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[I'm Wrong]

Wow, Shane, you're really a moron, aren't you? I'm no strategic mastermind, but I always thought that an HOH really shouldn't veto his/her own noms unless something very drastic happens between the nominations and the veto ceremony. I mean, why piss off three people (and their alliances) instead of just the original two?

And I'm pretty sure that "Ian gave me a wishy-washy answer" doesn't exactly qualify as a drastic nomination-changing revelation. Also, "I don't see any foreseeable circumstance in which that would happen" does not equate to "Players like Ian say he's gonna put me up next week", Shane. Jeez.

That said, I thought it was idiotic that Frank wasn't originally nominated. And it's always smart to doubt Boogie's trustworthiness, based on his history. But the way Shane/Britney went about the whole process of finally getting Frank on the block, combined with the flimsy reasoning they gave, has resulted in a horribly mismanaged HOH.

Still, it's not like he wouldn't have been a target next week regardless of what he did this week. But whatever hole he was in, he made just a bit deeper. And it’s not like he even gained Joe’s loyalty either, because he took off Ashley. What a himbo.

Finally, speaking of Joe, please allow me to say: SHUT THE FUCK UP, JOE ARVIN! You and your shouting Diary Room idiocy are likely a key reason why CBS has lost millions of viewers this season.

Edited by I'm Wrong, Aug 1, 2012 @ 8:15 PM.

[Sailing]

Janelle is a good coach, and advises her players well. I truly believe her players would be dead in the water without her advice to stay calm, put on a happy face, etc. (well, except for Joe, because he can't follow advice to save his life). I did cringe a little bit as Janelle offered Britney and Shane her wedding ring and Chanel earrings. What are you thinking, Janelle?! And P.S., Janelle - you can also stand to drop the overly breathy voice in the DR, thanks.

Joe's one saving grace this episode? His one DR session where he dropped the bravado and talked about his wife and kids. Other than that - go home, Joe.

Danielle is a bunny boiler in the making. The stars in her eyes after Shane's half-hearted kiss were so sad. He's just not that into you[r sex], sweetheart.

I liked Britney and her catchphrases the first go-round, but she has just been insufferable on this edition of BB. She's absolutely drunk on her own power. One would think Britney's HoH rather than Shane! She's lucky that Shane is so bland and easy-going, otherwise any other player with half a brain would have knocked her upside the head by now. Her impression of a splayed Joe out on the HoH sofa was comedy gold, though!

[StinkPill]

Shane, please burn that pink tank top, the rainbow suspenders make you look butch in comparison.
Houseguests, please quit swearing on your family's life, it's fucked up.
Boogie, grow the hell up, you're a 42 year old man with a child.
Houseguests, time to get Frank out NOW, if you don't, you're idiots.
Wil, put some damn clothes on.
Jenn, where the hell are you?

That Danielle and Shane kiss was about as realistic as Michael Jackson and Lisa Marie.
So do you think America will have voted for the coaches to come back in!? The suspense is killing me!
**rolls eyes**

[katesus7]

The funniest part of the whole episode was when Britney snatched Janelle's wedding ring up and immediately tried it on. Janelle knew her audience. That whole thing was hilarious.

The whole HOH nonsense is so played out at this point. Over the years I've learned what not to do with the HOH:

Go up to their room immediately
Not go up to their room quickly enough
Offer deals, because then you're a liar
Not offer enough deals, because then you can't be trusted
Suck up - because they'll laugh at you
Be honest - because they don't want any part of that

Janelle at least knew there was some script to follow, however ridiculous it was. Ian had no clue. And that made the difference, no matter how much Britney and Shane made fun of Janelle, and gloated about her losing one of her team.

I'm torn. On the one hand, I loathe Mike possibly more than any other Big Brother contestant ever (well, no, that will always be Rachel, but I've hated him longer). But Frank doesn't annoy me all that much, except for the excessive blinking and his hair and his alliance with Mike. And I can't even hold his hair against him, what with over half these people having atrocious hair. But I really, really need Mike to be taken down a peg, and those awful gloating segments to be done with. On the other hand, Joe's DR voice alone might just make my top 5 most hated houseguests. I'll look at this as a win/win situation. Either Mike is unhappy, or I get the use of my ears back.

