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[2MuchTV]

EMILY'S PLAN LANDS AMANDA DIRECTLY IN THE LION'S DEN AND IN IMMINENT DANGER, ON ABC'S "REVENGE"

"Intuition" - Playing with the Graysons is definitely playing with fire, and Amanda learns that the hard way. Meanwhile Emily and Aiden each get blindsided, and the wheels start turning as Daniel begins to take matters into his own hands, on "Revenge," SUNDAY, OCTOBER 21 (9:00-10:01 p.m., ET), on the ABC Television Network.

"Revenge" stars Madeleine Stowe as Victoria Grayson, Emily VanCamp as Emily Thorne, Gabriel Mann as Nolan Ross, Henry Czerny as Conrad Grayson, Ashley Madekwe as Ashley Davenport, Nick Wechsler as Jack Porter, Josh Bowman as Daniel Grayson, Christa B. Allen as Charlotte Grayson and Connor Paolo as Declan Porter.

Guest cast includes Margarita Levieva as Amanda Clarke, Jennifer Jason Leigh as Kara Wallace Clarke, Barry Sloane as Aiden Mathis, Alyvia Alyn Lind as five-year old Amanda, Dilshad Vadsaria as Padma Lahari, JR Bourne as Kenny Ryan, Michael Nardelli as Trey Chandler, Wendy Crewson as Helen, Peter James Smith as ER doctor, Christina Chang as Carrie Thurgood, Brittany Phillips as Destiny, Alejandro Furth as inspector, Maggie Mae Reid as assistant and Danny Vasquez as EMT.

"Intuition" was written by Dan Dworkin and Jay Beattie, and directed by Randy Zisk.

Edited by TWoP Mars, Oct 22, 2012 @ 11:06 PM.

[gingercharm21]

That was really fucked up of Emily, Victoria, and Jack. I feel really bad for Amanda. Does Emily even give a shit about who she uses and manipulates? I'm going to be irritated if this ends with Amanda conveniently dying and Emily living happily ever after with Jack and the baby.

Prediction: Amanda will either wake up when the show needs an inconvenient plot twist, or someone will "mysteriously" kill her and Emily will feel guilty (as she should) and swear revenge on whoever did it.

Edited by gingercharm21, Oct 21, 2012 @ 9:40 PM.

[yuggapukka]

Ugh. if long-suffering Jack Poorter becomes a noble single Dad, I'll puke.

I don't have much use for Padma so far, but seeing Nolan compromising himself with someone who is not an obvious creep was quite nice. Much better than Tyler or getting hit on by Jack's skanky grilfriend.

Edited by yuggapukka, Oct 21, 2012 @ 9:14 PM.

[MrSarahWalker]

Emily VanCamp's cleavage deserves an emmy!

Something interesting needs to happen with Padma like yesterday. I can't envision a possible resolution to this Amanda, jack and baby storyline that will make me feel good.

Edited by MrSarahWalker, Oct 21, 2012 @ 9:08 PM.

[Elle45]

I felt sorry for Amanda as well.

Victoria is beyond evil...as usual.

[Sedruol]

A lot to process from this episode. I don't know why Jack didn't immediately reach out to Nolan about the bar troubles and his brother's indiscretion. What it would take to clear the debt is chump change. It seems like Jack and Declan were set up from the start - why does that shady guy want to buy the bar?

I sincerely hope Padma is a "good" person in this universe, because I really would like for Nolan to have someone in his corner for a change who's not trying to double cross him.

How heartbreaking for Emanda to find out that her mom was trying to kill her. How disillusioning. And I'm sure she's seeing how her actions have brought harm to Jack and Amily that she never intended.

Don't get why Daniel was still with Ashley at the end ... isn't the fact that she was spying on him enough reason to distance himself? Somehow I think she's still in Conrad's pocket especially since Daniel gave away all his inheritance to Charlotte.

Still not sure what to make of Aidan, but I kind of resent this character taking away from Nolan/Emanda time.

