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Posted May 8, 2012 @ 2:24 AM

Also it was great to see the sled induce Art's and JJ's bitter, bitter tears, which shall surely water Rachel's and Dave's victory garden.


I don't think it's advisable to water a victory garden with bitter tears. The salt content wouldn't be conducive to growth and flowering.

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Art Gets Overwhelmed: Art starts off talking, "What can you say about JJ? He's a horse..." JJ just sits there and looks like he's going to start bawling. Finally Art puts his head in his hand and starts crying. JJ eventually comes to life and says Art is depressed because of the last roadblock.

Then he tells Art to imagine what it would have been like if the Bollywood dance had been the roadblock on the last leg. He never would have finished it. Art is still crying and JJ insists he is **NOT** blaming Art for them losing. "So when you say I'm sorry, what are you sorry for?"

I was on the verge of saying, where has this JJ been, as he reminds Art of the good things they accomplished, until he says, "...and giving money to Bopper?" In my book, charity is not charity when you make a big deal out of it and try to get recognition for it. My parents raised me quite differently, I guess. And there's more. "We did these special thing that other men" (then he talks about younger men, different kinds of men, as if to emphasize it) "they can't do what we did, man." This whole time, Art is still crying.

JJ tells him he thinks they are still too close to it all, that eventually they will laugh about everything. - Evidently, it took Art SIXTY times to get the sled task done. That is what JJ said, and he repeated it. - The clip ended with Art saying, "Yeah, but I hate losing. I hate it."

JJ and Brendon Bond: During the sledding part of the roadblock... Art came close to quitting. The TAR editors really gave this a misleading title. There was zero bonding between JJ and Brendon. Basically it was JJ talking about how hard this was being for Art. Brendon mumbled a few platitudes about how hard it was to watch from the sidelines and not be able to help. But other than that, the entire clip was JJ prattling about how hard it was being for Art.

Art wanted to take the two hour penalty, but JJ insisted he keep doing it until he finished, even if everyone else was gone.

Brendon's Last Pep Talk: In the helicopter, Rachel is a hot mess, crying about how she doesn't know how she can do any more than she is already doing. Brendon, "Rachel, you have to learn that if you don't win every reality TV show, it's not the end of the world." Rachel: "Obviously."

Rachel was most distressed because they were an hour behind the other two teams at that point. (Way more serious mistake than they showed during the episode.) Brendon: "Then stop giving up!" He also pointed out that she was only assuming they were an hour behind, because she couldn't know what else was going on. He told her she needed to put everything that had happened to that point behind them, and concentrate on the task before them.

She kept blaming herself for misreading the clue. He asked how that could be her fault, when he had read the clue too and made the same mistake. So it was their mistake, not hers. He said they needed to keep going.

Wanting to Give Back: Rachel said that being on the race has made her decide that she's going to go back to school, continue her education, so that when Brendon graduates, both of them can work in a third world country together, addressing issues like poverty and disease. She said (and he affirmed) that that had always been an abstract idea to the two of them, but after having seen a bit of it on the race, they knew it was something they had to do.

Former Friends Meet Up: At the airport in Japan, Dave noted that Art and JJ had just arrived. He said Art is still "amicable", but that JJ hasn't said more than four words to him since Tanzania. Dave has tried to repair the relationship, "extended numerous olive branches that have been snapped." He is trying to decide whether he should try one more time, maybe congratulate Art and JJ on making F3.

So to the ticket counter. Dave and Rachel did indeed congratulate Art and JJ, who :cough: returned the congratulations. For quite a while, Art and JJ refused to make eye contact. Finally Dave and Rachel asked about the stitch (singular) in JJ's hand, and he turned and started talking and talking and talking (finally back to being the center of the universe, I guess). But as soon as that was done, it was back to ice in the air.

Art and JJ Love Japan: JJ says he really likes Japan, because it was a place of structure, and order, and rules, and laws. Cab drivers drive with white gloves, everything is pristine. "It's what civilization is supposed to be. It's not supposed to be haphazard, random, chaos." No one honks. It's polar opposite of India. "This is what living is supposed to be like. You're supposed to be able to drive your car without getting smashed into. ... It was very pleasant to come to a First World country."

