Peter Parker, an outcast high schooler who was abandoned by his parents as a boy, leaving him to be raised by his Uncle Ben and Aunt May. Like most teenagers, Peter is trying to figure out who he is and how he got to be the person he is today. Peter is also finding his way with his first high school crush, Gwen Stacy, and together, they struggle with love, commitment, and secrets. As Peter discovers a mysterious briefcase that belonged to his father, he begins a quest to understand his parents' disappearance -- leading him directly to Oscorp and the lab of Dr. Curt Connors, his father's former partner. As Spider-Man is set on a collision course with Connors' alter-ego, The Lizard, Peter will make life-altering choices to use his powers and shape his destiny to become a hero.
The Amazing Spider-Man
#1
Posted Jul 2, 2012 @ 8:45 PM
#2
Posted Jul 3, 2012 @ 5:11 PM
As apparently the first poster in this thread, i just have a couple of thoughts about the film.
I liked it, although I didn´t think it was funny. Certainly entertaining and at times a thrill, but I can count the number of times I was chuckling, nevermind laughing, on one hand. Visually it was okay, they seemed to have put more emphasis on the action then on overwhelming effects. The 3D didn´t exactly wow me, either, but maybe at this stage I just got used to it. The topic for the reboot seems to be the loss of father figures, because man! Do they go through them in this one. Reminded me of Batman Begins, where Bruce´s mother was also just there, but her loss is not the driving force behind his actions.
The chemistry between Emma Stone and Andrew Garfield is palpable, although I find her character a bit hard to swallow. There´s no real development for her, but at least she´s not just arm candy. Their conversations had a lot of teen-awkwardness and confusion, which nowadays always reminds me of Twilight. That was not appreciated.
Garfield´s slight physique makes for a better Spider-Man then Tobey Maguire´s stockier body did, imo. The agility is more believable that way. His trash-talking while in action was over-the-top, though. I know he´s supposed to feel liberated thanks to his suit, but he was annoying me with his chatter.
Sally Field seemed underused, although in her case, i´m not sure that´s a bad thing. For a few of the characters i was not quiet sure where they were coming from, and hers was one of it. They just felt not quiet ... there.
Stan Lee looked really old and frail to me during his cameo, i hope he´s doing okay.
All in all an enjoyable movie, although I probably won´t watch it again. And don´t leave the theater when the credits start rolling, there´s another nugget hidden in them, as apparently it´s customary now for a comic movie.
Looking forward to what you guys have to say to it!
Edited by loosy, Jul 3, 2012 @ 5:12 PM.
#3
Posted Jul 4, 2012 @ 12:10 AM
Thought the web-slinging effects were awesome and that fights between Spidey and Lizard were great. I was glad they kept the robber origin intact though I felt it was odd that he didn't end up finding him. As pointed out, there seemed to be a lot of plot threads that never got resolved.
Although too old for the role, I thought Andrew Garfield did a great job. I liked the fact that Spider-Man actually told jokes when he was in costume. I never understood why Sam Raimi never bothered to make Peter funny when he was in costume. Emma Stone was really good as Gwen, much better than Kirsten Dunst as Mary Jane in the original trilogy. She has good chemistry with Garfield (considering they're dating in real life, that shouldn't come as a surprise) and it was refreshing that the entire final battle didn't consist of Peter having to rescue her.
The rest of the cast did a great job. Denis Leary is always entertaining and his dinner scene with Peter was fun. I had a feeling things were going to play out with him like they did, especially since it came from the comics. Martin Sheen manages to do likeable characters really, really well. Sally Field definitely looked like she had some scenes left on the cutting room floor but made the most out of all the scenes she was in. The actor who was really wasted was Irrfan Khan. I saw that guy on In Treatment and he's an amazing actor. He might as well have not been in the film. Although he really annoyed during an interview I read with him last year where he said he originally didn't want to be in a "violent American fantasy."