[housekeeper]

Yea about Jack and Emily :-) I'm aware I'm in the minority but I cannot stand Emily with Daniel and find him the biggest asswipe *rolleyes*

Edited by housekeeper, Oct 21, 2012 @ 9:30 PM.

[2MuchTV]

I love how good this show is at milking the suspense. Amanda's fall was telegraphed from the opening moments, but knowing it was going to happen only made me more tense and filled with dread waiting for it to happen. And knowing it would didn't make the moment any less awful. Well played, writers.

Ugh, poor Amanda. Although it does make the story much more complex with Emily's actions hurting more people than just the bad guys.

[Elle45]

I agree.

What's the point of Nolan's storyline? I guess he is no longer Emily's sidekick in Revenge and now he needs something else to do.

[dreamer55]

I thought the blood would be something innocent, like Amily had somehow given birth there. Guess not! Although her falling over the railing was like something out of Dynasty. Really, writers? If Amily wakes up with amnesia, I swear...

Someone here totally called it last week on Declan's buddy working with the theft "victim." I don't understand why they're targeting the Porters, though. Hopefully it's something interesting.

The first scene with Padma and Nolan, where she's all, "Why didn't you tell me about your father?!?" was beyond stupid. Because he's known you for week, he's gonna pour out his heart? You're supposed to know his entire family history? Jeez. SLOW YOUR ROLL, HOMEGIRL. But I liked Nolan falling over the boxes - he's so adorable and I want to hug him. Still, the Padma thing appears, so far, to serve no purpose.

If Emanda suddenly had a flashback of her mother trying to kill her, then why did she allow Kara to stay in the room with Amily? My first reaction would be to assume that she'd try to kill her again. We all know Kara is cray-cray.

Ashley, Conrad, Daniel - YAAAAWN.

Now Emanda has to deal with massive guilt. It was her fault that Amily was confronting Victoria. This is the most direct and serious way that she's hurt someone she cares about. I wonder how, if at all, it will alter her plans.

Edited by dreamer55, Oct 21, 2012 @ 9:29 PM.

[cordy123]

I only caught the last half tonight, but even still, Amily's pregnant backward dive off the banister is jumping the shark for me. I can accept a 20 year-old dog, a woman who falls off a building and is walking around like nothing happened in about 8 weeks, a woman who has either been pregnant for 12 months or remotely conceived while hanging with a professional vengeance instructor in Japan. But I can't handle pregnant ladies falling over bannisters.

I'll still probably watch, cause it's fun. But I'm not going to care anymore.

[KissedByARose]

What's the point of Nolan's storyline? I guess he is no longer Emily's sidekick in Revenge and now he needs something else to do.

I guess but I don't like it and it did not fit in with this episode (show). I don't hate her but she's kind of useless and I don't really care about the business of Nolcorp.

I also don't care about Jack and his problems and I'm baffled as to what his presence has to do with anything. Baby storylines are never good. Ever.

[Midru]

Glad Nolan hooked up with Padma. Hoping now that she's not a spy and just a wholesome love interest.

More Graysons, please. They are the characters, aside from Amanda, I find most interesting. If you are going to add stuff, please start explaining the Initiative.

That Mom drowning Amanda stuff was crazy. I really don't know what to think of the mom or any of her story. Aidan still bores the crap out of me.

Hated Amily falling so much I actually felt a little nauseous when I watched it.

Amanda as cold ass bitch was worse than ever. Telling the doctor to save the baby at the expense of Amily just seemed so ugly. Why would she care about this baby? Wouldn't she rather have her own baby with Jack?

I no longer feel Amanda cares about Amily at all, and her expressions of friendship toward Nolan could just as easily be self serving as real. When she went down the corridor to look for Amily I figured she was going to try to kill her!

Edited by Midru, Oct 21, 2012 @ 9:40 PM.

[yuggapukka]

I wish the show hadn't telegraphed that Fauxmanda was going to tumble over the railing with that shot establishing just how precariously she was situated. I think that was poorly done. Kara at Fauxmnda's bedside creeped me out, even without the flashback of her pushing a terrified wee Emily/Amanda underwater.