Dave's Soldier: Rachel said she sees the biggest problem she and Dave face is that he sees her as his soldier. Even when she doesn't agree with him, he thinks she needs to agree with him. That's because his subordinates just have to take orders from him. They can't say that's not the right way to do something. So he doesn't know how to react when she says, "No, Dave, I think there's a better option."

Dave concedes that in the military with its hierarchy, whoever is in command has the right to issue orders. He expects his soldiers to follow his orders, and he has to follow his CO's orders. As long as it's not unlawful. So it was very difficult for him when he felt like he knew the best way to approach a task, when his partner (Rachel) would dispute it, to the point of negating it and having her own "plan of action" - it's not something he faces in his professional life.

Rachel said she's a project manager for a software company. In that role, she is used to collaboration, to developing strategies together (and here she pointedly looked at Dave and grinned). She never orders people around. A very different way of working.

Then Dave said something that was a hmmm moment for me. He said people shouldn't get the wrong idea about the military. People of equal rank do work together and collaborate, but they report to a commander. My take from this: He truly does not see Rachel as "of equal rank" - but only as a subordinate. Otherwise, he would have little trouble "collaborating" with her.

Vanessa and Ralph's Goodbye: She is still trying to sell them as a couple. Ha! Although bad Ralph, bad Ralph, he played along. "I need her." Probably the shortest "goodbye" (elimination) clip I've ever seen. Only 1:28. One minute and twenty-eight seconds.

Vanessa Wouldn't Quit: "The only thing that's going to make me feel better is if I look better." This is an extended version of the bit in the episode where Vanessa is applying false eyelashes in the taxi. Not much new-news here. More of the same. She did say she was wearing the same shirt that day ("Ralph's daughter and I made it together") that she wore on Watermelon Day. So she's going to retire the shirt.

A Solemn Moment: Vanessa said it's hard to think about the fact that it was "us" (Americans) who inflicted that destruction. She and Ralph said it was a solemn moment, one of the best parts so far. They wondered what they could do to ensure that something like that wouldn't happen again. Vanessa commented that it felt especially relevant because of U.S. responsibility for so much war in the world these days.

(I have to say, this really surprised me, because the San Antonio-based reality show she participated in before supposedly cast conservative Yuppies to go live in the inner city. Her words didn't sound like those of a conservative Yuppie.)

Not Worth the Cost: More Rachel and Dave spatting. But she said she doesn't want to win the race if it means she's miserable. She only wants success if it will bring happiness, not success at any cost. (Dave of course disagrees.)

Rachel's Final Advice: BBRachel at the finish line. Gawd, the Amazing Editors must have hated BBRachel. Her little speech at the finish line was funny, and Brenchel and Dave-Rachel really seemed happy for one another. Brenchel were honestly gracious losers, and the four of them shared some hilarious quips that seemed to be well-received by everyone but Border Patrol and Vanessa. Everyone else responded quite nicely to Brenchel.

And Phil congratulated the two women on their toughness. BBRachel: "Rachel Squared!" She also said she would advise any future TAR racers to be in shape, and to read their clues!

Giving Props to Rachel and Dave: Also at the finish line. Art and JJ were a bit nicer too at the finish line than was shown last night. They said they expected everyone they work with to harass them about the race for the rest of their lives. Sleds on their desk, among other things.

Simply the Best: Kudos to whomever upthread noted how much earlier Dave and Rachel made it to the finish line the second time. Waaaay more sunlight! - That said, Rachel and Dave said that when Phil told them they hadn't done the roadblock, they were baffled. Phil, "For the first time ever?" Dave, "For the first time ever!"

He said he always knows what to do, but when they heard they hadn't done the roadblock, they didn't even know where to begin looking. They worried it meant they had to go alllll the way back. They ran about a mile, saw Art and JJ, and realized what they had to do. (Goodness, can you imagine what would have happened if Art and JJ hadn't been there?)

Part of the problem (the reason they didn't do the roadblock) is because the taxi driver had no clue at all where Coral Gate was. She kept driving around, and they kept looking for anything TAR-like. They finally stopped when they saw what they thought was Coral Gate, but in reality was the way to the Pit Stop instead.

Dave ended his part by saying he hoped his son Lincoln was proud of him. Rachel said she hopes they can go home and reconnect with Lincoln, because Dave's absence has affected him too.

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Posted May 8, 2012 @ 3:52 AM

Going there by cab seemed to even take longer than walking there.


