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[Jyn]

Hi. I'm a fan of Brandon Hantz, and I'm also bringing my Bible so I can thump it.

Yeah. . . . Don't see her lasting very long. Even with her athleticism.

[Yogurt Baron]

Don't see her lasting very long. Even with her athleticism.

You know, I've gone through two tribes of people so far, and I've come across exactly two people (RC and Malcolm) who don't seem like slam-dunk pre-merge boots, so with this crowd, Roxy could be strong enough to make, say, the jury. On the other hand, someone who comes on Survivor to reject "personal, selfish preferences"? Luck with that.

Edited by Yogurt Baron, Aug 20, 2012 @ 5:11 PM.

[legaleagle44]

and I'm also bringing my Bible so I can thump it.

She and Lisa Welchel should get along very nicely, then.

[OwlsGo]

You can be a Jesus freak as long as you're funny like Stacey from South Pacific. She's a bit lacking in the personality department.

[NilesSobek]

I shared her look when Russell didn't let her speak before the challenge. Though she should've tried harder to force her point on him -- that Angie, who wasn't good at puzzles, should probably be kept off them.

Don't get why she went along with keeping Russell when she clearly wanted to keep Zane.

[ReiMehari]

Just found out she's a bible-thumper. I honestly couldn't tell from the first episode.

[toastyred]

She's 28! I could not believe that! I am intrigued by her and remembered her name which are good signs. I hope we don't get big praying montages ala Matt on RI and everyone on South Pacific.

Edited by toastyred, Sep 20, 2012 @ 9:19 AM.

[Oholibamah]

She is absolutely stunning, and if the first episode is any indication, I like her demeanor.

So long as she doesn't start thumpin' that bible, she is one of my favorites - athletic and confident - but she's on a slippery slope with her preshow profile.

[DileChordata]

Looks like she did start thumpin' that Bible. And it was disappointing.

But once she did, she was my choice to go, even over Angie. Annoying and useless, both in the challenge and around camp. Bye-bye, Roxy, and good riddance.

Edited by DileChordata, Sep 27, 2012 @ 3:12 AM.

[FrogsRule]

I have a hard time believing she's an Army chaplain, as I read elsewhere. She doesn't seem nearly strong enough. I can't see how she would have passed the Army's psych eval.

[JudyObscure]

I wouldn't call praying alone, "Bible thumping." She wasn't pestering other people about Jesus or trying to get others to pray with her (see Coach.) I hate it when Survivors try to make other tribe members join in their religious activities, but I also hate to see someone criticized because of their personal beliefs. In either direction, it smacks of lack of religious freedom to me.

Religion aside, I thought Roxy totally deserved to go. At least, in the past, the lazy around camp youngin's tended to give it all at challenges. She did not toil, neither did she win.

[SilentMinority]

So she didn't do anything around camp, saving her energy for the challenge -- and then she excused herself from the harder part of the challenge because she didn't drink enough water? What excuse is there for spending all your time preparing for challenges (instead of productive work) and then failing to hydrate for said challenge?

I've always disliked the lazy contestants (just despised S4 when BRob's lazy contingent won out over Hunter's working contingent), so I was happy to see her do-nothing self get handed the pink slip.

[Ohdog]

Vecepia 2.0 - buh-bye.

[ratgirlagogo]

I have a hard time believing she's an Army chaplain, as I read elsewhere. She doesn't seem nearly strong enough.

I was thinking the same thing. She said she was having a hard time feeling supported by her faith without her friends, family and church. This doesn't make her a bad Christian of course, but it does mean she's nowhere near ready to be a minister.

[ReiMehari]

When she was voted out, I let out an "amen".

Annoying, hypocritical, ridiculous, and judgmental.... what's not to love?

[superpole2000]

I hate it when a contestant appears on this show and complains that they do not have their friends, family, etc. to support them. That's like going to a final exam and complaining that you don't have your textboook and notes with you.

I really disliked Roxy's references to Angie's boobs during Roxy's last tribal council. It exposed how much she was judging people based on appearances, which seems contradictory to the moral/religious beliefs she is supposed to be following.

[Raguel]

Easiest boot EVER. And you're an attractive young woman, Roxy. It's OK to want and to have a boyfriend.

[Timewalker]

Ding-dong, the bitch is dead... (figuratively, of course).

So cuddling to keep warm is dangerous, suspicious, etc.? Sheesh. Glad she's gone - who needs that toxic, judgmental crap?

[NYC2007]

I thought she was over the top with her concern about Malcom and Angie's late night cuddling. There are five of you. Do you not think that some pairing up/friendships are going to develop.

I liked her in the first episode but felt she worked hard in the second episode to take the target off of Rusell and put it on herself.

[Make It So]

At first, I wondered if the editing just wasn't being kind to Roxy by mostly showing her when she was standing around doing nothing. But her own words at TC about "working" kind of sealed the fact that she just didn't want to work as much. She was correct about the danger of Angie and Malcolm's cuddling/pairing up. What may have messed her up is that the way she went on about it could unfortunately be perceived by the other tribe members as stemming from jealousy or judgmentalism. That perception, coupled with her being a weaker player, probably worked against her.

[JudyObscure]

I really disliked Roxy's references to Angie's boobs during Roxy's last tribal council. It exposed how much she was judging people based on appearances, which seems contradictory to the moral/religious beliefs she is supposed to be following.

I think there's a difference between judging by appearances in the case of the person's natural looks as in, too tall, too ugly, or whatever, but if we're talking about, say, a girl who purposely wears a low cut top to distract the boys, that's not judging her for her looks, it's criticizing her choices and methods. I'm not saying those methods aren't valid just that it's not judging her by her appearance to point out what she's doing.