Mike needs to stop it with the "We all know what happens if people go against me" nonsnese. Yes, dude, you won all-stars, even though every time you mention it, you need to give Will another $1,000. But you know what I also remember? You being HOH your first season the first week, nominating Nicole (who finished 2nd) against the nicest HG as your strategy, and proceded to get her booted and your alliance screwed because you were awful at the game.

[LonePirate]

I was howling when Ashley was in the DR explaining her "gentle push" approach to winning the Veto competition. If she intentionally this ditsy, she may become my favorite houseguest ever. If her behavior is not an act, then I hope she sticks around for a while as she is exceptionally entertaining.

I also loved Boogie's DR early in the show when he said the game was too easy because everything was going his way. I bet he regretted those words once Frank was named as the replacement nominee.

The Shane and Danielle showmance continues to amuse me for the complete opposite reason that Grodner finds it entertaining. Her glee during the spin the bottle game was fantastic, assuming you enjoy a deluded potential psycho stalker as much as I do.

[PreTense]

I thought this was a very solid episode for Janelle. She offered up clear-eyed advice to her players on how to handle being nominated. And, while offering to hand over her wedding ring was Shelly-esque, it did seem to prime the pump on getting Frank nominated. I loved the look on Boogie's smugly face once he realized that Frank was going up on the block.

[DrGirlfriend]

Are the burners in the BB house gas or electric? I'm hoping the former, so if Joe leans over a little too closely, the revolting bleached blonde fuse on his chin will catch aflame. If the rest of his body also goes up in a crisp, all the better.

[furryteeth]

It seemed like Shane had the most to gain by taking down Joe and putting up Ian--if Frank and Joe were to be trusted. (And it seemed like they were both genuine about not putting Shane up for a few weeks.) It would have been easy to argue as well: split up a potential couple/showmance (Ian vs. Ashley); put up Janelle's team vs. Boogie's team; etc.

Why did he leave up Joe against Frank, if Frank was the target? Ashley seems more popular than Joe, and Shane could have benefited from a possible deal with Joe. Either the show left out some of the reasoning here, or there was no real reasoning. I'm guessing the latter.

P.S. Does anyone else see visions of Foghorn Leghorn during Joe's LOUD DR sessions?

[jessied112]

Well, this is honestly a win/win for me. If Joe goes, then it won't be a disappointment because I won't have to go get my hearing checked. But if Frank goes, then I can gladly watch Mike crumble and start to panick. I have no doubt he'll have some sort of DR tomorrow stating that he'll 'get Frank to stay in the house and then his players will kill the HOH and everything will be back in his power' so I don't want that to happen. I mean, I don't watch the live feeds but I realized tonight that I don't mind Frank. But it's Mike that I want out.

But when the coaches come into the game tomorrow, I pray that anyone but Mike (and potentially his own team) wins HOH so they can get him out ASAP.

Joe, STOP YELLING IN THE DR! I actually winced for the first half of the episode because we got so many Joe DR's. And Shane really is killing these competitions. One HOH, three Vetos now? That's pretty impressive. Yes, Shane has made some dumb moves, but I think these nominations are for the best. I know that either way, one of them will be coming after Shane but hopefully with the coaches coming back into the game, Joe or Frank (whoever stays) will focus on teaming up with Shane for a couple of weeks to get rid of Mike and Janelle. Or at least just Mike.

Britney is making me angry. She keeps saying that 'they' won veto and 'they' had the power and 'they' needed to relax after playing veto, but Britney did absolute shit. She sat there eating cotton candy and popcorn while Shane won it. So I don't get why she thinks she deserves some peace and quiet and why she is getting annoyed. I'm getting annoyed with you.

It was pretty low and pathetic of Janelle to offer actual jewelery (although I LOL'd when Britney took it). I don't get the strategy, but whatever.

I thought Ian, in a way, said the right thing but Britney, of course, just wants to hear some bullshit answer. Ian was very honest and said that he just didn't know what was going to happen. Anything could happen and he doesn't want to make a promise which he will 100% not be able to keep. Smart move on his end, but not in a game of Big Brother, when the HOH wants some bullshit answer.

I've decided that I'll go with Joe being gone, just because when the coaches come back into the game, Frank can hopefully put his anger aside and help Shane take out Mike or Janelle. But would Frank actually go against Mike? Hopefully he can realize that it's better game for Mike to be eliminated first and then Janelle and then Dan.

