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Posted Apr 29, 2012 @ 11:33 PM

When I walked out of the movie theater after being dragged to this by the mister, I was like ehhh whatever. After reading all the good reviews for it I became angered inexplicably at so many people liking it.

My first and biggest complaint was that stoner guy was stabbed in the back!! In the back!! Then suddenly he comes saves virgin girl and he has no stab wound?? I basically gave up on this movie at that point. My other complaints in no particular order are:

The ending was ridiculous. It was over the top and yes! Wth with a master switch button that releases all the horrors? Wth kinda sense does that make? And how did they think they were gonna get out alive after doing that?? And why were they shooting at the stoner and virgin when they were supposed to keep the virgin alive??

I was irritated from The very beginning with how virgin girl was prancing in front of open windows in her underwear! Really?? She's virginal yet has no problem flashing the whole neighborhood?

And what kind of gas makes you change your mind?? When the jock said let's stay together then suddenly says to split up! Things need to make a little sense!

The only part I thoroughly enjoyed was the speaker phone gag. It's sad that this is a "horror" movie and the best part was a joke. I found it to be not at all scary, gory OR original.

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Posted Apr 30, 2012 @ 8:54 AM

After reading all the good reviews for it I became angered inexplicably at so many people liking it.

I liked it a lot, enough to see it multiple times. I'm wondering whether people expecting hard core horror may have disliked it more than someone who isn't all that into horror films. It really does seem to be a love it or hate kind of film, judging from a lot of user comments on IMDB and other sites.

My first and biggest complaint was that stoner guy was stabbed in the back!! In the back!! Then suddenly he comes saves virgin girl and he has no stab wound??

Both Marty and Curt were stabbed in the back, and Holden had one of those weird trap like things on a chain hitting him as well. Presumably the knife didn't hit their lungs or other major organs (hand waving going on here). I did notice however, that Marty's shirt did have a rip in the back of it, just where the knife had hit. So they made some attempt at continuity.

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Posted Apr 30, 2012 @ 10:39 AM

I did notice their convenient ability to shake off any and all injury that wasn't immediately fatal. After Chris Hemsworth was stabbed in the shoulder then was able to continue using his arm just find, I kind of just accepted it. The virgin girl was being thrown around by that zombie for like 5 minutes and was covered in blood but after a couple scenes she seemed perfectly find apart from the blood all over her.

Edited by Tableau, Apr 30, 2012 @ 7:20 PM.


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Posted Apr 30, 2012 @ 5:39 PM

It could definitely be the case that hard core horror fans won't like this. That is what I am, a hard core horror fan. It's my favorite genre! :)

I am not the most observant person in the world. I actually miss a TON of details in movies just because I have the attention span of a gnat so for me to catch continuity issues speaks loudly of just how bad it was in this regard. And not to mention they were so glaring that it was distracting during the movie.

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Posted May 1, 2012 @ 3:08 PM

One thing I was wondering about was when the zombie killed Holden. So, okay, the zombie was just chilling in the back while Holden, Dana, and Curt were trying to escape? Why didn't he try attacking them right away? Sigourney Weaver et al got really lucky when the zombie decided to go for Holden instead of Dana.

I also admittedly DGAF about Joss' stable of Whedonverse actors, so I rolled my eyes at the inclusion of Amy Acker and Tom Lenz. I'm not as familiar with Franz Kanz since I think I only watched/skimmed one episode of Dollhouse, so he didn't bug me as much.

I think the one part I really enjoyed was when the Japanese schoolgirls vanquished the evil spirit. Also, as stupid as the 'release all' plot contrivance was, on a visceral level I did like seeing the soldiers go all "Oh, crap" when they realized what had happened. Big monster serpent FTW.

Edited by tip and fall, May 1, 2012 @ 3:09 PM.


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Posted May 1, 2012 @ 3:33 PM

The soldiers' utter ineffectiveness bugged me a bit. I get that they weren't prepared for a full-scale deliberate release of everything in containment at once, but what are squads of soldiers in that place for if not the occasional individual jailbreak? Clearly the sacrificial victims making it down into the inner workings of the complex wasn't an eventuality that was anticipated by the people running the place. I'd have liked to see at least one or two people using weaponry that didn't just bounce off the monsters like nerf darts.

