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Posted Mar 28, 2012 @ 1:53 AM

Have any of the designer's clothes been bought all three episodes?

I believe the only designer bought all three nights is the men's clothes designer. I don't know HIS NAME because this show thinks it's more important to have a freakin' musical performance???! than to show more footage of the designers or, you know, the design process or anything like that.

The poster upthread is right-- the set of designers that don't get a show each night are automatically safe. So the editing kind of gives it away.

I noticed something else. I think the buyers see the clothes before the run-way and made their selections before the show was taped. I noticed that the Saks guy said 'We really like that dress' a couple times tonight. Obviously meaning his buying department. I guess it makes sense-- they're not just going to make a purchase like that without going through the process. But why hide that and act like they're buying on the spot? Instead of Cirque de Soleil dancers, it would be cool to see the buying departments discussing and deliberating over the clothes. Frankly, I find the buyer's insights as to why they buy or not more interesting than the mentors.
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Posted Mar 28, 2012 @ 3:53 AM

I feel like I have seen nothing here which is already pictured in any pattern book, with slight variations. "Version A. Short sleeves, in chambray Version B. Long sleeves, black corduroy, with neck-bow Version C. Full length, large floral print" etc..... I reaaaallllly don't get how people who have seen thousands and thousands of garments over many years can be wowed by anything here.

Borrrrrrrriinnnnnnng! The Blade Runner lighting is really distracting. I'd rather see a show where they roll out a rack from Ross past buyers and they just make bid bid bid.
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Posted Mar 28, 2012 @ 6:54 AM

I really loved Ronnie's dresses and was upset when no one bid on them. Once again the dress that gets bought up is the one that fits like a wetsuit, while the flowy one that 70% of real women could wear doesn't get bid on. As an older, slightly thick woman, I wish we could get some clothes bought with us in mind too. We have money and buy clothes also.

Edited by metoo1778, Mar 28, 2012 @ 6:55 AM.

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Posted Mar 28, 2012 @ 7:05 AM

I laughed when the swimsuit lady said her jumpsuit gave the model a "frontal wedgie." There's gotta be a market for cameltoe clothing.

I think the buyers see the clothes before the run-way and made their selections before the show was taped.

I figured that out tonight too when the H&M lady said that a dress looked better on the hanger than it did on the models.

I really liked Barbara's white shirt dress. Poor thing just cant catch a break.

I liked Sarah's dresses the way she made them but don't like the version that ended up on H&M. The H&M buyer even pointed out how nice the mesh straps of the dress were but the for sale version doesn't have them.

Edited by taalsi, Mar 28, 2012 @ 7:16 AM.

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Posted Mar 28, 2012 @ 7:49 AM

Huh. I'm kind of getting used to this. I didn't like the first episode at all so not sure why I tuned in again, but there is some draw in seeing which clothes are bought. I majorly wish the producers hadn't decided that what viewers really want in reality TV is a strobe light-induced headache, but I suppose once they set that course they're bound to it now for any future seasons. Blaring music! Scantily-clad dancers! Neon set design! Hyped-up audience!

Thanks to some diligent wikipedia contributor, the list of buys is available: http://en.wikipedia....ki/Fashion_Star

Poor Elle was looking a little Madame Puppet tonight. Has she fallen into the plastic surgery trap?

Ha! And yeah, I think she has.

Edited by queasy, Mar 28, 2012 @ 7:53 AM.

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Posted Mar 28, 2012 @ 11:58 AM

Poor Elle was looking a little Madame Puppet tonight. Has she fallen into the plastic surgery trap?


So wrong. And yet...somewhat accurate. I thought the drape she was passing off as a dress was hideous.

