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[aquarian1]

I'm getting similar issues to possibilities, but just on "The Voice" forums. It started this morning. When I click on the getnewpost icon, or the thread name, in the main forum or from View New Content, this happens. It takes me to what looks like the last page, but there's nothing there (first screen shot below). Then if I click on the "previous page" arrow, the page numbers actually appear, but it's still blank (2nd screen shot below). Then, if I click on the last page number, posts finally appear (last screen shot).

screen shot 1
screen shot 2
screen shot 3

I tried to get around this by clicking the date/time link to getLASTpost and then page up, but when I do that I get the redirection to a page that never loads. It's really odd, because the forum page mostly loads, down to seeing the appropriate post, and then just when you think it's done it redirects to a page that never loads.

ETA: Using Chrome/Windows 7, and using Chrome/Windows XP, and using Firefox/Windows 7. Even after deleting cookies.

Edited by aquarian1, May 9, 2012 @ 1:27 PM.

[Glory]

Yes, aquarian, that is what I was trying to say before. Your screenshots are exactly what I got. It happened to me in the Glee forums.

Just realized that my original post on this issue was in the "New Forum Issues" thread. But, wanted to re-iterate that you are not alone.

Edited by Glory, May 9, 2012 @ 3:06 PM.

[selkie]

I'm getting around the forums fine for the most part, but am also having problems with The Voice thread- when I click on the icon to take me to the last unread post, it takes me to the end of the thread instead. (Other threads seem to be working just fine)

Mac 10.6.8 and Firefox browser.

[KerleyQ]

I'm getting the same issue on The Voice forums, also using Firefox/Windows 7. It started happening last night, shortly after the finale aired.

[amyingeorgia]

We've been discussing it for the last two pages. Just scroll up.

Thanks! I have been reading but wasn't able to find an official post that explains what the new icons signify. I've read the discussion about the envelope changes, and basically, I'm looking for a pictogram (?) or key that explains the different new icons and what they mean.

[Puds38]

I've read the discussion about the envelope changes, and basically, I'm looking for a pictogram (?) or key that explains the different new icons and what they mean.

There's been no official word, just posters reporting how it's working for them. I would assume it's tech and/or Strega working on things behind the scenes. However you can get the general idea of what they are for from the posts concerning them.

[Glory]

For amyingeorgia and anyone else confused. This is how it's been working for me.

1 -- Large, Bright yellow folder icon = New Posts in a thread I have never posted in
2 -- Large, Pale yellow folder icon = No unread posts in a thread I have never posted in
3 -- Tiny, pale yellow folder icon = A thread I have posted in (may or may not have new posts)

As a sure-fire way to tell if a thread has new posts, look for the little arrow next to the title (circled).

[aquarian1]

Also, from that screen shot, it looks like there are new posts in "1-19: "Absolution" 2012.05.02", and that you have posted in that thread before. And the bottom two have no unread posts, and you have NOT posted in those. (The first one is darker than the bottom 2).

ETA: I messed up - see post below from smrou for better explanation.

Edited by aquarian1, May 10, 2012 @ 8:11 AM.

[smrou]

And the bottom two have no unread posts, and you have NOT posted in those. (The first one is darker than the bottom 2).

No, I think the bottom two have no unread posts but she has posted in those (because if she hadn't posted in them they'd have the big old-style envelopes instead of the new style ones).



Basically it works like this:
Threads you've posted in have the new style envelopes.
Threads you haven't posted in have the old style envelopes.

Both types of envelopes change color based on whether there are new posts, though the change in color is MUCH more obvious with the old type. But whether or not you've posted in the thread just determines the type of envelope.

[aquarian1]

No, I think the bottom two have no unread posts but she has posted in those (because if she hadn't posted in them they'd have the big old-style envelopes instead of the new style ones).

Doh! I said it wrong, but I knew that. I was really trying to differentiate the colors of threads that were posted in. Which you just did and much better.

[Glory]

Basically it works like this:
Threads you've posted in have the new style envelopes.
Threads you haven't posted in have the old style envelopes.

Both types of envelopes change color based on whether there are new posts, though the change in color is MUCH more obvious with the old type. But whether or not you've posted in the thread just determines the type of envelope.

Yes! That's it.

I'm getting used to the envelopes slowly but surely. But it takes me a few minutes to figure it out. Mostly I navigate from "my content" which is all posts I've made so it makes it a bit easier.

[akg]

I'm really hoping the small envelopes for threads we've posted in is temporary. My brain keeps missing them in favor of the big envelopes and I get confused. The current set up is counterintuitive. Either all of the envelopes should be big or the ones for the threads we've posted in should be.

[amyingeorgia]

Thanks so much, everyone! This breakdown really helps, and it particularly helps me realize it's not just my lack of intelligence that's causing me difficulty. Typically, I do just fine figuring things out on my own, but I'm really having a hard time reading on my laptop with this upgrade. I can't really distinguish a difference in colors of the envelopes with new posts. It's weird. I'm not complaining because I actually am fine with everything other than I can't easily tell what the hell is going on. But, that's on me. I might just stick with my iPhone to read TWOP because the mobile version makes total intuitive sense for me.

