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Posted Apr 11, 2012 @ 8:08 PM

Bread and butter or bread and sugar were common snacks back in the dark ages (1960's).
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Posted Apr 12, 2012 @ 8:20 AM

Carol Haven looked pretty long in the tooth to be playing teen-aged Joan of Arc, but I guess they had to get her out of the country somehow.

Anissa Jones was one TINY child.
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Posted Apr 16, 2012 @ 5:33 AM

Petticoat Junction is on instead of Family Affair! What has happened???
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Posted Apr 16, 2012 @ 6:57 AM

Petticoat Junction is on instead of Family Affair! What has happened???

Family Affair moved to 7 AM
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Posted Apr 16, 2012 @ 9:54 AM

Thanks, Meredith!! I guess I'll have to give up the first 30 minutes of Today. :)
What was today's ep about?
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Posted Apr 16, 2012 @ 1:33 PM

What was today's ep about?

The Fish Watchers: Uncle Bill gets the kids involved with tropical fish after the advice of a fellow construction worker. Yes, it was as exciting as it sounds.

I've noticed that Brian Keith touches his face a lot (in every role I've seen him in). Today he scratched his chest.
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Posted Apr 17, 2012 @ 4:14 AM

The Fish Watchers: Uncle Bill gets the kids involved with tropical fish after the advice of a fellow construction worker.


This ep made little sense. For one thing, the construction worker seemed to make it clear that he barely made ends meet, yet he apparentyl set up an aquarium for his kids to keep them interested. If he had money issues I doubt he would have had the resources to buy the tank, and other things for even a modest setup.

Secondly, why did Bill get so many kinds of fish? They looked like kids in a candy store! I kept waiting for the aquarium guy to talk about what fishes are best for fresh/salt water tanks, temperature sensitive fish, etc. When I was a kid, the tank was filled with comet goldfish from Woolworth's!

I also was a bit let down with the theft subplot. It was cool seeing Bill punch out the construction thieves, but if they were willing to put up a fight when caught, I can't understand why they'd let a scrawny guard escort them into the shack and hold them long enough for the cops to arrive!

I wondered why Bill even wanted to do the "family project" idea anyway. It seemed like things were working out fine - the kids all had their plans and the only downside was that for a while they weren't having dinner with him at night. The problems didn't appear until the fish did!
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Posted Apr 17, 2012 @ 11:05 AM

It was cool seeing Bill punch out the construction thieves

Oh my gosh, I thought that was the funniest scene of the episode. So preposterously stagey!
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Posted Apr 17, 2012 @ 12:03 PM

For one thing, the construction worker seemed to make it clear that he barely made ends meet, yet he apparently set up an aquarium for his kids to keep them interested. If he had money issues I doubt he would have had the resources to buy the tank, and other things for even a modest setup.

Perhaps you have the relationship reversed?
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Posted Apr 17, 2012 @ 1:19 PM

Okay, I'm back on track after missing one ep that sounds very odd. So today Uncle Bill didn't realize that the TV was exploding behind him as he plugged in the hair dryer. It seems the picture would have gone out at the moment of the first explosion, but who am I to nitpick? It was very nice of Uncle Bill to let the kids from the building run around in the apartment. I missed the part about why Mr. French was stuck somewhere else. Did he have to go set up something for the hunting trip?
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Posted Apr 18, 2012 @ 6:49 AM

I missed the part about why Mr. French was stuck somewhere else. Did he have to go set up something for the hunting trip?

Mr. French went to visit his brother I think and was snowed in.
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Posted Apr 18, 2012 @ 9:52 AM

Funny that Uncle Bill read Winnie the Pooh and the kids didn't think he was as good as Mr. French!

As for today's ep, I never noticed how boy crazy Sissy was when I watched this show as a kid. Good thing Uncle Bill kept a close eye on her.
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Posted Apr 18, 2012 @ 10:47 AM

I never noticed how boy crazy Sissy was when I watched this show as a kid. Good thing Uncle Bill kept a close eye on her.


Aren't most teenage girls boy crazy at some point? Sitcom teens are probably worse! Not to mention Cissy seemed to have horrible taste in boyfriends.. at least in this episode. She wonders about getting engaged to a box boy from the local market, and thinks he really will be a rock star someday!!

The previous ep had her sick in bed with a cold and upset that the boy she went out with on ONE date isn't calling to find out how she's doing! I wanted to slap her!! Sure the guy did send flowers by ep's end, but the whining made her so darn annoying!

Speaking of annoying, why was Bill all of a sudden intent on moving to Connecticut? I know back then more families were moving to the suburbs for various reasons, but for the first two years he's had no inclination to leave the city and the kids seemed to have had adjusted to living there. Out of the blue (on a date no less!) he thinks NYC is unfit for the kids and wants to move! Talk about contrived!

I did find it funny that Buffy & Jody thought of Connecticut as so far away! I guess they weren't aware of how far Terra Haute, Indiana is from NYC?
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Posted Apr 18, 2012 @ 10:50 AM

Funny that Uncle Bill read Winnie the Pooh and the kids didn't think he was as good as Mr. French!

