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Posted Jul 9, 2012 @ 9:16 PM

3 Fantasy Dates Tonight

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Posted Jul 9, 2012 @ 9:18 PM

Does Emily's crying seem fake? I think she sheds maybe a tear?
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Posted Jul 9, 2012 @ 9:18 PM

Sean's emotions at the end of tonight's show really surprised me. I had no idea he was THAT invested in Emily. I was honestly touched at how sad he was.
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Posted Jul 9, 2012 @ 9:20 PM

I felt really bad for Sean. He was so genuinely hurt; it just wasn't his ego. I wish she would have ditched Arie. Jef for the win!
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Posted Jul 9, 2012 @ 9:21 PM

I feel that Emily and these three final bachelors are about the nicest bunch we've ever had all at once. I know things are never as they seem but no one else has even gotten close.

Emily is really hurting. I think her search has been serious, sincere and sensitive. The three guys she has remaining were all good guys (or seemed to be). I really thought she'd eliminate Jef - not because he's not great but if all three were equal his association with the Mormon faith might be a discriminating factor. Not that if she ends up with him there would be problems necessarily.

All three of the vidoes felt real to me.

I thought Sean had a Michael Anthony Hall thing going on in the getaway vehicle. He was calm and rationale and didn't call names or disparage Ari or Jef.

I think she will pick Ari. I think I'd pick Jef.
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Posted Jul 9, 2012 @ 9:23 PM

Does Emily's crying seem fake? I think she sheds maybe a tear?


I didn't find her crying fake. She looked genuinely sad to be hurting Sean. She comes across to me as someone who has a gentle spirit about her. I'm not saying she doesn't have an inner bitch, I think even the nicest woman has one, but she doesn't strike me as phony in terms of how nice she's been to the guys. Her emotional intelligence is off the charts...
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Posted Jul 9, 2012 @ 9:25 PM

I for sure thought they were leading up to Ari going home because of the edit. It was set up to look like she was so sad to let him go. She got very emotional watching his video, etc... Of course that could have been editing shenanigans and been her reaction to Sean's video. They also appeared to show her rolling her eyes at Jef's video and I certainly don't think she did that.
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Posted Jul 9, 2012 @ 9:25 PM

I think she was honestly hurting.
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Posted Jul 9, 2012 @ 9:28 PM

I was glad Sean held it together and was mature in the car. I'd take him (I think I could cure his lizard tongue). I felt bad for him. He seemed sincere and really hurt.

As for Arie- for the first time tonight, at the rose ceremony, I thought he was smoking hot with his tan. I always thhought bf he was chalky and clammy looking. He needs to keep that tan. To quote Emily, good lord.

I wasn't totally paying attention- where is that gorgeous place they were at this week? Simply stunning locale.

I see Emily's bad taste in rose ceremony outfits continue. Whoeve thought a tank top with flowing Christmas tree tinsel was a good idea needs glasses. But her boobs looked good in it.
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Posted Jul 9, 2012 @ 9:28 PM

Emily really needs to lose the fake "Chrissy from Three's Company" ponytail. That thing is just silly.

She would be crazy not to go for Jef.
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Posted Jul 9, 2012 @ 9:29 PM

All three of the videos felt real to me


Me, too! Until they showed Arie's outtakes at the end of the show and I became totally convinced that he has no clearly defined feelings for Emily whatsoever, other than he just likes kissing her.

So, Jef for the win...although it's looking more like there's no engagement at all and Emily chooses to date them both. Now that truly would be the most shocking rose ceremony evah!
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Posted Jul 9, 2012 @ 9:30 PM

I think she is fake. Her personality, teeth, boobs. Fake house they put her in. Everything. Her narrating sounds like she is reading from cue cards. I cant't believe these men agree to make asses of themselves in those videos. I guess they have no choice. The whole love thing baffles me. They are not in love. And haven't any of these people seen the show before? Many people think they are the one and get dumped. Also they act as if the bachelor/bachelorette have a chose in the matter of how they react to them. It's a TV show. They can only say and do so much. "follow my heart". "I can see myself with this person". They have to get some different phrases.
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Posted Jul 9, 2012 @ 9:31 PM

I was bored by much of tonight. Too little date, too much blah blah blahing at the end. Maybe it's because I felt it was a foregone conclusion since Prague that Arie and Jef would remain the final 2.

I would pick Jef despite her "not trusting herself" around Arie (that sounds like such BS to me, btw) because they actually talk and they still seem attracted to each other. I loved the questions he was asking her and I love how she is more her age around him. It's a really nice balance there.

That said, Arie is fire. I can understand the need to be making out with him all the time. Damn.
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Posted Jul 9, 2012 @ 9:33 PM

I'm a Jef girl, but the chemistry and passion between she and Are are undeniable. I think her bawling started when she realized that she couldn't spend the night with Arie. Emily has also said some things tonight that she will have to explain if she chooses Jef.