That's because the place they went to by cab - Aloha Stadium - wasn't the place they were supposed to go. The field they were supposed to go to was a complex of four baseball diamonds on Sand Island (where they did the Shave Ice task). It's at the other end of that small island. They depended on their cab driver's knowledge, and that clearly didn't extend to the ball diamonds on Sand Island. He suggested Aloha Stadium, which is literally halfway across the city from Sand Island - in fact very near Pearl Harbor. So they drove there, found it was the wrong place, and drove back to Sand Island. It was a million dollar wild goose chase, much like the one that Art & JJ went on.

All of which means that Dave & Rachel were very lucky to have won.

For TAR 21, I think it should go back to basics in some ways - as in absolutely no crossover reality show castings (from BB, Survivor, etc.), no former pro athletes (even in obscure sports) or relations of such - just eleven or twelve teams of ordinary people.

Presuming there is a TAR 22, I would not be opposed to seeing someone like Yau-Man Chan or Yul Kwon be in the race with a partner of their choice.

Mark and Bopper is a lock for TAR: UB2 for sure, and Dave and Rachel are certainly in the TAR Hall Of Fame in at least one way (if not more!).


I don't disagree with this idea for TAR 21, though if you are talking about getting back to basics there are things beyond casting ideas I'd like to see them work on. I'd like to see them do some things that they've done in earlier seasons, like having the final leg occur in several locations. Just as an example the final leg of TAR 1 started in China, went to Alaska and then finished in New York. TAR 5's final leg started in the Philippines went to Calgary and ended in Fort Worth. Season 6's final leg started in China, stopped in Hawaii, and ended in Chicago. The idea is that teams shouldn't feel comfortable enough to check their bags and abandon them at the airport once they reach the US as was suggested in an earlier post.

If you want to focus on casting, I don't think you're ever going to truly get away from some form of stunt casting, though I really don't want to see another reality show team for a while - not after Ethan & Jenna and Brendon & Rachel in back-to-back seasons. I could certainly see pro athletes participating in some way shape or form, because in case you haven't noticed their athletic abilities haven't exactly made them winners - witness this season's pro soccer player (with his brother) and the pro golfer (and her sister) this season. And in truth one of my favourite seasons featured the most famous and successful example of stunt casting - Rob & Amber.

Here a couple of ideas for future seasons where former players are brought back:
  • Have a previous player partnered with someone who has never played before; i.e. Uchenna with his brother or someone he works with.
  • All of the players are from previous seasons but they randomly draw for partners before The Race starts; for example Rob from Season 7 partnered with Vyxin from Season 12.

Not of course that the producers would ever do something like that.

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Posted May 8, 2012 @ 5:08 AM

I don't disagree with this idea for TAR 21, though if you are talking about getting back to basics there are things beyond casting ideas I'd like to see them work on. I'd like to see them do some things that they've done in earlier seasons, like having the final leg occur in several locations. Just as an example the final leg of TAR 1 started in China, went to Alaska and then finished in New York. TAR 5's final leg started in the Philippines went to Calgary and ended in Fort Worth. Season 6's final leg started in China, stopped in Hawaii, and ended in Chicago. The idea is that teams shouldn't feel comfortable enough to check their bags and abandon them at the airport once they reach the US as was suggested in an earlier post.


But that could mean multiple HOO bunching in the final leg. I personally prefer the way things are done now: you live or die by your performance (and your luck) in this one leg; you don't get to hope for an equalizer halfway through the leg.

As for getting back to basics, I miss those days when each detour had its own pros and cons.

This finale was a massive improvement over last season's, where the A+ students completely smoked the C students; the shuffling between the teams made for a thrilling hour. However, I'm not sure that this was due to excellent leg design so much as forces outside TPTB's control. Honestly, the only task that truly shook things up was the final roadblock, and had Davechel's taxi driver dropped them off at the right spot, they would've won in a cakewalk.

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Posted May 8, 2012 @ 5:14 AM

In terms of human lives, he's right. The immediate destruction was not as bad as the after effects of the radiation. Even American soldiers who went in afterward to help "clean up" became victims of radiation. Brendon may be annoying, but his assessment was accurate.

Yeah but he said "massive destruction", not "massive death toll". That is just stupid as hell and a physics master should know better.
Usually I give people the benifit of the doubt, but here I'm absolutely sure, that he actually meant what he said.

