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[fionab]

Sorry for the delay. Literally fell asleep in the last 10 minutes because... WHAT a snoozefest. You know a show is bad if the muppets can't save it.

[Macthekat]

WHAT a snoozefest.

Agreed! I didn't even wait around for the RC. Plus, Joe was a drip, too. He seemed like a nice enough guy, but it was obvious they didn't click, and he couldn't answer Emily's questions about his future. Glad she didn't just think it was fantastic he said he'd be wherever she wanted him to be (paraphrased). I thought he was rude the way he bolted out of the dinner once she broke down and told him he wasn't getting the rose. At least be polite, dude.

[Vexer]

It was bad wasn't it? Emily is a self centered snot with horrible taste in clothes. Her RC gown looked like something from Miss America circa 1987 and that one she wore on the one on one date with the poor schlub she sent home? Just no. The dates were awful (and I love me some Muppets) and Emily is so boring. I cannot believe she kept Kalon and Stevie (what adult actually goes by Stevie?!?) and Alessandro is just mega creepy - very brooding Latin jerkoff. I had no idea who the one guy was she sent home but was surprised at cute biology teacher.

Ryan? A 7 page letter? When you have a rose? And she had to read it aloud TO you? Really? No, really? He dropped very far in my esteem after that.

Tony seems unstable. So many others are non-entities. I still kinda like the dad of the 12 year old

[MsSweatpants]

The dad of the twelve-year-old seems to think he has some kind of special "dibs" on Emily, because they have the single parent thing in common. I don't think that's going to help him any. I get the impression Emily will want her new hubby to dote on her daughter, not have Ricki compete with a stepbrother.

Much as I dislike Kalon, he was kinda right--- Single Dad has sole custody, and his son is with a grandparent while he's on a reality dating show. He made it sound like some noble cause -- dude, you're not shipping off to Iraq! He kept asking Kalon to clarify, only to cut him off with a "Check it!"

[MaxMom]

Don't hate me but I am kind of loving Emily as the Bachelorette. I didn't expect to. She seems like she is doing this on her own terms and calling some shots. Arie FTW!

[isotonerz]

You know a show is bad if the muppets can't save it.

True. Emily was supposed to be "dancing"? Really? That was so lame.

he bolted out of the dinner once she broke down and told him he wasn't getting the rose.

He should have said "Okay", shrugged, and asked for a doggie bag.

Edited by isotonerz, May 21, 2012 @ 11:11 PM.

[Wibnix]

I didn't watch the whole thing, but that one-on-one sucked. What was it, a job interview? "Where do you see yourself in five years" is a total job interview question. Is she going to snivel and cry every time she lets one of these losers go?

I hate Kalon on general principal and I am so over these single dads who leave their kids to "find love". I call bullshit. They are looking to be on TV and be famous.

Emily was a snooze, as is Rickie, who didn't even sing along with the muppets, much less look happy about being there. Leave the kid out of it. Jason with his frigging kid has ruined the franchise because now everyone has their token kid and are single moms and dads, which I guess is supposed to make them better or something.

Edited by Wibnix, May 21, 2012 @ 11:10 PM.

[Maddingcrowd]

I actually kind of like Kalon and just think no matter what he does, the other guys won't like him. I'm sure it was not his choice to come in on the helicopter, he is just getting the rich guy edit. And he is good looking and mature for 26. I thought Jef was kind of cool last week, but this time around he seems in a stupor or something.

I was quite amazed that Emily got rid of cute biology teacher but kept really unattractive Alessandro and the Steve Carroll looking one (blanking on names). I'm surprised she kept the head injury guy (I think he is cute) because the way she patted him on the shoulder during the Muppet thing, it seemed like she was done with him.

Funniest part was watching Emily try to dance with the Muppets. She barely moved. Well, I like some of the guys (though Ryan was my favorite up until the 7 page letter), but agree Emily is beyond boring.

