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Posted Oct 31, 2012 @ 5:55 PM

A violent storm allows a group of patients to plan a daring escape; Sister Jude is haunted by her past.


I'm not locking the thread, but please do not post in here until after the episode has aired.

Also, please call the characters by their Season 2 names. It's confusing to new viewers if you call them by their Season 1 names.

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Posted Oct 31, 2012 @ 10:04 PM

Anybody get a good look at the mutant in the woods?
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Posted Oct 31, 2012 @ 10:06 PM

Anybody get a good look at the mutant in the woods?


Well, there was definitely more than one. They looked like Sloth from The Goonies to me.
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Posted Oct 31, 2012 @ 10:14 PM

Looked kind of zombie-esque to me. What was the mutant that Sister Jude ran into?

Wow what a great episode. Jessica Lange was wonderful as she was unraveling and I am just absolutely loving Lily Rabe! She does possessed very well, IMO.

Did not expect another couple of sickos in the present day scenes. Adam Levine is pretty bad-ass...arm ripped off and stabbed and he can still save his wife. I will be surprised if he gets up after being shot in the head, though.
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Posted Oct 31, 2012 @ 10:16 PM

Was that a zombie???

I almost fainted at the end. Shelly's legs..I wasn't expecting that.

LOVE ZQ in this role so much.

I finally feel like I'm getting into this season now.
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Posted Oct 31, 2012 @ 11:03 PM

The present day storyline, so far, isn't really working for me at all. But everything else? Fantastic. I love how the structure of this episode mimics the storm that's on the periphery of every storyline; scenes seem to swirl around each other chaotically, with very little rhyme or reason, but that disorganization works to the episode's favor. Lily Rabe does play possessed extremely well.

There are at least three strange creatures in play, then: two outside, and whatever it was that Sister Jude saw (unless she imagined it?).

I'm curious to see how this all plays out--so far there is quite a bit going on, but I have faith there's some sort of endgame to it all. And as long as the ride is this damn exciting, I'm down.
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Posted Oct 31, 2012 @ 11:04 PM

Demon possession? Check.
Aliens? Check.
Serial killers? Check.
Crazy scientists? Check.
Mutant monsters? Check.

And all in one episode. There's a lot to digest this week, and my quick conclusion is that the only good guy in power appears to be ZQ (I forget his character's name). Other than him, the lunatics are running the asylum.
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Posted Oct 31, 2012 @ 11:18 PM

What was the mutant that Sister Jude ran into?

It looked like an alien to me. I wonder if they are coming for their chip.

When the escapees made it outside, I felt bad that they were so happy since there was no way they were going to escape.

Poor Shelly.

Okay, I'm confused. Adam Levine gets up, post-stabbing and attacks Bloody Face 1. He and his wife overpower BF 1 and stab him repeatedly. How does that guy then get up and shoot them? Is he wearing stab-proof clothing?
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Posted Oct 31, 2012 @ 11:27 PM

Okay, I'm confused. Adam Levine gets up, post-stabbing and attacks Bloody Face 1. He and his wife overpower BF 1 and stab him repeatedly. How does that guy then get up and shoot them? Is he wearing stab-proof clothing?

Maybe he stabbed real Bloody Face and not a fake Bloody Face. Of course real Bloody Face is your typical die hard monster.

As if zombies, aliens, mental patients, murders and satan aren't enough we need "Josef Mengele" too.
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Posted Oct 31, 2012 @ 11:28 PM

Do those guys pretending to be Bloody Face just hang out in the abandoned Briarcliff hoping people are going to trespass (and then attack/kill them)? Odd. The present-day stuff is so out of place and strange, and I can't really say that I care at all if Adam Levine or Jenna what's-her-face survive.

LOVING Lily Rabe and Jessica Lange right now. How on earth is Dr. Arden going to explain removing Chloe Sevigny's legs for no reason? On that note, what happens after he slices into Kit's skin? I think if someone were slicing into my skin without anesthesia TWICE, I'd be at my wits end, not casually going about my business like nothing was wrong. Odd.

In last week's episode, Grace (?) the "French" patient, says that she "knows what it's like" to have the people you care about throw you away. She allegedly killed her family, so what was that in reference to, I wonder?
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Posted Oct 31, 2012 @ 11:30 PM

This show is going to have to start coming together and show less torture/rape scenes. I don't like watching it. The first season was enjoyably surrealistic and campy. This season is just rotten and gross. There is no heart; no one to really root for besides Lana. The premise has so much potential, but it is just being executed in a horribly unflattering way. If the rape themes continue, I am going to have to peace out.

Edited by SunshineFix, Oct 31, 2012 @ 11:31 PM.