Had to go to bed before it was done so I missed on who got cut but the show continues to puzzle me about the bidding or what the buyers are looking for. I did like Orly's sheath the most out of those got picked but disappointed that only the orange was on sale. I thought the navy blue with the neon yellow belt was the most fun out of the 3 colors chosen.
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Posted Mar 28, 2012 @ 12:25 PM

LMAO (or whatever that stink bomb was), random girl on on a flying hula hoop, bitchy Molly Sims (or whoever she is) NOT TO MENTION THE "SHOW" ... I can't remember when I have been so addicted to something so idiotic. Oh wait ... that show with Tyra. I pray this gets cancelled or else I am showing up at tv rehab.
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Posted Mar 28, 2012 @ 1:56 PM

LMAO (or whatever that stink bomb was), random girl on on a flying hula hoop, bitchy Molly Sims (or whoever she is) NOT TO MENTION THE "SHOW" ... I can't remember when I have been so addicted to something so idiotic. Oh wait ... that show with Tyra. I pray this gets cancelled or else I am showing up at tv rehab.

Eek, is it the saddest part of the fall of Elle MacPherson that she's now been confused with a comparative nobody like Molly Sims?
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Posted Mar 28, 2012 @ 4:49 PM

If we weren't already aware that this show is a circus, this week we got *actual* aerial performers. Oh show. With your semi-comprehensible format, pointless musical guests and seizure-inducing lighting. But I can't get Project Runway on Hulu so here I am.

Maybe it's my rock-bottom expectations, but I am consistently enjoying this thing. The up-front-ness of the commercialism is kind of refreshing. Jessica's personality is sweet and Nicole's is sharp; both are more entertaining than I would have expected. I'm kind of pulling for Kara though I know she can't win it. I also love menswear guy whose name I can't remember. Does anybody else have favorites or are all the designs too banal to choose? I wanted to like Lizzie, but I thought her designs were terribly unflattering (and I am built a bit like she is).
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Posted Mar 28, 2012 @ 5:20 PM

I feel like I have seen nothing here which is already pictured in any pattern book, with slight variations.


All of life is like this now-a-days what with media 'n all.

Only once in a blue moon do we see a chef make a meal, a designer design an outfit, a producer make a tv show - that hasn't already been done a katrillian times before.

I'm not even sure there are "cycles" of things anymore. With media attention 24/7, it seems near impossible to create a "wave" or "trend" for much.

Not to say there aren't moments of uniqueness and brilliance in each area on occassion, but not as a general rule.

Still, it's good entertainment and that's about all I expect.
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Posted Mar 28, 2012 @ 9:32 PM

I do not understand WTF this show is supposed to be. Its like watching a Chadwicks catalogue live. There is nothing fashion foward, interesting or special about any of these clothes.
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Posted Mar 29, 2012 @ 1:19 AM

Jessica's personality is sweet and Nicole's is sharp; both are more entertaining than I would have expected.

In a way it kind of annoys me that Nicole played Paris Hilton's even dumber sidekick on their crappy reality shows years back. Because the real Nicole? Seems like a pretty smart cookie.
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Posted Mar 29, 2012 @ 11:07 AM

In a way it kind of annoys me that Nicole played Paris Hilton's even dumber sidekick on their crappy reality shows years back. Because the real Nicole? Seems like a pretty smart cookie.

I loved Nicole on that show. She was the reason I watched it. I found her hilarious -- a bit wild, very flirtatious and hilarious. What slightly annoyed me was that the general opinion seemed to be that it was Paris who made the show what it was, and Nicole was a lesser character, while my experience (and possibly that of others) was very different.


Fashion Star may finally be fulfilling some of my expecations of a show about fashion. I'm not into fashion, so I've been surprised that I liked several outfits so far. This week, though:
- I disliked many designs.
- The one I liked best, Barbara's shirtdress, especially the white one, was bought by no one.
- I hated Elle's outfit for the second week in a row.
- Then someone comes out with pants that remind me of Elle's from last week, and it gets bought (with more than one bid I think).
- I also didn't think much of Orly's design and it got a bidding war IIRC.

I think Saks has decided to carry Orly's work, so they're going to bid on her stuff frequently. At least, that's how I can understand their aggressive bidding for her. (To the person who answered my confusion about the Saks EVP/CC, thanks. Now it makes a bit more sense.)

