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[TWoP Pembleton]

THE FINALISTS MUST EXECUTE THEIR CHARITY EVENT BEFORE DONALD TRUMP CROWNS THIS SEASON'S WINNER IN THE LIVE FINALE Live from New York City, it's The Celebrity Apprentice season finale. The finalists scramble to finish in time for their celebrity charity event, and for the first time ever, the two finalists must work together to make sure their variety show goes off without a hitch. With 10 Celebrities performing, it's the biggest finale event to date. In the end, Donald Trump makes his final decision, live - who will be fired, and who will become The Celebrity Apprentice.

[Yorkville]

Arsenio for the win. I can't believe care!

[bandita]

Okay,, I am going to say it. Rewatch that embrace Arsenio gave Clay after Arsenio was deemed winner. It sure looks like they might have something going on.

Arsenio's son from the ex manager sounds a lot like the birth of Clay's son.

Wonder if Arsenio's show is going to be on NBC..thus NBC wanted him as a winner. I think Clay should have won. So did John Rich.

Really surprised Magic Johnson didn't show up. Random Whoppi sighting was weird..Jay Leno $5000???????????

Lisa gave $10,000

What was so important that Donald Jr couldn't show up. Not enough places at the table and they wanted to showcase Eric????


Teresa did a nice job decorating given what Arsenio wanted. What happened to No roasting. That stuff was pretty vulgar.

Edited by bandita, May 20, 2012 @ 10:11 PM.

[PictureItSicily]

What the frick!?!? (No offense to Arsenio)

Edited by PictureItSicily, May 20, 2012 @ 10:04 PM.

[reddust]

Arsenio licked Trump's shoes and kissed his ass right to the win. Damn Trump.

[CK17]

I really hate CA finales, they are so badly done. Instead of all the filler couldn't they cut 5 minutes of it and have Trump explain his choice of why Arsenio was picked.

Clay won the fundraising part, having Debbie sing probably lost him the entertainment, but his room was so much better so he should of had that.

[mojoween]

Ugh. I'm not a Claymate but I am a fangirl and the irony is not lost on me that nine years ago tomorrow I had to watch Clay come in second.

As soon as the crowd cheered louder at the beginning for Arsenio I knew he won because that's what the Idol producers did - they trolled the crowd outside the venue for Ruben fans so they would be louder.

Oh well. It's nice to see Clay get so much money anyways.

Trump is stupid. He TOTALLY did not listen when Dayana basically said she'll always hate Lisa.

Aubrey sucks at life.

How come Clay couldn't sing his own songs throughout the season?

Edited by mojoween, May 20, 2012 @ 10:06 PM.

[Shnuglet]

Well, I wanted Clay but Arsenio is okay.

Nice that Clay raised so much money in lieu of winning the quarter of a mill. And that he got a much better haircut. Now he just needs a decent tailor for his suits. I liked their duet.

[qeratify]

I'm a little surprised Arsenio won. I guess it doesn't really matter, what else do you win aside from $250k?

Dayana (and really, all of them in that original group) seemed a bit bitter at the beginning of the show, but seemed to loosen up towards the tail end of it

Edited by qeratify, May 20, 2012 @ 10:07 PM.

[cbenno]

Honestly, I think Arsenio's leadership style was hands down better than Clay's. I think that he managed people as grown ups (let them play to their strengths) without the micromanaging. I like Clay, and I think he is intelligent, but I think Arsenio's maturity in terms of managing people helped win him the prize. Plus, as they said, it's not easy to go unbeaten as a project manager--he basically had to manage every type of personality throughout the show to win.

[Philipscomments]

WTF? Clay brings in twice as much money, his show was much more entertaining... and Trump gives it to Arsenio????

First memorable moment was watching LIsa using a vacuum. That was priceless.

Then Aubrey singing waaaaaay off key. Wearing a dress that was actually too big for her boobs. Then seeing her walk onstage wearing yet another horizontal striped zebra dress. She needs a little truck in front of her with a flashing light.

I almost got teary when Clay sang "I Had The Time of My Life"... such an appropriate song for the whole show.

I realized tonight why it is that I don't get behind the Magic Johnson train. It's a great charity. A great cause. But something popped into my head tonight that reminded me of the interview he did with Barbara Walters (I think?) after he came out about being HIV positive. She asked him why he was having unprotected sex with strange women while engaged to his (now wife) Cookie, and he replied "I wanted to accommodate as many women as possible." That turned me off to him totally, on all levels, because he thought that way. Just my opinion.

Aubrey and her little golf clap, her snide expression, her fake "apology"... I wasn't buying it.

And WHAT was up with Dayana's question for Arsenio being the exact same thing he'd already been asked about Lisa?

