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[FrogsRule]

When the CSI team is called in to investigate a man who is shot at point-blank range in a local casino, they shut down the entire building to find their killer.

I thought the above synopsis was pretty weak...

Checked imdb.com, and they actually used different actors for the "triplets" (although at this writing, they haven't listed the name of brother #3).

Edited by FrogsRule, Apr 5, 2012 @ 5:20 AM.

[Miles Prower]

Well this was bullshit. First the boy kills one of his brothers and then he doesn't want to rat out his other two brothers, because "they are the only family he has". Sure...

[draiocht]

Sure, made sense to me -- seeing as how he was a kid, and kids are often times hyper-intelligent murderous psychopaths.

[edit: though, the psychopathy was presumably genetic, not strictly age-related, this time.]


Mandy is always welcome!

Finn is... uhm, 2 scenes past bearable or so? All criticisms from previous threads still applicable. (3 lab techs in this episode. I was wishing their new lab tech for firearms/ballistics would show up, but presumably spending time on other projects.)

Edited by draiocht, Apr 5, 2012 @ 10:33 AM.

[staveDarsky]

Checked imdb.com, and they actually used different actors for the "triplets" (although at this writing, they haven't listed the name of brother #3).

They really are twins. If you read their IMDB bios, you'll see one changed his last name. CSI files did publish the cast list. One played Xavier and also the dead quad. The other played Jordan. Previously, they were in the movie Benjamin Button as twins Rick and Vic.

I did find this quad story too far out to be believable. And I figured as soon as Sara went back to see the kid that he'd turn out to be the 4th brother. They over-emphasized a little too strongly that none of them shared birth dates so a big delay between the 3rd and 4th boy was rather obvious. Meh.


Nice to see Mandy and Archie in this one. Greg, Hodges and SuperDave were all absent in this ep and it gave a little more screen time to Nick and Sara, which is always a good thing.

I notice Nick has yet to do more than just a cameo in one of Finn's scenes and it's making the over-use of Finn really noticeable since she's pretty much only with the other new characters - DB and Morgan.

[HurricaneVal]

This plot was a stretch, but I watch TV for entertainment so I'm willing to suspend my disbelief. I was really feeling for Archie though! Poor guy, even my eyes were scratchy in sympathy for him...

[iscoffy]

Finn was supposed to be a blood spatter expert, right? Not a firearms-bullet-trajectory-antibody-profile-everything expert. I realize that Shue probably expects some amount of screen time and not every case can significantly involve blood spatter, but really, did they not learn from Super Ray?

And sure, you all look alike, won a free trip and brought your orange polos to Vegas! I guess this is the sociopathic plan of a pre-teen who wants better kicks and video games, so...

So did one of the other quads film the suicide video? Didn't seem like the dead quad was too interested in playing that role.

[merylinkid]

Last week's episode was a rerun with Catherine. I was struck by how low key her relationship with DB was. They talked, they worked well together. Finn's character, despite having a history with DB, has a much more rough relationship with him. They do not mesh well as a team. Also, it seems TPTB are trying to make her too much of a "maverick" to explain her constant rough edges with DB. Only problem is, we already have a maverick -- Sara Sidle. As evidenced yet again last night. Nick tells her to hang tight and wait for back up. So she pulls her gun. Which is fine. Except then she follows the noise to see if it is the bad guy. No, you wait. If the bad guy shows up, you are in place to shoot him. You don't go looking for him. Ugghh. Never did like Sara and now we have Sara 2.0 in Finn.

[peeayebee]

I did find this quad story too far out to be believable.

That's because you have a brain.

And sure, you all look alike, won a free trip and brought your orange polos to Vegas!

I figure the three wore the same shirt to make things more confusing for the police. I'm not sure I understand all the details. For instance, when CSI found the first orange-shirted guy, he was hiding in the closet. Why? And why was his friend covering for him? I think that this orange-shirt brother said something about a bar fight, so was that supposed to be why he was hiding?

Also, I was positive that this guy and the shooter did not look exactly alike. I thought their eyebrows were quite different, and I was puzzled why no one else saw the difference. But I guess my eyes were just playing tricks.

So did one of the other quads film the suicide video? Didn't seem like the dead quad was too interested in playing that role.

I think in the flashback with the young brother in the room, you see one of the older brothers sitting in a chair as if he'd just recorded the video.

I thought the young brother looked like David Mitchell.

The nightclub where Sarah pulled her gun looked familiar. I thought it was used in another ep. If so, that shouldn't be a surprise. They've probably used lots of locations more than once.

[LisaM]

Still can't figure out why the first guy was hiding in the closet...and was his roommate in on it too?

[yrnamehere]

Of course they were all evil, what do you expect when you clone Hitler!*

I know they totally lampshaded The Boys from Brazil so we would know that they know that we know where the idea of the plot came from, but all I could think when Avery was revealed as the literal bad seed was he looked way more like Hitler than the kid with obvious dyed hair who played him in the movie.

If you haven't seen The Boys from Brazil, the best part is the completely over the top old-man-fight between Gregory Peck and Laurence Olivier. It is hilariously cringeworthy.

