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Posted Mar 4, 2013 @ 4:56 PM

The lead, Travis Fimmel, looks so much like Andy Whitfield it's scary.


I think he looks a lot like the guy from Sons Of Anarchy. He could be Jax Teller's twin brother.

So how did this do in the ratings?
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Posted Mar 4, 2013 @ 5:09 PM

So how did this do in the ratings?


It looks like it did pretty good. Granted, that's a press release from the History Channel themselves, but from what I can tell, those are pretty good numbers.
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Posted Mar 4, 2013 @ 6:56 PM

Oh, I'm in. Lagertha is incredible as a character, even after only the first episode. "You couldn't kill me if you tried for a hundred years," has to go down as one of the best lines ever.

I just don't know what they'll do with Floki when they set out. It would be unfortunate to lose him.
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Posted Mar 4, 2013 @ 7:14 PM

It looks like it did pretty good. Granted, that's a press release from the History Channel themselves, but from what I can tell, those are pretty good numbers.


Oh cool, thank you.

So we have a chance to get the additional seasons they were talking about in some of the articles I read last week.

Oh, I'm in. Lagertha is incredible as a character, even after only the first episode. "You couldn't kill me if you tried for a hundred years," has to go down as one of the best lines ever.


Not only is she kickass - she's also warm and funny and loving.
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Posted Mar 4, 2013 @ 8:42 PM

Shit sure got real in the second episode. I mean DAMN!

How many episodes total for this season?
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Posted Mar 4, 2013 @ 8:46 PM

So we have a chance to get the additional seasons they were talking about in some of the articles I read last week.


With 6 million moving up to 8.3 million with the encore it should get a renewal pretty soon. History had a great night all around with The Bible as well.

Oh, I'm in. Lagertha is incredible as a character, even after only the first episode. "You couldn't kill me if you tried for a hundred years," has to go down as one of the best lines ever.


She's very awesome, the only part I'm wary of is the potential "love triangle" between her, Ragnar and Rollo. Ragnar was someone I wanted to smack for his smug bastardness at court as it were and I also saw both sides of Earl Haraldson, so there's a lot of potentially interesting conflict there, Gabriel Byrne is definitely experienced at these type of characters. I'm not entirely sold on Loki's "endearing kookiness" but we'll see.
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Posted Mar 4, 2013 @ 9:21 PM

Well, I'm in.

I kinda like Ragnar's smug ass and since I'm not familiar with the actor I didn't have any preconceived notions about him.

I think this show will be interesting. Not earth-shaking, but interesting.
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Posted Mar 5, 2013 @ 3:25 AM

Episode 1 is free on Amazon Instant Video.
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Posted Mar 5, 2013 @ 12:14 PM

So we have a chance to get the additional seasons they were talking about in some of the articles I read last week.

With 6 million moving up to 8.3 million with the encore it should get a renewal pretty soon

I wouldn't be surprised if Vikings gets renewed soon since those are great numbers for a cable show but a number of shows have started out great only to plummett in the ratings the rest of the season and end up being cancelled. I'd say we won't know for sure until at least a few more weeks.

the only part I'm wary of is the potential "love triangle" between her, Ragnar and Rollo

There's no reason to be wary. Love triangles are not one sided and Lagertha clearly has no interest in Rollo.
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Posted Mar 5, 2013 @ 12:28 PM

How many episodes total for this season?


Nine I think.

Well, I hope viewers will stick around. I understand the action picks up with the second episode and things get really going.
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Posted Mar 5, 2013 @ 12:40 PM

Yeah, there are nine episodes this season so we have eight more left.
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Posted Mar 5, 2013 @ 7:31 PM

Spoiler tv review of the show
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Posted Mar 7, 2013 @ 5:01 PM

I am liking the show so far. The character that intrigues me the most right now is actually Lagertha. She seems totally awesome and kick-ass in every respect and I look forward to seeing her be a shield-maiden again.