[Ketzel]

As a kind of nerdy/hippy girl in my youth, I was never much of a guy magnet and it's kind of interesting watching Emily work her wiles on these guys. Of course, she ticks all the boxes: nice body with big boobs, long blonde hair, big blue eyes, gleaming white teeth, and I think at least half of these guys would believe she was out of their league in normal circumstances. But all it takes is a smile, a coy "You make me nervous, no, you really do" and the man immediately believes she sees how fabulous he really is, and is a bit intimidated by him. Naturally he both appreciates her excellent taste and is anxious to reassure her that he thinks she's fabulous too. Wow.

I felt sorry for the poor guy she sent home after she did her little number on him. He was completely dazzled by the whole experience and it was obvious he was a complete sitting duck when she rejected him.

[reggiejax]

Much as I dislike Kalon, he was kinda right--- Single Dad has sole custody, and his son is with a grandparent while he's on a reality dating show. He made it sound like some noble cause -- dude, you're not shipping off to Iraq! He kept asking Kalon to clarify, only to cut him off with a "Check it!"

I know he is supposed to be the "villain" this season, but I too find myself kind of liking Kalon. And perhaps he could have phrased it better, but he was essentially correct in saying that the single dad was putting fatherhood on hold for The Bachelor. Of course you don't really ever put parenthood on hold, even if you wanted to, but the fact is, this guy chose to leave his son for however long this takes, all to compete with 24 other guys for a woman he saw on television. And while I guess it is sweet that his son told him to go out and do something for himself, the fact is, he could find a lot of women to date without having to go on television, or leave his son for an extended period of time. So yeah, he did put fatherhood on hold. Kalon may be heir to the Massengil fortune (tm HIMYM), but that doesn't mean he can't make a valid point.

Edited by reggiejax, May 21, 2012 @ 11:38 PM.

[superpole2000]

Man, those boobs are really fake.

[Phlange]

I agree re watching her work her wiles on these guys. She knows exactly what she is doing. It is like watching Courtney work Ben last season but Emily just has a different style. Same basic premise though.

And I am sorry, I know guys eat this shit up, but on the date with Ryan when she said she was ready to give up control and let someone else be in charge I nearly barfed. I don't know if I am more disgusted that she said it or that what she said is truly what most guys want to hear. It is like watching the Millionaire Matchmaker, I am never sure if I am really mad that Patti says those things or mad because they are true.

[Kali12]

Don't hate me but I am kind of loving Emily as the Bachelorette. I didn't expect to. She seems like she is doing this on her own terms and calling some shots. Arie FTW!

I'm afraid to say it, but I agree! (Except about Arie, I have no idea who any of these guys are other than Kalon and Chris).

I like that it seems Emily told them, "I'll do it if this and this and this and this.." Starting with being in Charlotte and "taking them home" (I'll bet her home is nicer than most of theirs, which may have an interesting effect).

ITA about watching her "work her wiles" and the guys fall all over themselves while she's so unsurprised. Kind of makes you want to try life as a platinum blonde (I know she is pretty and has a good figure and all, but I really think a lot of it is the hair and "I'm such a hot Southern girl" confidence". I'm not sure she'd be getting this response as a brunette).

All that, however, doesn't mean Emily can carry TWO HOURS. She is so dull. So I have to say I was so happy to see the Muppets. Love them! More Kermit and Miss Piggy (and the old guys--I've missed them!) Less Emily and...whoever they are!

[MaryShelley]

I actually think Kalon is pretty douch-y, especially the way he says things like "Normally I can have any girl I want, so this is a huge readjustment for me."

I was also surprised that she sent home the cute biology teacher! The guys are not all that cute this season with the exception of a few like Alejandro and Arie.

I think it is weird that if she's looking for a serious future husband with which to have lots of babies, she's so into Jef. He's got his charms, but I don't see him unloading the Pampers from the minivan just yet.

[scatteroflight]

More Kermit and Miss Piggy (and the old guys--I've missed them!) Less Emily and...whoever they are!