I got the distinct sense the buyers have not only made up their minds beforehand (which does make sense) but also communicated it to the show personnel because the way Elle sometimes says (like this week before Nikki's design, I think, was bid on), "Now, do we have any bids on So-and-so?" seems to give away that the answer is going to be "No" and that she knew it already.

Edited by commenter, Mar 29, 2012 @ 11:10 AM.

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Posted Mar 29, 2012 @ 12:42 PM

Just caught up on the show and I liked the dress on which Saks bid, but the actual dress for sale is very generic and missing the details which made the dress the designers. It is shorter, has no pockets, the back is not a V and I don't see the color in the pleat either.

I hope Nzimiro Oputa wins the whole thing. He has been bought each week.
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Posted Mar 29, 2012 @ 5:06 PM

I pray this gets cancelled or else I am showing up at tv rehab.


I'm there with you. This show has become my wtf lolarious guilty pleasure.

I do kind of dig Orly's stuff, she has a clean aesthetic that speaks to me. I wish her stuff was getting snapped up by H&M instead of Saks though, so I'd have a prayer of being able to afford any of it!

Ah Lizzy. When she said she wanted to do something a bit heavy metal, I have to say I was secretly hoping for something a little more Rob Halford, haha, though I'm not sure how that would have worked for summer.

I hope Barbara gets a buy next time, she's the only one I really like who hasn't had any luck yet.

Edited by rustler, Mar 29, 2012 @ 5:07 PM.

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Posted Mar 29, 2012 @ 5:19 PM

It's like watching a Chadwicks catalogue live.

Ha! In keeping with that, I keep getting the ad here for pastel jeans.
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Posted Mar 29, 2012 @ 8:39 PM

Just caught up on the show and I liked the dress on which Saks bid, but the actual dress for sale is very generic and missing the details which made the dress the designers. It is shorter, has no pockets, the back is not a V and I don't see the color in the pleat either.

Yeah! I noticed that too! The orignal design was way cuter. I've noticed that what actually ends up getting sold at the stores looks a lot different than what went down the runway. Not just material or even details. Last week, that pink dress that Macy's bought ended up having a totally different cut than what was on the runway.

For those of you wondering what the CCO/EVP of Saks is doing there, Saks is really trying hard to reach a younger customer.

Ohhh. Still wish it had been Nordstroms so the clothes would be priced around $150-225. Still expensive but a little more modest. I wouldn't have thought the show's target audience would have 300+ to drop on a pair of pants or a skirt, but I guess I was wrong!!
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Posted Mar 29, 2012 @ 8:44 PM

I really wish the sexist jerk had come into the show with a better attitude in week 1. It kind of sucks only having one menswear designer on the show each week. Sexist guy seemed like he had some interesting ideas in mind, and his clothes weren't BAD. Really screwed himself over by opening his mouth. You would think he would know from his time as a model that you don't insult the people you're working for to their face and expect good things.

I think I would have liked the shorts Nzimiro had produced if they were a bathing suit. They kind of scream swimwear. Captain America Swimwear.
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Posted Mar 29, 2012 @ 9:28 PM

Still wish it had been Nordstroms so the clothes would be priced around $150-225. Still expensive but a little more modest. I wouldn't have thought the show's target audience would have 300+ to drop on a pair of pants or a skirt, but I guess I was wrong!!

Good thing I like very little of the stuff shown here. Most of my skirts or pants cost $29.99 or less!
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Posted Mar 29, 2012 @ 10:09 PM

I liked the dress on which Saks bid, but the actual dress for sale is very generic and missing the details which made the dress the designers. It is shorter, has no pockets, the back is not a V and I don't see the color in the pleat either.


I agree, it's disappointing. That would be understandable if the dress was being sold at H&M for $29 but with it being sold for $300 you'd think that it would have kept the details that made it look expensive.
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Posted Mar 30, 2012 @ 12:10 AM

Just caught up on the show and I liked the dress on which Saks bid, but the actual dress for sale is very generic and missing the details which made the dress the designers. It is shorter, has no pockets, the back is not a V and I don't see the color in the pleat either.


