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10-4: "Women on the Go" 2012.08.09


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Posted Aug 9, 2012 @ 10:03 PM

From Zap2it:

Tensions run high while the designers are under pressure; the designers must create an outfit that transitions from day to night.


This was not the team challenge, but an individual one.

Poor Buffy. It certainly was her time, except for Raoul, and I think they just didn't have the heart to toss him twice in a row.

Also Ven? You're just OK.
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Posted Aug 9, 2012 @ 10:04 PM

How did the triple-boob dress win??? And not one of the judges / talking heads noticed the third boob???

Gah!
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Posted Aug 9, 2012 @ 10:13 PM

TrafficChick, thank you! Even though I did like the dress, that sagginess was just horrible and really bothered me. That being said, I liked most of the fashions this week and even saw potential in the bottom three. They were just executed badly. I did laugh when Cors said that the pink thing reminded him of a beauty salon smock, because that's exactly what it reminded me of. The guest judge did a nice job - why did they need Hayden on also? We don't need an actress every week.
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Posted Aug 9, 2012 @ 10:21 PM

I liked Sonjie's dress and I didn't see three boobs, but it did sag depending on whether the model put her weight on a certain hip. I thought it fit the challenge better than any of the other top picks. I thought Christopher's look was very good, but his dress typified what Sonjie was talking about in terms of not making the draping look too evening, which his was. It was far too long. Dmitry's was wonderful but brought no attention to his amazing skills.

Buffi had no business being on the show. She can't really sew and has terrible taste issues. I knew Fabio wasn't really in danger. And Raoul had horrific styling issues. When he grabbed the belt, I yelled "Noooooooo!"

First Andrea. Then Kooan. I was really really concerned that this quitting thing was going to start to cluster with designer after designer deciding to pull the trigger and quit. Maybe this will be a hint to the producers that they shouldn't pick designers who the judges would fundamentally never vote for and maybe increase the time for challenges. Must every challenge be sew on day one and runway on day two?

Ven is a legend is own mind.

Edited to add an always necessary swipe at Ven's pomposity.

Edited by hunterhunted, Aug 9, 2012 @ 10:32 PM.

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Posted Aug 9, 2012 @ 10:22 PM

How did the triple-boob dress win???


Must have been a Total Recall reboot tie-in that didn't work out.

And Elena does a fashion mouth X-Ray apron at the dentist and gets a bye? OK.
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Posted Aug 9, 2012 @ 10:25 PM

The guest judge did a nice job - why did they need Hayden on also? We don't need an actress every week.


Because of the last bit, where she asked permission to wear it. Another unstated 'twist' to the challenge, Tim told them they were designing for their own aesthetic, but they were really designing for Hayden. Which makes Sonjie's win makes sense, she will probably wear it for some event related to "Nashville." Christopher's dress was too upscale for promoting a country music aesthetic, and the cut of Dmitry's dress would make her shoulders look wider, and--as she's quite short--make her look stumpy as well.

Edited by Rozen, Aug 9, 2012 @ 10:26 PM.

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Posted Aug 9, 2012 @ 10:29 PM

Because of the last bit, where she asked permission to wear it. Another unstated 'twist' to the challenge, Tim told them they were designing for their own aesthetic, but they were really designing for Hayden. Which makes Sonjie's win makes sense, she will probably wear it for some event related to "Nashville."


That's odd, because it's a grey, knit jersey dress meant to transition from work wear to evening wear, and didn't look very red-carpet friendly at all. I was surprised when she asked it, but I guess you're right, they had it planned without letting the audience in on it.
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Posted Aug 9, 2012 @ 10:31 PM

Andrea really did herself in as far as having any credibility in the fashion world. Why would you sneak out in the middle of the night? Disgraceful.And Heidi certainly had her say about it.<br>At least Koonan(sp?) left in the right way. I could kind of see how he didn't fit in there and sympathized with him. I'll really miss Buffy, but that creation was horrible. Who would wear that? And Raoul is definitely not long for this show.<br><br>
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Posted Aug 9, 2012 @ 10:34 PM