Ifans was very good as Conners and I liked the design of The Lizard. I take it there have been some storylines in the comics where the Lizard maintains Connors personality? His "make everyone a lizard" plan reminded me of Doc Ock's zero energy plan. That's the one thing with Spidey's rogues gallery. He has a lot of memorable villains to be sure but most of them are either in it for crime or to kill Spider-Man. He doesn't have many "rule/destroy the world" types to fight. So they give Spidey's villains in the movies scenarios where Peter has to save the city from destruction and so on.
Parts of this film definitely felt like a remake of the first film. But I did end up enjoying it and I think the FX has gotten a lot better. I can't say I'm looking forward to the return of Norman Osborn though.
Re-doing the origin wasn't as interesting as Peter being Spider-Man.
Edited by benteen, Jul 4, 2012 @ 12:38 AM.
#4
Posted Jul 4, 2012 @ 11:26 AM
Although too old for the role, I thought Andrew Garfield did a great job. I liked the fact that Spider-Man actually told jokes when he was in costume. I never understood why Sam Raimi never bothered to make Peter funny when he was in costume
I remember Tobey Maguire's Spiderman making jokes. Although they weren't that funny.
The topic for the reboot seems to be the loss of father figures, because man! Do they go through them in this one. Reminded me of Batman Begins, where Bruce´s mother was also just there, but her loss is not the driving force behind his actions.
It kind of annoys me when male characters lose both their parents but only the loss of their father really matters.
Edited by oreo8704, Jul 4, 2012 @ 10:39 PM.
#5
Posted Jul 4, 2012 @ 11:56 AM
I liked the fact that Spider-Man actually told jokes when he was in costume. I never understood why Sam Raimi never bothered to make Peter funny when he was in costume
I remember Toby Maguire's Spiderman making jokes. Although they weren't that funny.
I've not seen this new one yet, but the lack of Peter Parker wit was a big problem with the first movies. Tobey Maguire just didn't have the delivery I'd expect of Spider-Man, no snap and the jokes just seemed so very laboured. They were strangely po-faced, for Sam Raimi movies. Except the third one, which I have long since concluded was a deliberate parody.
The constant stream of nervous jokes are such a big part of who Spider-Man is, in my view. Spider-Man without that patter loses a lot of his appeal, pretty much just becomes your garden variety vigilante type. And the thing is, a lot of his jokes aren't funny, but they're delivered with enough charm that you roll your eyes with a smile, instead of frowning. The early-90s Spider-Man cartoon is the closest I think I've seen to the comic book character on screen.
#6
Posted Jul 4, 2012 @ 2:43 PM
#7
Posted Jul 4, 2012 @ 3:23 PM
The pacing wasn't great though, which is too bad. I liked it better than Spider-Man and (obviously) Spider-Man 3, but still think Spider-Man 2 was the superior film.
I have to say I freaking ADORED Stone's Gwen though. Way to make Dunst's MJ look like a total twit in comparisno.
#8
Posted Jul 4, 2012 @ 3:44 PM
I liked how ultimately Peter decided not to dump Gwen. It will get her killed one day if they follow the comics but, well, it was a freak accident. And maybe it won't happen since he didn't kill that one kid when he shot his web down to catch him.
I really liked how all the construction people made it possible for Spider-Man to get to the building. That cop who shot right when he was told not to was pretty stpuid, though.
I felt really bad for Connors, though. It was kind of his fault in that he chose to experiment on himself but, unlike most people who do so in comics, he only did that so he'd be able to stop the other guy from experimenting on others. And sure, he kept injecting more after he knew what was happening but by that point he was kind of nuts. Nearly killing all those people and then telling Peter that he didn't have to stop him...Yep, definitely a problem. But at the end he saved Peter (caught him twice) and the moment he remembered about Gwen's father he was horrified and told Peter about it. I don't think he was really a bad guy for all that his alter ego ran wild and killed people.
I liked how Peter pretty much told Gwen right away and how she proved instrumental in saving the day. What's more, she didn't do it in an annoying or unbelievable way but she just stayed and risekd her life to get the antidote. They were really cute together, especially when he finally managed to tell her. And was she the one who came up with the name? I think she was the first to mention it and then Peter said it to the dad of the kid he saved.