Ragnar is kind of a smug ass, but I agree, there's something slightly endearing about it. Maybe because he's trying to literally expand his Viking horizons, but I'm not annoyed with him yet. We'll see what happens when they actually strike out for England.

I hadn't realized until I googled that some of the characters (Ragnar, Lagertha, etc) are actually based on historical figures.
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Posted Mar 10, 2013 @ 1:07 PM

Interesting blog

Looking at the picture of the long boat - what a beautiful ship.
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Posted Mar 10, 2013 @ 9:47 PM

Woah shit just got real!

I love LOVE Lagertha. She's just such a badass and I applaud that she didn't just let Ragnar walk all over her like he tried to. She's strong and independent and its very interesting to watch

Rollo is actually the worst. I didn't mind him the first episode but he did a complete 180 this episode. While Vikings are barbaric in nature and frankly, I should have been expecting the rape; it just really disgusted me and I would have been grateful if one of the monks beat the shit out of him.

Ragnar is still very arrogant but as some people already discussed, I find him somewhat endearing. I don't think he has bad intentions and I can't wait to see more of his conquests.

What is the point of the Earl though? Why is he so against exploring the west? Is it because he's worried Ragnar might overthrow him? He said something about the flames predicting the future and then completely freaked out so I'm wondering if Ragnar is tied to that.

Edited by waterlilies, Mar 10, 2013 @ 9:48 PM.

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Posted Mar 10, 2013 @ 11:10 PM

Really good, tense, and well-put together episode. Although the scene where they're spitting and blowing their noses into the water bucket that they're all using skeeved me out big-time. I understand it was till about 1100 years later when people started paying attention to germs but still, that was disgusting.

Rollo is a piece of garbage.

I like Lagertha too, as well as Floki.
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Posted Mar 10, 2013 @ 11:22 PM

I see Ragnar and Lagertha's marriage is a bit Klingon-ish (or, a modern example: Michael and Fiona from Burn Notice.) That whole fight/kissing scene was only topped by the son of all people telling them to break it up. I kind of loved it.

It's safe to say Rollo is bad news. Ragnar better keep an eye on him. Although, it he tries to do to Lagertha, like what he did to that girl, I expect it will end differently. By that I mean, Lagertha will probably cut his dick off.

I guess that's one way to test your employees. Offer them a night with your wife. If they accept, they're fired. The Earl and his wife are one "interesting" couple.

I do like how this show makes me feel conflicted. Like, when they first hear the seagulls/see land, I was all "Yay!", but then it hit me, all "Wait... now, they're going to massacre those poor priests!" And now I'm sad for the priests, but glad for Ragnar, that he ended up being right. It's not an easy thing to do, but they're pulling it off so far.
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Posted Mar 11, 2013 @ 12:25 AM

Although the scene where they're spitting and blowing their noses into the water bucket that they're all using skeeved me out big-time.


I remember a scene like that in The 13th Warrior - it was gross there too.

Normally I would be uncomfortable with a man and woman fighting like that with each other but since LaGertha is Ragnar's equal I kind of liked their little love spat - it was like a lion tussling with a lioness.

Rollo is a pig.
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Posted Mar 11, 2013 @ 12:33 AM

She seems totally awesome and kick-ass in every respect and I look forward to seeing her be a shield-maiden again.


Apparently Katheryn Winnick pretty bad ass in real life as well. I was listening to her on a The Lisa Ann Walter's radio show in LA promoting Vikings, and she has a 3rd degree black belt in Tae Kwon Do 2nd black belt in karate, and has her body guard license.

Rollo is actually the worst. I didn't mind him the first episode but he did a complete 180 this episode. While Vikings are barbaric in nature and frankly, I should have been expecting the rape; it just really disgusted me and I would have been grateful if one of the monks beat the shit out of him.


They have probably made Rollo to be seen as the worst type of Viking to make Ragnar a more sympathetic lead. That why Ragnar isn't seen killing unarmed monks, and saving the priest guy.