I love Jef, but I just wish he would be a bit more passionate with Emily. Maybe he is nervous and uncomfortable with the cameras around.
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Posted Jul 9, 2012 @ 9:34 PM

Wow...she didn't even invite Arie to the Fantasy Suite....what??? If I were him, I'd wonder what the hell happened. He must know there's a suite in the mix, yet he didn't even get the invitation? Now the question is...did she not do it because she honestly doesn't trust herself around him? Or did she do it so that she can say to Jef...see, I knew I loved you so I didn't want to lead Arie on further? But then again, she had no problem leading Sean on and making out with him in the Fantasy Suite Hot Tub. Wouldn't Jef take issue with that? I will say....I've been lukewarm towards Arie all season but he was stupid hot tonight. He may not be a race car champion but he's a champion kisser, that's for sure. Sizzling.

I can't believe I have no idea what Emily will do next week. I am always, ALWAYS able to predict with 95% certainty who wins at at the end. The only season I've been wrong about was Trista with Charlie and Ryan. I've met my match in Emily!

Sean's dumping was hard to watch, even though it was totally expected. He's too fair for the hot Curacao sun but I love him anyway. Sean, call me!

Edited by PetuniaP, Jul 9, 2012 @ 9:38 PM.

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Posted Jul 9, 2012 @ 9:34 PM

I was stunned at Sean's very genuine hurt. I never got the sense he was that into her, but maybe he just has trouble showing emotion.

I like Jef and Arie a lot, but the reason I prefer Arie is his self-deprecating goofiness. Jef seems humble but his words and actions are always so perfectly tuned to her desires; he's quite artful. With Arie it seems more straightforward. I just find him gorgeous and adorkable. Also, I thought his answer about becoming a parent to Ricki was utterly sensible and honest.

She hesitated so long before giving out her second rose, which was weird. It just seemed like a dead giveaway that she was seriously contemplating letting Arie go.

Edited by Scoutlet, Jul 9, 2012 @ 9:39 PM.

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Posted Jul 9, 2012 @ 9:36 PM

I found myself really liking Emily in this episode, not because she was hurting, but because you could see the sincere emotion she usually keeps inside. I much prefer Emily the person to Emily the product, the perfect Southern Belle in a sparkly dress. Tonight found me rooting even more for Jef, because I do think he brings out the more genuine, light hearted, and girlish side of Emily, which is very attractive. Maybe he really does, like, get her.

I was also surprised by how invested I was in the drama of the rose ceremony, considering how long I have felt certain that Arie and Jef would be the last men standing. Sean seemed like a good dude (although I agree with someone's previous description that he looks like his face has been peeled), but I never saw the kind of physical or emotional chemistry with him that she had with the other two. You could tell such a difference between her body chemistry with Sean and her body chemistry with Jef on the boat.

I am concerned that Jef is in love with the fantasy of a perfect love, and that "after the final rose" it is not all about picnics in the park with little Rickie and watching the sunset together. But they do seem to have some kind of special understanding that I have to say I have never seen on the franchise before. Sometimes you see that with couples in real life where maybe not everyone else gets their connection, but they do.

Sure she is fake in a lot of ways (her false eyelashes, platinum hair, and perfect Southern manners), but I agree that she is the best Bachelorette ever.
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Posted Jul 9, 2012 @ 9:39 PM

I'm with Jette -- the promos seem to me to indicate that Emily will not - cannot - make a decision. I'm all for Jef now and I wasn't at first, but he grew on me -- he does have his mature side. I really hate if the whole season comes down to.....nothing. I was pretty sure that Sean was going tonight, but I can't tell you why. And the final clip of Arie's doing his 'video' pretty much clinched it for me -- I'm going with Jef.
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Posted Jul 9, 2012 @ 9:40 PM

I don't see how she can pick anyone but Ari after all the talk about how much she enjoys kissing him and then the nonstop making out on the date tonight and not trusting herself in the fantasy suite with him. If she chooses someone else he'll instantly feel like a chump when he watches them getting it on.
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Posted Jul 9, 2012 @ 9:41 PM

The whole love thing baffles me. They are not in love. And haven't any of these people seen the show before? Many people think they are the one and get dumped. Also they act as if the bachelor/bachelorette have a chose in the matter of how they react to them.


When Sean said she really hurt him (or something like that) I felt like he should have said "My decision to go on this show and my gullibility in allowing myself to believe I was the top pick really hurt me."

Jef seems humble but his words and actions are always so perfectly tuned to her desires; he's quite artful.


That is a perfect description of Jef, Scoutlet. I knew when she offered him the fantasy suite card, he wasn't going to say how he was feeling "Hubba, hubba! Let's go!" but was going to say something designed to sound chivalrous, which he did.

Edited by MaryShelley, Jul 9, 2012 @ 9:43 PM.

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Posted Jul 9, 2012 @ 9:41 PM

I think Emily is gorgeous; I don't find her fake at all. Plenty of women get teeth work done ie: braces, crowns, veneers, and plenty of women color their hair and/or get breast augmentation or reduction. I see it as a woman taking pride in her appearance and doing what she feels is right for her. Men color their hair, get veneers, and have all kinds of plastic surgery but society lets them off the hook and never calls them on it.