The designers must take some offense at being judged by Heidi Klum, whose taste is the most questionable of all, as evidenced tonight by the typically messy hair and an ill-fitting dress that looked like it was from The Flintstones collection at Forever 21. It's a show about clothing--how ironic that no one has shown her how to dress with some class and dignity. Even a gorgeous model has to stop impersonating a teenager as she nears 40. I think Kors and Garcia must giggle about Heidi behind her back every week.
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Posted Aug 9, 2012 @ 10:45 PM

Fabio was a Hindu or Sikh this week, wonder what he will appear as next time? I can't believe the judges were saying he looked so fashionable because he was wearing ropes around his neck-really? I thought Christopher should have won, but of course the designers did not know they were designing for a particular actress.

I can't imagine any type of red carpet where this dress would be appropriate, although I did like the dress. Also, really liked Ven's dress and I think he has a beautiful point of view. Also liked it that his dress wasn't black or grey. Buffi's was terrible and she deserved to go-that pink smock thing was just ugly. Liked the middle of the pack dresses and though Dimitri's was nice although his model has a little stomach pooch which really showed up in the dress. Not quite sure why this was the Michael Kors challenge.
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Posted Aug 9, 2012 @ 10:49 PM

So, was Andrea a producer "plant"? Enquiring minds (mine at least!) would like to know! I have to admit that I wasn't surprised by either departure, though; Kooan has seemed unhappy for the past couple of weeks. His aesthetic is just so far out there - there's probably a market (somewhere ...) for it, but definitely not mainstream. Same for Buffi, although she's not as far out there as Kooan, imho. I really did LOL when Kors said Buffi's creation looked like a beauty salon smock, because it did! The others danced around it, too - they just didn't want to come right out and say it, but Kors did, ya gotta give him props for speaking the truth. At least in this case.

Sonjia is probably my favorite designer, for the time being. I would like Ven more, but my gosh his head is so swollen it's probably going to explode soon. :( I actually thought that Dmitry's outfit was going to win tonight, but at least we know he's got the skills and thensome (unlike Buffi, unfortunately). I still like Christopher (who reminds me of Michael) and Gunnar too.

Hopefully they've gotten all the kinks and stuff out now, and things will go smoothly, or at least as smoothly as the drama queens of fashion will allow!
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Posted Aug 9, 2012 @ 10:56 PM

That's odd, because it's a grey, knit jersey dress meant to transition from work wear to evening wear, and didn't look very red-carpet friendly at all.


I figured that she'll probably be wearing the dress when she does the talkshow circuit: Live with Kelly!, The View, Ellen and such. Also Hayden is like 4ft 11 and Christopher's dress would have really looked evening on her. Hayden really does have linebacker shoulders on a garden gnome frame; Dmitry's dress would have emphasized that.

I guess I've never noticed it before, but Fabio really does have a beautiful face. Not handsome, but beautiful. Even when he was upset about Kooan.
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Posted Aug 9, 2012 @ 10:57 PM

Just because these folks can't perform under the survivor like requirements and time frames of the challenges does not mean that they can't be great designers. If they want to leave, then leave. But I do think that it's a shame that they can't plan to backfill any missing folks with a designer who just missed the cut. Bringing the old folks back with the "Well we already voted them off ONCE" pall over them doesn't seem jake.
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Posted Aug 9, 2012 @ 11:04 PM

I thought they were supposed to design for the Kors woman, with their own aesthetic in mind. So why does the dress have to be "sexy" for HEIDI? (Does everything have to be sexy for Heidi to like it? Argh!) And in the end, they were really designing for Hayden!

Happy with Sonjia's win. Loved her dress (did not notice a 3rd boob thing.) Chris's was good too but I thought the long drapey thing in front was too long for the daytime part of the daytime-to-nighttime look. And it was almost overstyled with the draping in front, IMO.