Also, when a person says he/she is a Christian they aren't claiming to be any more saintly than anyone else -- they are saying they believe in Christ as their savior. Period. I really don't think it's fair to constantly hold them to a higher standard, they may actually have become Christian because they know they have lots of issues that need improvement.

She was correct about the danger of Angie and Malcolm's cuddling/pairing up. What may have messed her up is that the way she went on about it could unfortunately be perceived by the other tribe members as stemming from jealousy or judgmentalism.

I agree and I think it's a huge double standard that a guy like Rob can point out the danger of a showmance but if a woman points out the same thing she's called jealous or judgmental. Roxy went on way too long about Angie but it wasn't any worse than the many times men have desperately tried to put down the competition when they know it's a him or me situation.

[DileChordata]

Vecepia 2.0 - buh-bye.

I don't think she was even close to being compared to her. Vecepia was hugely religious, as well, and she was lazy around camp, but she at least gave her best in challenges (even winning the F6 and F4 Immunity Challenges and coming very close to winning the F8 and F7 ones) and had an actual social game. Roxy was lazy around camp, had a piss-poor social game, and was a good-for-nothing in challenges. Goodbye to her.

Edited by DileChordata, Sep 27, 2012 @ 4:48 PM.

[jersey guy 87]

The problem with Roxy's game was she aligned with Russell, and clearly aligned with him. Sure, she wasn't snuggling with him at night but it was clear she viewed Russell as her alliance mate. From Roxy's perspective there were two dual alliances - Roxy/Russell and Angie/Malcolm. That left Denise as the swing vote, and to win the swing vote you have to make it worthwhile to the swing voter. Roxy didn't do anything (that we saw) to convince Denise that voting against Angie was in her best interest. Both Angie and Roxy were pretty weak in the challenge, so there's no advantage there. Roxy, though, was lazy around camp (by her own admission) while nobody accused Angie of not pitching in around camp. So, advantage Angie. Throw in the fact that Denise had aligned with Malcolm (unknown to Roxy) and it was an easy decision to vote out Roxy over Angie.

[SilentMinority]

I think there's a difference between judging by appearances in the case of the person's natural looks as in, too tall, too ugly, or whatever, but if we're talking about, say, a girl who purposely wears a low cut top to distract the boys, that's not judging her for her looks, it's criticizing her choices and methods. I'm not saying those methods aren't valid just that it's not judging her by her appearance to point out what she's doing.

I don't see the relevance of "low cut top" in Survivor, where everyone is going to be wearing bikinis/shorts/tattered clothes/etc. in short order. This isn't a classroom or a business meeting. And we know that often Survivors end up dumped on the island in clothes they didn't expect to be wearing at that moment. I don't see the relevance.

As for Roxy not judging Angie by her appearance, I would counter that with her quote about disliking her from "Day One." She made a snap judgment of Angie that, long before she could possibly have gotten to know her, could only be based on her appearance. And the idea that you can know all you need to know about a woman by her choice to enhance her breasts is still a snap judgment largely based on appearance.

I also noticed that during her diatribe against the coupling concept, her criticism seemed almost entirely directed at Angie rather than Malcolm. It takes 2 to tango. Roxy seemed as if she was trapped in the "whore/Jezebel" view of Angie where Malcolm was nothing more than a hapless victim of Angie's evil wiles. The epi title quote suggests as much.

[JudyObscure]

SilentMinority:

My example of judging by a low cut top was not meant to be Survivor specific but just an example of how "judging by appearances," can vary from something a person can't control like the size of their ears or feet and something they can control like the clothes they wear or whether or not they color their hair green.

If the example has to be relevant to Survivor I'll say this: Denise mentioned Zane's Frankenstein tattoo. I don't think that means she was judging him by his appearance. I think she was looking at it as clues to his taste and personality.

As for Roxy saying she had disliked Angie from "Day One." An entire day spent with someone can reveal all sorts of qualities besides appearance. It's enough time to find out if some one is rude, lazy, bossy, pedantic, vulgar, vain and a hundred other things.

[MarkHB]

I also noticed that during her diatribe against the coupling concept, her criticism seemed almost entirely directed at Angie rather than Malcolm. It takes 2 to tango. Roxy seemed as if she was trapped in the "whore/Jezebel" view of Angie where Malcolm was nothing more than a hapless victim of Angie's evil wiles. The epi title quote suggests as much.

I took that as her realization that, of the two, Malcolm was the more useful in challenges/around camp and therefore the one to keep. Angie, OTOH, may have worked around camp but she has shown herself to be neither a clever puzzle-solver nor someone with particular stamina for challenges involving Feats of Strength. It may be possible that she's a fast runner or swimmer but how long has it been since either of those skills were fundamental to challenge success? (I think of Ozzy last season; with no swimming challenges he was far too mortal.)

[Sixdogs]

Annoying, hypocritical, ridiculous, and judgmental.... what's not to love?

Exactly - how did someone that young get that ugly inside? And she is supposed to be an army chaplain? Don't believe that for a minute!

But the biggest irritation for me was the faces she makes, the pursed lips, the eye rolling and the head shaking. Like a 75 year old church lady!

[MarkHB]

Like a 75 year old church lady!

Could it be... boobies????? [/DanaCarvey]

[JabuXevioso]

She can get some sweet vindication knowing that Angie basically proved her right last night.

[LanceM]

How so? Sure, Angie was weak in challenges but Roxy was even worse. Not to mention the fact that Angie was liked by her other tribemates and actually did stuff around camp.