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Copper: New York's Finest in 1864


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Posted Jun 22, 2012 @ 11:29 AM

I know this show doesn't start until August but I'm very excited about it; it's made by the same people who made "Homicide: Life on the Street." and it will air on BBC America.

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Posted Jun 22, 2012 @ 11:37 AM

I had watched a promo for this and was bummed that I probably wouldn't get to watch it living in the U.S. I was happy to hear that it would air on BBC America so now I can watch it!
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Posted Jun 22, 2012 @ 12:59 PM

This looks really good! And, of course, my crappy cable company doesn't carry BBCAmerica. :(
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Posted Jun 22, 2012 @ 3:13 PM

I may have to watch this...while the underlying arc story sounds pretty by-the-numbers (what happened to the main character's wife and daughter?) the setting sounds interesting enough to transcend that. The behind-the-scenes pedigree, plus Franka Potente, is the cherry on top.
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Posted Jun 22, 2012 @ 3:47 PM

I was on the fence about whether or not to cancel the part of my cable package that carries BBCAmerica but my having seen the promo for Copper tipped the balance in favor of my keeping it.

I am surprised to read that this will be BBCAmerica's first original series, I thought Merlin was an original series. BTW if anyone else is curious, according to wikipedia there will be ten episodes this season.

Edited by bulldawgtownie, Jun 22, 2012 @ 3:57 PM.

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Posted Jun 22, 2012 @ 4:06 PM

Showcase picked up this one for its fall lineup. I didn't see a release date on the website but I doubt Showcase considers August 'fall'. I guess it'll debut some time in September here in Canada.
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Posted Jun 24, 2012 @ 5:32 PM

I am surprised to read that this will be BBCAmerica's first original series, I thought Merlin was an original series. BTW if anyone else is curious, according to wikipedia there will be ten episodes this season.


Merlin is on the BBC; but it wasn't made by BBCAmerica as Copper will be. Merlin had previously been on SyFy.
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Posted Aug 9, 2012 @ 2:44 AM

I just saw a promo for this (in a movie theater of all places - this is the second time I've seen a promo for a cable tv show during movie previews, the first being for Bunheads on ABC Family) and it looks pretty interesting. On a somewhat shallow note, normally it's American shows/movies that are set in Europe so the fact that this is a BBC show set in New York could be really interesting. Of course, it helps that it's a period piece but still.

Can't wait to check this out next week!
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Posted Aug 9, 2012 @ 4:52 PM

irishmaple, according to the Showcase website, Copper will premiere on Sunday, August 26th. It didn't give a time though.
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Posted Aug 9, 2012 @ 5:07 PM

FYI - it starts next week on BBC America!

On a related note, I've never understood why they stagger when the same episode airs in different countries.

Edited by ElectricBoogalo, Aug 9, 2012 @ 5:08 PM.

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Posted Aug 10, 2012 @ 12:43 AM

I watched the 30 minute special Behind the Badge, which gives a behind the scenes look and interviews with the actors and creators. It's airing again throughout the week leading up to the premiere on BBC America. I am really looking forward to seeing the show.
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Posted Aug 10, 2012 @ 9:48 AM

I have this show on my calendar. It looks promising.
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Posted Aug 10, 2012 @ 12:02 PM

I saw some posters for it at the train station and then looked up the trailer. I agree that the setting (as well as the era) makes this show very intriguing and I'm looking forward to watching it.
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Posted Aug 10, 2012 @ 12:58 PM

I watched the 30 minute special Behind the Badge, which gives a behind the scenes look and interviews with the actors and creators. It's airing again throughout the week leading up to the premiere on BBC America. I am really looking forward to seeing the show.


If you have BBC America "on demand" it's there; I watched it on Monday, I can't wait! I hope it's good and not "Gangs of New York 2.0."
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Posted Aug 10, 2012 @ 11:08 PM

I watched the 30 minute special Behind the Badge, which gives a behind the scenes look and interviews with the actors and creators. It's airing again throughout the week leading up to the premiere on BBC America

I watched the first ten minutes of it last week and recommend it to everyone. I also hope they don't turn the black character into the "incredibly noble and moral black man who suffers a bunch of indignities in silence." That's a precusor to turning him into the "magical negro"

Edited by bulldawgtownie, Aug 10, 2012 @ 11:12 PM.

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Posted Aug 16, 2012 @ 9:40 AM

Copper premieres on BBCAmerica this Sunday at 10pm est.
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Posted Aug 19, 2012 @ 10:17 PM

Well, everything looks appropriately filthy. Matches the politics, I guess. At least 'Corky' had the grace to feel bad for beating the piss out of the patsy.
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Posted Aug 19, 2012 @ 10:20 PM

I have to agree with some of the reviews I've read. The setting and production values are impressive but the performances/characters are lifeless.

I'll watch next week's episode though.

Edited by benteen, Aug 20, 2012 @ 9:16 AM.

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Posted Aug 19, 2012 @ 10:26 PM

I have to agree with some of the reviews I read. The setting and production values are impressive but the performances/characters are lifeless.

I'll watch next week's episode though.

Agreed. I wouldn't necessarily say lifeless, but definitely thin. I'll give it a few episodes to see how/if it develops.
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Posted Aug 19, 2012 @ 11:23 PM

Four thoughts:

Tessa Thompson's acting hasn't improved much since "Veronica Mars". Pity for us.

Franka Potente's enormous dragon tattoo was terribly distracting. And not particularly appropriate for the time period.