[Chicken Wing]

Both types of envelopes change color based on whether there are new posts, though the change in color is MUCH more obvious with the old type.

I can't really distinguish a difference in colors of the envelopes with new posts. It's weird.

Not weird at all, and this is my biggest issue with the new icons. The shades of yellow for "threads you've posted in - new posts" and "threads you've posted in - no new posts" are virtually indistinguishable to me as well. It's light yellow versus slightly lighter yellow. I always have to check the column listing the time the last post was made and then try to remember if I checked the thread after that time.

It made much more sense before with the same style envelopes for everything, bright yellow for new posts, pale yellow/almost white for no new posts, and a little dot or arrow next to the envelope to indicate that you've posted there. The current icons are not working out too well for me thus far. :)

Edited by Chicken Wing, May 10, 2012 @ 2:53 PM.

[Bastet Esq]

The shades of yellow for "threads you've posted in - new posts" and "threads you've posted in - no new posts" are virtually indistinguishable to me as well. It's light yellow versus slightly lighter yellow. I always have to check the column listing the time the last post was made and then try to remember if I checked the thread after that time.

The colors are difficult to distinguish, but if you go by the presence or absence of the little arrow in front of the thread title, you won't have to try to remember the timing.

Initially, I assumed the newly-returned envelope icons would replace the post-upgrade folder icons across the board, but now I'm wondering if having one pair of icons for threads in which one has posted and another pair for threads in which one has never participated is intended to be permanent, since several posters lamented the loss of the old "I've posted here" indicator when the changes were first revealed. If that is, in fact, the intention, I stand with those who feel it's counter-intuitive; I would think the familiar, larger, easily distinguisable envelope icons would be better suited to threads in which one has posted.

Edited by Bastet Esq, May 10, 2012 @ 3:19 PM.

[Chicken Wing]

I would think the familiar, larger, easily distinguisable envelope icons would be better suited to threads in which one has posted.

I agree. The larger, brighter envelopes catch your attention right away. It makes more sense to me for them to convey the message "This is a thread for you! You've posted in here before, so you must want to look at it again!" Meanwhile, the smaller, pale-colored envelopes are better suited for threads you've never posted in and probably don't pay much attention to so it's better to not have it distracting you.

It's currently the opposite situation and it just seems wrong -- my attention is immediately drawn to threads I've never posted in and don't read, while the ones I do read and post in fade into the background coloring.

Edited by Chicken Wing, May 10, 2012 @ 3:35 PM.

[smrou]

If that is, in fact, the intention, I stand with those who feel it's counter-intuitive; I would think the familiar, larger, easily distinguisable envelope icons would be better suited to threads in which one has posted.

Agree!

I've been assuming the old style envelopes will eventually be applied to all threads. But it's been in its current configuration for long enough now that I feel a lot less confident in that assumption. So in that case if there are going to be the two different types of envelopes I would definitely prefer that the big ones go on the threads I've posted in. They stand out more so would draw my eye to the threads I'm more interested in.

[taiko]

Me too on Chrome and Android. Also on the Dancing With the Stars board. It seems to be everywhere there is a sticky on a page's first post announcing a weecap

[shapeshifter]

I agree with everyone that the icons are counter-intuitive and not very legible.
But since the pinned message still has this...

Currently working on:
...

• Icons will be changed so it's easier to distinguish read/unread/etc.
  ....

...I guess there's hope.
As someone who can do CSS and PhotoShop in my sleep, this seems like an easy fix...technically speaking.
But as someone who also is employed by an institution, I know sometimes these things never get fixed due to issues of fear, trust, liability, etc.
I mean, nobody wants to risk losing a job because someone else screwed things up. So if the person who is responsible for the icons doesn't have the skill set to fix them, that person is not likely going to be able to identify who does have that skill set, and is not going to want to give away the keys to the kingdom of forum icons to just anyone who seems eager to give it a go.
So, I'm resigned to not being able to distinguish the folder icons here, not being able to read the font on the announcement screen at my job, and the fact that eventually we may all become extinct because someone moved a widget to the wrong side of a desk or desktop.

In the mean time, I do really appreciate that this forum manages to keep on truckin' and being a place where civil discourse on the content of media can occur.

[amyingeorgia]

I figured out what continues to throw me off (I think!). At first after the upgrade, I was having difficulty distinguishing between the new content vs. no new content folders(?) on the main page, but I had finally gotten adjusted to the slight difference. THEN, recently, the old style envelopes suddenly came back to indicate threads I've not posted to, and the big old folders are now interspersed with the new style envelopes since I don't post in a majority of threads. With the big, old style envelopes all down the page, I no longer have the two folders of the threads I'm participating in (those w/new content vs. no new content) next to each other so I can tell the difference. In the mobile version, this difference is extremely clear (white vs. black clear). I realize this is very different platforms. My problem might only make sense to me, but I think I've figured it out and have resigned to failing eyesight.