Bill was racing through it without much inflection in his voice. Blerg.

How many episodes revolve around "I thought you wanted this." "But we thought you wanted this." "OK, let's forget all the money I just spent on an aquarium/movers/remodelers/etc. and go back to how things were." ?? :-)

Terra Haute, Indiana

I noticed that Buffy pronounces her home town (and maybe Bill does, too) as "terra hut" rather than "terra hote". It's jarring.
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Posted Apr 18, 2012 @ 11:20 AM

Just think, a week I was marveling at how this show doesn't eally on the sitcom standard of let's have a misunderstanding then clear it up at the end of the show. The Let's Move episode was pretty silly. Not only the re-hash of the same theme as Inquisitionist pointed out. But the whole notion that they wouldn't be a family because they were moving out of the apartment made no sense. I could understand it if the kids were upset that they keep moving around and have to make new friends, but they acted like they wouldn't be together at all anymore. And how could they possibly pack up an entire 4 bedroom apartment in a few days?



On a more pleasant note - I watched this episode on a regular sized tv screen and Uncle Bill doesn't nearly have the hunchback he has in wide screen. I have notced that he has more hair lately too (no matter the screen size) I guess he has gone from comb-over to toupee.
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Posted Apr 18, 2012 @ 12:25 PM

I watched this show this morning and wow, I had forgotten how sacrine it is!

So, "Uncle Bill" has to walk home from work in the rain b/c he cannot hail a cab one day and suddenly decides they all must move to a country home in Connecticut? I couldn't help but wonder why he was the only person in town without an umbrella. After all that talk about Cissy's long-haired boyfriend from the grocery market, I was very disappointed to see a very normal-looking kid whose hair just barely covered his ears!
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Posted Apr 18, 2012 @ 1:20 PM

Aren't most teenage girls boy crazy at some point? Sitcom teens are probably worse! Not to mention Cissy seemed to have horrible taste in boyfriends.. at least in this episode. She wonders about getting engaged to a box boy from the local market, and thinks he really will be a rock star someday!!


About 2 years ago, I rented and watched all episodes from all the seasons of FA. One of the DVD extras had Kathy Garver on a panel discussion with other FA guest stars who were child actors in the 50-70s. One of them was Jerry Mathers (the Beaver). in one Season 3 episode, Jerry has a cameo where he picks up Cissy for a date. So if anyone sees Jerry or remembers the episode, please post it.
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Posted Apr 18, 2012 @ 1:54 PM

After all that talk about Cissy's long-haired boyfriend from the grocery market, I was very disappointed to see a very normal-looking kid whose hair just barely covered his ears!




Normal by today's standards! In fact I used to be confused when I watched Monkees reruns and they were often referred to as "long haired weirdos" by detractors. I never thought their hair was that long, but by the standards of that time, it was. Clean cut boys then tended to wear their hair about an inch long if that! Certainly not enough to cover their ears or reach their shirt collars.
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Posted Apr 18, 2012 @ 3:18 PM

How many of you had the Winnie the Pooh records that were narrated by Mr. French? He will always be the voice of those books. That's a great thing. :)

Mrs. Fabersham was in trouble after she told Mr. French to quit his job. In the first ep I saw since this show came on a few weeks ago, the kids were trying to fix up Mrs. Fabersham with the stand-in gentleman's gentleman. He thought they wanted her to move in and take his place.
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Posted Apr 18, 2012 @ 3:18 PM

(deleting double post...I hope)

Edited by PattyorSelma, Apr 18, 2012 @ 3:20 PM.

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Posted Apr 18, 2012 @ 5:27 PM

The one thing I have noticed from watching the reruns is how often poor Jody was always wearing that gold and black sweater that looks like it came from Star Trek. I think the budget went to Buffy and all of her little dresses that matched from head to toe. I don't know if they are dressing Cissy hip or not. I remember the Brady Bunch kids were actually outdated when they were doing their show and Family Affair was well before them. I always thought Uncle Bill was cool and rugged. I always wondered how much sex he was getting. Of course, he never actually brought the woman home for that. I guess he always stayed at the date's house. Man! Was he a man tramp or what?!?
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Posted Apr 19, 2012 @ 9:16 AM

The one thing I have noticed from watching the reruns is how often poor Jody was always wearing that gold and black sweater that looks like it came from Star Trek. I think the budget went to Buffy and all of her little dresses that matched from head to toe. I don't know if they are dressing Cissy hip or not. I remember the Brady Bunch kids were actually outdated when they were doing their show and Family Affair was well before them.


According to kathy garver, in the first season, the kids had to buy their own clothes to wear for the series. I can't remember from the DVD extras if Brian Keith or Sebastian Cabot had to also.

By the later seasons, Anissa and Johnny got contracts with children's clothing companies and they wore those clothes on the series. And I think Kathy got some clothing deal too.

I always thought Uncle Bill was cool and rugged. I always wondered how much sex he was getting. Of course, he never actually brought the woman home for that. I guess he always stayed at the date's house. Man! Was he a man tramp or what?!?