The old guys, Waldorf and Statler, should do colour commentary during the RC. It would definitely make the show more fun!

[Refresh]

Choosy Moms Choose Jef!

I find Jef sort of intriguing for some reason, but that conversation he and Emily had was inane.
I have serious Muppet love so that made the episode worthwhile. Also. Piggy's talk show host dress was Michael Costello's winning dress design from Project Runway. So that was cool.

Edited by Refresh, May 22, 2012 @ 12:42 AM.

[lleykian54]

I was also surprised that she sent home the cute biology teacher!

I wasn't. Dude gave me serious douche-bag vibes and he did very little to dispel that in his exit. Plus I would have gotten rid of him in the first RC just for that cheesy line about being a Biology teacher but being there to have Chemistry with her. I so hope his high school students torture him.

I think it is weird that if she's looking for a serious future husband with which to have lots of babies, she's so into Jef.

Honestly, I just think she likes him so much because he provides something of a challenge. There's a slight distance he seems to put up with her and I actually think that's part of his strategy and boy is it working.

It was amusing watching her frustration that he apparently wasn't falling all over her in the group date like most of the other guys. I also loved his calling her out on the whole, "I was giving you this look", by telling her that she seemed to be giving a lot of the other guys the look.

So I give Jef credit, he's playing his game very well. Don't seem too eager and into her, a woman of Emily's ego, so used to men falling all over her...of course he'll stand out to her because of that. And all he had to do was not play into her wiles a little, then give just a little when he was alone with her and he got the rose. I thought it was hilarious when he got it, especially seeing the reactions from the other guys.

Edited by lleykian54, May 22, 2012 @ 12:44 AM.

[Antareus]

Emily is starting to win me over. It's like watching Girls Next Door - just a happy, upbeat, beautiful person with no problems. Of course it's all fake, but it makes me actually feel happy too. Just like watching a marathon of GND used to. Also, I love how Emily says something she clearly thinks is "sassy" (like when she was questioning the first date guy about chasing women) and she gets excited about it like she's thinking, "look how sassy I am being right now! so sassy!" I thought it was great that she did seem to be asking some direct lifestyle questions as well.

Also, Miss Piggy was wearing her Project Runway dress! LOVE IT! (You know this is when you watch too much TV haha).

[Kali12]

Miss Piggy wearing the Project Runway dress? You guys are amazing! (Finding ways to make this show interesting. Including this: "The old guys, Waldorf and Statler, should do colour commentary during the RC. It would definitely make the show more fun!" Because that--with serious snark--would be "amazing"!)

re: Emily working it. Watching her work the RC, she is, without doubt imo, the flirtiest B-ette ever. I had to adjust the volume because she immediately lowered to her kittenish voice, beguilingly asked each one if they'd accept the rose with just the right head tilt and provocative slight smile...she knows -exactly- what she's doing (including finding different ways to tell Each. Guy. that she's taken "special" notice of him).

Impressive!

[GlamSnooky]

Much as I dislike Kalon, he was kinda right--- Single Dad has sole custody, and his son is with a grandparent while he's on a reality dating show. He made it sound like some noble cause -- dude, you're not shipping off to Iraq! He kept asking Kalon to clarify, only to cut him off with a "Check it!"

Yeah, Single Dad came off like a total douche, IMO. As a mom myself, I get sick of this attitude that parenting bestows some kind of halo effect, where you can't even talk about it without "insulting" a parent. Because Kalon IS right -- he put his day-to-day parenting on hold. Of course he didn't give up his son permanently, or his status as a parent. But he's still dating on a TV show. And that incensed "Check it!" crap deserved to be checked!

Piggy's talk show host dress was Michael Costello's winning dress design from Project Runway. So that was cool.

I thought that was the dress! I adore Miss Piggy and her Kermie, but it all felt so forced. Because they know the B'ette is dull as dishwater, so they needed comic relief to move this plodding version along. Emily barely knew how to move--that was dancing?