I'm a little concerned with giving an anti-lizard antidote to a city full of people who were not lizards might do to them, though. There's a reason you're only supposed to take medicine if you're sick and this can't work as a vaccine as it cured people.
I don't blame Peter for never telling Aunt May. Sally Fields or not, that character annoyed me. Did she actually do anything in the movie besides give advice no one listened to and sit at home waiting helplessly and worrying about other people?
#9
Posted Jul 4, 2012 @ 4:31 PM
#10
Posted Jul 4, 2012 @ 9:40 PM
I liked how ultimately Peter decided not to dump Gwen. It will get her killed one day if they follow the comics but, well, it was a freak accident. And maybe it won't happen since he didn't kill that one kid when he shot his web down to catch him.
Emma Stone said recently in an interview that Gwen has to die. I don't know if the movies will go there though.
I've seen some complaints that they shouldn't have written out Connors wife and son.
#11
Posted Jul 4, 2012 @ 10:48 PM
#12
Posted Jul 4, 2012 @ 11:05 PM
I've been thinking possibly Roderick Kingsley.
#13
Posted Jul 4, 2012 @ 11:19 PM
I think it's because he knows the vigilante is out there (and his people have seen it and there's a video of him on the internet) and for all he knows it's just an average in-shape guy using advanced technology. It's perfectly within the realm of believability.Also found it odd that Denis Leary's character was so focused on catching the vigilante when there's a FREAKING GIANT LIZARD terrorizing the city.
Then there's apparently some kind of dinosaur running around or something. But no one's really clear on what happened on the bridge and Spiderman was there, so...But he wasn't completely close-minded. He did start looking up the stuff about Dr. Connors and he also let Spider-Man go when he said that the Lizard was going to kill Gwen.
I hope it isn't so anyway. How many people does he have to get killed before he's appropriately matured anyway? There's Uncle Ben and Gwen's dad and what happened with the Lizard is partially on him for making it possible...I think he gets it already. And I really don't want Mary Jane introduced. Although I'm wondering where the hell Harry is.Emma Stone said recently in an interview that Gwen has to die.
#14
Posted Jul 5, 2012 @ 12:03 AM
Agreed that Aunt May seemed pointless, especially after Uncle Ben died and all she did was watch the mayhem on t.v and shoot concerned glances.
Yeah lol.He knew at that point that the homicidal lizard attacked the high school right? Was also wondering why the lizard felt the need to put on his lab coat on his way to oscorp....Also found it odd that Denis Leary's character was so focused on catching the vigilante when there's a FREAKING GIANT LIZARD terrorizing the city.
Ugh, I left the theater during the credits. Can anyone fill me in on what happened in the bonus scene?
#15
Posted Jul 5, 2012 @ 1:25 AM
Connors appears to be in a jail cell and a man from the shadow asks if he told Peter the truth about his father. Connors says of course not and the man says that that's good because now they can leave Peter alone for awhile. Connors gets upset at that and thinks that they should leave Peter alone period.Ugh, I left the theater during the credits. Can anyone fill me in on what happened in the bonus scene?
#16
Posted Jul 5, 2012 @ 9:04 AM
Gwen was even smart enough to know that her dad was the reason Peter was staying away from her. I also liked that in this movie she wasn't the damsel in distress and she actually helped save the world by getting the antidote.
Andrew Garfield did a great job portraying Peter's awkwardness. And I liked the chemistry between him and Emma Stone (not surprising because they are dating irl). I also liked that villain wasn't really bad, the serum mad him insane but once it wore off he was horrified at what he had done.
I think Gwen's death made the Spiderman stories different then the other comic book heroes. It shows that having powers doesn't make you God, Uncle Ben died because he didn't want to get involved and Gwen's dad died doing his job. Gwen died because he tried to save her and failed. Learning that you can't save everyone is a huge lesson to learn. On that note I also hope they don't follow the rest of Gwen's story from the comics.