Also, thanks to Glory and others who pointed out the arrows next to the thread title that indicate a thread's new content. This info helps me tremendously. Thanks for taking the time to walk me through my confusion.

Edited by amyingeorgia, May 11, 2012 @ 12:55 AM.

[4815162342]

The colors are difficult to distinguish, but if you go by the presence or absence of the little arrow in front of the thread title, you won't have to try to remember the timing.

This is only true in the "public" forums. In the personal list of watched topics, which a lot of people use, the little arrow in front of the title does not and will never exist. So we do have to either strain our eyes to guess which pale yellow the folder (not envelope) is or try to keep track of timing.

As a side note to this topic of icons, in the mobile version, not only is the new post / no new posts icon clearly distinguishable, but there is a little triangle in the icon for the threads I have posted in. So that's nice. Too bad that in the mobile version the thread titles in Manage Watched Topics takes me to the first page of the thread (just like the full version), there is no way to jump to the last page of the thread (unlike the full version), and I can't access my saved notifications (unlike the full version).

[YpsiYvonne]

For amyingeorgia and anyone else confused. This is how it's been working for me.

1 -- Large, Bright yellow folder icon = New Posts in a thread I have never posted in
2 -- Large, Pale yellow folder icon = No unread posts in a thread I have never posted in
3 -- Tiny, pale yellow folder icon = A thread I have posted in (may or may not have new posts)

As a sure-fire way to tell if a thread has new posts, look for the little arrow next to the title (circled).

Ha ha. I thought that little arrow next to the title was a mapleleaf. Guess my 42-year-old eyes are finally showing their age!!

Thanks Glory!!!

Edited by YpsiYvonne, May 11, 2012 @ 9:24 PM.

[FrogsRule]

Something strange and new just happened. It's actually the second time it's happened. First time I thought I had done something.

I read the CSI:NY episode thread for 5/4/2012, then hit the CSI:NY link to return to the forum so I could read the 5/11/2012 thread. When it took me back, it had removed the new posts icon from in front of the 5/11/2012 thread, but I had not yet read that thread. I had NOT hit "mark this forum as read" (the reason I didn't post this the first time this happened - I thought maybe I had inadvertently done so).

Also bizarrely, TWoP somehow reset the compatibility dealie for me (without my doing so). Because all of a sudden, people's names were being halved. I know others had had trouble with that for a long time, but I never had. At least I knew to switch back compatibility mode. But it just seemed odd that something that went on behind the scenes would change my settings, or make it behave opposite of how it should.

IE9, Windows 7 Professional.

[TWoP Howard]

FrogsRule, I’ve had the same thing happen with threads being marked as read before I’d actually read them. It’s only been happening this week; overall, the Mark Read function has been working much, much better than before the upgrade, both with using the command, and with just reading a thread and going back to the thread list. Threads have been staying marked as read.

[tankgirl73]

Hi! Hopefully this is the right place to bring this up, please let me know where to put it if it isn't. :)

This issue is something that's happened to me twice now, once was a month or two ago and then again just now. I was typing up a reply in a forum to post. When I hit 'submit' it took me to a warning page -- letting me know about a warning I'd incurred (minor things, but legitimate, I goofed and deserved the reprimand) and I had to click a button to show that I understood and acknowledged the warning. It said that when I click that button, it would take me back to the page I'd been browsing.

The thing is, it took me back to the forum page I was browsing, but my post was gone -- it didn't submit it and it didn't keep it in the reply window. All the care I'd put into typing it up, and it's just POOF gone with no warning (ironically, heehee). There was nothing to indicate to me that this reply was any different than any other and that I should save it.

I know there are lots of websites that manage to store form-submitted information even when going back-and-forth through pages. I would think that since this warning page only seems to be activated by when you try to make a post while under a warning, that it should save the post I worked so hard on :( I don't see why the coding shouldn't be able to forward the form content on through.

Is this an issue others are experiencing?

[ccridernyc]

For the past week when I go to RHoNJ thread from the Candid Reality list, it opens to the pinned post only, from there I have to re-open by choosing a page #. Weird. And it's weird enough in there as it is. IE9 Win 7

Not experiencing this with any other thread.

[FoolishWanderer]

I've never experienced that, tankgirl. But whenever I write a post, I always copy it to the clipboard before submitting. For some reason, my virus scanner really doesn't like TWOP.

[ccridernyc]

I've never experienced that specifically tankgirl, but I do feel your pain regarding the loss of a carefully crafted critique. I'd like to think they're all up in Post Heaven reading each other.

[FrogsRule]

TWoP Howard, if it's happening to you too, that's a good thing, because that means that Strega and crew will be able to replicate the error easier than if it's just me reporting it. :-)

[Alexandria Bay]

I thought that little arrow next to the title was a mapleleaf.

Oh thank God. I thought I was the only one who didn't know it was an arrow until I read it here. I was even rationalizing the maple leaf, because Glark is Canadian. Like it was a tribute or something.

It is a very small icon.

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Edited by Alexandria Bay, May 14, 2012 @ 10:35 AM.