Jump to content

18-5: "Beverly Johnson" 2012.03.28


This topic has been archived. This means that you cannot reply to this topic.

56 replies to this topic

#31

BDArizona

BDArizona

    Fanatic

  • Gender:Female
  • Location:Tucson, AZ
  • Interests:Left wing politics, sci-fi, sports, competitive reality shows

Posted Mar 29, 2012 @ 2:25 PM

And Shut Up Kelly!!! You are a miserable bitch. Even when you're sort of right, I want to disagree out of spite.

There were a couple of times she made comments that I wanted to agree with. Then, I realized who made them, and felt horrible for agreeing.

BNTM should use former ANTM contestants and make a mockery of them or I suppose they could stick it to Tyra by taking the highroad but that just wouldn't be as amusing.

BNTM only exists because of Tyra and the U.S. show's producers. I seriously doubt they want to stick it to the people who created the franchise. I don't think they really care about how the British contestants do on the American version, anyway. They're done with most of them, and none of the girls actually won their seasons of BNTM. I suspect they've already done some shortchanging of some of these girls to begin with.

#32

Sour K

Sour K

    Loyal Viewer

Posted Mar 29, 2012 @ 2:44 PM

I am so proud to see the traditions of my country captured on film. As I watched this, I experienced many fond memories of standing in cold, nondescript alleyways, and of dousing foreigners in leaves and maple syrup.

Wow. Those prizes. Were. The. Worst. Right? A freaking rodeo? J's clothing line? Ugh.

Ha. I've been to the stampede before, and I guess it's sort of interesting in a way, but I was really underwhelmed when he announced that as the prize. The clothing prize was almost as bad as when everyone got clothes from the Kardashian line.

Kelly was surprisingly tolerable for me, and I even agree with her on some point. BUT, get rid for her next cycle thank you very much.

Yeah. I think they might have made an effort to show her giving more balanced criticism after all the blowback over the last few weeks. I would still rather have someone else as judge. As others said last week, why can't Miss Jay come back?

I kind of hate how the girls who never get emotional and vulnerable are always accused by the judges of being cold, distant, and not in touch with their 'real' selves, while those who DO allow themselves to be emotional and vulnerable in front of the judges are derided for being screwed-up "messes" whose heads 'aren't in the game.' There's just a maddening lack of consistency in how the judges judge, at least IMO.

Even when people cry, the judges seem to choose randomly between saying, "I love your passion and your spirit, and I want to see the emotion you showed us today on your film!" and "You need to pull yourself together and stop snivelling!" It's really inconsistent, and it just seems to depend on who speaks first. Nigel hates it when people cry, and apparantly he has an ally in Kelly this season.

Also, this was the first time I'd noticed that Nigel moved over to sit beside Kelly when the results of the judging were being announced (probably because of the camera angles), and there was this weird moment where they were both doing jazz hands in the background. I don't want them to have an alliance.

#33

chocolatine

chocolatine

    Fanatic

Posted Mar 29, 2012 @ 3:11 PM

I'm not an art expert, but wasn't it Gauguin who was famous for painting "exotic" women? And yes, "métisse" means "woman of mixed descent", it has no relation to the painter Matisse. And race being a sensitive subject in France, I don't believe that word is used very often in polite/professional conversation.

In some of the earlier episode threads someone mentioned that Seymone looks like Tracey Morgan in drag, and this episode I couldn't un-see it. It's a travesty that she's getting so much praise all of a sudden.

I actually liked Ashley a lot despite (or perhaps in part because of?!) understanding only, like, a fifth of what she says.


I understood everything she said and I still liked her. She seemed like the most down-to-earth girl there.

Edited by chocolatine, Mar 29, 2012 @ 3:13 PM.


#34

Shprintze

Shprintze

    Channel Surfer

Posted Mar 29, 2012 @ 3:39 PM

What is up with T-Rex telling the Brit girls they all have a future as "presenters" (can be used as a compliment OR a criticism - WTF?). Is there are huge demand for "presenters" in the UK and if so, has that demand failed to reach our shores because none of the US girls in ANTM are told they have "presenter" potential. I know it's not the the same as spokesmodel because as we've been reminded a million times, not only is that one of the prizes but ... Blah blah blah. I really hope it doesn't mean escort girl because for once I can say, those UK girls deserve better! I hope they smash the pot ledom out of the music challenge, even if they are just presenters!

