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[iscoffy]

When Stokes learns a violent man he helped put in prison is going to have his conviction overturned, the CSI race to find evidence to prove that he's guilty or else he's going to be released.

First things first, of course Finn is great at softball, getting a slo-mo potential homerun that she hamstrings in order to flirt creepily with Enrique Murciano (sorry, but he seemed about twelve in comparison to her). Of course, because she's amazing at everything, apparently.

Secondly, Nick's hair. Better than recently, but still very strange.

As to the case, I'm not sure why they were revisiting the "Vega was inexplicably a serial killer" thing, because I would have been happy to forget it. The characters, from Nick to Brass to magically appearing step-son, seemed like they didn't really get it, either.

What is the likelihood that all that evidence would still be around after that amount of time? Or that a drop of blood would survive a dog's digestive system and be uncontaminated enough to pull DNA years later?

And finally, can someone explain to me what the heck kind of softball they were playing at the end, because the cops tried to throw Finn out at home base and she slid and was safe, so apparently Henry didn't hit a home run out of the park based on Finn's super tip. So the other side now has the ball at home plate and Henry is still running and then being hoisted up, champion style, when in reality, he would have been tagged out easily. Unless they were only going to four points, or...? I get that they wanted the end scene of Henry doing well and someone sliding into home plate is more exciting to show, but couldn't they have had Henry do that part and not Finn? That at least would have made sense, and wouldn't have left us with Finn again being randomly amazing.

Oh, and apparently no one cares about what happens to the guy who was in jail for 8 years for something he didn't do. Softball triumph and creepily flirting Finn are a better endcap than justice!

Edited by iscoffy, Apr 12, 2012 @ 12:32 PM.

[Diane M]

Oh, and apparently no one cares about what happens to the guy who was in jail for 8 years for something he didn't do. Softball triumph and creepily flirting Finn are a better endcap than justice!

That bothered me too. I would like to have seen the victim's reaction to the news that she was wrong and, also, one of the team telling the man in jail he would be freed.

[BooksRule]

I also wanted to know about the innocent guy that was in prison and what happened to the woman that mistakenly identified him as her attacker, but also:

What about Henry (is that his name)? Finn tells him that there is a hot girl that was watching him, so that he would get a hit. However, I'm assuming that Finn made it up so that the CSIs could win the game. Did she think of the consequences? What about poor Henry's self-esteem when he finds out that she lied to him, and used him and that there was no hot girl? I think that she only considers what will work 'at the moment' and not about the 'later' and how it affects others.

And, I still want to know her connection with D.B. (Is she his sister? His sister-in-law? If so, shouldn't his son have called her 'Aunt Finn/Jules'?)

[Selianth]

And finally, can someone explain to me what the heck kind of softball they were playing at the end, because the cops tried to throw Finn out at home base and she slid and was safe, so apparently Henry didn't hit a home run out of the park based on Finn's super tip. So the other side now has the ball at home plate and Henry is still running and then being hoisted up, champion style, when in reality, he would have been tagged out easily. Unless they were only going to four points, or...?

I assumed that it was the bottom of the last inning. So the score was tied 3-3 when Henry came to bat, and all they had to do was score one run to get the walk-off. It didn't matter that Henry would be tagged out at second because they just won the game.

Also, it's sad that this was the most memorable part of the episode, besides the weirdness of the lady who keeps everything her dog ate in a display case, even 8 years later.

[misterbfd]

I rolled my eyes a LOT this episode, and also said: "How conveeeeeeenient!" several times. This one seemed more suitable to "CSI: Miami" than the flagship.

[Ocean Chick]

So... we have super-duper blood evidence that survives the acid in a dog's stomach. We have a super-duper car battery that starts up the first time, after 7 years sitting in the police impound. We have a super-duper CSI that not only can play awesome softball, but who can also teach the obvious sadsack of the team how to hit for the boards.

And totally YES about wanting to see the apology to the wrongly accused man who lost 8 years of his life.

Still not on board with Finn - she's too Mary-Sueish. Still liking DB and Morgan, as well as the rest of the old gang. Missed Sara - I would have liked to hear her comments on the softball game, now that she shares her spouse's appreciation of the sport.

[bunchofgrapes]

So... we have super-duper blood evidence that survives the acid in a dog's stomach. We have a super-duper car battery that starts up the first time, after 7 years sitting in the police impound. We have a super-duper CSI that not only can play awesome softball, but who can also teach the obvious sadsack of the team how to hit for the boards.

I agree with you on all of these super-duper points but I have to add Nick and his super-duper smell recall. I get remembering a smell that reminds you of something significant but Nick deals with dead bodies and crime scenes every day. For him to so clearly remember a smell from yet another crime scene after 7 years? I buy the car starting before I buy that.

Still not on board with Finn - she's too Mary-Sueish.

On the whole I like Finn but this episode tested it. I agree, her whole super-duper softball player attitude reeked of Mary Sue.

The two things I did like? Brass in what looked to be his motorcycle duds and Steve McQueen Persol sunglasses. He really needs to lose the suit more often.

[catray]

Nick's hair is now gelled within an inch of its life, but I'll take it over the crappy Bieber shag he was sporting earlier. Not perfect, but much better.

Finn is amazing, ok I get it... whatever. Did she really need the baseball slo-mo? I was rolling my eyes. Still don't like her all that much.

I could have done with less baseball and more case in this episode-- how did they convince the victim that the man she thought attacked her actually didn't? Did she recant her accusation? What about seeing the man who had been wrongly accused released?