History is painting Ragnar as a visionary, not a conqueror who raped and pillage his way through Europe.

I don't think American audiences would like the show if Ragnar was the stereotypical Viking.
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Posted Mar 11, 2013 @ 2:52 AM

I think the axe blow to Scarface's head probably scrambled the brains underneath. No way do you ever take up your bosses' offer to sleep with his wife. How do you say dumbass in Norse?

If there are no lands to the West, didn't the presence of Aethelstan on a language immersion holiday in Vikingland alert them to something? (And BTW, how did he cross open sea to get there?)

No, beacuse, repeat after me:

THERE ARE NO LANDS TO THE WEST!

Do you hear me, NO LANDS!

I've been repeating that and giggling like an idiot all night.
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Posted Mar 11, 2013 @ 4:19 AM

The scene with the bucket is taken straight from the writings of Ahmad ibn Fadlan, who was an Arab explorer in the 10th century. He visited the Rus' Vikings who lived near the Volga River in Russia, and he was disgusted by their using the same water bucket, but by chronicling that, he confirmed that they placed importance on cleanliness, just not on changing the water. "The 13th Warrior" aka "Eaters of the Dead" in the Crichton work is based on his writings and Beowulf. The story is pretty factual until the Wendols show up, and then it's a reinterpretation of the Beowulf story.

As for Aethelstan, he may have encountered Vikings in the Volga region, or in Denmark, or on the coasts of France, Spain, and other continental European countries. From the mainland (either France or Spain) he could have easily traveled to England. The Vikings expanded as far east as the Caspian Sea, which borders Iran as well as other countries like Russia, Turkmenistan, etc.

I rolled my eyes when Rollo raped the slave girl. It was such an anvilicious way to telegraph that he's bad. Historical Ragnar was probably the same, but I'm still geeked enough by the show to ignore that.
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Posted Mar 11, 2013 @ 5:39 AM

THERE ARE NO LANDS TO THE WEST!

Do you hear me, NO LANDS!

This struck me as pretty ridiculous. There's no way these guys would be unaware of the existence of Great Britain at least, and have some idea of how to get there (go south, hug the coast heading west ...). I could buy that they have little notion of where it it was exactly or that you could short-cut dead west across the north sea, but the idea that anyone would claim Britain simply doesn't exist sounds unlikely. There was some sort of commerce in this general area since Roman times, even before.

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Posted Mar 11, 2013 @ 7:20 AM

Oh the Earl knows that there are lands to the west, but for some reason he doesn't want them to go there. Beats me as to why though.

I liked Ragnar this episode. One thing that cheered my feminist heart - the man does laundry.
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Posted Mar 11, 2013 @ 7:21 AM

They have probably made Rollo to be seen as the worst type of Viking to make Ragnar a more sympathetic lead. That why Ragnar isn't seen killing unarmed monks, and saving the priest guy.

History is painting Ragnar as a visionary, not a conqueror who raped and pillage his way through Europe.


Yes, I noticed that too. Rollo hits on his wife, and then rapes a slave (was he the one who pointed out that they didn't find any women in the monastery? Because I might have rolled my eyes at that one - dude, give the Viking viagra a rest); he and all the other Vikings absolutely massacre those poor monks, but Ragnar actually saves one monk's life. And why was Rollo that obsessed with killing him? When he said the boat was too heavy, I thought they just didn't want to bring any slaves, but then there were other monks being dragged along.

And it's Floki, not Ragnar who blackmails the blacksmith into making an anchor, something that eventually gets him killed. I hate Floki now. To be fair, it was burning all those scrolls which tipped me over the edge.

And the Earl is a greedy murderous asshole.

So, basically, Ragnar and Lagertha and the kids, and now Athelstan (cute monk) are the only relatable/likeable characters in the show? I guess I can live with that, though if there's more sexual violence coming up, I dunno. Usually rape in a story is what makes me switch off. Even when it's historically accurate, it's not historically accurate enough. Vikings raped men too - the fact that this is never shown makes me suspect that rape's inclusion in a storyline is there for other reasons than historical verisimilitude.