EXACTLY!! The original was in some kind of silk, with the gorgeous colors, contrasting pockets and slit. It hung better than this one does. The Saks version looks like some common dress by Jones New York that can be picked up at Marshall's or Ross for $29.99. I certainly wouldn't pay $300 for it, but I would have gladly paid it for the version I saw on the runway during the show. All of the stuff that the buyers loved about it are GONE! The color choices the designer made were better. This one looks like blah "orange" and "fushia", not the gorgeous, rich pastel "melon" and "hot pink" of the original. And, something is lost in the translation from the original silk to the heavier jersey. The way the dress falls is not the same and it doesn't have the same "drape" (for lack of a better term) as the one in the original fabric. It just looks like something I've seen many times before. A generic shift dress with a contrasting band around the waist. Meh.

DISAPPOINTED ALL AROUND AND I LOVED THIS DRESS!! After seeing it online, I'm not going to bother going into Saks to try it on in person.
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Posted Mar 30, 2012 @ 1:06 AM

Just caught up on the show and I liked the dress on which Saks bid, but the actual dress for sale is very generic and missing the details which made the dress the designers. It is shorter, has no pockets, the back is not a V and I don't see the color in the pleat either.

EXACTLY!! The original was in some kind of silk, with the gorgeous colors, contrasting pockets and slit. It hung better than this one does. The Saks version looks like some common dress by Jones New York that can be picked up at Marshall's or Ross for $29.99. I certainly wouldn't pay $300 for it, but I would have gladly paid it for the version I saw on the runway during the show. All of the stuff that the buyers loved about it are GONE! The color choices the designer made were better. This one looks like blah "orange" and "fushia", not the gorgeous, rich pastel "melon" and "hot pink" of the original. And, something is lost in the translation from the original silk to the heavier jersey. The way the dress falls is not the same and it doesn't have the same "drape" (for lack of a better term) as the one in the original fabric. It just looks like something I've seen many times before. A generic shift dress with a contrasting band around the waist. Meh.

I couldn't agree more. It was a great dress on the runway, & now it's a nothing dress at Saks. Even just shortening the length ruinned the look. This makes me wonder who has the final say in how the clothes look. Can the buyers just change the clothes to how they want them, or do they have to get the designers to agree? What happens if the designer won't change the design after it's sold? Or is this something that they have to agree to if they get on the show? If the designers don't have a choice about changing the clothes to what the store wants, it's possible that the clothing could end up being nothing that they would design or want their name on.
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Posted Mar 30, 2012 @ 1:23 AM

Forgot to mention ... does ANYONE like those pants? They look like pants from the 80's that you could walk into Goodwill and buy for $5.99. Or something from the boy's section of any department store. They were not flattering on any of the models that wore them on the show. The crotch was too low and they were hemmed too short. Simply awful! Maybe on a 20 year old they might look "hip" and "retro", but for anyone who wore them in the 80's it would look like you're wearing your old clothes! And, "floodpants" at that!
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Posted Mar 30, 2012 @ 11:18 AM

Just caught up on the show and I liked the dress on which Saks bid, but the actual dress for sale is very generic and missing the details which made the dress the designers.


Preach it. Everything that Orly added on to make it stand out (the back, the bit of flutter) was taken off on the Saks version. Not to mention they used the colour that stood out the least for me.
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Posted Apr 1, 2012 @ 12:56 PM

McCalls has put out patterns of 4 of the bought designs from the first 2 weeks here: [color=darkred][color=darkred]http://mccallpattern.mccall.com/fashion-star-pages-3382.php[/color][/color]

I would have considered buying the 2nd one (the loose-fitting one that sparked the bidding war in week 2 from the woman that put a tie on the runway in week 1 -- I don't know the name of any of the designers!) but it doesn't come in my size and I don't like it enough to grade it. Others are either very generic and I'm pretty sure I have something like that already (last 2) or not something I would wear (1st one). BTW, McCalls patterns can often be had for 99c when on sale at Joann's and many other fabric store, or even on McCall's own website (though you have to pay shipping) At least 40% off is very common.

