So the only way one of the brothers to prove their love for Elena is to be at her beck and call always, and stick around and watch their brother be with the woman that they both love? Really? Because now that I think about it maybe awkward is not a strong enough word to use here.
Yeah, it would be awkward, but we all make sacrifices for the people we love.
And thatís your opinion and thatís fine, not a fact. In my opinion Stefan was pointing out the obvious, acknowledging Elenaís choice will have real consequences for the dynamic of all three relationships. And he seems willing to let Elena go and step aside for his brother if Elenaís choice goes against him. Some may see that as selfish, I see it is Stefan doing the best he can to navigate through the fall out.
No, it was Stefan acknowledging how hard it would be for him.
I completely agree, turning this into a contest is awful. But that is not Stefan doing that, that is the show turning this triangle into something out of the bachelor.
That's ridiculous, especially for two people who claim to love her so, so much. It's like saying she's worth something only inside a romantic relationship, which has very little to do with love and very much to do with winning a contest.
This is what I was trying to say, but you did such a better job at it. Stefan and Elena have so much romantic history, while Damon and Elena have flirting and friendship, so to me it's not the same thing. And Stefan does mope and brood and wear his heart on his sleeve, He feels things very deeply and I think he knows this about himself. While Damon I think feels every bit as much as Stefan, they are different people with different personalities. I think Stefan is just being more realistic about the situation, thatís just how I see it.
That said, the way I read what each brother is feeling is like this. Damon, has already lived with witnessing the Stefan/Elena relationship. He also can be more flippant and pretend things don't affect him more. If Elena chose Stefan, he wouldn't be losing much of anything because he hasn't had her romantically, in the real sense of the word and he's more capable of watching her with someone else. In some ways he's more mature than Stefan in that sense. On the other side, Stefan was with Elena. They were truly together and because of his actions recently (which were sparked due to him wanting to save his brother) he could lose her. He would have to watch her be with his brother, which he's never had to do. He's also the type that sits around moping from his emotional angst so much it makes others scream, so he knows he won't do a very good job of watching them and manage to keep his sanity. And both point of views are perfectly okay with. IMO, if you know you can't handle something and you don't have to, than don't.
I agree with all of this. Elena I think needs to take some responsibility and face some of the consequences of her actions and choices. Same for Damon and Stefan, they both have done some pretty awful things, and I hate that it always has to come down to the triangle and who is worthy of Elena. I very much agree with that part about them putting themselves first, that is how I see it as well. It will be heartbreaking for the brother who is rejected here, and if that brother needs distance to heal, I can find no fault with that. Besides we all know this show will always be about the triangle, if there is some distance and separation it wonít be for long.
I guess my point is, that though I dislike both brothers as romantic interests for her, I can kind of see what the writers are going for her. And I'm not sure how much better Stefan's reaction could have been given his past with Elena and the differences in his personality to Damon's. I also have zero problem with either of them, Stefan or Damon choosing to not be around the person that didn't want to be with them. At the end of the day, they know they can reconnect at any point in their lives. At some point, they need to put themselves first and if they need to heal and know that they can't be around Elena forever, then so be it. Whichever one were to choose to.
Completely agreed. I keep thinking of last season when Elena said she did not want to become a vampire, but the show doesnít seem to address any other choice for her outside of the two vampire brothers?
I completely agree with the last part of your post, Elena shouldn't be with either Salvatore, they're both terrible choices for someone who wants to have a normal life.
Iím just putting this out there, but maybe if the show is consistently not addressing something, maybe that means something?
What I don't like is the way other characters react to his less-than-noble acts.