I want to like and root for my fellow Minnesotan, Raoul, but he does seem to have an inflated opinion of his wonderfulness.
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Posted Aug 9, 2012 @ 11:04 PM

This is not the first episode where the judges made reference to elements of the assignment that the audience never heard. But this time more than one judge read the challenge from a card.

I mean, did we hear that glamor was part of the challenge? If we did, I missed it. I was, in fact, puzzled what the challenge actually was and what it had to do with the Michael Kors flagship store. Other than a bit of advertising for MK, that is. They've done day-into-evening before. But they acted as though "woman on the go" was something new. I'm puzzled.
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Posted Aug 9, 2012 @ 11:07 PM

Elena realizes that Romulans are fictional beings and not real people, right? She's really stuck on the big shouldered look.

I'm pretty shocked that Kooan was the second one to leave. I knew there was something up with him since he looked way different in one of his talking heads last week, but I thought it meant he was going to be in the competition for awhile. Oh well. At least he didn't sneak out in the middle of the night.

ETA:

Tim told them they were designing for their own aesthetic, but they were really designing for Hayden. Which makes Sonjie's win makes sense, she will probably wear it for some event related to "Nashville." Christopher's dress was too upscale for promoting a country music aesthetic, and the cut of Dmitry's dress would make her shoulders look wider, and--as she's quite short--make her look stumpy as well.

Those big ol' clodhoppers she had on didn't do her any favors. Small women in particular look silly wearing those giant shoes.

Edited by Anacharsis, Aug 9, 2012 @ 11:09 PM.

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Posted Aug 9, 2012 @ 11:09 PM

I won't miss Andrea, but I will miss Kooan. I'm too old to wear his stuff, but 30 years ago, I would have. PR really wasn't the right place for someone like him--I can't see him doing evening wear, for example, with any success--because his point-of-view is fairly narrow. He was clearly unhappy, and I hated to see him that way. And at least he left with class and didn't flit off in the middle of the night.

I can't imagine any type of red carpet where this dress would be appropriate, although I did like the dress.


It wouldn't work for a formal red carpet event like the Emmys, but it would at some sort of lunch event, or something a little more casual, where they have a press area. I don't remember Tim or Kors saying the outfit had to be "red carpet" though--just something that would work for a busy woman and go from day to evening easily. And in that sense, I didn't think Sonjia's dress worked exactly. It would be fine for dinner out or a cocktail party or something, but as daywear, it was off the mark IMO--a bit too "dressy".

Christopher is driving me insane, but I thought he should have won the challenge this time. He needs to stop sticking his nose into other people's work, though. As awful as that thing Buffi made was, she was right to tell him to butt out. It's not his problem.

Fabio has no actual point of view, but I have to admit I do like seeing how he's going to dress himself every week, so I'm glad he survived again. Raul should probably not unpack.

When the guest judge started compimenting Dmitri's sewing skills and said she'd hire him for her sample room, that was a death knell for him. I think his stuff is beautiful and that he hasn't gotten the credit he should have so far, but when they're complimenting your construction skills and not your vision, that's not a good thing.

Kill me now, but I liked Gunnar's skirt. The top was dreadful, but I liked the skirt a lot. I also don't understand how Alicia managed to avoid the bottom three again, since those long shorts and button down shirt in no way qualify as something that could be worn to a dressy evening event.

Nathan was barely on screen again. Boo. I really would like to see and hear more from him than we're getting. And all Ven seems to do is complain about how other people complain too much. He should shut it.
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Posted Aug 9, 2012 @ 11:16 PM

I don't remember Tim or Kors saying the outfit had to be "red carpet" though--just something that would work for a busy woman


They didn't say it in the description of the challenge but Hayden P said she would be wearing this dress at a red carpet event. I agree it would look nice at a lunch or something like that but I don't consider that a red carpet event.
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Posted Aug 9, 2012 @ 11:19 PM

I guess I've never noticed it before, but Fabio really does have a beautiful face. Not handsome, but beautiful.