The whole show was a waste except for seeing Debbie hula-hooping and spinning plates... "throw me a dime, big boy!" LOL

[ChicksDigScars]

So, basically, getting your ass handed to you in the final task, but name dropping Magic Johnson 50,000 times a season gets you the win? Good to know.

This ending was just as pre-determined as Joan Rivers beating Annie Duke.

And it is confirmed. Dayana IS a very pretty idiot.

Edited by ChicksDigScars, May 20, 2012 @ 10:10 PM.

[MagniFicent]

Poor Clay just got Annie Duke'd. That's some bullshit right there. The only thing Arsenio did better than Clay in the final challenge was kiss Trump's ass.

[angelita100]

Not surprised. Glad Clay gets to keep the money he raised for National Inclusion Project.
I've always been a fan of Arsenio so not going to rag on him. I've enjoyed the Clay/Arsenio friendship moments. Best thing about the show.

And best of all, I will never have to hear from Aubrey or Lisa again.

[bellblue]

What happened to Dayanna's face? Either she was wearing way too much make up or it looked like she had work done. I hope she didn't because she was absolutely stunning on the show. I found it uncomfortable to look at her during the finale.

Edited by bellblue, May 21, 2012 @ 5:30 PM.

[furryteeth]

Arsenio is better than Clay rhetorically, but not by much. If this finale were actually based on any real and consistent criteria (e.g., the final task), Arsenio probably shouldn't have won. (And I say this as someone that really likes the guy.) Aresenio's ad spot was probably better, but Clay smoked him on everything else.

It seems more like Trump just picks whoever looks better for the show and his "brand" in the end. The Annie Duke/Joan Rivers finale comes to mind.

But other than a $250K win, the title is meaningless.

You know, though . . . if this (for whatever reason) helps Arsenio get a new show, I can live with that.

[Philipscomments]

Wonder why Trump was working so hard to redeem Lisa but not Aubrey? Aubrey actually looked like she wished she wasn't there tonight.

[backformore]

What is the point of acting like the amount of money raised means anything, when the winner is pre-chosen before the money is even counted?

[randomname1]

I think being unbeaten as a project manager made a difference for Arsenio. And like a lot of folks said in last week's episode thread--though Clay was right about things like insisting on a sketch, he acted in such a condescending manner that he really came off as a jerk. Clay really acted like a twit with all the micromanaging in the final task, that cost him the win. And maybe Donald Trump didn't care, but towards the end those blogs Clay was doing on the official site just became self-serving promos for everything he did to my way of thinking. They started off well, but Clay was really coming off as a jerk by the end.

[jsb23nc]

How in the world did Clay lose? He raised WAAAAY more money, had a better performance, had a better setup of the party, had the support of the other contestants, and consistently performed better throughout the season.

Was Trump cross-marketing for a new show for Arsenio on nbc?

I just cannot understand. I am shocked.

[Magnitude]

I would have bet money that this was Clay's to lose. I'm not mad Arsenio won, I thought they were the right two to be in the finale. Was Lisa trying to make Arsenio lose, didn't work. Some things never change, thanks for that Aubrey. Dayanna I love love, I don't care!! Loved the 110% montage, great. Way, way to many commericals.

[RentEmSpoons]

I realized tonight why it is that I don't get behind the Magic Johnson train. It's a great charity. A great cause. But something popped into my head tonight that reminded me of the interview he did with Barbara Walters (I think?) after he came out about being HIV positive. She asked him why he was having unprotected sex with strange women while engaged to his (now wife) Cookie, and he replied "I wanted to accommodate as many women as possible." That turned me off to him totally, on all levels, because he thought that way. Just my opinion.

Judging a 52-year-old man for his ideals and actions when he was a young, rich, good-looking superstar in his 20s and 30s (and HIV was known as the "gay disease" at the time) is a bit harsh - and to hold it against his charity is a bit much. I can't think of anyone at that age who doesn't look back to that time and shake their head.

I like Clay, and I think he is intelligent, but I think Arsenio's maturity in terms of managing people helped win him the prize. Plus, as they said, it's not easy to go unbeaten as a project manager--he basically had to manage every type of personality throughout the show to win.

I think Clay was just outmatched. Arsenio had all those big names and big stars, and that sounds more impressive than a bunch of Claymates with money to spare even when the latter, in my opinion, is far more impressive. I mean, shit. Clay had kids playing in a park, and Arsenio had Magic goddamn Johnson. I'd argue that the Trumps were basically blinded by stars (literally). I'm actually surprised (and a little sad) that Clay didn't win just to keep him from the "runner up" jinx yet again.