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Posted May 1, 2012 @ 3:41 PM

I never expected nor even wanted it to be an especially scary, 'horrifying' horror movie, but I felt that even as a clever meta commentary on those horror movies, Cabin in the Woods was a bit of a disappointment. I didn't dislike it, but it just didn't have the wit, characterization (Marty is the only one whose name I even bothered remembering) or the brilliant dialogue I'd expect from Whedon. Maybe part of the problem was that the movie couldn't seem to decide whether it was a genuine horror movie with some meta elements, or a meta, makes-you-think satire with some horrific elements, and---for me---in trying to be both, it didn't fully succeed as either. Or maybe I'm just constitutionally incapable of enjoying any project in which Amy Acker appears. ;)

Edited by MsTaken, May 12, 2012 @ 12:58 PM.


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Posted May 1, 2012 @ 3:55 PM

I also admittedly DGAF about Joss' stable of Whedonverse actors, so I rolled my eyes at the inclusion of Amy Acker and Tom Lenz.

Or maybe I'm just constitutionally incapable of enjoying any project in which Amy Acker appears. ;)

I liked Amy Acker as Fred in Angel and nothing else. I agree that repeated exposure to her tends to grate. I never watched Dollhouse, and was unfamiliar with Fran Kranz. I thought he was a nice surprise. Whedon does occasionally go overboard on his stable of recurring actors. On the other hand, I totally wouldn't have minded if Nathan Fillion had appeared :)

Edited by chailey, May 1, 2012 @ 3:56 PM.


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Posted May 2, 2012 @ 12:41 AM

One thing I was wondering about was when the zombie killed Holden. So, okay, the zombie was just chilling in the back while Holden, Dana, and Curt were trying to escape? Why didn't he try attacking them right away? Sigourney Weaver et al got really lucky when the zombie decided to go for Holden instead of Dana.

I figured the zombie got into the RV while they were distracted by the motorcycle jump.

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Posted May 2, 2012 @ 11:13 AM

I thought about that, figuring that maybe he was pulling a Sideshow Bob and hiding underneath the RV, but then why did he get into the RV instead of creeping out after the tasty trio of humans once they got out of the car? Were they meant to be ~smart zombies?

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Posted May 2, 2012 @ 11:10 PM

One thing I was wondering about was when the zombie killed Holden. So, okay, the zombie was just chilling in the back while Holden, Dana, and Curt were trying to escape?


Maybe he got trapped in the tiny RV bathroom. He definitely got in at the cabin because there was a big bloody handprint on the RV door.

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Posted May 3, 2012 @ 4:30 AM

I presumed that when Marty was messing around and hotwiring the lift, that he somehow accidentally glitched the tunnel collapse mechanism.


Thank you, ceindreadh ! Now it makes sense why everyone was so shocked by the error coming from upstairs!

So, any guesses what the failure in 1988 (or was it 1998?) was referring to? I presume a horror film that broke the pattern, but am not enough of a horror fan to be able to name it...

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Posted May 3, 2012 @ 8:49 PM

So, any guesses what the failure in 1988 (or was it 1998?) was referring to?


Ha! My first thought was Alien Resurrection since it supposedly was something Whedon was embarrassed by the results, but that was in 1997.

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Posted May 12, 2012 @ 12:54 PM

Just saw this last night.

"1998" apparently has a ton of crappy horror movies, including H20. Any one of those movies could have been the US's failure to appease the Old Ones.

Every one of those other sacrifices failed, because their intended targets fought back and won without significant loss, apparently. And each was their own cultural horror movies, like the J-Horror in Japan. (A genre that got blown out here in North America with Grudge 2.)

The 'glitch' in the explosives department came about because the techs said that 'we never got any instructions', probably due to, as someone else said, Marty messing around when he found the wiring in the grave.

I can only assume the "Purge System" button was there if the organization ever had to be evacuated and every abomination released for some reason. (You know, as in a prison with a master override that opens all the cell doors at once.) And an awful lot of horrors can soak up punishment.

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Posted May 13, 2012 @ 11:11 AM

Failures were the targets not dying in proper order which is apparently a risk. The virgin is meant to live so if she dies ritual failed. They had multiple ritual sacrifices so if one succeeded it would negate all the other failures. Each country that was doing the ritual was competing with the US and Japan being the only two to actually succeed. The failure they were talking about in 1988 was likely the US losing with the Japanese winning.