I think Daniel might be waking up from his lifelong-rich-boy slumber and is *gasp* playing Ashley.

[Bringonthedrama]

Seemed like Emanda was so stunned and devastated by the flashback that she just ran without thinking.

I assume Daniel is now 'playing' Ashley. If he stopped sleeping with her, she would think something's wrong. Daniel eavesdropping on that conversation was just him confirming that Ashley believes what he's telling her. Seems like he will still want Emanda back ... at some point in the future.

EVC is doing a great of showing Emanda's heartbreak, guilt, rage and feelings of abandonment. The air in those hospital scenes was charged with her guilt, as well as Jack's (he didn't really want to be a dad, doesn't love Amily, has feelings for Emanda).

[2MuchTV]

Amanda as cold ass bitch was worse than ever. Telling the doctor to save the baby at the expense of Amily just seemed so ugly. Why would she care about this baby? Wouldn't she rather have her own baby with Jack?

Amily specifically told her when they were putting her in the ambulance to have them save the baby, exactly like Emanda told them in the hospital. It was what Amily wanted, not Emanda.

[happyhippy]

Padma seemed really interested in that framed check/receipt/whatever the hell it was from David Clark. I'm really not digging her story with Nolan and I'm terrified he's going to get hurt once again. And I just can't buy the fact that his company is suddenly falling apart at the seams.

[Ferocita72]

It seems pretty obvious to me that Padma's storyline was always going to lead to her discovering David Clarke's role in helping Nolan start Nolcorp. If the company is being audited, they will want to know if a KNOWN TERRORIST was a major donor. Will Padma keep the secret? Will Amanda/Emily's stake in the company become known? It brings up all sorts of drama for our characters while tying the David Clarke exoneration storyline back in with everything else that has been going on this season.

I suspect that the con being run on the extremely poor and extremely dumb Porters has to do with the bar being on some sort of prime real estate, it can't have been a coincidence that the woman from the initiative mentioned the swamp land and loss of profit when talking to Connor right?? I was surprisingly moved by Declan and Charlotte at the end. Maybe she could pay off the debt?

I know that I should feel worse about Amily but I really don't. She knew the deal coming out of juvie and yet after Frank she came right into the middle of Emanda's plan. She could have had a nice, cushy life with a partner somewhere else but instead she pursued a relationship with Jack that was based on exploiting his obvious feelings for the real Amanda Clarke. I don't think it was wrong of Emanda to lie about the paternity, Jack and Amily's entire relationship is built on a lie! All the memories, discussions and personal details that Amily shared are completely fabricated. It is appalling to me that she was willing to raise a child in that situation. The character is personally sympathetic in that she is so obviously damaged and emotionally needy, but her actions are/were just as dishonest as Emanda's. I definitely gasped at the fall though, it was horrifying and not how I expected them to get rid of her.

So far the mother storyline is only holding about 20% of my interest. Jennifer Jason Leigh does nothing for me.

[gingercharm21]

Never mind

Edited by gingercharm21, Oct 21, 2012 @ 10:06 PM.

[scarygreengiant]

Amanda as cold ass bitch was worse than ever. Telling the doctor to save the baby at the expense of Amily just seemed so ugly. Why would she care about this baby? Wouldn't she rather have her own baby with Jack?

Obviously you missed the ambulance scene where Amily begged Emanda to SAVE the baby "no matter what happens". For once Emanda is actually looking out for Amily.

[exzim]

It seems pretty obvious to me that Padma's storyline was always going to lead to her discovering David Clarke's role in helping Nolan start Nolcorp. If the company is being audited, they will want to know if a KNOWN TERRORIST was a major donor.

I think its going to be part of the story that Padma had family on the plane. Whether she learns the truth or sets out to bring Nolcorp down for revenge is where the story will go.