[Macenlu]

"Not in the forseeable future" is a no in Big Brother. Only with these idiots can someone be penalized for having a good vocabulary and a little integrity.

My heart is breaking a little for Ian; I find him very endearing. I hate how Ashley is treating him, ugh. Boogie seems to be letting him down a bit on the coaching front. It's a little hard to watch.

Nonetheless I am totally rooting for Ian. Ian ftw!

[Spazzo47]

Did Brit just completely not understand what Ian said? I thought he was saying there are no plans to put up Shane in the near future. IOW, he's safe from them for now. What was Brit going on about?

And did I mis something? Why is Frank the biggest threat in the house? Because of Boogie? Because he won A HOH? I don't get it. I's still take Ian in memory/intelligence comps (even though he's lost 2... I'm wondering if he threw them in all honesty. He's a superfan so he knows the strategy that won it for Dan). I wouldn't expect Frank to do that well in an endurance. Basically, he's probably athletic, but that's not everything in this game.

However, I will be glad when Frank's gone. Mostly because of Boogie. I'm wondering how the coaches are going to align *if* (HA) the coaches go in. I could see Dan/Janelle/Brit teaming up with Shane and Danielle. I like to think that Ian will join them, but I think there's a good chance he'll stick with with Boogie. Joe will align with Boogie to go after Shane. Jenn will be a floater and stay under the radar. I'd expect Will to go with Boogie and Ashley will get loast going to someone. IN that case, I think the coaches alignment will have the numbers, but there's enough floaters to make a difference.

[hoosier]

Yawn. These people are boring. Boring-er than boring itself.

Ian, I love you.

[Holliday]

I loved the shot of Boogie "plotting/scheming."

Also, Shane, I'm no BB expert, but that was one bonehead move right there.

[TWoP Mars]

But the way Shane/Britney went about the whole process of finally getting Frank on the block, combined with the flimsy reasoning they gave, has resulted in a horribly mismanaged HOH.

Seriously. If they want to target Frank, at least take Joe down and get his loyalty. With this move, Shane ensured he's playing alone instead of with either of them. Does he really think he's good enough to make it to the end with no one but his girl? That didn't work out so well for James (season 6) or James (season 9). Eventually, even the POV kings go down if no one's with them.

[Scrunt11]

I can't complain about this at all. I honestly I don't even care about Shane, Frank or Joe. I'm just glad something finally happened this season and some game was actually played, bad move or not.

Edited by Scrunt11, Aug 2, 2012 @ 1:46 AM.

[Nashville]

Did Brit just completely not understand what Ian said? I thought he was saying there are no plans to put up Shane in the near future. IOW, he's safe from them for now. What was Brit going on about?

Brit was going on about finding a way to get Shane to put Frank up - something that up until that point, Shane was unwilling to do. Being in the dark about Shane and Frank's previous discussions, I'm sure Britney thought Shane was making a horrible mistake in giving Frank a pass - and if a little exaggeration on her part might help Shane rectify his "mistake", so much the better.

[BC1795]

I swear, every time I see a convo between Brit and Shane -- it's like Chatty Cathy talking to Jason Stackhouse.

I now watch the show with my finger on the mute button. Every time I hear Joe as a voice over I know I DR is gonna pop up and I hit mute. Can't stand the shouting and he never says anything interesting. And what's with the caterpillar tryng to crawl into or out of his mouth?

Ian FTW!!

[bumblehare74]

IMO, Ian looked pretty upset towards the end of the episode when Shane decided to use the POV. I wonder if something happened that wasn't shown on this episode? I wonder if someone yelled at Ian?

Britney seems to be one of those people that accepts all of the accolades when her team wins, but as soon as something goes wrong it is never her fault. She brings nothing to the table, why Shane would trust anything she has to say I haven't a clue. Shane should have talked to Ian personally and not told Britney about it. Shane needs to trust his own judgement and not just defer to Britney.

All of the newbies have to be at least considering the possibility that the coaches might be entering the game. The newbies need to verify, whenever possible, everything that is being told to them by their coaches.

Shane should have taken Janelle's ring and earrings. If he gets booted from the game he should take them with him, not that I believe for a minute that the jewelry is anything more than paste.

[Biosynth]

After the conversation between Ian and Brit I'm totally convinced that Brittany is a complete idiot. Really, she can't understand adult conversation to realize that Ian wasn't saying anything about going against Shane? Sheesh. She's so upset at him about game play. Did she really think that she can push him around because she perceives him as weak? Get a grip Woman.