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Posted May 8, 2012 @ 6:03 AM

Miles, in one of the extra clips that I didn't "recap", Brendon and Rachel expand on their earlier comments (and I wouldn't be surprised if their taxi-ride comments formed the basis for what we heard in the official episode).

He actually speaks quite intelligently about what happened. He clearly differentiated between the massive destruction caused by the explosion of the bomb itself, marvelling at the science behind it while understanding what science wrought. And then talking about the effects of the radiation and deaths caused by that, and how that even to this day, scientists seek to understand how radiation did that. He noted that they study relationship between distance from blast to effects of death.

And this extra clip was in itself a shortened version of their longer conversation. While the comments were of necessity superficial, they were not stupid.

Since I'm involved in Holocaust education and have to think about this sort of stuff, words matter to me. It's hard to grasp "political" debates over the differences in incendiary versus hydrogen versus atomic versus neutron bombs as if one is more moral than the other. That's a whole other topic.

Let's just say that I am happily surprised that TAR tackled something like this, even if too quickly to be fully meaningful as-is. At least they provided a platform for additional discussion, for parents who watch TAR with their children and for teachers who watch it with their students. Good for them!

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Posted May 8, 2012 @ 7:40 AM

The comments made at Hiroshima were made by people who were very stressed, tired, and totally focused on something else. I give them all some latitude for saying some things that might not make them look a bit dippy or not saying much. Interrupting a race for a million dollars with something so somber and expecting great comments is a bit unfair. Dave's answer was a false equivalency Pearl Harbor does not equal Hiroshima but I think he was trying to process what he saw from a military point of view. Not to mention the point of view of some recently home from a war zone where he probably knew people who were killed. Brendan was trying to process what he saw as a physist and said something a bit silly. Art and JJ said hardly anything but we know they are über competitive and probably were unable to really leave the race mode.

As for Dave's comments about hierarchy and order's, Dave was recently back from a war zone. While there are a good number of officers in a deployed unit, there are far more people who take orders from officers. Part of the problem for people returning g from combat is that they have difficulty adjusting to relationships that are meant to be more equal. I think Rachel got that but was struggling witha husband who most likely treated her differently before he deployed. I cannot see Rachel marrying someone who saw her as a subordinate and have to believe that their normal relationship is very different. We also don't know if the stress did not trigger some. Residual memories and issues for Dave. He annoyed me at times but I will cut him some slack.

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Posted May 8, 2012 @ 7:51 AM

In those extra clips, does Brendon also clarify his onscreen statement that he "studies radiation" at UCLA? A veritable Rutherford, isn't he? His own description of what he does says: "Cancer research via Positron Emission Tomography (PET) Imaging. I am investigating biological mechanisms in the human brain that may aid in preventing neurodegenerative disease; also involved in proliferation of various types of cancer." I mean, you could make the case that he "studies radiation" if you really, really wanted, but it would be kind of like claiming that bakers are combustion specialists.

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Posted May 8, 2012 @ 8:41 AM

I also savored their mix-up going to the twin towers, which was perfect karma for following someone after ragging on others for doing so.


I don't normally post in this forum, but I keep seeing this comment as though they both were demanding that the driver follow the other cab. Wasn't it just Art? JJ seemed pissed that Art wasn't even trying. He kept saying something like "This isn't right."

I just know that JJerk is *STILL* whining and bitching about not winning, and blaming it entirely on Art, the taxi driver, and everyone but himself.

And, I sure as hell wasn't going to go here, but I'll make one comment: My brother is a San Diego border patrol agent and knows these two guys well. Since we aren't as close as some siblings, I haven't bugged him about the Art/JJ issue since I saw his first comment on FB about how "you're seeing EDITED versions of these guys" (*sigh*--what are ya gonna do?), but Art and JJ did have a nice, sizable viewing party (saw the pix). I was thinking that if I'd blown my lead like they did, the last thing I'd want to do is have a viewing party--I'd just watch it at home and get prepared for whatever snarky comments came my way. Sounds to me like they got over pretty well (although how could anyone in that situation get over it completely?).

All in all, I didn't like any of the teams much, so yeah, I agree that the least objectionable team won.