I agree with you on all of these super-duper points but I have to add Nick and his super-duper smell recall. I get remembering a smell that reminds you of something significant but Nick deals with dead bodies and crime scenes every day. For him to so clearly remember a smell from yet another crime scene after 7 years? I buy the car starting before I buy that.

Of course, it's all subjective, but olfaction is an extremely powerful sense. Good/bad scents make a lasting impression on us and can trigger memories, so I actually don't find it that surprising that going back to the crime scene triggered Nick's "scent memory" as it were-- he didn't remember the scent when they were talking about the crime at the lab, he only remembered it when they went back to the crime scene, so it works for me. Especially since this seemed to be a pretty distinct odor, despite all the crime scenes Nick has been at.

Maureen from Centerstage was the jogging victim!! Sorry, had to get that out of my system.

[BlamBaby]

As always, the only thing I noticed was Greg. He was absolutely when he yelled at Henry, "Do it for science!"

[mrs fouldsy]

Maureen from Centerstage was the jogging victim!! Sorry, had to get that out of my system.

Thank you!!! I had just come to ask who that was. As soon as I heard her voice it was familiar, but I just could not place her. And it definitely makes sense why mrfouldsy would have no clue.

[peeayebee]

The characters, from Nick to Brass to magically appearing step-son...

Oh heck. I thought he was a regular on the show, but I obviously confused him with his role on Without a Trace, which I haven't watched in years.

The thing that bugged me about the softball game was Finn having to slide into home. What was she doing when Henry hit the ball waaay out to the fence -- sitting on third base? If it was two outs, she should have started to run as soon as Henry hit it. If it wasn't, then she should have at least taken a lead, or can't you do that in softball?

Kind of a boring ep. It was weird how mad DB got at Finn after the first game. Apparently her sexuality has created problems in the past, though I still think DB and she did not have a sexual relationship.

[SVNBob]

It was weird how mad DB got at Finn after the first game. Apparently her sexuality has created problems in the past,

I don't think it was her sexuality per se, but, from his perspective, the fact that she was putting her personal desires (flirting with a cute guy) over the team (scoring the win). It wasn't until the re-play at the end that D.B realized what she was actually doing (passing the hero spot to Henry, putting someone else on the team ahead of her) and that the flirting was a welcome bonus.

[merylinkid]

Actually he came across as jealous. He looked pissed with she walked off with the cop at the end. I don't think DB and Finn has a relationship in the past, otherwise the son would not have greeted her so enthusiatically. But, they are trying make it look like there is sexual tension there. I wish they hadn't gone with the "mysterious past" between the two route. Just make them old colleagues, knew she was looking for a job, they needed someone since they were shorthanded with Catherine leaving so he hired her. No fuss, no muss.

At least we got see the other CSIs doing something this episode.

[peeayebee]

Actually he came across as jealous. He looked pissed with she walked off with the cop at the end.

At first I thought he looked pissed, but at the very end while he looked at them, he smiled a bit, so I don't think he really was irritated or jealous.

I just feel so certain that the show is doing a misdirection about their relationship that I'm getting pissed. Just make the revelation already, show!

[linderhill]

finally got to see the episode. I agree with everyone on the Riley-I-mean-Fin comments. I am not interested in the least about her ultra seekrit background with DB. I'm not in the least interested in Fin. I actually missed Sara and that is a first for me.

The biggest problem I had though was with the magic blood spot that survived the dog's stomach acids. It really threw me right out of the story.

[jmilazzo]

We got around to watching this last night. I almost had to force my husband to watch it (as opposed to one of the other 50 shows we have recorded). I think we may take this off of our DVR next season. I like the characters & want to keep up with them but the storylines have just gotten ridiculous. So the perp was a multiple murderer who killed random people out of rage? He's all pissed off about something, sees someone around & then beats them to death? I'm pretty sure that beating someone like that is messy so the witness who saw him right after the murder in the alley was close enough to recognize him but couldn't see blood on him? He attacked the woman during the day in a park -- no one saw blood on him after that?

What I found ironic was that the innocent guy was convicted on circumstantial evidence. He happened to have had an argument with this woman, had wood splinters in his hand, & been burning stuff. That's essentially the same kind of thing they had on the perp -- they had wood with that invisiskin stuff on it & his keys that were eaten by a DOG that was in the park that day. The dog could have picked up the keys before getting to the woman, dropped them when he saw the woman & that's how the blood got on them, then picked them up & eaten them when the owner was calling 911.

What happened to the great stories & cases from the first few seasons.

[John Potts]

When they re-opened the case, I was so hoping that it would turn out that the guy was in fact innocent (at least of that crime). But no - "The prosecution is always right, and if it wasn't for those damn defence atourneys and their nitpicky insistence on following procedure there would be no criminals on the streets at all!" That applies even where we have a dirty cop who beat a confession out of the suspect. The reason why dirty cops are bad is not because they rough up the guilty, it's because they'll fit up whoever is easiest for them, irrespective of whether they're guilty or not. OK, they did prove that one guy actually had been wrongfully convicted (and jailed for 8 years!) but they made so little of that (did the conviction even get quashed?) because they had to fit in two softball scenes.

Don't quite understand why Enrique Murciano couldn't be playing Danny Taylor (his Without a Trace character) given that the two series share a Universe, even if he was only now revealing his relationship to the late Det. Vega (since I think he said he was his stepfather, the Sam could conceivably married his mother since WaT ended).