I was just saying I liked Joe, and the next moment he was going home. He seemed like one to root for, but then...maybe not a fit for Emily if I liked him, since she's nothing like me! LOL. So far, not rooting for any of them.

Whoever said Emily came from money must be right if she's so familiar with the expensive Greenbriar Resort.

OMG, Jimmy Kimmel did a segment showing Emily's "nice to meet you" (hug) repetitiveness from the first ep. BWAH!! I had no idea she said it THAT often. Must have been 20 guys!

ETA: Forgot to mention... Anyone else notice Emily had a cheat sheet with her to sing Rainbow Connection with her daughter and Kermit? The song is not that hard to learn!

Edited by GlamSnooky, May 22, 2012 @ 2:45 AM.

[PetuniaP]

Don't hate me but I am kind of loving Emily as the Bachelorette. I didn't expect to. She seems like she is doing this on her own terms and calling some shots. Arie FTW!

I'm liking Emily as well. I like that she isn't wasting her time with these guys...she knows time is limited so when she has them, she's asking them the serious questions people should ask when considering a partner for life. She's not being blinded by chemistry like previous Bachelor/Bachelorettes, she's actually delving into why they are there and what kind of life they are looking for. But she's also taking chemistry into consideration...if she's not feeling it with you, goodbye! I do think her teeth look a bit too large for her mouth...I wonder if she just couldn't have had her real teeth whitened instead of getting veneers.

I also like that Kalon isn't the typical "villain". I don't personally find him that attractive but I can see that he's used to women fawning all over him and I think he enjoys that Emily doesn't. He seems thoughtful....not making any declarations of his willingness to love Ricky like his own until he actually develops some feelings for Emily. Chris was being a douche by the pool. He does think he has the inside track after receiving the first impression rose but many have fallen by the wayside after peaking early. He needs to watch it.

I'm not bothered by the guys that left their kids home to be on this show. Kids aren't fragile creatures that wither away because their parents are away for a few weeks. My parents did it and I turned out fine...I missed them but also liked the feeling of independence. Not that big of a deal.

Edited by PetuniaP, May 22, 2012 @ 6:04 AM.

[rivermet]

Definitely a bit slow but there were some interesting parts.

Jef is playing the disinterested card, which is driving Emily crazy. Not sure about him though as a possible husband. I mean why would she hook up with yet another successful guy with a business somewhere else when it's clear she wants the man she chooses to make his life in Charlotte?

In general, I think all the guys with kids think it's an advantage for them. And I'm kind of tired of hearing it. Kalon definitely is annoying sometimes but he said exactly what I was thinking to the Dad-guy. He said his child was thee most important thing in the world to him. But he left him to go on a TV show. Those two things contradict each other. I actually have no problem with someone choosing to do so but then you can't preach about how your child is your whole world etc.

Eh the Muppets were okay. Never been a huge fan. I liked the cookie part of the date but later that long letter totally turned me off.

[Madmarsha]

It's SO going to be Arie. But do Formula 1 guys ever live in Charlotte? Maybe he can cross over.

[ClaireO]

She's not being blinded by chemistry like previous Bachelor/Bachelorettes, she's actually delving into why they are there and what kind of life they are looking for. But she's also taking chemistry into consideration...if she's not feeling it with you, goodbye!

That's what I liked about chemistry-free Joe's exit. "You're not feeling it? No need to linger!" If she's done, he's done. Life goes on, and the next adventure isn't here.

I was adamant about not watching this season, but then I didn't watch Ben's season and I sort of missed the show. Emily isn't as boring as I feared she'd be, but she really does repeat the same lines over and over and over again with these guys. They have to be laughing as they see this - if they're watching.

I'm not bothered by the guys that left their kids home to be on this show. Kids aren't fragile creatures that wither away because their parents are away for a few weeks. ... Not that big of a deal.

ITA. The precious snowflake mentality of "I can never leave my kid!" bugs. And the guy (still learning names) did say that his kid told him to get out. Probably because the guy was hovering too much, which is what passes for standard parenting these days. But I digress.