#17
Posted Jul 5, 2012 @ 10:25 AM
There was 1 scene that made me stare in disbelief. The Lizard attacks the high school and winds up with Spiderman in a chem. lab. He grabs 2 random flasks of colored liquid, mixes them together, throws them at Spiderman, and they explode with the force of a grenade. Um, chemistry fail! It's also been my experience that high school research interns are all but useless compared to undergrad or grad students.
Other minor nitpicks. In a couple of scenes, Garfield looked like he was about 35 years old, not a high schooler. Also, his English accent slipped in occasionally, and sometimes he went from generic American to New Yawk stereotype.
Edited by futurechemist, Jul 5, 2012 @ 10:26 AM.
#18
Posted Jul 5, 2012 @ 12:54 PM
I agree that Peter has already lost enough people that we don't really need to see him losing anymore. Especially if his father is alive because you just know good guy or bad guy that he's going to die again. Peter's mother...well, he sure doesn't seem that sad about her death.
The differences between Gwen and Mary Jane...I never read those Spider-Man comics (though I hope to purchase the Marvel Masterworks of those one of these days) so I can't compare their two personalities. But I have read the two-part issue dealing with Gwen's death and it's a great story and an absolute game-changer for Spider-Man. It would make for a great movie but a depressing one and I doubt the franchise would go in that direction.
I thought Captain Stacey (did he have a first name in the film?) might die. That is consistent with the comics. I think he had also figured out Spider-Man's true identity at that point.
#19
Posted Jul 5, 2012 @ 1:35 PM
He didn't figure it out so much as saw Spider-Man with his mask off.I think he had also figured out Spider-Man's true identity at that point.
#20
Posted Jul 5, 2012 @ 2:42 PM
#21
Posted Jul 5, 2012 @ 3:34 PM
Garfield is a good Peter but was definitely way too old to be playing the character. I think bringing him back to high school was great (although in the comics, Peter was done with high school after 29 issues I believe) but then they cast someone who is pushing 30 in the role. Weird.
I think he looks young for his age. I was surprised to hear he is 28.
#22
Posted Jul 5, 2012 @ 8:29 PM
Loved his and Emma Stone's acting. I loved Gwen so much that I just kept thinking "please don't die!" towards the end. She's smart; she doesn't listen to her bf (that scene in which Spidey is trying to convince her to get out of Oscorp and she refuses was my favorite), she's not useless. She doesn't deserve to be "fridged". But if they want to be faithful to the comics, then the only people I can be mad at are the comic book writers who killed her off in the first place!
I wish they had gone with Aunt May's personality from Brian Bendis' "Ultimate Spider-Man": active, funloving, more of a disciplinarian than Uncle Ben. At least they implied that she figured out Peter's secret by the end.
Some observations as a long time Spidey fan:
-Gwen had a lot of Liz Allen's science nerd personality mixed in with her own. My only issue with this is that I would like to see Liz Allen, but they could still fit her in if they want to (who was that nerdy girl painting a sign in the gym?)
-Flash Thompson was pitch perfect. A bullying jock, but not an irredeemable jackass, just a bit of a jerk. I got the impression that he and Peter were developing a friendship (or at least warming up to each other) at the end, and that's just how it should be.
-Writing out Conner's wife and son took away from his character and his relationship with Peter (who, IIRC, bonds a bit with Conner's son in the books/most animated versions). Wish he had saved Conner's son rather than a random kid, but that scene on the bridge (the saving of the kid part) was still great.
-Too much stupidity! Peter, you *NEVER* just walk into a room with test subjects like that! Uncle Ben should've known better than to struggle with a man over a gun! In both cases, I felt that the victims partially brought their fates onto themselves, and that really bothered me.
-Peter with old fashioned film camera: Good; Peter with skateboard: WTF? Well, at least it served him well in the montage.
-Spider-Man builds a web in the sewers and uses it to find and track an enemy's movements was one of the the best uses of webbing in four Spider-Man films, and made for a great visual.
