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[TWoP Mars]

From TVGuide.com:

Episode Synopsis: In the conclusion of the Season 4 finale, the Fringe team is desperate to prevent a catastrophic event that could cause mass death and destruction. Original Air Date: May 11, 2012

[wamboyil]

Who's coming?

I liked ol' creepy-eyes Rebecca Mader..that was...unsettling.

[prodigalchicken]

Best.Season. Finale. Ever. Can I just give Josh Jackson a big hug? He was *killing* me when Olivia "died". Even though, I was pretty sure she wasn't dead, he was just so fucking believable that I wept with him. And the end. . .fabulous. And the other stuff. . .also fucking awesome. I love this show so much I want to marry it and have little baby Fringes.


ETA: so psyched because Joel responded to one of my tweets :)

Edited by prodigalchicken, May 11, 2012 @ 9:11 PM.

[Ulkis]

My first thought when Olivia gave her news was THE VERY FIRST SCENE NEXT SEASON BETTER BE WALTER HAVING A TOO EARLY BABY SHOWER because I thought it was gonna end as soon as she told Peter. But then it turned out he was right there, so yay!

I have to rewatch the episode for actual, coherent thoughts.

Edited by Ulkis, May 11, 2012 @ 9:03 PM.

[AimingforYoko]

Minus that coda with the Observer, this would have worked as a series finale.
Did not see Walter shooting Olivia, but I knew killing her was necessary. Fortunately, she's (or was) Wolverine. Hell, she was half of the X-Men.

[ParadoxLost]

I am enormously happy that everyone is alive and Olivia doesn't have amnesia. Peter could break a person's heart.

[bagert]

The glyph: P-U-R-G-E Hmm, why does that word sound familiar? :)

Good that the writers were smart enough to take Astrid out of danger quickly.

Okay, anyone have Rebecca Mader as already dead when Olivia used the syringe on her? :)

Some of you definitely did have Rebecca as (a) Nina's daughter - good job with that!

Overlapping universes, you say?

Remember when two years ago, Bell remarked to Walter something like "Of all our creations, she (Olivia) may be our greatest"? I'd say that's a yes.

"Dorothy, er Olivia, you had the power all along." LOL

What??????????????????????? Get September over here, STAT!

What bent bullet?

General, as in General Petin? :P

John Noble was right - no way that last scene is shown if the show was ending here!

[ReadIshmael]

When Walter was talking about how the Cortexiphan would be gone from Olivia's system, I was so worried that it would mean she'd lose her memories of the original timeline and that she and Peter would be split up again. So glad that's not what happened. It's so nice to have the family back together.

No one has made me cry as reliably this season as Jasika; the scene in Astrid's hospital bed, when she swore to Peter that she'd tried to protect Walter, about broke me.

Sad that Jessica was a bad guy, but that scene with her hooked up to the machine was creepy and awesome and totally worth it.

[quarks]

:: head in hands ::

Walter, Walter, Walter. In no universe is saliva an acceptable antiseptic to use shortly before plunging a letter opener into someone's brain.

[Nightmare Logic]

Astrid lives!! Not a surprise but still... and a nice moment with Walter at the end with him calling her by her proper name.

So Liv could catch bullets for awhile...nice skill to have. Too bad she lost it. Is it wrong that I found that kind of hot?

I love questioning dead people. Hey wait....that a reference to season 1 right?

Everything eventually comes back to Walter and his shenanigans in the end, doesn't it?

Playing god/being God....uh oh.

Sparkage! Lots and lots of sparkage.

Oh my God! Walter killed Olivia. I guess every universe she did have to die...but this is Fringe after all, no one says she has to stay dead.

General Broyles.

Yay pregant Liv and happy Fringers.

They are coming....Bring on next season!!!!!!!! 13 episodes.

Edited by Nightmare Logic, May 11, 2012 @ 9:09 PM.

[bagert]

So was Jessica Holt the daughter of Nina or Meana, or was that a red herring?