Tonight her skirt at the rose ceremony instantly reminded me of the little old lady in 16 Candles who walked down the church aisle with her skirt swooshing and making that funny noise. Yes, that memory dates me but I can't help it. It was exactly what I thought of when I saw Emily walking in it.
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Posted Jul 9, 2012 @ 9:42 PM

I didn't think Arie's little bloopers reel made him seem disingenuous. I think he was just nervous and self-conscious, which I kind of like about him. Most men would feel a little silly giving a very personal speech like that in front of cameras. It doesn't make him a player.

I'd worry a lot more about a guy who smoothly delivered that speech without blinking.

Edited by Scoutlet, Jul 9, 2012 @ 9:44 PM.

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Posted Jul 9, 2012 @ 9:44 PM

Wow. I figured that Sean was the safety guy, Arie the chemistry guy, and Jef as F1 - the one she actually can see a future with. So I thought she'd let Arie go. Sean's emotions at the end really moved me - he can have all of the roses growing in my backyard, wink wink.

I think Emily's emotions at the RC were quite real*. Sean has always been the perfect guy, nothing but kind and courteous to her. She knew that she was going to blindside him and it bothered her. And she was moved by his emotions, particularly the embarrassment he felt.


* Unlike her forehead, which was very weird and artificial and makes me think she indulged in a cosmetic procedure.

Edited by neptune42, Jul 9, 2012 @ 9:46 PM.

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Posted Jul 9, 2012 @ 9:45 PM

I don't see how she can pick anyone but Ari after all the talk about how much she enjoys kissing him and then the nonstop making out on the date tonight and not trusting herself in the fantasy suite with him. If she chooses someone else he'll instantly feel like a chump when he watches them getting it on


I agree! I remember hearing how Emily gave Brad a terrible time, well even by her own admission she said Mondays after the show aired were terrible for Brad because he had to explain to her why he was kissing Chantal, and the other women so much. Now the shoe is on the other foot. I wonder if Emily now has some compassion for Brad and what she put him through, now knowing what it's like to be the lead in this show.
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Posted Jul 9, 2012 @ 9:49 PM

I thought there was a lot of fake crying. There was a lot of sniffing and holding her hands to her eyes, but were there ever any tears?? I guess Emily has been a good bachelorette, but she is totally a barbie doll---lots of fake all the way around from boobs to nose to veneers to plumped lips to fake tan, etc. I guess it is a look guys definitely go for.
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Posted Jul 9, 2012 @ 9:50 PM

I thought Emily's skirt for the Rose Ceremony made her look like the Little Mermaid. All she needed was a few flippers. And I loved Arie's bloopers at the end. They were all reading off of a teleprompter or cue cards so I don't doubt that the others had a few mistakes. But his were pretty funny. Merp.

Did anyone notice that Sean's letter to Emily looked like it was written in the same hand writing as the Fantasy Date cards? I need to take a closer look at that when the video is posted.

I have just one thing to say to Sean. SPF 60. He is too fair-skinned to keep letting himself get fried like that. But pale Dutchman Arie -- hot with a tan. Hot, hot, hot. Dressed in skinny jeans -- not, not, not. Those were skinny jeans he was wearing weren't they? I mean, skinny khakis?

Edited by kate123, Jul 9, 2012 @ 10:05 PM.

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Posted Jul 9, 2012 @ 9:54 PM

Word on Sean and the sunscreen. I don't like very blonde men, but even less so with red faces. Sweet guy though.

I'm still Team Arie (love that guy), but she can't go wrong with these two. Two great guys!
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Posted Jul 9, 2012 @ 9:54 PM

I don't think Jef or Arie will survive in a life with her outside the show. The whole ricky thing is going to get majorly complicated. It is very interesting how her answers to jef and arie about where she would move and settle were totally different. Did anyone catch this? With Jef she said that she wanted them to have their own little life not where she lived and not in salt lake city. With Arie she said she'd move to arizona. Her answers are very taylored.
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Posted Jul 9, 2012 @ 10:05 PM

Did anyone notice that Sean's letter to Emily looked like it was written in the same hand writing as the Fantasy Date cards? I need to take a closer look at that when the video is posted.


It was slightly different writing, but I thought it looked like Sean had the writing of a fourteen-year-old girl. Not in any way masculine.
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Posted Jul 9, 2012 @ 10:05 PM

Sean's body language when he was telling Emily he loved her and their kisses afterward were so distant. I had a hunch he was going tonight and as I watched them together I thought he is just not giving Emily enough for her to pick him. I think he told her he loved her just to stay on the show.

Now I am totally freaked out that she is going to pick Arie. And I want it to be "our love story is like a masterpiece" Jef. Anyone notice how expressive he is with his hands when he talks? I think that is so adorable about him. I'm hoping that Emily did not do the fantasy suite overnights with anyone so that Ma and Pa Mormon could not hold that against her.

One thing I am not worried about is that there won't be a proposal. The first rule of the Bachelor franchise is when they hint at X, it ends up being Y at the end.

Also, according to Reality Steve the deal with Arie coming on the show was that he makes it to the end. That was probably part of the "off camera" discussion Emily, Arie and Cassie had. Arie makes it to the end and gets his heart broken and gets to be the next Bachelor.
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