insult to its viewers. I can't believe we're still getting this "villain/vagina of the season" stuff this far into the show. I thought this season would start approaching things differently since Deb now knows the truth, but it's like the writers have no idea how to do that. I feel like it's already back to the basics. They waited too late to have Deb find out. They should have done that in season five. But no, they let him bumble around for two seasons, and now I don't even care what happens to him. It's like, "Can they just lock him up please?"

[mk26]

The show cannot end until Dexter kills Lageurta while over-pronucing adios!

[hincandenza]

Sakura12: And there's really no other way to end a show about a serial killer. We know Dex won't go to jail.

I don't know- I think the final season would be interesting if season 7 ends with Dexter being fully found out and on the run, and the last season is his evasion of the law, then capture and trial, ending with him waiting on death row. There's a lot of meat on the stories of how the world that thought they knew him reacts to his reveal.

This was... decent, but like The Walking Dead you pretty much have to check your disbelief at the door. Hannah wouldn't just walk so easily- she was the second to last person to see him alive- the last being a cop- Price died the same way as three other people in Hannah's life, and Deb had already taken documented steps to exhume a previous body. Surely the author had backups elsewhere, and this theory is one he'd been working on for a while, so Deb's claim that Price had a theory Hannah poisoned he victims and then he ends up dead after confronting her wouldn't just be ignored by the police, nor would she get away with it so easily- besides a tox screen, a basic autopsy would surely show a healthy man with no signs of heart disease that would have led to a heart attack, and since there isn't really a magically undetectable poison they couldn't find, they'd turn something up in time. Not to mention Dexter's ham-fisted plan would never have worked with Sal; Price would just make his focus Dexter, and given how quickly he found a "mistake" in Dexter's blood work he'd no doubt have uncovered his secrets very quickly.

But hey, Strahovski is hot, Ray Stevenson is menacing, and since we've been watching this long and know there's only a season and a half left, we might as well veg out and enjoy the ride, however bumpy.

[Dougrhon]

Dexter will not kill LaGuerta. Anymore than he would kill Sal Price. But I can see Hannah doing it against his will or even trying to kill Deb. Then Dexter will kill her just as he killed Lila. I also considered the possibility that the last season would move beyond Miami Metro and have Dexter on the run also.