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Posted May 8, 2012 @ 8:43 AM

Then Dave said something that was a hmmm moment for me. He said people shouldn't get the wrong idea about the military. People of equal rank do work together and collaborate, but they report to a commander. My take from this: He truly does not see Rachel as "of equal rank" - but only as a subordinate. Otherwise, he would have little trouble "collaborating" with her.


My take on this comment was that he saw Rachel as an equal, but in normal military situations they (equal rank) would have a commander over them to make the final decisions. On the race, there was no one higher in rank...and Dave wasn't used to that. Both of them had to make adjustments under Race stress....she was used to making her own decisions (no collaboration) while he was away. Of course, he had many men under him in Iraq...who were subject to his orders. Whole new ball game for both of them.

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Posted May 8, 2012 @ 9:04 AM

How Dave relativized, rather than how he politicized, dropping the bomb irked me more. Saying that dropping the bomb hasten its end is an historically problematic position, but it has become a common belief. Indeed, my grandfather, who fought at Iwo Jima, believed he owed his life to the bomb, which spared him from what would have been a lengthy and bloody invasion. Military leaders--first German, than British, than American--believed that strikes against civilian populations would bring a swift end to an aspect of the war. They didn't (or at least they didn't in themselves convince military leaders to change directions). But it's debatable, and many people still believe in their effectiveness.

Edited by Bad Thoughts, May 8, 2012 @ 9:33 AM.


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Posted May 8, 2012 @ 12:18 PM

She kept blaming herself for misreading the clue. He asked how that could be her fault, when he had read the clue too and made the same mistake. So it was their mistake, not hers. He said they needed to keep going.


I guess they were confused about the stadium vs. baseball diamond, but she shouldn't feel bad about misreading the clue as relates to the mode of transportation. She read aloud that they should proceed on foot. Then she and Brendon (who of course was standing right there as she read it of course) headed to the taxis.

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Posted May 8, 2012 @ 12:45 PM

1) I was disappointed in what I saw as pretty much a waste of Hiroshima/Miyajima. There are many cool tasks they could have done in that area (the gondola up Miyajima is awesome), and it was basically "fly here, go here, fly to Osaka". Why bother? It's not like that moment at the A-bomb dome was worth it.

2) HAHAHAHA, Art and JJ FAIL.

3) I don't really like the crossover stuntcasting, but then again, it's easier to follow the first few episodes of the season if you know who is who. If they have to have so many young dating couples, at least having someone from Survivor or BB means that they have an identity right off the bat. (Of course, this could also be resolved by having fewer YDC's).

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Posted May 8, 2012 @ 1:07 PM

Dave bringing up Pearl Harbor really made me mad because honestly that type of comment brought up memories of last year after the earthquake and tsunami when there was a fairly vocal backlash by some people online bringing up Pearl Harbor and how Japan deserved it. Then later in the year during the final game of the Women's World Cup all you had to do was look at twitter to see Pearl Harbor and offensive anti-Japanese topics trending. There just seems to be a lot of people who only think of Pearl Harbor when they think of Japan and there are just a million things wrong with that. I didn't like Dave throughout the race but I was beginning to think I wanted to see them win the most when he went and said that.

I didn't care for any teams very much this season. Even the Kentucky guys, I started cheering for them eventually but only when I realized that they were the most likable team left and everyone else was awful. I really hope there are more likable teams next season and no more stunt casting for now.

As for this leg, I thought it was alright. Because I didn't like any of the teams I was considering not even watching the whole episode but it was interesting enough to keep me watching. I do wish though that they had added a memory task like they usually do in the last leg.

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Posted May 8, 2012 @ 1:20 PM

As others have already mentioned, the racers comments at the memorial were made by exhausted people who had to refocus themselves to respond to something hard to fathom. I'm not going to judge any of the racers on what they did or did not say at that point. Plus, their comments were no doubt edited.

The problem with the memory tasks is that they had become lamer and lamer...and most teams were totally prepared for them over the past few seasons. I think the planners wanted give those tasks a rest, and surprise the teams by not including one.

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Posted May 8, 2012 @ 1:29 PM

The problem with the memory tasks is that they had become lamer and lamer...and most teams were totally prepared for them over the past few seasons. I think the planners wanted give those tasks a rest, and surprise the teams by not including one.

I think it would have been nice to have seen a memory task. The one last season with the giant map on a rock climbing wall was beyond lame. But the one that Nat and Kat did with the electronic wall of greeters and their hats was a great task. The one where they had to put surfboards in order was good as well. Last season the myriad of different clue receptacles led many here to think that was going to be the final memory task. This current season had already started taping by then, right? Perhaps the clue box memory task can make it into the next edition?