As for why the film was made Whedon said "On another level it's a serious critique of what we love and what we don't about horror movies. I love being scared. I love that mixture of thrill, of horror, that objectification/identification thing of wanting definitely for the people to be alright but at the same time hoping they’ll go somewhere dark and face something awful. The things that I don't like are kids acting like idiots, the devolution of the horror movie into torture porn and into a long series of sadistic comeuppances. Drew and I both felt that the pendulum had swung a little too far in that direction"

Were they meant to be ~smart zombies?


They use tools and torture their victims so yes.

Ah did the virgin press one button or was frantically pressing buttons on the control panel? Pressing multiple buttons at the same time can sometimes trigger interesting results if the system wasn't built to operate that way.

One thing about the sacrifice group is that they are warned not to go the cabin. The Harbinger is part of the ritual and they exercised free will in deciding to go there after being warned.

Edited by runningoutofnam, May 13, 2012 @ 11:05 AM.


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Posted May 13, 2012 @ 11:38 AM

The virgin is meant to live so if she dies ritual failed

I thought they said s/he could live or die, but if s/he died it had to be last?

Jesse Williams is FINE.

Now that I got that out of the way, I liked the movie. I like scary movies and the twist with this one was funny. Bradley Whitford and Richard Jenkins were definitely my favorites. I don't care about Joss Whedon; I saw the movie because I heard it was a scary movie with a twist, and I generally enjoy that. There was a collective "Sigourney Weaver??" in my theater when she showed up.

Also, I thought the collapsible coffee cup bong was very clever.

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Posted May 13, 2012 @ 2:24 PM

Turns out there is a companion book with the screenplay as well as how a sequel would be handled.

Plus they list all the monster scenarios and explain what Kevin is.

http://www.amazon.co...35684747&sr=8-1

http://img.gawkerass...pg/original.jpg is a pic of the whiteboard from the movie and what dept was betting on which monster scenario.

My favorite from the whiteboards.
Sexy witches. Might be a fun way to die.
Angry Molesting tree. Evil dead series reference. Plus certain Japanese hentai horror series and films.
Scarecrow folk. Saw a movie titled Scarecrows released in 1988. It was quite interesting.
Clowns. Truly the most hideous abominations to walk the Earth. Maybe these ones are from Outer Space.
Deadites another Evil Dead reference.

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Posted May 21, 2012 @ 4:59 PM

If the Big Red Button was absolutely necessary, they could have had a guard who was assigned to never leave that room. Had some sort of emergency plan in the event that a monster gets loose in the facility. Put some sort of monitors into the kids to track their life signs. So while the cabin part is taking apart the horror genre, the downstairs part is taking apart the "supervillain / evil company" genre.

There was a guard. They told him to kill Dana and Marty when they came off the elevator. The firm didn't know about the zombie parts that would distract him.


And what kind of gas makes you change your mind?? When the jock said let's stay together then suddenly says to split up! Things need to make a little sense!

He didn't change his mind, the controllers shot out some gas that made him change his mind.



I was irritated from The very beginning with how virgin girl was prancing in front of open windows in her underwear! Really?? She's virginal yet has no problem flashing the whole neighborhood?

"We work with what we got."

I didn't quite know what to expect. I loved it except the end when they met up with Sigourney Weaver. It fit, I guess, but seemed a bit forced. Another movie like it is Monsters, Inc.

Chris Hemsworth is so much hotter than Liam. Jesse was great, too.

I don't have any problem with Amy Acker and Tom Lenk showing up.

Maybe Kevin was the guy with the saw blades in his head. He was holding an egg similar to the one Curt was playing with.

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Posted May 21, 2012 @ 6:29 PM

Kevin according to the visual book (which details more of the monsters, and has the screenplay plus concept on how a sequel would work) states Kevin looks like a best buy employee who is able to disapear in the blink of the eye and leave huge amounts of blood behind. Serial killer.

Saw blades in his head is a Hellraiser franchise homage. What he was holding in his hand is the Cabin in the Woods version of the puzzle box that summons Pinhead in the Hellraiser movies.