Edited by bagert, May 11, 2012 @ 9:08 PM.

[aquarian1]

I, too, worried that Olivia would forget her memories w/o the Cortexiphan. However, since Walter said it left some biological (or was it geneitc?) markers, that could explain how the cortixi-powers get passed to her offspring.

I kept thinking Olivia couldn't stay dead because of 1) Chekov's Pig Brain Lemon Cake, and 2) knowing that Etta was 4 when her parents disappeared (thank you flash-forward episode!).

I wonder if the "bad" Observers come from a timelime/alt-uni where Peter and Olivia got trapped in Bell's universe, and therefore are the offspring of them, since they would be the new Adam and Eve and all. Of course, I would hate to think that something like them could come from those two, but it might explain how they ended up so different. No humans except them, no history except them, etc.

Edited by aquarian1, May 11, 2012 @ 9:10 PM.

[john68]

So next season is all about the Observers trying to take control I'm assuming.

Edited by john68, May 11, 2012 @ 9:10 PM.

[bagert]

I love question dead people. Hey wait....that a reference to season 1 right?

Yes, but not the pilot if I remember correctly.

I didn't like the scene where Bell starts babbling, even though something was needed to allow Walter to get the gun. It just became too much of a caricature. Or maybe too much like Wrath of Khan LOL

[AimingforYoko]

How did Bell know so much about the Observers? And is he responsible for "them" coming?

[prodigalchicken]

"She's dead!"

"You know very well that hasn't always stopped me!" Slap. Such raw emotion from John Noble and Josh Jackson. Gah, this show.

[bagert]

If Nimoy returns, we definitely need a Bell-Nina resolution.

[JunInohara]

Long time lurker who definitely can't keep silent. What a ride that was! My sister and I were texting back and forth the whole way, and at the commercials would basically call each other and just repeat, "What...that...I can't even", etc./rinse/repeat every time.

I KNEW Olivia was going to survive (aforementioned "Chekhov's Lemon Cake Delight") but that didn't stop me from gasping along with the rest of the Fringe fandom when it happened. That shocked me as little else has in this series. GOOD JOB GUYS. A +. And Peter, Ugh. Joshua Jackson was amazing(ly handsome in the Peacot! ahem...sorry, focusing, it's difficult to do).

And the whole bit with Jessica was AWESOME. Terrifyingly creepy and I am RARELY unnerved by things like that. Truly, truly unsettling.

I have more thoughts, but they're all too jumbled at the moment. Suffice it to say seeing "the family" so happy and whole at the end really brightened my evening.

[Money Magnet]

Well, that was definitely an improvement on last week's episode. Still the typical choppy and weirdly paced Fringe finale, but better.

I'm REALLY glad Fringe the series didn't end in such a dull locale as a hospital room.

Um, is that a natural talent of Rebecca Mader's, or was that some insane form of split-screening?

I guess a Walter shoots an Olivia in the head in every timeline? That took BALLS, Dr. Bishop. Large brass balls the size of two universes.

Loved Bell's exit, though - "We could have been so... happy."

Oh! Almost forgot the revelation that it was *Walter's* idea to create a new universe. Well played! Makes sense. And totally insaaaaaane as befitting an eventual resident of St. Clare's. HA! So William Bell stole his idea. What a scumbag!

[shapeshifter]

Holy poop when Olivia took a bullet in the forehead.

I too was so worried when she announced her pregnancy that instead she was going to say she was now back to being Amber Olivia and wasn't going to be living in a house with Peter.


O.K., Fringe music officiandos: What was the music playing during the pregnancy announcement scene (can we call it ever after The Annunciation?) and was it used in other scenes in the past?

Ulkis: Yes. There must be a baby shower given by Walter!

Minus that coda with the Observer, this would have worked as a series finale.