-I remember Peter in the comics and the 90's cartoons as having 3 essential personality points: A boatload of guilt (and bad luck), Sarcasm, and a slight jerk/selfish streak (in a mostly humanizing way: Superman would never take pictures of himself for money). They incorporated all three to a pretty good effect.
-The carjacker scene. I had already seen it too many times in the previews, but it was still a great scene.
-Oh, and Denis Leary as Capt. Stacey was great, but since when was Gwen's mom alive? The two younger brothers were especially mind boggling (cute, though).
Just in case anyone thinks I'm being too positive, I thought the movie was way too long overall, the villain's monologues were awful, the resolution to douse the city in an untested substance was dangerous and ridiculous, others have already mentioned the unresolved Veteran's Hospital plot and Pete not finding Ben's killer, although I took the last one as Peter taking Capt. Stacey's words about a personal vendetta to heart. Aunt May really, really grated on my nerves. I realize that they wanted to keep things different from the previous films, but leaving out Harry and Norman Osborne was not a good idea, they're both too important to Peter and his character. The movie was okay, not great by any means.
The million dollar question: who visited Conners in his cell at the end? My brother said it could be The Jackal, the guy who cloned Peter (which led to the infamous Clone Saga, but the Jackal by himself was a good villain). I have no idea. Since they used so many of Peter's enemies in Raime's trilogy, who can they use next? Personally, I've always like Morbius "The Living Vampire" but they really shouldn't mix vampires with superheroes in any movie!
#23
Posted Jul 5, 2012 @ 9:05 PM
Personally, I was relieved that Sally Field wasn't in the movie much, because she overacts, imo. However, I thought Emma Stone was underutilized as well. She's mostly relegated to the girlfriend scenes except for the end.
I loved the crane scene, and I'm a sucker for stuff like that, when other characters help the hero. But I heard a lot of people hated that part.
#24
Posted Jul 5, 2012 @ 9:25 PM
I think that was the whole point and illustrating what he had been telling Peter about how if he has gifts he's obligated to use them. He could have stopped the guy with the gun but didn't so the guy went and shot someone. Maybe Ben wouldn't have done anything if he guy had just run past but he clearly thought he had a decent chance of getting to it before the guy did. He was wrong and he paid for it. He was trying to do good like Peter should have but, unlike Peter, he was not qualified to do so.Uncle Ben should've known better than to struggle with a man over a gun! In both cases, I felt that the victims partially brought their fates onto themselves, and that really bothered me.
I don't think that's such a big deal. And since she's still in high school, we'd have to deal with end of movie problems about where she lives. Why can't this be a universe where she still has a moher and two extra brothers?but since when was Gwen's mom alive? The two younger brothers were especially mind boggling (cute, though).
This so much.the resolution to douse the city in an untested substance was dangerous and ridiculous,
I think it's perfectly realistic that he just never runs into the guy again. Lots of random shootings are never resolved and just because he's Spider-Man doesn't mean he can change that no matter how many blonde criminals he beats up. Though he seems to have forgotten what the guya ctually looked like as he only checked their wrists and, aside from being blonde, some of those guys really looked nothing like the guy who killed Ben.Pete not finding Ben's killer, although I took the last one as Peter taking Capt. Stacey's words about a personal vendetta to heart.
I don't think that he should stop looking for the killer just because the captain was talking about a personal vendetta because he killed a man and deserves to be in jail for it. Peter just stopped beating up random blonde thugs.
Of course, if this were Superman then he'd have no excuse not to have the guy by now unless he lives in a lead apartment or something.
#25
Posted Jul 5, 2012 @ 11:26 PM
I also had the thought that having actors who look like they're in their mid 20s playing Peter and Gwen, they should have probably just went ahead and set the thing in college, had Flash there as a scholarship athlete, and called it a day. Peter can still be a poor kid living with his Aunt and Uncle for money reasons.
Still, I was surprised at how good it was overall.
#26
Posted Jul 6, 2012 @ 12:37 AM
Oh, and they could have killed Aunt May instead! Talk about original.I had the thought while watching that maybe they should have just had Peter's uncle live as a way to really drive home that this is its own version of the Spider-Man story.