The history nerd in me will keep watching this show because it's like "The Alienist" and "Gangs of New York" had a baby that wishes it were really the spawn of "Deadwood" and "The Wire". I'm along for the ride...
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Posted Aug 19, 2012 @ 11:41 PM

Franka Potente's enormous dragon tattoo was terribly distracting. And not particularly appropriate for the time period.

The history nerd in me will keep watching this show because it's like "The Alienist" and "Gangs of New York" had a baby that wishes it were really the spawn of "Deadwood" and "The Wire". I'm along for the ride...

I rewound and paused several times during the opening scene when Corcoran was peeking through the slats, and I'm almost certain I could see the contact lens on his left eye. I'm pretty sure that wasn't appropriate for the time period, either. But I'll keep watching, too, for the same reasons you gave.
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Posted Aug 19, 2012 @ 11:53 PM

Franka Potente's enormous dragon tattoo was terribly distracting. And not particularly appropriate for the time period.



The character is European yes? So I don't find it unbelievable that she might have gotten a tattoo before she came to America. She seems to be a pretty rough and tumble character.

I can't really blame the producers or the actors for us being able to contact lenses since it is on HDTV :).
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Posted Aug 20, 2012 @ 12:06 AM

They certainly through a lot of mystery at us all at once, didn't they?
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Posted Aug 20, 2012 @ 12:12 AM

Franka Potente's enormous dragon tattoo was terribly distracting. And not particularly appropriate for the time period.


Both whores had tattoos, didn't they? As well as Corky's friend Francis.

Wow, dark. A little levity would not be a bad thing. But I'll keep watching. It's different from anything else.
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Posted Aug 20, 2012 @ 1:02 AM

I really liked it. Nice evocative production (loved the music), and some interesting characters and mysteries. I'm sure the characters will be fleshed out over the course of the season.
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Posted Aug 20, 2012 @ 2:04 AM

The history nerd in me will keep watching this show because it's like "The Alienist" and "Gangs of New York" had a baby that wishes it were really the spawn of "Deadwood" and "The Wire". I'm along for the ride...


All I kept thinking about was "The Alienist" and "Deadwood". Despite my forever jones for Timothy Olyphant I never could get into "Deadwood". I also couldn't get into "The Wire" but I count "The Alienist" as one of my favorite books ever. I have "Gangs of New York" on DVD and have yet to watch it.

The actor who plays the doctor who did the autopsy on Kate was interviewed along with the two leads on NY1's NY Times Sunday Arts section. The actor didn't believe that there had been an African-American doctor in Five Points after the riots that were referenced in the show but there was. He's based his character on that man and his life.

I will keep watching this. It kept my attention from beginning to end something that's a rarity these days.
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Posted Aug 20, 2012 @ 2:31 AM

Well, everything looks appropriately filthy.

Ha, I thought the same thing. The other thing I noticed was how dark many of the scenes are. While I appreciate historical accuracy with the lighting and all, I would be willing to overlook a little bit of inaccuracy if it meant that I could clearly see who was in some of those darker scenes. It's mostly an issue with the male characters since the only female characters are little girl, rich English wife, Countess in charge of the fancy brothel, and other prostitutes (who thankfully have different hair colors). The men, on the other hand, are sometimes hard to tell apart right away since they dress very similarly and many of the locations (alleys, indoors, etc) are dark.

Tessa Thompson's acting hasn't improved much since "Veronica Mars". Pity for us.

Although I actively route for VM alumni to do well, but I did not have high hopes for Tessa Thompson. I set the bar so low she could step over it (TM Logan Echolls) and she still managed to disappoint me. Hopefully her role won't be very big on this show. I'd be fine if they kept her as a tertiary character who we only see every once in a while when Corcoran barges into the doctor's house late at night.

The setting and production values are impressive

ITA - the sets, costumes, etc all looked very realistic. I almost always give new shows a few episodes to find their rhythm so I'll tune in for a few more weeks (at least until the fall season starts).
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Posted Aug 20, 2012 @ 8:57 AM

I liked it and I wasn't surprised that the characters weren't fleshed out that much; that was one of the reasons I really liked "The Wire" because it moved slowly, like a novel.

I wished some of the scenes were lighter too, it was hard to see.

Don't have HDTV so I couldn't see the contact lenses.

I thought it was really interesting seeing NYC at this time; and people think shit is bad now! Damn, most of us wouldn't have made it through that, NYC was a lot more crowded because everybody was crammed into the same space, the subways didn't exist yet.
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Posted Aug 20, 2012 @ 9:22 AM

The stink must have been awful too although I suppose the people of that era were used to it and it didn't bother them as much. Not to mention it was the norm to wear heavy clothing even during the hot summer years.

Wow, dark. A little levity would not be a bad thing. But I'll keep watching. It's different from anything else.


Definitely. The whole child prostitute storyline is really skeezing me out and it doesn't look like it's going away any time soon. I do like the way the cops go about roughing up suspects though.

Yeah, I forget with shows set in the past that the lighting is not going to be good. I remember that in Crouching Tiger and John Adams. I agree that I don't mind a little dramatic license being taken there.

I'm trying to pin down an exact date for the show. It's 1863 and the Civil War is still going on. They're mentioning McClellen is going to run for President against Lincoln but it has to be at least a year for the election of 1864. I believe it was in 1863 that a notorious draft riot took place in NYC.

Edited by benteen, Aug 20, 2012 @ 9:22 AM.

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Posted Aug 20, 2012 @ 9:39 AM

Corcoran sure likes eggs. But I was thinking what else could you carry around for a snack at that time--biscuits? apples?
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