I guess we'll have to keep an eye out to see if they put out more.

Edited by Patty G, Apr 1, 2012 @ 12:56 PM.

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Posted Apr 4, 2012 @ 7:40 AM

Anybody still watching this?

I tried again last night, but all the flashing lights, music and so little time spent on the design (I guess I'm just used to Project Runway) that I ended up changing the channal.

Anyone know who they sent home?
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Posted Apr 4, 2012 @ 8:10 AM

I'm still watching! I actually am kind of enjoying it - I like the emphasis on wearability / what will sell. And I don't hate the mentors ALL of the time. They sent home some blond woman whose name escapes me for a boring trench coat (kind of short American lady with curly blond hair).

I agree with others though about the looks sometimes being disappointing in the stores. I really liked Barbara's dress last night and the Macy's version was just not as nice. Hers had a fuller skirt and a nicer print. Guess they wanted to keep it under $100? The low end version looked pretty much like the runway one, but I wouldn't wear it myself it's too young a look. I wish they had just charged a little more for the 'high end' one and followed hers more closely I might have bought it. I still want Ross's shorts but can't quite bring myself to spend $59 on shorts.
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Posted Apr 4, 2012 @ 12:20 PM

I watched again last night. I'm not sure why. I guess I'm a sucker. There are still people that I'm like, "Wait, who are you?" and they're still skimming over people. Apparently even though they had a bidding war, we didn't need to see some of those outfits in the middle? I find it strange.

I still would like to know who the innards of the show work -- I don't need it jam packed with drama-drama-drama -- I just don't understand how they get from challenge to runway (I mean, clearly some sort of design and dress making happens). I guess we're not supposed to care? The fight one designer had with the pattern maker was interesting. I'm not saying I want to see it every show, but I feel like they're trying too hard to be NOT Project Runway.
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Posted Apr 4, 2012 @ 4:01 PM

I'm still watching too. I thought this episode actually had more interesting clothes, and only minimal backup dancers. The music: still atrocious. I really like Barbara's style, and Kara is knocking it out of the park. I feel like Kara is the most innovative; she works within a pretty strict set of references, but her pieces are conversely not like anything I've seen before. That's hard to do in fashion; there are only so many wears to cover the human body after all.

Why they are still skipping people in the third quarter I do not know. Why Texan guy is still here I do not know. I don't think his clothes even look good on the models. He's so high on himself; it's pretty funny to watch.

I also thought Orly's pants were great. Jessica Simpson even made a joke about how she got in trouble for wearing high-waisted pants. Points for not taking yourself too seriously, Jessica! She's got a very down-to-earth aesthetic and I respect that, even though I wouldn't wear her wardrobe. So weird to say that what I've gotten out of this is appreciation for Jessica Simpson. It must be opposite day.

Next week they are supposed to start working in teams. What? Drama impending.

Oh, and also: pattern maker not taking orders from designer: not cool.
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Posted Apr 4, 2012 @ 5:17 PM

I watched again last night. I'm not sure why. I guess I'm a sucker. There are still people that I'm like, "Wait, who are you?" and they're still skimming over people. Apparently even though they had a bidding war, we didn't need to see some of those outfits in the middle? I find it strange.


My thoughts word for word. I didn't even recognize the blonde woman designer who got into an argument with her pattern maker.

I also liked Orly's high waisted pants but Saks guy was right that they didn't have anything in common with the low end pants.

Kara seems to be the one to beat, but didn't they say the winning designer has to appeal to all three judges?

ETA:

Why Texan guy is still here I do not know. I don't think his clothes even look good on the models. He's so high on himself; it's pretty funny to watch.


I can't get over how much he sweats. It's as bad as Howie from Top Chef ...

Edited by Anacharsis, Apr 4, 2012 @ 5:23 PM.

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