Brian Keith was hot (but I like rugged type men like Chuck Connors in "The Rifleman") and he was a movie star during Family Affair. He had a deal worked out similar to Fred Macmurray's deal with "My Three Sons": he shot all his scenes with the rest of the cast in a 1 or 2 month period. Then the rest of the cast shot their scenes and the scenes were pasted together to form the individual episodes. This freed Brian Keith to do movies and other projects.

Anyhow, I think they should have married Uncle Bill off in season 4 or season 5. Then the show could focus on Aunt Whatever and the family adjusting to each other. I think that would have prolonged the show a bit and added more interest, especially if Uncle Bill and Aunt Whatever had a baby----lots of story lines about the new baby and the family. And it would have given Buffy and Jody a chance to grow up and be in the big sister and big brother role.
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Posted Apr 19, 2012 @ 9:56 AM

According to kathy garver, in the first season, the kids had to buy their own clothes to wear for the series.

Wow, I wonder if that was common practice or if Don Fedderson was just extremely cheap. Do you the Douglas boys had to buy their own clothes for My Three Sons?
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Posted Apr 19, 2012 @ 11:38 AM

poor Jody was always wearing that gold and black sweater that looks like it came from Star Trek. I think the budget went to Buffy and all of her little dresses that matched from head to toe. I don't know if they are dressing Cissy hip or not.

I watched FA in the original run and let me tell you, they were all decidedly un-hip. Katie on My Three Sons was the only one I can think of from the Fedderson group who dressed fashionably for the time.
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Posted Apr 19, 2012 @ 12:25 PM

Wow, I wonder if that was common practice or if Don Fedderson was just extremely cheap. Do you the Douglas boys had to buy their own clothes for My Three Sons?


I don't know if the same thing happened on My Three Sons. but it happened on FA per Kathy Garver. Also, in the panel discussion I mentioned earlier with the other child star guest stars, Veronica Cartwright said she wore a dress she made on that episode of FA (It's the one where Cissy meets flower children in the East Village). And that she had just come from San Francisco and wore it there.

but if you think about it.....I think if you wanted a show that portrayed the average child, it would make sense to send them out and have them buy their own clothes. Granted I was born some years after FA was cancelled, and I was more contemporary with the kids on Family Ties, The Cosby Show, but I don't remember dressing (or remember my friends dressing) like Mallory or Denise.
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Posted Apr 19, 2012 @ 3:28 PM

Anyhow, I think they should have married Uncle Bill off in season 4 or season 5. Then the show could focus on Aunt Whatever and the family adjusting to each other. I think that would have prolonged the show a bit and added more interest, especially if Uncle Bill and Aunt Whatever had a baby----lots of story lines about the new baby and the family. And it would have given Buffy and Jody a chance to grow up and be in the big sister and big brother role.

That was pretty much the formula for they used for the later seasons of My Three Sons: The father gets remarried and there is a young stepdaughter.

Edited by bobbyhill, Apr 19, 2012 @ 3:28 PM.

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Posted Apr 20, 2012 @ 9:28 AM

That was pretty much the formula for they used for the later seasons of My Three Sons: The father gets remarried and there is a young stepdaughter.


And My Three Sons (plus a step daughter), lasted a couple more seasons, with Chip getting married in the last season IIRC.

they tried to expand the cast in the last season of FA when they added Emily the housemaid (Nancy Walker), who would show up from time to time and help Mr. French. But I think that was more out of necessity because Sebastian Cabot's health was failing.

But I think if they married Uncle Bill off in season 3 or 4 to a lady who had no children or orphaned nephews and nieces, there would be more storylines---particularly about her adjusting to the Davis family. And if Uncle Bill and she had their own child, an entire season or two could be spent around that and its effects on the family.
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Posted Apr 20, 2012 @ 12:21 PM

Today's episode was yet another based on failure to communicate. Those Davises and Mr. French really need to learn to communicate with one another directly! Also, why are they all so insecure about their relationships with each other? There are all those plots where Mr. French thinks the kids don't like him or the kids think Uncle Bill doesn't really want them to live with him. A good family therapist could help them with all that. But then there'd be no show.
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Posted Apr 20, 2012 @ 12:33 PM

There are all those plots where Mr. French thinks the kids don't like him or the kids think Uncle Bill doesn't really want them to live with him.


From the kids' points of view, none of the other relatives wanted them so why would Bill, when the relatives dumped them on him. In the pilot, I think Bill says that everyone (the relatives) agreed to split the kids up and to take which one they wanted. But when Buffy didn't get along with her other uncle, she was dumped on Bill. And when the other relatives found out, they dumped Jody and Cissy on Bill. so i can understand their insecurity.
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Posted Apr 20, 2012 @ 1:40 PM

I liked today's ep. Mr. French was so pleased to see that he was considered part of the family and he also got to rub it in the face of that other gentleman's gentleman. That rhyme about the skinny kid cracked me up and especially the way they sang it right in front of Mr. French and the other lady. (Mrs. Fabersham??)
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