I shudder at Phil saying we won't have another Big Brother team but that we might see some familiar faces. Because I read that as "Russell and Brandon Hantz". Good lord.

If it happens I will probably be fast forwarding a lot. Just like how after Dave and Rachel got sent back after checking into the finish line the first time, I saw Art and JJ in the lead, resigned myself to the unpleasantness that Art and JJ were going to win, and literally started fast forwarding the rest of the show until I saw Dave and Rachel get to the sleds. What? I can't be the only one that did that, can I?

Edited by blackwing, May 8, 2012 @ 1:30 PM.


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Posted May 8, 2012 @ 1:33 PM

After they went to Hiroshima and they were headed to Hawaii, I was sure they would go to the Arizona Memorial in Pearl Harbor - kind of "you've seen where WW2 ended, now visit where it started" (for the US, anway). Of course, they would have to refrain from mentioning who bombed Pearl Harbor, just like they didn't mention who bombed Hiroshima. Glad they didn't go there.

Here a couple of ideas for future seasons where former players are brought back:
1.Have a previous player partnered with someone who has never played before; i.e. Uchenna with his brother or someone he works with.

2.All of the players are from previous seasons but they randomly draw for partners before The Race starts; for example Rob from Season 7 partnered with Vyxin from Season 12.

Re: Suggestion 2 - I always thought it would be interesting if they randomly drew for partners before every leg of the race, from whomever was still in it. Everyone would have to start at the same time, but there would be much less of the team vs team fighting and more focus on racing.

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Posted May 8, 2012 @ 1:35 PM

I do not think Art understood how to go about using the sled. It was obvious by how narrow it was that it would be a balancing act. Art just seemed to sort of flop on it and hope that he could get enough speed to make it to the bottom without falling off. It is tasks like that where so many "alpha" guys lose it. They get frustrated why they cannot use force and strength to get through.

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Posted May 8, 2012 @ 3:24 PM

Dave and Rachel were masterful racers and deserved to win. However, they do so remind me of my parents. I hope she finally finds some happiness.

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Posted May 8, 2012 @ 6:18 PM

Although no fan of Dave, I don't find his comment regarding Pearl Harbor offensive. After all, the unprovoked attack without declaration of war was what brought us into the war in the first place. Secondarily, the people some claim were on the verge of surrender were warned on July 26 of "prompt and utter destruction" if they did not do so. Yet, they did not surrender even after Hiroshima, and further not for six more days after Nagasaki, which was three days after Hiroshima.

Of the final three, I was ok with the Rachel/Dave win, but my heart was out of it after Team Kentucky was gone. I didn't much care for BB Rachel, but I found Vanessa's bullying of her ridiculous. I wouldn't have rooted for BB Rachel in the least if Vanessa hadn't made me feel sorry for her.

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Posted May 8, 2012 @ 9:11 PM

Dave and Rachel were masterful racers and deserved to win. However, they do so remind me of my parents. I hope she finally finds some happiness.


Sorry if you have unhappy memories of your parents' marriage...but after watching the various extra clips, and reading quite a few interviews with Dave and Rachel, they sounded pretty happy to me.And the money and record-setting were just a small part of it.

I know I'm guilty of making quick judgments about teams on TAR...but to be fair, you can't use the few minutes we see of them on a stressful race to make real assessments of their actual character. Also, often those glimpses are very carefully edited to create a particular view of the teams to suit an agenda.

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Posted May 8, 2012 @ 9:28 PM

His own description of what he does says: "Cancer research via Positron Emission Tomography (PET) Imaging. I am investigating biological mechanisms in the human brain that may aid in preventing neurodegenerative disease; also involved in proliferation of various types of cancer." I mean, you could make the case that he "studies radiation" if you really, really wanted, but it would be kind of like claiming that bakers are combustion specialists.


Except PET scans use radioactive isotopes (i.e., radiation) that are injected into someone's body, are given time to be taken up by cells in the body, and then are read by the PET machine. The PET machine can differentiate between the way cancer cells and non-cancer cells uptake of the isotopes to help clarify where cancerous cells are in the body. So if he studies that... Isn't that "studying how radiation can be used to help people" or whatever it was he said? Its seems right on to me... at least in the way someone can explain in a 10 second talking head.