Ps to add I studied French in college and grad school, lived in France, and the word Kelly used is sort of the equivalent to "mulatto" which while a technical term meaning mixed black and white, in modern times is completely pejorative and unless you were studying linguistics, which I'm just going to assume Dr. Cutone is not, is an ugly ugly word. But in her case, I think it was done out of trying to sound more worldly and smarter that she I. Would have love to have seen the divine Ms. Johnson slap her face.

#35

Nutjob

Nutjob

    Stalker

Posted Mar 29, 2012 @ 4:02 PM

What is up with T-Rex telling the Brit girls they all have a future as "presenters" (can be used as a compliment OR a criticism - WTF?). Is there are huge demand for "presenters" in the UK and if so, has that demand failed to reach our shores because none of the US girls in ANTM are told they have "presenter" potential. I know it's not the the same as spokesmodel because as we've been reminded a million times, not only is that one of the prizes but ... Blah blah blah. I really hope it doesn't mean escort girl because for once I can say, those UK girls deserve better! I hope they smash the pot ledom out of the music challenge, even if they are just presenters!


"Presenter" is what they call t.v. hosts in the UK. In other words, they're more Cat Deeley than Tyra. Or something.

#36

Xazeal

Xazeal

    Fanatic

Posted Mar 29, 2012 @ 4:09 PM

Sophie looked amazing walking for Pink Tartan. She is awesomeness. Probably my favorite hamster since Jenah in terms of overall entertainment value. However, I get a very strong feeling that she's going to bring back the old tradition of the runner-up being shown last in the opening.
This ep was almost enjoyable, actually. But Eboni and Seymone need to go. Now.

#37

Le Prisme

Le Prisme

    Just Tuned In

Posted Mar 29, 2012 @ 4:24 PM

I'm francophone and I'm pretty sure "matissée" doesn't mean anything. Métissée indeed means of mixed race but it doesn't have anything to do with the painter Matisse. Unless she has so much culture that she knows words that are not officially existing (which would be surprising), I don't know what Kelly Cutrone is smoking.

#38

phoenix780

phoenix780

    Fanatic

Posted Mar 29, 2012 @ 4:54 PM

Wow. Those prizes. Were. The. Worst. Right? A freaking rodeo? J's clothing line? Ugh.

I hadn't thought about it, but it kind of reminds me of an old South Park episode where a couple on a game show wins a trip to Cow Days. It really was odd, but maybe the thought was that a rodeo is a part of American culture, the Old West and all that. So it plays into the Brits vs. Americans thing.

I thought it was a copout that two girls won. Wasn't it supposed to go to whoever did the best?

#39

psychoticstate

psychoticstate

    Fanatic

Posted Mar 29, 2012 @ 5:02 PM

I am so proud to see the traditions of my country captured on film. As I watched this, I experienced many fond memories of standing in cold, nondescript alleyways, and of dousing foreigners in leaves and maple syrup.


I was wondering WTF fake leaves and maple syrup had to do with anything, much less a supposed high fashion shoot. Now I know. It's a Canadian thing. ;)

I am curious though as to how the downtown area was a backdrop for this shoot, as Mr. Jay stated.

Wow. Those prizes. Were. The. Worst. Right? A freaking rodeo? J's clothing line? Ugh.


I actually liked Mr. Jay's line - - at least what we saw of it. But attending a rodeo is a major letdown, especially after jewelry.

#40

Dolphincorn

Dolphincorn

    Fanatic

  • Location:Edmonton, AB, Canada
  • Interests:Laughing at misfortune, rooting for the villians, egging on the bitches.