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Posted Jun 19, 2012 @ 10:28 PM

I saw this on Monday for my birthday, so I'm glad that it lived up to the years of anxious waiting by being awesome. There were so many fantastic little gags. And holy shit, I love that it went as far as it did. I love a good bit of comedic violence, and I think the last twenty minutes is the first time I've seen it on that scale. I also kind of love that they destroyed the world, instead of Marty nobly sacrificing himself, and I can understand why he didn't. All and sundry trying to force you into that position, and then requesting that you follow through when they fail, would make you much more inclined to resist - and anyway, IMO it wasn't just about that, but more whether it was worth saving the world if it meant regularly sacrificing innocent people, which is a very Whedony theme. Marty living was a way of breaking that cycle.

My favourite from the whiteboard was that there were both ordinary Witches and Sexy Witches. Also, some of the departments were leaning awfully hard on the fourth wall, such as "Internal Logic," or "Story Department." Hee.

I was happy that Amy Acker and Fran Kranz were in this, as Claire and Topher were probably my favourite Dollhouse characters. I don't mind actors being re-used at all so long as the output is good. Lin sort of reminded me of Claire, actually, in that she felt shame about what they did but wasn't doing anything about it, except Lin wasn't like that because
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. They even made a point of her doing the exact same things Sitterson and Hadley were doing, like the betting or the drinking. And Marty had some very Topher-ish dialogue. I loved that when he was down in the basement, he was looking at a film strip, being the guy who recognised the meta. I wonder what monster that would've called up.

ETA: I can forgive the Big Red Button to a degree, because I strongly got the impression that the department was meant to be kind of incompetent, or at least complacent and overly confident.

Edited by furrylump, Jun 19, 2012 @ 10:40 PM.


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Posted Jun 20, 2012 @ 11:48 AM

It was the 90+% rating on Rotten Tomatoes that convinced me to see this. I was entertained by the movie but I am surprised at the rave reviews.

the fact that the ancient ones absolutely had to have those four (or five) people die to be a fitting sacrifice, and wouldn't accept the fact that hundreds of people were being slaughtered in the compound as a sacrifice was an eyeroller.


Don't forget that the specifics ended up being more like guidelines because the "virgin" wasn't a virgin anyway. Before Sigourney was told and shrugged it off as irrelevant, I thought the whole not-virginal virgin was going to be the big twist; that the compound folks didn't know she wasn't a virgin, 'cast' her in that role and then all hell was unleashed when they realize, too late, that she wasn't pure.

And when the stupid main characters decided to let hell be unleashed on the world and the all of humanity be brutally killed rather than kill the stoner, I just threw my hands up. You stupid fuckers. Stupid, selfish, ridiculous fuckers.


I honestly was thinking it was going to end up being a test: if she killed the guy, it would doom us and NOT killing him would save the world. But...not so much.

Chris Hemsworth was cute and charming


He was (and I love the short hair) but I did a double take at his shirtlessness. He looked way less muscular than in Thor. How quickly did he bulk up? My goodness.

As soon as I saw the whiteboard, I was hoping i'd get to see some Scarecrow Folk.


Oh goodness. I need a freeze-frame of that whiteboard. I sped-read as best as I could but didn't catch them all. What I did catch was hilarious. I also loved the distinction between "zombies" and "inbred hillbilly zombies" or whatever. Heh.

Seriously, you have this elaborate system that contains all these horrible monsters--why the hell would you build in a System Release button (or whatever it was) to set them all loose?


The only reason I could come up with was to have the monsters fight the ancient one(s).

Then the workers actually sign up for their monster on a giant white board, thus choosing their death.


I just thought it was the betting options for the kids' deaths?

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Posted Jun 20, 2012 @ 9:32 PM

I just did a search for the white board image (see White board )...and some of the unpicked options were cracking me up.

Dragonbat - very specific (and also something I would like to see)
Reptilius - please tell me this is a Godzilla-like entity
And...is that "angry molesting tree"?

I hope that the DVD includes stills depicting each of the possible death scenarios.

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Posted Jun 20, 2012 @ 9:45 PM

The "Angry Molesting Tree" is from The Evil Dead. It was quite angry and very molesty.