Interrupting a race for a million dollars with something so somber and expecting great comments is a bit unfair.

Except the point of the Amazing Race the TV show isn't the million dollars. Its the trip around the world and the enlightenment that comes with that. For the contestants as well as the viewers. I really liked the inclusion as a way to highlight what the race is really about, even right down to the end.

Edited by fionab, May 8, 2012 @ 9:36 PM.


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Posted May 9, 2012 @ 7:14 AM

If it was a trip around the world and all the experiences there would not be a one million dollar prize, teams would not be eliminated, and there would be tasks that were much more culturally orientated to help teams understand the part of the world that they are in.

The Race is, first and foremost a race for a million dollars. Asking teams to set that aside during the last few legs and to focus on the enormity of any historic event is a bit silly. Yes they all Had to spend the same amount of time so the pressure was off for that time but none of them were thinking about where they were. I think that those type visits are inappropriate for the race. The racers rarely give answers to the pointed questions that people want because they are in race mode. The time does not give the site justice.

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Posted May 9, 2012 @ 8:52 AM

His own description of what he does says: "Cancer research via Positron Emission Tomography (PET) Imaging. I am investigating biological mechanisms in the human brain that may aid in preventing neurodegenerative disease; also involved in proliferation of various types of cancer." I mean, you could make the case that he "studies radiation" if you really, really wanted, but it would be kind of like claiming that bakers are combustion specialists.


I think Brendan is a doof, but I'm willing to give him some latitude on this one. My husband works in molecular biology, and if he tries to explain what he *actually* does to the average layperson, they respond with a blank stare. So he has learned to explain it in the most basic terms, even though that description isn't 100% correct. If Brendan is studying PET scans, then radiation is part of that, so he's probably learned that it's easier to explain it that way since most non-scientists have some knowledge of what radiation is and does.

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Posted May 9, 2012 @ 9:42 AM

This reminds me of The Big Bang Theory episode where Sheldon got pissed at his sister for calling him "a rocket scientist". I don't disagree - like I said, if you put certain qualifiers on it, you can make the case that Brendon studies radiation.

BTW, is it just me or is the phrasing of Brendon's research description a little ambiguous and might be interpreted like he himself is involved in proliferation of cancer?

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Posted May 9, 2012 @ 10:51 AM

I thought the final roadblocks were very cleverly structured -- the first was geared towards people with upper body strength (probably guys). (I did like that Dave did not automatically assume he would be doing it...he waited for Rachel to decide.) The second roadblock was probably easier for women (although Art might have been able to do it sooner if he stopped long enough to examine why he kept failing.) Actually, neither task required brute strength...so two women might have been successful, too.

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Posted May 9, 2012 @ 5:24 PM

I thought the final roadblocks were very cleverly structured


I 100% agree. I particularly liked that the 'better' (cockier?) teammate... Dave, Brendon, & JJ... all took the 1st roadblock, completely unaware that their partner would be left to do the final challenge. All three alpha males were forced to rely on the prowess of their partners when it really counted, which I really appreciated. I liked that the teams would only be as successful as the strength of their second partner allowed - a nice change from seasons past and a hell of a lot better than the memory challenges.

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Posted May 9, 2012 @ 6:21 PM

BTW, is it just me or is the phrasing of Brendon's research description a little ambiguous and might be interpreted like he himself is involved in proliferation of cancer?


Giving people cancer is a perfectly valid hobby. If you can get paid for it too, all the better!

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Posted May 10, 2012 @ 8:27 PM

For all those asking why Vanessa didn't tape up her ankle, she says she did: Amazing Race's Vanessa and Ralph: Rachel Is a "Weak Personality"

Your ankle looked nasty. Why didn't you tape it up?
Vanessa: We actually did. I would stop during it every once in a while and Ralph taped it up. He did a fairly good job, but every time he taped it up, it would swell so much that it looked like a tube of biscuits that you had just slammed on the counter, and my ankle would just pop out. It was gross. So the wrapping was kind of pointless. But I think they just kept using the same shot of my ankle.



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Posted May 10, 2012 @ 9:58 PM

it would swell so much that it looked like a tube of biscuits that you had just slammed on the counter, and my ankle would just pop out.

What a perfect description!