Yes, he really does. Ven has pretty eyes, too, but his personality is becoming more and more unpleasant.

And all Ven seems to do is complain about how other people complain too much.

Funny because it's true!
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Posted Aug 10, 2012 @ 12:03 AM

My picks
#1: Sonjia-LUVed that grey jersey dress. Perfect.
#2: Dimitri Trent Reznor-his work is elegant & understated.
He's a Dark Horse.
#3: Costello Jr- I have to deduct points for the big wad of fabric that hung below the hem. And the purple shoes.

Buffi lost her damn mind trotting out that pink schmatta WTF?
She should have just taken Raoul with her.

So long, farewell, auf weiderschein, goodbye to Kooan Frokemon who had to leave because PR gave him the sads. Awww.
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Posted Aug 10, 2012 @ 12:25 AM

Frokemon obviously came back at some later point to do a Talking Head, but Andrea apparently didn't. I wonder if she'll be a reunion no-show as well.

I actually loved Ven silently working at his dress form while everyone else was weeping over the loss of their fellow designers.
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Posted Aug 10, 2012 @ 12:31 AM

Poor Christopher. First Andrea left without thinking about how it would impact him (she totally stole his potential drama from him). Then Buffi didn't take his advice the way he wanted her to (also stealing a potentially dramatic moment in the process). And then he lost. I liked his outfit in comparison to the rest, but I really need him to leave soon. Bugs the crap out of me.

I liked the winning look and noticed the third boob effect in the front towards the end of judging. I still thought it was the strongest piece, that and Dmitri's.

I really enjoyed the guest judge. Not the cheerleader from Heroes, the other one.
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Posted Aug 10, 2012 @ 12:35 AM

Gunnar is poisonous. He is so-so talent-wise, so not sure where he gets that attitude from. Buffy had to go, but Raoul never needed to return. I think Christopher's overall look was the most striking on the runway, but not for wear from dawn til dusk, but loved the jacket. The winning dress was fine...so was the other gray one. Heidi's dress was as bad as Buffy's-how could she say Buffy's looked cheap with a straight face?
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Posted Aug 10, 2012 @ 12:36 AM

I would have given the win to Christopher. His dress actually was one of the few times it actually did have that "who is that?" visual response. Well in a good way. Buffy's was horrible but I would have sent Raul home for that thing. The other contender for the auf would have been Gunner. I can't believe making a dress and then a completely different skirt and pulling it up over the dress is high fashion. I thought it was hideous.

I did like Sonjia's a lot. But, I know this might sound odd, it was too Jack of all Trades. In that it didn't quite make the cut for the transformative aspect. It was a "in a pinch" dress to me. I thought Christopher's just had a greater element of elegance and standing out in a great way.

I do think all of the top three were good and I even thought Fabio's dress wasn't auf worthy.

Overall this challenge hammered home how solid but not stellar the cast is this season. They all seem more suited to design for QVC. And I don't mean that as a bad thing. It just seems that they are designing clothes for a broader audience and at a more affordable level. Considering the bucks in that market, I think some like the top three tonight should keep that in mind. All three of the top dresses had a nice attainable style that still was a level that women would aspire to own and wear them as well. Something I think gets lost in the whole commercial meme the judges wallow in (to different levels of approval or not depending on the week).

And I think Buffy can pat herself on the back all she wants for being true to herself. In the end I strongly suspect that it was the fact that she designed a smock and put it over a horrifically contructed dress that sent her home. Had it been well made I think Raul might have gotten a second heave.

I want to like Christopher because I did like this and his first dress that won. But he is so immature and needy. It's not a crime, I think most designers at his age probably have the need for affirmation if they haven't gotten it financially. Son needs to put his head down and stop being wounded and just design.