I really dislike Shane. I think he's too wishy washy and I just don't see his appeal. I'm not a Frank fan either though I've no idea why. He's really not that offensive and really looks like he wants to play a good game. I'd rather see Shane go before Frank...to be frank. haha.

In the end, I'd love to see a Jenn Ian final. I like them the best.

Ashley didn't seem this utterly vacuous when she first started. I wonder if she's putting every one on.

[DebB]

I loathe Joe. He screams every word he says, and most of those words are stupid. I guess his mother never taught him how to use an indoor voice. I desperately want him to go home so he will stop shrieking.

Britney is an imbecile, and that's saying something in a house full of women who can't define any of the following: emancipate, emaciate, introvert, or invert. I feel 100% confident that Britney couldn't define "foreseeable" at gunpoint. I'm sure she had no idea what Ian was saying. She wanted a simple yes or no because that's all she understands.

Of course, Britney is a brain surgeon next to Shane. Does he seriously think he can play this game all by himself until the end? He had a chance to ally with either Frank or Joe and passed both those chances by. I don't see any benefit to what he has done. Frank may go home, but then Shane gets to play totally alone. He does seem to be a challenge monster, but what happens if he has a bad day? This possibility does not seem to have occurred to him.

[Dolphincorn]

In the end, I'd love to see a Jenn Ian final. I like them the best.

That's my nightmare scenario. At the moment, neither of them has done anything to make me believe that they're playing the game.

I don't believe that Britney is a good player, but at least she provides a lot of good television. She's fun to watch and she gives the best diary room sessions. She can stay all season long as far as I'm concerned.

On the other hand, I hope that Danielle isn't this season's goat. Having her on the show until the final episode will be painful but I can see it happening.

The bright side of seeing Frank and Joe up for elimination is that the house will be evenly divided between the men and the women if the coaches all come back into the game tonight. Janelle was pitching a girl-power alliance on the first episode, wasn't she? I bet we'll get a girls-plus-Shane alliance out of the deal with a Janelle/Britney/Danielle/Shane final four. I have no reason to believe that they won't keep Shane around as a shield. Wil probably could have played that role if he wasn't such a pissy jerk and a lousy competitor.

[Luv2Soap]

IMO, Ian looked pretty upset towards the end of the episode when Shane decided to use the POV. I wonder if something happened that wasn't shown on this episode? I wonder if someone yelled at Ian?

IIRC Boogie gave Ian a dressing down for his answer to Britney. Don't know for sure as to when that happened in regards to the POV ceremony. I do know that Shane gave Frank a heads up prior to the ceremony that he was going up. Something may have gong down then.

I'm sure someone else on the boards could answer this better.

[Imonrey]

I did cringe a little bit as Janelle offered Britney and Shane her wedding ring and Chanel earrings.

I'm not ready to jump on the "Shane is in the closet" bandwagon just yet, but when Britney said "I do love your Chanel earrings," Shane clearly said "So do I." So, yeah. I get it.

As for why Ashley came down instead of Frank, Shane and Brit's big plot was to say they put up Frank to guarantee Ian and Jenn would vote to evict Joe. They're still pretending Joe is their target, and further pretending they were afraid Ian was going to vote to evict Ashley based on some flimsy excuse and/or his wishy-washy answer about nominating Shane next week. As if he'd win HoH.

Frank unwittingly blew it with Shane, although I don't think Shane is bright enough to have caught it. In the arcade room when Shane was telling Frank about Britney and Ian's talk, Frank said Ian said that "Because Mike hasn't told him what to do yet." Frank as much as admitted that Ian is doing whatever Mike tells him to do. And if that's the case it's just as reasonable to assume Frank and Jenn are too. Which means all the bullshit Frank has been trying to feed Shane about working together is just that - bullshit.

Again, I don't think Shane caught it though.

[Plethora]

Sometimes I fall in love with Big Brother all over again and Janelle in her DR saying "Boogie is probably scheming right now" and then cut to elevator music and Boogie talking about working out in between pauses. My heart was a flutter.

Shane needs to learn how to throw comps.

I want Frank gone so Boogie will be sad, I can watch Joe on mute for another week.

Edited by Plethora, Aug 2, 2012 @ 5:10 PM.