Posted Mar 29, 2012 @ 5:11 PM

No one ever refers to the type of women Matisse was known for painting anyway, because they varied so tremendously throughout his career. In fact, his most famous painting of females is probably "The Dance" which the women are highly stylized. "Blue Nude II" comes to mind when I think of Matisse's women, too, but I believe it's a collage. Nevertheless, neither painting has anything to do with the way Eboni appeared in her shot. I agree with the poster who theorized that Kelly Cutrone confused Gaugin with Matisse when she translated the word "métissée" incorrectly. It was dumb mistake to make on a TV show while she was trying to appear as if she was smart.

I'd probably be happy to win a free trip to Milwaukee to visit a cheese factory, so maybe my standards are too low, but a trip to Calgary isn't really a horrible fate. It's on the doorstep of the Rockies, it's full of people in cowboy hats for ten days a year, and there are lots of rich people there. I live in Edmonton and we get tons of tourists from the UK and western Europe who come to see our wildlife and marvel at our wide-open spaces. For some reason, they like the prairies.

#41

phinomenon

phinomenon

    Loyal Viewer

Posted Mar 29, 2012 @ 5:49 PM

A couple of times during the episode, Kyle looked like a white version of Tyra to me me. And now that's all I see when I look at her. Back to lurking.

#42

Saintz

Saintz

    Couch Potato

  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Mexico
  • Interests:Horror Movies, Graphic Design, Vh1's trashtastic reality shows, Desperate Housewives, Project Runway, Nip/Tuck, ANTM. Also, English is not my first language so please grant me a little bit of your patience if I screw up in my posts, thanks!

Posted Mar 29, 2012 @ 5:58 PM

And what's with Sophie's hair? It's pink, it's not, it's pink, it's not. Why does it keep changing?

I thought the talking heads where Sophie had pink hair must have been from earlier episodes.

Seymone officially has my vote for the "worst plus-size girl in the history of America's Next Top Model"

At first I thought this may be an exaggeration but now that I think about it, she really does suck as a model too. Even C10 Whitney had some good shots. Like Louise said during the first episode, Seymoan doesn't know how to work her curves. She only stands there and doesn't know how to pose. Her picture was awful, IMO.

I thought the episode was entertaining but the photoshoot was so cheap, wth. I'm gonna miss Ashley. I thought she looked great during the shoot but like Seymoan, she doesn't seem to know how to pose. The pictures in her portfolio were so basic. Oh and for the first time I found her eyebrows really distracting.

Poor Sophie. The look on her face when they were greeting Jay in the tower was hilarious. It would have been nice to have a photoshoot there because we could have ended up with a repeat of the Ho Style Catie freak out right there.

AzMarie is so amazing. Love her. I'm indifferent towards Eboni but I liked her pic and I think this might be the start of her winner's edit. She's young, tall and has a nice body so I wouldn't be too bothered if she wins (although I still prefer Sophie).

A couple of times during the episode, Kyle looked like a white version of Tyra to me me. And now that's all I see when I look at her. Back to lurking.

Since someone else compared her to Joanie last week, I can't see anyone else D:

Edited by Saintz, Mar 29, 2012 @ 5:59 PM.


#43

Ladle

Ladle

    Fanatic

Posted Mar 29, 2012 @ 6:54 PM

I hadn't watched the show in a couple of weeks, and when I tuned in I was shocked to see that Seymone was still in the competition!

and then the comment that her mother told her kids the longer she was away the more she was winning


This I did not understand. Don't the eliminated contestants get sent to a model safe house until the end of filming to prevent spoilers, like the contestants of every other reality show? So how does the length of Ashley's time away from her children have anything to do with whether or not she's winning?

#44

MuShu

MuShu

    Fanatic

Posted Mar 29, 2012 @ 6:56 PM

In some of the earlier episode threads someone mentioned that Seymone looks like Tracey Morgan in drag, and this episode I couldn't un-see it. It's a travesty that she's getting so much praise all of a sudden.


Heh. Well, Tracey does smile, and he's funny. Symone is Queen of the ass face, and has nothing approaching a personality, Imo. She's equal parts Saleisha, both fat Whitneys, humourless Talia, and whatever boring, bitchy former competitor I can't think of right now. FR-Fiercely real, my ass. More like JF-Just fat. There are plus models who are smaller than regular models, but not as big as average women, and the fat, Lane Bryant chicks. I call Seymone JFLBM-Just fat Lane Bryant model. Stop trying to make fiercly real happen, Tyra.