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Posted Oct 31, 2012 @ 11:32 PM

johchi I think what happened is Bloody Face #1 is the actual Bloody Face. Wife stabs him and they think he's dead ala Michael Myers.

They run out into the hall into Bloody Faces #2 & #3 who are actually two other horror-thrill seeking sickos like them. These guys are just dressed up like Bloody Face. They shoot Adam & Mrs. and then realize Adam's got an arm off. And then BF #2 & #3 run into the real BF #1!
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Posted Oct 31, 2012 @ 11:51 PM

First of all,
The first episode of "Asylum" was the most fucked up, gorgeously twisted, amazingly over-the-top, BEST episode of the series yet. Seeing some of the old characters in such wildly different roles was thrilling. (Nora as a submissive nun, Tate as mayyyybe a framed man, the heartbreaking story of the woman who was the psychologist from season one trying to cover up her relationship with her girlfriend in 1964 Mass.) and new characters (James Cromwell as the evil doctor, BLOODY FACE, etc. etc.) Queen Lange is the clear star once again, killing every scene she is in, chewing the scenery like a madwoman. She is amazing, my hero, etc.
The alien scenes were incredibly creepy when they could have been cheesy, and I have no idea what direction the series is going to go in, and I love that. I'm one hundred percent on board.

Ok, so the rest of the episodes.....I think they have been getting better with each episode, which is weird because Troll Murphy tends to fuck shows up, but THIS LATEST (THIRD) EPISODE?? Was fucking amazing. There's SO MUCH going on, and it's all intriguing and the character development is really, really good. Jessica Lange is the QUEEN of acting, once again. The rest of the acting is ALL great, especially Lily Rabe. Omg her satanic fierceness this season. I'm lovin' it so far!
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Posted Nov 1, 2012 @ 12:00 AM

I actually think that all Bloody Faces up until after the couple were dead were fake ones. I think the fakers were a group of three. Didn't the guy who shot them say something about that being what they got for killing [name] when his friend was freaking out afterwards?
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Posted Nov 1, 2012 @ 12:14 AM

Poor poor shelly; I hope she manages some form of revenge by the end of the season.

Also I was highly unimpressed with Lange's big scene with the introduction of the film. I was hoping for a big moment where she would talk about the film as if it was something that helped her decide to become a nun, but we got her as a sloppy drunk with a semi-inspired message to her prisoners that went nowhere...
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Posted Nov 1, 2012 @ 12:23 AM

I actually think that all Bloody Faces up until after the couple were dead were fake ones. I think the fakers were a group of three. Didn't the guy who shot them say something about that being what they got for killing [name] when his friend was freaking out afterwards?

I just re-watched the scene, and you're right Eviltwinpixie. He says "that's what they get for stabbing Joe." I completely missed that. So there were three fakers, and the "real" BF, or at least another faker who isn't with them. Plus, there's the arm-ripping monster (unless that was also done by real BF).

I wonder how long it will take them to figure out Sister Mary Eunice is possessed. The devil is doing a good job of turning Sister Jude and Dr. Arden even more against each other.

Edited by johchi, Nov 1, 2012 @ 12:25 AM.

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Posted Nov 1, 2012 @ 12:38 AM

So along with mutants, aliens, sexual deviants, murderers, the criminally insane, and demons, we now have now added Boxing Shelley into the mix? This show is balls to the wall crazy....and I am not hating that.

When it was announced that Lily Rabe would be in season 2 I was happy, and boy is she delivering. The whole cast is really good, I love that so many excellent character actors, along with impressive (relative) newcomers, are on this show.

I think they have been getting better with each episode, which is weird because Troll Murphy tends to fuck shows up, but THIS LATEST (THIRD) EPISODE?? Was fucking amazing.

An anthology series is the perfect platform for someone like Ryan Murphy, since he is known for writing brilliant/pretty damn good first seasons and losing interest soon after.
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Posted Nov 1, 2012 @ 12:54 AM

we now have now added Boxing Shelley into the mix?


I thought I'm the only one who got the "Boxing Helena" reference. I didn't want to admit it because I feel old for knowing that film. LOL.

And this episode is depressing, bleak, and horrifying all around. Just the perfect horror episode for Halloween. Shelley's fate is completely horrifying and I wish nothing but bad omen on the sick doctor. And what were those things chasing Kit, Grace, and Lana Banana? I couldn't help but LOLing though seeing their horrified pale face post encounter.
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Posted Nov 1, 2012 @ 12:57 AM

The present day storyline, so far, isn't really working for me at all. But everything else? Fantastic.