#27
Posted Jul 6, 2012 @ 8:43 AM
-I was never a big fan of the Sam Raimi trilogy and have no loyalty there whatsoever, so I don't care about them redoing it so soon. I just hoped they'd do it better, and IMO they did. It was kind of dull seeing all the origin stuff again, but that's a problem with any remake. It probably would've been a better idea to pick a villain who was more different to the Green Goblin, though.
-I loved how funny it was. We were having gigglefits throughout the first two acts. It made it entertaining, and it made Peter and Gwen very likable.
-While I'm on Gwen, I just need to register how pleased I am that we got a good superhero love interest, because that doesn't happen a lot. There was one bit I didn't like there - it was that Peter decided to honour his promise to her father in a completely dickish way for absolutely no reason. And I totally thought that was going to be the source of ridiculously needless angst for the sequel and was so not looking forward to that... Until she realised why he was suddenly ignoring her, and then he implied his was going to break the promise anyway, so it ended up being a pretty minor problem. Anyway, apart from that, they were cute together, there was a pleasantly surprising lack of Secrets & Lies Wangst, and she was supportive, reasonable, helpful, heroic and brave. I didn't even mind the semi-damsel-in-distress part, since it was pretty minor in the end (no random kidnappings or muggings here - she and the villain were in the same building, until he left her alone and she just walked out) and it was because she'd made the decision to take that risk to help stop the Lizard, and had succeeded.
-I also loved the way they blended the teenager and the superhero aspects of Peter. He gets bored and plays games on his phone while doing villain surveillance, he kids around while in the suit, and when he gets superpowers, the first thing he does is use them to get really good at skateboarding. That montage was a little cheesy, but I still liked it because I think I'd be doing the exact same thing if I got spider powers.
-I'm not usually a huge fan of superhero movie fight scenes, but I was surprised at how much I liked these ones. Putting so much emphasis on Peter's agility was a very good choice.
-Everything with poor Aunt May made me very sad, but I'm such an easy mark there - I can't stand to see elderly people getting upset or anything. That scene with the Green Goblin and Aunt May in the original scared the living hell out of me as a kid.
-The Lizard was mostly okay as a villain, but the part that really pleased me was that once he stopped being the Lizard, he rescued Peter and went to prison quietly. Judging by his neck scales in the credits scene, he'll probably be back as the Lizard someday, but the fact that he was redeemed in this movie really emphasized that he was a fairly decent man who just wasn't strong enough to resist his temptation or his insanity lizard serum.
Edited by furrylump, Jul 6, 2012 @ 1:31 PM.
#28
Posted Jul 6, 2012 @ 8:51 AM
I think he looks young for his age. I was surprised to hear he is 28.
Not knowing much about either of the leads I thought they were both in their very early 20s. I commented during the movie that I thought it was good to see a younger looking actor than Tobey Maguire. I was also surprised that Garfiend is 28.
#29
Posted Jul 6, 2012 @ 9:34 AM
-While I'm on Gwen, I just need to register to say how pleased I am that we got a good superhero love interest, because that doesn't happen a lot.
Superhero love interests have gotten better lately since Mary Jane, who had to be rescued in every film and was such a lowlife she left her fiance (who was a nice guy) at the alter, humuiliating him in front of his friends and family.
I'm not a Gwyenth (however you spell her first name) fan but I liked her Pepper Potts character a lot. She actually brought something to the table and works well off of Robert Downey Jr. Haley Atwell also did a great job and like Potts was a strong character in Captain America. Emma Stone's Gwen Stacey seems to be continuing this welcome trend.
#30
Posted Jul 6, 2012 @ 11:22 AM
Showing that not only people with super powers can help save the world. Gwen hung up on Peter when he kept telling her to leave, but she knew that the world was in danger and needed the antidote. And her father was going to fight off the Lizard so Peter can stop the rest of the world from becoming lizard people.
Edited by Sakura12, Jul 9, 2012 @ 8:24 AM.