However, the reason why I don't have a problem with the Arsenio win is because Penn and Aubrey basically saved Clay's ass. I don't remember whose idea the carnival was, but Penn nixing Clay's original ideas was the only thing that kept him neck and neck with Arsenio in the first place. Arsenio's project seemed to all be his from conception to execution. Add that to his being undefeated as project manager, and the choice was pretty clear. Maturity, wisdom and life experience will beat youth almost every time. It's easy to forget, but Arsenio is 56!

I give Trump credit for one thing, though. Aside from that bullshit when he tried to pressure Randall into letting him (more or less) choose two Apprentice winners, he has never declared a tie. If there was ever a year where it would've been justified, this was it.

Edited by RentEmSpoons, May 20, 2012 @ 10:26 PM.

[auntlada]

I swear I am never watching Clay in another reality TV competition again. I don't know why I root for him. I really thought he might win, until just before Trump said Arsenio's name. In the dramatic pause, I knew Clay lost. I don't know how, but I've never really understood Trump's decisions.

Arsenio had all those big names and big stars, and that sounds more impressive than a bunch of Claymates with money to spare even when the latter, in my opinion, is far more impressive.

I was very impressed that they were able to come up with $20,000. How many of them do you think contributed to that? Either there's a lot, or these are richer people than I thought.

Edited by auntlada, May 20, 2012 @ 10:25 PM.

[kazza2]

Wonder why Trump was working so hard to redeem Lisa but not Aubrey? Aubrey actually looked like she wished she wasn't there tonight.

Part of me thinks Trump chose Arsenio just to spite Aubrey. For all of Lisa's tantrums, I could buy that it was due to hormonal changes -- albeit insane, extreme ones. The Trumps (and Clay) have gone on record as saying that Lisa is a nice person. As far as I know no one has defended Aubrey.

Did not like Ivanka doing the lead-ins from the commercials. She's proven to be so much more than just a gorgeous blonde tv personality. Why did she have to play one on the finale?

[missy jo]

I didn't have a dog in the fight, I like both of them, but I thought Clay's task won hands-down. In terms of money raised, the carnival party, and the variety show. I feel bad for him.

Arsenio's comedy show was way too blue - start out by dissing Trump and end with a joke about Clay's asshole. Really, Donald?

[Philipscomments]

Judging a 52-year-old man for his ideals and actions when he was a young, rich, good-looking superstar in his 20s and 30s (and HIV was known as the "gay disease" at the time) is a bit harsh - and to hold it against his charity is a bit much. I can't think of anyone at that age who doesn't look back to that time and shake their head.

As I said, it's a great charity and a good cause. I in no way said otherwise. I just stated in my opinion his statements when he first came forward about having HIV were crass and clueless. I can say with personal experience that Magic Johnson going public helped a lot of people who were being promiscuous at the time to change their ways. But his sense of entitlement and "it was ok because I was just helping these women get what they wanted" was stupid.

He's not someone who I'd donate money to for this particular cause. But I do donate money to other organizations that support the same effort.

[LillyCL]

"I can't think of anyone at that age who doesn't look back to that time and shake their head."

Um, but Magic Johnson didn't 'shake his head', he made an arrogant comment about it.

Anyway, I was so shocked when Trump said Arsenio's name. As much as like Arsenio and was kind of getting sick of Clay, I really thought that Clay had this win in the bag.

"...but I've never really understood Trump's decisions."

Ditto on that.

[nice PANTS]

Arsenio's project seemed to all be his from conception to execution. Add that to his being undefeated as project manager, and the choice was pretty clear. Honestly, the only thing that separates Clay from Arsenio is youth.

Arsenio didn't appear to do anything beyond agree with other people's ideas. The video seemed to be Adam Corolla's production. I couldn't tell you what Arsenio even did for his task beyond sitting in on the editing of his promo and doing a bit of standup.

I think Clay was just outmatched. Arsenio had all those big names and big stars, and that sounds more impressive than a bunch of Claymates with money to spare even when the latter, in my opinion, is far more impressive.

For all the big names and big stars - how did he only raise half as much money as Clay? Take out the Clay fan donation of $20,000 - Clay still managed to raise $281,000.

Edited by nice PANTS, May 20, 2012 @ 10:32 PM.

[Philipscomments]

Did not like Ivanka doing the lead-ins from the commercials.

She reminded me of a squirrel who had come upon some child's sidewalk chalk and thought it would be a nice treat.

[auntlada]

And saying, "No roast," nice PANTS, although it sounded like one to me. They just weren't roasting Arsenio. Maybe that was his objection. I had thought his objection was to the tone of a roast, but maybe I was mistaken.