I almost agree. Present day is boring as hell and, starting next episode, I will be fast forwarding through that mess. I would say that everything else was fantastic, but then they through in more rape scenes. I really don't need that. Besides, Law and Order SVU has been on network tv for about 250 years now, so the exploitation of sexual violence for entertainment is a well traveled path. AHS writers should try harder. Don't they know the best parts are Jessica L and Lily R due to the character development and amazing writing and acting? Focus on that and stop with the rape scenes. It doesn't add "grit", it just forces me to tune out and there are other ways of showing the doctor as perverted.

Edited by GrrlPower, Nov 1, 2012 @ 10:29 AM.

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Posted Nov 1, 2012 @ 1:01 AM

Welp, I think this is the end of the line for me. I just find this iteration of the series is too gross, too glum, too mean and just icky LOL. I feel like I've been abused watching it. Good luck to the rest of you!
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Posted Nov 1, 2012 @ 1:16 AM

And all in one episode. There's a lot to digest this week, and my quick conclusion is that the only good guy in power appears to be ZQ (I forget his character's name).


Hah, ten bucks says he's Bloody Face. (Totally blue skying that one, no spoiler!)

This one was MESSED UP with a capital MESSED UP. That Cecil B., he got a lotta fucked up shit on screen. I was watching the movie going "okay, um, Rome signed off on this? Really? Did they watch it at all?"

Poor Shelly. She's as much a heroine as Lana and she got it so much worse. And the worst apparently is yet to come!

Dr. Arden's character has gone so over the top I really don't know where they can go from here. He's got huge mommy issues (I bet his mom mutilated him!) and huge purity issues and huge brain issues and he's just seven feet of ISSUES. James Cromwell's doing a great job with some really offputting material but I'm getting a lot more Show's Creator Has Some Big Time Problems With Women more then Dr. Arden Is Evil with his scenes.

Seriously, show, enough with the Goddamn rape scenes. You're trying to walk a line between titillating camp and horrifying reality and you've got just enough of both to insult the viewer's intelligence.

Sister Jude knocking back the Blood of Christ and announcing her woozy guilt trips was the best part of the episode. Oh, and Sister Eunice all put out about the missing patients: "But the Christians are about to be eaten!"

Edited by Snookums, Nov 1, 2012 @ 1:17 AM.

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Posted Nov 1, 2012 @ 1:24 AM

So, first Clea Duvall's Wendy gets off'ed and now Chloe Sevigny's Shelly gets mutilated. One of the main reasons I tuned in for Season 2 was because of these two very talented actresses. Dang!

Having said that, this being my first season with American Horror Story, I'm interested but still getting a sense for the show. I'll keep watching though; the actors in this show have been extremely fantastic.

Poor poor shelly; I hope she manages some form of revenge by the end of the season.

Word on this!
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Posted Nov 1, 2012 @ 2:28 AM

How on earth is Dr. Arden going to explain removing Chloe Sevigny's legs for no reason?


They explained it: everyone thinks Shelley escaped and he's holding her in his private lab, which apparently no one has access to but him.
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Posted Nov 1, 2012 @ 3:01 AM

Good episode. Lots of batshit crazy goodness to go around.

Jessica Lange's drunk Jude was great. Maybe I'm immature, but a usually pious and drunk nun staggering around and using the G-D word was funny to me.

Satan is pretty funny in Sister Mary Eunice too. She's messing with the whole lot of them. Too bad those escaped patients interfered with her enjoyment of the Christian BBQ movie. But I can't believe the church was okay with showing it. It appeared to have a lot of sexual content.

I cracked up at the escaped patients being obviously rain soaked after returning to their seats. It was a good thing Sister Jude was trashed or poor Kit wouldn't be walking right for a month.

Poor Shelly. She sacrificed a lot for the group in hopes of eventually getting out of there. Will the rest of the group start questioning what happened to her? Plus that rape scene was too disturbing.

I think Adam Levine will be back next week. He has already survived having an arm off and getting stabbed. Why not survive a bullet? It's probably just a flesh wound! I think he's the Black Knight AHS.

Edited by sallybreeze, Nov 1, 2012 @ 3:02 AM.

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Posted Nov 1, 2012 @ 3:02 AM

I'm still wondering about the alien Sister Jude saw. I wonder if it implanted something in her?

The alien looked fucking weird by the way, not scary. It looked like a balloon.
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Posted Nov 1, 2012 @ 4:03 AM

OK, I clearly need to rewatch, because I don't even remember Sister Jude seeing an alien.

So, I guess Kit never actually acknowledged seeing the spider chip thingy, which means it could be in Doctor Crazy Pants's head.

Doctor Crazy Pants is a sadistic, possibly schizophrenic, psychopath with a small dick? Yep, pretty sure I dated that guy.
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Posted Nov 1, 2012 @ 5:45 AM

I actually think that all Bloody Faces up until after the couple were dead were fake ones. I think the fakers were a group of three. Didn't the guy who shot them say something about that being what they got for killing [name] when his friend was freaking out afterwards?