I know we saw a bat come out of one of the elevators and then slam that guy into a wall (thus providing an escape for our intrepid heroes.) But, I can't remember if it had any dragon features.

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Posted Jun 20, 2012 @ 10:11 PM

I just did a search for the white board image (see White board )...and some of the unpicked options were cracking me up.

Dragonbat - very specific (and also something I would like to see)
Reptilius - please tell me this is a Godzilla-like entity
And...is that "angry molesting tree"?


I'm partial to the Sugarplum Fairy myself, hee.

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Posted Sep 21, 2012 @ 12:36 PM

I got this from Redbox and liked it so much much I went to Target and bought it the next day. Multiple viewings allows you to see things you forgot, like Marty's rant on the way to the cabin about how bound up and controlled society is, which explains his decision at the end. And how the underground shook when Marty "died", which was actually an indication that something was wrong but the bad guys didn't pick up on it. Joss tried to explain/justify the "system purge" scenario in the commentary, but I really didn't understand it. Something about all the switches the Virgin flipped before she hit the button, like she was bypassing something (although that would have made more sense for Marty to do). I just fanwank that the bad guys just weren't prepared for a worst case scenario and panicked and that's why everything went pear-shaped. Plus, I just loved the cheerful "Ding!" the elevators made before releasing each wave of monsters. I laughed when Sigourny Weaver showed up as the Director since that's exactly what she did in Paul. The only little thing I hated was the bird flying into the force-field at the beginning. The motorcylce jump would have been much better if that had been a surprise.

When that one guard was ineffectually shooting the Clown, I yelled "Aim for the nose! Didn't you see Killer Klowns from Outer Space?"

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Posted Sep 22, 2012 @ 4:39 PM

When that one guard was ineffectually shooting the Clown, I yelled "Aim for the nose! Didn't you see Killer Klowns from Outer Space?"


You are not alone lol. I was doing the same thing.

I saw this with my nephew on a Tuesday the week it came out. We were the only ones in the theater and we both made a point of not finding out anything about it before we saw it. We had a blast. When the unicorn came out and stabbed the guy with its horn - we were shouting and laughing our butts off. Probably the best time we had together at a movie.

I knew that I would buy this when it came out and I was thrilled to find the Blu-Ray for 20 bucks. Catching all the little things as I rewatch is a blast. Probably my favorite movie of the year so far (The Avengers is a close second) but I am a huge horror geek so I am the target audience.

Plus - Merman!

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Posted Dec 2, 2012 @ 11:24 AM

Well, I'm not a big Joss Whedon fan at all, so I really went into this with a lot of skepticism. His shows taught me that if I was absolutely hating a show, just quit watching and don't hang around and make yourself miserable. If he hadn't done a great job with The Avengers I wouldn't have bothered to even get this DVD. But count me in among those that absolutely LOVED this movie, every second of it, even the logic flaws. Any movie that can have me going "Yeah, end the world!" along with the Marty character is a-ok in my book. Not to mention, Jesse Williams and Chris Hemsworth were looking GOOD in this movie. Sigourney Weaver appearing at the end just made my toes curl up in delight.

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Posted Dec 8, 2012 @ 7:37 PM

It's movie finally opened over here this week and I went to see it yesterday.

There was a detail I noticed, that I'm not sure if it was intentional or a coincidence. Over the course of the ritual, the sacrifices exercise their free will exactly 3 times:

  • After being warned by the Harbinger that they're headed towards danger they must choose to continue.
  • They must choose to go into the cellar.
  • once in the cellar they must choose to use one of the artifacts, which is the "transgression" they're supposedly being punished for.

One thing about the sacrifice group is that they are warned not to go the cabin. The Harbinger is part of the ritual and they exercised free will in deciding to go there after being warned.

One sign of how experienced the Organization is at doing its thing is the fact that they get over the need to give the sacrifices fair warning, by making sure the Harbinger is the creepiest most untrustworthy-looking motherfucker available.

I also found it interesting that the Harbinger, the only member of the Organization who has actual physical contact with the sacrifices is also the one who apparently takes the ritual aspect of things the most seriously.

Edited by ElymianDucat, Dec 8, 2012 @ 7:43 PM.


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Posted Jan 4, 2013 @ 2:05 AM

The speakerphone gag still makes me laugh.