Indeed. Take note show writers everywhere. That is how you prepare for either a series or season finale. Fringe writers have experience with this.
And they totally played us with the SO NOT Chekov's Pig Brain Lemon Cake.

Okay, anyone have Rebecca Mader as already dead when Olivia used the syringe on her? :)

Gack. That was a long needle.

Some of you definitely did have Rebecca as (a) Nina's daughter - good job with that!

Huh? What?

[oconnellaboo]

I'm having some trouble forming coherent thoughts right now. What an absolutely amazing, astonishing, heart-wrenching, uplifting finale! It would have been a perfectly lovely series finale, but I'm so glad it's not!!

Peter destroyed me when Olivia "died" - Josh was absolutely magnificent, and his interaction with John during her "healing" scene just killed me. This cast... there are no words.

Olivia's pregnant! I cried. Seriously. Total puddle of happy shipper mush. Those two gorgeous kids, with their happy beaming lovey-dovey faces! I yelled, "A happy ending! Oh, my God! A happy ending!!" At least, for now...

I've babbled enough for now. Show, I love you. I love you SO DAMN MUCH.

[jophan]

I suppose Olivia really was brain dead in 2x01, and recovered? It took a few hours because she'd barely been activated.

[txhorns79]

I kept having a Buffy moment with Olivia during the episode. When she and September were talking before he vanished again, I really did half expect him to say "Death is your gift."

[lizw65]

Aaaand...
We now know what Bell meant back in the old timeline when he told Olivia she would need Peter Bishop by her side! It looks as though the theory of time loops with the same scenario playing out over and over again was the right one--Bell knew this was going to happpen, that in one (or several) timelines he "went bad" and tried to play God, and that was his way of warning Olivia that she had to stop it.
It didn't even occur to me that she might lose all her memories when the Cortexiphan left her system. I'm glad it didn't--that would have been a scary thought!
And I agree, if the show had been cancelled, this could have functioned as a deeply satisfying series finale.

[jackkerouac]

Peter destroyed me when Olivia "died" - Josh was absolutely magnificent, and his interaction with John during her "healing" scene just killed me.

At least we know there is NO CHANCE of any serious problems with the pregnancy. Even if we hadn't already seen the future, if a gal can get shot in the head and the pregnancy is still viable, she's pretty much indestructible.

Edited by jackkerouac, May 11, 2012 @ 9:28 PM.

[Oldgeek]

Last week when Jessica was laid out and Walter was working on her I said to my husband "she looks like the bride of Frankenstein" and this week she WAS!

I'm already in withdrawal. Will have to rewatch -- a lot.

Ya know, they must really have thought they would be cancelled.

And how about Cerveris as 'guest star', oh my!

Altogether funny and creepy and weepy, just the way I like it.

Edited by Oldgeek, May 11, 2012 @ 9:34 PM.

[lizw65]

And the whole bit with Jessica was AWESOME.

Yeah, that definitely surpasses the dead ballerina from Marionette as the creepiest Fringe scene ever.

[oconnellaboo]

Yeah, that definitely surpasses the dead ballerina from Marionette as the creepiest Fringe scene ever.

Couldn't agree more! Super-duper creepy, and then to be followed by Let's-Shove-Olivia's-Brain-Bullet-Out? INSANE.

And... Welcome, JunInohara!

[Grinling]

I can't believe they let us have a happy ending! That was probably the biggest surprise of all, the last thing I expected.... I like it. I feel resolution to the season, as opposed to last year's finale, which left me feeling hollow.

Loved it! I have a happy warm glow. :)

[Money Magnet]

At least we know there is NO CHANCE of any serious problems with the pregnancy.

Well, theoretically there could be. Two things:

1) This is the first known cross-universe baby. Do we know what happens when a baby has a red parent and a blue parent? Could be strange.

2) All that activated cortexiphan in Olivia's system - who knows what effect that activation had on the baby?

However, I suspect we won't see a birth episode (waste of time, IMHO) and may very well pick up when baby Etta is a young child.