13th Warrior (one of my favourite movies of all time!) was an entire movie about Vikings without any rape, though, in all fairness, the Vikings were charged with defeating "monsters" rather than doing much actual viking.

And making Rollo into a rapist as a shortcut to showing he's a creep is kind of lazy.

Still, I'm curious about the story now, and I want to know what happens to Athelstan.
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Posted Mar 11, 2013 @ 9:25 AM

Vikings raped men too - the fact that this is never shown makes me suspect that rape's inclusion in a storyline is there for other reasons than historical verisimilitude.


I actually expected this to happen with the Monks. Not all of them but I didn't think the lack of women would stop some of the Vikings.

I'm sure Ragnar was as big a killer and rapist as the rest of them but they want to make at least some of the characters relatable. It's pretty common for Hollywood. In The Patriot, Mel Gibson played a plantation owner who didn't own any slaves.

As for why the Earl is so obsessed with not believing there's anything in the West, I suppose he was like a lot of people in history that way. Once Ragnar started challenging him though, I think the Earl feared losing power more than anything. But it looks like the Earl badly underestimated Ragnar and overestimated his belief that there were no lands in the West.
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Posted Mar 11, 2013 @ 9:42 AM

Vikings raped men too - the fact that this is never shown makes me suspect that rape's inclusion in a storyline is there for other reasons than historical verisimilitude.



I actually expected this to happen with the Monks. Not all of them but I didn't think the lack of women would stop some of the Vikings.

I figured that the Vikings raping the monks would have pushed this show into the 11 pm airing. It would have weirded out the ratings guys and they would have wanted it cut. Men are funny like that. :p

All of that hair is starting to make most of the guys blend to me.
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Posted Mar 11, 2013 @ 11:01 AM

I enjoy this show, though I know they're cheating historically. It didn't bother me until Ragnar failed to kill even a single monk and his brother raped the slave. That's just lazy ass writing.
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Posted Mar 11, 2013 @ 12:58 PM

Ragnar should have been killing monks too, I agree with that. I get not wanting to show him raping but he needs to be shown killing. Shows like The Sopranos have shown us that audiences have no problem getting behind murderers.

Rollo is deplorable but he's a realistic portrayel of a Viking.

Edited by benteen, Mar 11, 2013 @ 12:59 PM.

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Posted Mar 11, 2013 @ 1:02 PM

Oh the Earl knows that there are lands to the west, but for some reason he doesn't want them to go there. Beats me as to why though.

I don't know. It was a common belief that there were no lands to the west.

I liked Ragnar this episode. One thing that cheered my feminist heart - the man does laundry.

And he did it with a smile on his face! Then again, I don't want the trying man near the laundry.

Rollo hits on his wife, and then rapes a slave (was he the one who pointed out that they didn't find any women in the monastery? Because I might have rolled my eyes at that one - dude, give the Viking viagra a rest)

Yes, Rollo was the one who pointed out the lack of women in the monestery. I did roll my eyes.

And it's Floki, not Ragnar who blackmails the blacksmith into making an anchor, something that eventually gets him killed. I hate Floki now. To be fair, it was burning all those scrolls which tipped me over the edge.

So... Ragnar is Rome? You know, "All roads lead to...." No? Sorry, bad joke. I can understand Floki burning the scrolls. He'd never seen paper before, so how was he supposed to know how it would react?
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Posted Mar 11, 2013 @ 1:05 PM

Ragnar should have been killing monks too, I agree with that. I get not wanting to show him raping but he needs to be shown killing. Shows like The Sopranos have shown us that audiences have no problem getting behind murderers.

I thought about this during the week (yes, I will be watching Ep. 3 tonight -- thanks DirecTv) and thought it really was a cop-out. Also, he should have popped his wife a good one as well, but again, TPTB think we lemmings can't handle it.

Edited by DashDixon, Mar 11, 2013 @ 1:06 PM.

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