#45

Ms Panda Bear

Ms Panda Bear

    Video Archivist

  • Gender:Male

Posted Mar 29, 2012 @ 7:07 PM

... I'm a little speechless by the Canadiana bullshit they pulled last night. Does Jay have any say? Surely he would have wanted to kabosh the shit out of the maple leafs and syrup. He's a Torontonian. Man that killed me.

Also, as a west-coastie I'm naturally somewhat prejudiced against Harperstan. A trip to Calgary for any reasons wouldn't be jangling my heartstrings. Pft. A vacation to the Canadian equivalent of, like, Minneapolis or Boise. Thanks. Of all the Canadian cities.

Also - I've stayed in the hotel they put them up in Toronto! It is totally beautiful! Also excited to see the distillery district on camera.

#46

gadgetgirlusa

gadgetgirlusa

    Channel Surfer

Posted Mar 29, 2012 @ 7:31 PM

I was quite confused with Kelly's use of the word "matisse". I am happy to hear that others saw through her crap too. I kept thinking, like another poster, I studied French through high school, 4 years more in college, and then another 2 years in grad school, and I NEVER heard the word before. Odd, but I looked it up and thought that Kelly just showed us how phony and stupid she really is. The show is hurting with that woman on the panel. I would love to see one of the Jays on the panel again or have a host from one of other Top Models (like Britain's, Australia's, etc). Just get rid of Kelly.

I also can't stand Seymonne and thought her picture was horrible. Hand placement just pointed out that she had big thighs, not that she knew her body. Woohoo,

#47

TDWT Kristen

TDWT Kristen

    Couch Potato

Posted Mar 29, 2012 @ 8:40 PM

Saintz
I'm indifferent towards Eboni but I liked her pic and I think this might be the start of her winner's edit. She's young, tall and has a nice body so I wouldn't be too bothered if she wins (although I still prefer Sophie).

After what she did to Kyle last week, I really don't wanna see her rewarded with a win.

#48

WileyCoyote

WileyCoyote

    Fanatic

Posted Mar 29, 2012 @ 8:42 PM

Can we just fast forward to the finale, where AzMarie beats out Sophie? We all know almost exactly how its going to happen already.

Not that they aren't (by far) the best two models there (Laura being a close third)... its just tiresome waiting through the month's long setup.

Unless they REALLY shock us and chicken out and have Laura narrowly beat out Sophie. They obviously need to manipulate things to have an American win, but they'd only go Laura instead of Az if they were terrified of the whole LGBTness of Az.

#49

TallulahBelle

TallulahBelle

    Fanatic

  • Gender:Female
  • Location:Melbourne, Australia

Posted Mar 29, 2012 @ 10:36 PM

URGH, I still can't get the quote buttons to work but in regards to Sophie's pink/notpink hair, I thought that because she was walking in a for real, legit, actual fashion week, that one of the designers insisted her hair be fixed further proving Tyra doesn't know jack about what hair looks good on these girls.

Also, Jay said no one in the HISTORY of TM had walked in a fashion week show, but if you include international versions of the show, the girls in AusNTM have walked in (I think) Melbourne fashion week in one of the last seasons here. But that probably doesn't count right?

Also, also, Azmarie could not have looked and sounded less enthused and fake-y about how much she wanted every single bit of Jay's clothing line.

#50

Myndela

Myndela

    Fanatic

  • Gender:Female
  • Interests:Classic rock, bead weaving, playing the guitar and writing music.

Posted Mar 29, 2012 @ 10:41 PM

Also, also, Azmarie could not have looked and sounded less enthused and fake-y about how much she wanted every single bit of Jay's clothing line.


Yeah, when she said that what Jay had in his line was stuff she'd actually wear, and then they showed that hideous dress, I said "No, no, no they're not." Az, be real. You wouldn't be caught dead in that ugly shit.