There were pre-show photos of Ryan and Emily that made this date look so romantic! And it was one of the least romantic or even interesting dates ever. That just shows the power of the publicity and editing machine.

[JudyObscure]

This show desperately needs a Bentley.

These guys remind me of a commercial that ran a few years ago for some kind of anti-diarrhea medicine. The man is at the Hefner Mansion, sitting in the fabled grotto with a couple of Playmates, when he suddenly has to go to the restroom. The part that always cracked me up came just before he had to run off; he tells the girls he is "in paper," and they say, "Paper! How fascinating!" Emily is faking interest in most of these boring guys and they're too bedazzled to see it. I'm not a huge Emily fan but I think she's way out of most of their leagues.

I'm from West Virginia and The Greenbriar is where people go for really special occasions, like honeymoons or anniversaries. (My parents sat nest to Sam Elliot and Katherine Ross at dinner once!) The idea of taking the kids for family vacations every year sounds like, "Let's take the kids to Paris." I think we can forget about calling Emily a gold digger because, obviously, she already comes with the gold.

Poor Kalon can't say anything right now that Ugly Stevie and World's Greatest Dad are against him. He may be this season's Vienna, with the other guys all carrying tales about him and only making themselves look bad.

[torreador]

And I am sorry, I know guys eat this shit up, but on the date with Ryan when she said she was ready to give up control and let someone else be in charge I nearly barfed.

Didn't she add something like how she'd "still really be in control but let the guy think he was"? Doesn't that just summarize Emily?

And that bit at the beginning when she was with the other soccer moms..... anyone else think that the East Indian looking lady who seemed very, very uncomfortable and didn't say a word was actually someone's nanny who was told to sit there to add diversity?

eta:
Re Pompadour Jef: 1) I read that he had long hair and cut after he had been cast. 2) Does anyone else think he looks like Franke Avalon from the beach movies?

Edited by torreador, May 22, 2012 @ 8:03 AM.

[welsch515]

I was quite amazed that Emily got rid of cute biology teacher but kept really unattractive Alessandro and the Steve Carroll looking one (blanking on names).

Who is the Steve Carell look-alike? I've seen a couple of people on here say one of the guys looks like him, but I don't think it was the same guy haha.

[dramawitch]

I totally think Emily is vapid and trying very hard to show what a great mom she is but I'm not buying it. I think it's for the cameras. Not that she doesn't love her daughter (and she may be a great mom) but it feels fake for me. I also like Kalon because he called the Dad out. I don't think it's that big of a deal to leave the kids (my mom did for school every summer when I was a teen) BUT Dad was going on and on about the connection because of being a single parent. It seems a little put on if you loooooove your kid so much but are able to leave with, seemingly, no qualms. She did the same thing though when she was competing. I actually really liked Jef too, moreso than last week.

[Coco79]

I really liked Arie. Even though he wasn't on any of the dates this week, Emily sought him out first during the RC, correct?

I think that Stevie is worse than Kalon. Honestly, Kalon wasn't as bad as the guys thought he was. I felt that Stevie was so immature with his "I don't like you" comment to Kalon.

Man, Joe really left in a huff. He didn't even give Emily a good-bye hug, or wish her the best. He was that mad. But, I was even a little thrown aback when Emily started off with "Where do you see yourself in five years?" and she asked him to clarify, "What does that mean?" It was obvious that they had no chemistry, though.

Wow, the Greenbrier resort was something else.

Emily really likes dates when they're cooking or baking in her own home, apparently. She and Brad made mac and cheese, and now she had Ryan baking cookies.

I was cringing when Emily and Ryan were dancing on that little dance floor outside of the restaurant -- with the crowds taking videos of them. Also, a red carpet everywhere Emily went? The restaurant? The plane to WV?

[sap2006]

I think Emily chooses Chris Harrison. He's available now. I watched this episode by mistake last night. It won't happen again.