I hate when they bring someone back to fill a slot like they did tonight. I wish they would actually milk the drama and tell them that whoever is in the bottom this week has a chance to come back. They shoudl think ahead to vacancies and build in a challenge that if they don't have any leave, they just duke it out. If they do have a sudden leave taking, at the point that the 'auf'd' equal the remaining designers they pair an auf'd with a contender and whichever team wins, the 'auf'd' gets to stay. Imagine the machinations.
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Posted Aug 10, 2012 @ 12:40 AM

I really think Raoul should have been shoved into the revolving door again for those frankenpants. He made his model's ass look crooked, and that's the nicest thing I can say about that outfit. You're on notice, Squiggy.

Aw, Buffi. I will miss Buffi terribly, even though every single garment she produced looked like clown vomit. Loved her hiding behind the couch, and Tim seemed to have a hard time letting her go, too.

Wonder if they rounded up Andrea and made her go to the sequester house. She was last seen clutching a kitty and muttering, "They'll never take me alive!"

Ven = Killjoy the Robot. If he doesn't consider Raoul his competition (and he's right), why's he gotta be such a douchebag sourpuss about Squiggy's return? Ven is extremely skilled, but his designs don't do a thing for me.

Dmitry is growing on me. I found him as dour as Ven at first, but he seems a lot more human now, especially the last two weeks. I really like his work, but don't find it gasp inducing.

Alicia makes the kind of clothes that I would actually wear if I were younger, but I don't think her tomboy style is going to cut it with the judges for the duration. I hope I'm wrong!

Of those who will realistically make it to the finals, I'm all for Sonjia taking the season 10 crown. She seems sweet but focused on her work, and she consistently sends great looks down the runway. And - bonus points! - she's not Ven.
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Posted Aug 10, 2012 @ 1:19 AM

Melissa's model tonight looked like a character straight from Lord of the Rings..
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Posted Aug 10, 2012 @ 1:31 AM

Christopher should never stray more than five feet from a fainting couch, he's so easily overwhelmed by it all. I agree the drapey-ness of the dress was too much for daytime.

I would have gone for Dimitry over Sonjia, but I'm glad he finally got some recognition. And that Ven was merely safe for once. I wonder how much we'll hear about that next Thursday.
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Posted Aug 10, 2012 @ 1:47 AM

Ven = Killjoy the Robot. If he doesn't consider Raoul his competition (and he's right), why's he gotta be such a douchebag sourpuss about Squiggy's return? Ven is extremely skilled, but his designs don't do a thing for me.

So much this. It took me a while to figure out why I can't seem to like his work. He's unpleasant as a human, but I've responded to designs from designers I didn't like as contestants in the past. And I'm generally a sucker for clean tailoring and structure. It finnaly hit me last week, his work is utterly charmless. Both he and his work lack any sort of charm. When Kenley contributes the warmth in a collaboration, you are a dour bitch.

This week, his design was dreadful. It was simultaneously overworked and bland. Difficult to achieve.

Dmitry is growing on me.

I agree with you here as well. I didn't think much of him other than to notice the Snape/Trent Rezor aesthetic, but he's turned in some very pretty designs. Tonight's was really nice, great detail and contruction. In fact I really liked all three top designs tonight and would have felt (leaving out the "glamour" rather than simply evening late noted element) that any of them was justified a win.

Of course, this challenge was going to be among my favs since I wear a lot of Michael Kors (or at least as much as my budget permits).

Edited by RachelKM, Aug 10, 2012 @ 2:00 AM.

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Posted Aug 10, 2012 @ 1:48 AM

There are a lot of red carpet events that are more business driven. The Television Upfronts where the networks use celebrities/actors from their new shows to sell advertisers on said shows would be an example of where this dress would work. It is a B-to-B red carpet event, not B-to-C. Or a charity event where a "less is more" approach would be more suitable.

Edited by yogajen, Aug 10, 2012 @ 1:48 AM.

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Posted Aug 10, 2012 @ 1:54 AM

Thought it was funny at the end when Tim (paraphrasing) said: I told you it would come down to style and I was right.

Not said..sorry Buffy but you had no style.
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