#51

Oholibamah

Oholibamah

    Stalker

Posted Mar 30, 2012 @ 7:51 PM

Seymone booked 0 shows and supposedly had a good photograph, and gets called T5. Catherine books 0 shows and has an even better photograph than Seymone, and lands in the B2. Not understanding the logic there, especially since Catherine wasn't even called out on her confidence/mental state while in the B2.

That said, I actually don't think the favoritism/bias is particularly lopsided. Ashley, Annaliese and Alisha have always been weak models, and Catherine hasn't been on her A Game. Sophie has greatly improved since her cycle, but IMO, her potential/photos/consistency are still slightly below Kyle/AzMarie/Laura, and only slightly better than Eboni.

Seymone sucks, though, and needs to go ASAP. But all in all, I agree with the FCOs going to the Yanks (especially since this week's couldn't go to Catherine).

#52

supie

supie

    Couch Potato

Posted Mar 31, 2012 @ 1:26 PM

Why did they have the girls walk in a 'real' runway show, when they have had no Miss J training ?
I thought having a good walk was important ?

#53

Sentosa

Sentosa

    Couch Potato

Posted Mar 31, 2012 @ 7:16 PM

Catherine's Vlog on Tumblr this week is amazing, and very illuminating. I agree that she was sabotaged by the shit they did to her hair, so I wasn't surprised when she confirmed it here. I wonder if Catherine got B2'd because she said at panel that the state of her hair affected the number of bookings she got, and Tyra was offended?

Azmarie is really overrated as a model - regardless of what they teach her she will always have one look (masculine and tough/street/ghetto). Sophie and Catherine are great, and Kyle and Laura are too (though I can't can't stand either of them). Eboni, however, clearly has the most potential, based on her youth, body, face and ability to book castings. She needs a lesson with Miss J.

Ashley's barely above average-looking compared to my friends, she doesn't have a great body and she can't walk or take a good photo. IMO her personality wasn't so special that she deserved to ever be on the show, so I'm not bothered she's gone. Seymoan clearly should have been in the bottom two with her though, instead of Catherine.

#54

Jon N

Jon N

    Fanatic

  • Interests:Sleeping<br />Painting (too bad don't have the time)<br />Fashion

Posted Mar 31, 2012 @ 9:23 PM

I wonder if Catherine got B2'd because she said at panel that the state of her hair affected the number of bookings she got, and Tyra was offended?

That would make sense, since Seymone also booked zero, and had the attitude of a 10 yo brat during Jay's show booking. Yet, no one said anything.

I also agree that AzMarie also has one look, masculine, she needs to vary a little more.

Eboni however has the memorable face of dirt, seriously, I don't think I can pick her out of any crowd.

#55

eatingchicken

eatingchicken

    Video Archivist

Posted Apr 1, 2012 @ 5:58 AM

While Ashley was always fodder, picking the photo where half her hair was flattened by the syrup.... nice one Tyra.

And then FCO for Eboni. Ugh. That photo made no sense to me and she wasn't even modelling through the syrup.

While I dislike her, when she's on the TV SeeMoan has a good body. However that photo to me was a well photoshopped Facebook snap of a big girl sticking out her T&A to try and look sexy. And this is speaking as a plus sized girl myself. Belonged in a trashy mens magazine.

Now she has that degree, Tyra can't hate college educated models. Therefore, based on the photoshoot, she obviously hates Canadians.

#56

Sol Apollo

Sol Apollo

    Fanatic

Posted Apr 4, 2012 @ 6:14 PM

I've been catching up on this season online and this has to be the worst season yet, and that's saying something after some of the travesties of cycles past. I hate the whole US v. UK schtick, have yet to understand why Kelly Cutrone was ever picked (unless TPTB are scraping the bottom of the barrel and no one else will do it), and we may as well skip the whole rest of the cycle and go to the final with Az and Sophie, because really no one else should be in the final two except for those two.

#57

babsg

babsg

    Loyal Viewer

Posted Apr 11, 2012 @ 10:08 AM

Azmarie is really overrated as a model - regardless of what they teach her she will always have one look (masculine and tough/street/ghetto).


I disagree completely. Her photo in the gown with the large hat in front of the car? Pure glamor. I also thought the syrup photo was strong, but also very feminine.