*I know they weren't supposed to be Hitler. Just your standard sooper sekrit evil quads (see also CSI:Miami's oh so classic Triple Threat for another variation on the theme).

Edited by yrnamehere, Apr 5, 2012 @ 8:01 PM.

[BlamBaby]

I wonder how many people have to die/leave before Greg gets screen time...

[iscoffy]

I figure the three wore the same shirt to make things more confusing for the police.

I get that "brilliant" part of the plan, I'm just unclear why they thought anyone would buy that identical people would be accidentally in the same casino, wearing identical clothing. Maybe they should have arranged for a "bring your polo and stubble to Vegas" day instead.

Also, I was positive that this guy and the shooter did not look exactly alike.

I agree-- the 97% facial recognition hits seemed to reveal a few flaws in the program.

[CoyoteBlue]

Also, it seems TPTB are trying to make her too much of a "maverick" to explain her constant rough edges with DB. Only problem is, we already have a maverick -- Sara Sidle.

She also has that smug-ass smirk for the most banal "achievements" like Sara occasionally had that turns on the haterade in me. When Finn figured out where the second bullet went, she pranced and preened with that annoying smirk like it wasn't the simplest of things to deduce. One of those drunks behind the tape could figure out that the bullet might have hit a machine behind the victim. But no! Finn's a geeeenius!

I DO NOT NEED SARA 2.0. It's bad enough OriginalSara came back in the first place.

[FrogsRule]

staveDarsky, thanks! I didn't read far enough in their bios.

yrnamehere, I had forgotten that CSI: Miami show. Usually I cannot stand CSIM. But this is a rare case when they did a basic plot better than plain old CSI. Gawd, I hate saying that out loud.

Re the orange shirts: I can understand why they would wear them during the initial murder. But wouldn't someone with a third grade education know that once the initial murder is passed, you wouldn't want to wear orange? Maybe all wear the same thing to keep the mind games going, but orange? Really. You should at least pretend to be innocent and evade detection. And that includes changing clothes.

Finally... so the kid's dad was "cold" after his mother passed? But he didn't know his "siblings" at all. Did he think he would buy a new family? Clearly he didn't want to go live with the cousins in Wisconsin.

Yes, adolescents don't think clearly. So were the writers adolescents too?

[linderhill]

"She also has that smug-ass smirk for the most banal "achievements" like Sara occasionally had that turns on the haterade in me. When Finn figured out where the second bullet went, she pranced and preened with that annoying smirk like it wasn't the simplest of things to deduce. One of those drunks behind the tape could figure out that the bullet might have hit a machine behind the victim. But no! Finn's a geeeenius!"

I DO NOT NEED SARA 2.0. It's bad enough OriginalSara came back in the first place.

thanks, CoyoteBlue, those are exactly my feelings. I didn't mind Dr. Ray when he first started, it was only when he started taking over the show and became Sooper CSI, despite lack of knowledge and experience that he bugged. Fin, no, no appeal there whatsoever. Sara is tough enough to take now that she's returned but no, we don't need "SARA 2.0."

[draiocht]

I DO NOT NEED SARA 2.0. It's bad enough OriginalSara came back in the first place.

Ha! Makes me wonder about DB's intent. He was brought in to fix a team that was off the rails. So he hired Finn, because... he thought his job wasn't difficult enough? He thought she'd fit in? (The writer's have her hanging onto DB most of the time, so no, she doesn't.) He needed somebody to understand his odd tangential stories? I don't know.

Also, I was positive that this guy and the shooter did not look exactly alike.

I agree-- the 97% facial recognition hits seemed to reveal a few flaws in the program.

I'll agree too, but I figured that was just because the audience had a good view of the shooter. The CSIs might've had some difficulty by relying on a security camera. (Supposedly, current face recognition software is rather magical, though I'd be unsure to say as magical as an observant human as was on 60 Minutes a few weeks back.)

[Kel Varnsen]

Sure, made sense to me -- seeing as how he was a kid, and kids are often times hyper-intelligent murderous psychopaths.

I thought the craziest thing was that the kid managed to withdraw $150,000 from his dad's bank account without his dad even noticing. I know he was rich, but you would think that he would check his statement every once and awhile, or his bank might give him a heads up about a large amount of money leaving his account.

[Trini Girl]

Even though they put their own spin on it, I mainly disappointed that they stole a story idea from Miami, because THAT episode was ridiculously stupid.

[John Potts]

I wish we'd see DB (who I like) interacting with somebody that isn't Finn (not that I particularly dislike Finn, but isn't Nick officially his No.2?). She is very much Ray 2.0, an expert brought in for one field who seems to be some sort of CSI savant.

And Whaddaya know, the kid did it (again)! Seriously, it would be more surprising now if they introduced a kid and it turned out that he was actually innocent.

iscoffy And sure, you all look alike, won a free trip and brought your orange polos to Vegas!

I figured the "Free Trip" was a cover story and that they were aware of exactly why they had been brought to Vegas.

[iscoffy]

I figured the "Free Trip" was a cover story and that they were aware of exactly why they had been brought to Vegas.

I get why they said they won a free trip and all had orange polos. What I don't get is why they (or "mastermind kid," I guess) would think anyone would believe it.