You are correct. Thanks for clarifying. So arm ripper is now after fake BF #2 & 3, I guess.
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Posted Nov 1, 2012 @ 7:21 AM

I'm curious to see how this all plays out--so far there is quite a bit going on, but I have faith there's some sort of endgame to it all. And as long as the ride is this damn exciting, I'm down.

I'm with you. I watched all six seasons of Lost because the acting was superb, the characters well-drawn, and the plotlines maddeningly intriguing. I had faith in the endgame, and that's where they failed. If I stuck it out for six years there, I can certainly watch a show with all the same characteristics for one season, and if there's a payoff? Great. If not, I've still been entertained.

Speaking of acting, Lily Rabe is giving Jessica Lange a run for her money this year. James Cromwell does evil so very well.

And the reveal of Shelly's surgery gave me my first real, gasping-in-horror scare of this season.
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Posted Nov 1, 2012 @ 8:00 AM

Not enough Kit this week. Unless you count the scenes of him screaming in the rain, which I don't. We didn't get the obligatory ass shot, either. Disappoint...

Sister Mary Eunice and her Powers of Paranoia. Would make a great supervillian. Super Levine's arch nemesis! Seriously, can that guy die?
Why was she able to pray with the "Mexican" (I hate to call her that, but she didn't have a name, even in the credits) when prayer was what got the demon expelled from Jed Potter?

Funny how the Nor'easter coincided with our own present day Sandy. And they think the missing people are the Mexican lady, Shelley and the Pinheaded girl. What happens when the last one makes her way out of the bathroom?

Looks like Shelley will be the next of Dr. Arden's mutants, legless though she may be. Not sure how that's gonna work.
How the heck did he find that runaway chip in that mess of an office of his?

And now Sister Jude is seeing aliens. Ha! Bet she's not the only one doubting Kit's innocence now. Could the implanted chip have something to do with what Kit saw? Like he had the chip and saw the aliens, and now Sister Jude got a chunk of it burrowed into her, just enough to see that alien flash while drunk? Doesn't explain how Kit initially got the chip, but it kinda explains why Jude saw one.

Is it wrong that I was hoping one of the mutants would get Lana? I'm not sure why, but she bugged me this ep. She went from being this strong female character to this simpering, Mr. Rogers sweater wearing, B-movie screamer. I'm hoping this was just a one ep turnaround for me, since I really have nothing against her.

Nice one, with the writers trying to throw us for a loop, having Mrs. Channing and the One Armed Levineman killed by a couple of Pseudo-Faces and then being attacked by the real one. Although, we still have no idea who it really it.
I was thinking, in the preview for next week, Dr. Arden says Shelley will 'live forever' after she gets the injection he's about to give her. Bloody Face has got to be one of his creations who's now living forever and is somehow impossible (or at least very hard) to kill.
Bloody Face Forever!

Dr. Arden rubbing his tiny staff squicked me out more than anything else this ep. It's like seeing my grampa get it on. Ick.

[Jessica Lange was]chewing the scenery like a madwoman

That drunk scene was too much. :D I loved how everyone basically chalked it off as her weirdness and no one accused her of being on anything.

Dr. Arden's character has gone so over the top I really don't know where they can go from here. He's got huge mommy issues (I bet his mom mutilated him!)

Maybe she's why his weiner is so small. "You're like, seven feet tall!" I LOLed.

Poor Shelly. She sacrificed a lot for the group in hopes of eventually getting out of there. Will the rest of the group start questioning what happened to her?

Man, I hope so. They don't actually know (yet) what kept her from joining them, but they'd better try and find her, after what she did for them.

You are correct. Thanks for clarifying. So arm ripper is now after fake BF #2 & 3, I guess.

I don't think Bloody Face ripped off Super Levine's arm. That monster was in the room he stuck his cell phone into, and the first BFF was at the end of the tunnel. Not that transporting through space and time have anything on bad guys. But didn't one of the Psuedo-Faces say, "Hey, someone ripped his arm off", like they were surprised. I don't think actually killing the newlyweds was in the plans initially, and bleeding from limb removal sounds like a sure way to die (unless you're Super Levine, of course).

I also want to know what aa "enormous whoopsie" is. ???

Edited by TWoP Tennison, Nov 1, 2012 @ 12:39 PM.
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Posted Nov 1, 2012 @ 8:20 AM

From the first two episodes I wasn't too sure about this season. But this episode was awesome! I'm loving devil Sister Mary Eunice and how she's making Dr. Arden and Sister Jude face their sins.

I guess having a zombies running around the woods is a good way to make sure your patients don't escape. And I agree, the trio better try to find out what happened to Shelly.

I'm going with ZQ is Bloody Face.
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