[Midru]

(My apologies if this has already been established and I missed it)

I have this read on the Mom thing from past episodes. Like maybe she was starting to lose it mentally and lost her rights as a mom. Then we saw that earlier flashback where it looked like mom was kidnapping her. Maybe she was trying to take her baby back from dad and the courts taking Amanda away from her. And remember the end of tonights scene? I thought she was trying to hide Amanda, not kill her.

Have to admit that EVERYTHING between the Mom and Aidan went over my head. I was still trying to figure out how they knew each other when the scene ended!

[SueR]

My apologies as well for something I must have missed. What happened to Nolan's house??

[scarygreengiant]

I thought she was trying to hide Amanda, not kill her.

That is an interesting interpretation. I would actually prefer that scenario over the mother trying to kill her. I really hate the way that this show portrays mental illnesses and I feel guilty for liking this show so much.

[joanne3482]

My apologies as well for something I must have missed. What happened to Nolan's house??

He sold it because it had "too many bad memories."

[lacey81]

I thought this was a really good episode despite how freaking obvious the fall was. That was telegraphed from miles away.

Still, there was a lot going on, and I was never bored. I thought that when they showed Padma looking at that check, it moved that story forward, that there was a point to all of it. Just like the home owner being in on the home theft with the kid.

Was Emily's dress really appropriate for a baby shower? Seemed a little odd.

[name234]

Padma seemed really interested in that framed check/receipt/whatever the hell it was from David Clark. I'm really not digging her story with Nolan and I'm terrified he's going to get hurt once again. And I just can't buy the fact that his company is suddenly falling apart at the seams.

Will Padma keep the secret? Will Amanda/Emily's stake in the company become known? It brings up all sorts of drama for our characters while tying the David Clarke exoneration storyline back in with everything else that has been going on this season.

I was wondering what she was staring at.

That check from David Clark is what is going to make it completely vital that Emanda clear her father's name, Nolan and Emanda could lose everything when the IRS follows the money trail and discovers Emily Thorne owns David Clarke's part of the company - and if Jack discovers she's really Amanda Clarke after everything he went through with Amily - I don't see him forgiving her. .

Padma has a legal/professional obligation to disclose this to the IRS. Either Emanda and Nolan bring her inside (where she could use her accounting skills to beat up the Graysons) or we may go through a season where Emanda and Nolan are poor as church mice. No money, no revenge.

I am fine with Padma becoming the third revenger. I did actually like Emanda not expecting Nolan to take up her "Vengeance first last and always lifestyle" Her look to Nolan regarding Padma to me said,, "what are you blind or oblivious?"

Edited by name234, Oct 21, 2012 @ 10:29 PM.

[Bella]

Thanks to Emanda's stupidity in wanting Amily to confront Vic with the signatures on the check and psych ward sign-in sheet, Vic successfully snatched them from Amily's hands, Amily falls over the balcony, and Vic destroyed the incriminating evidence! And all of this accomplished what exactly, Emanda? NOT A DAMN THING!!! [snip]

Amily doesn't deserve this shit. I hope she recovers and takes the baby somewhere safe and lives a happy life. Emanda is such a fucking ungrateful bitch.

All the damn evidence that Emanda has amassed all this time and she hasn't done anything to bring down the Graysons! This shit could have been over and done with eons ago. Now, because of her stupidity (yet again), more crucial evidence has been destroyed. FUCKING IDIOT!!!!

Edited by TWoP Mars, Oct 22, 2012 @ 11:07 PM.

[dreamer55]

Can someone refresh my memory - did we ever see what happened to the WHM's body? Where did Emanda take him after she knocked out Aiden? I wonder if there's any chance of WHM popping back up like LOL JK I'M NOT DEAD!

[Writing Wrongs]

Jennifer Jason Leigh does nothing for me.

I've always thought she was a terrible actress.

I know they feel the need to add new characters to keep it fresh, but I hate Padma and Aidan. They had a nice group of characters going and it feels like they are moving outside of the original premise of the show. This whole Initiative thing seems like something from Alias. I really don't get what's going on.