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Posted Mar 13, 2012 @ 8:59 PM

From the Going Through Channels Blog:

In the new competition reality series (hosted by Elle Macpherson), Jessica Simpson, Nicole Richie and John Varvatos judge 14 young designers competing for a chance to launch a collection with H&M, Macy's and Saks Fifth Avenue. For their first challenge, the designers must show the judges what makes them unique as they flaunt their signature styles down the runway hoping not to get cut.

Fashion Star starts tonight at 9:30 on NBC for a special 90-minute premiere.



From NBC.com

Hosted by
Elle Macpherson

Celebrity mentors
Jessica Simpson, Nicole Richie,
John Varvatos

Featured buyers
Caprice Willard, Terron E. Schaefer, Nicole Christie

NBC kicks off the new year with the new reality competition series "Fashion Star," which will search for the next big brand in fashion. Featuring host and executive producer Elle Macpherson along with celebrity mentors Jessica Simpson, Nicole Richie and John Varvatos, the series will give 14 unknown designers the chance to win a multi-million dollar prize to launch their collections in three of America's largest retailers: Macy's, H&M and Saks Fifth Avenue.

Each week, the show will begin with an exhilarating fashion show unlike anything seen before featuring musical performances, dancers and models in front of a studio audience. Every fashion show will be built around a weekly challenge that is designed to further develop and expand the designers' brands.

The series will feature clothes designed for America to buy, and it has enlisted three of the world's top retailers to help in the decision-making process. Caprice Willard (Macy's), Terron E. Schaefer (Saks Fifth Avenue) and Nicole Christie (H&M) will serve as the judges who make on-the-spot decisions as they vie for the right to purchase and exclusively carry the work of the up-and-coming designers each week.

At the end of each episode, America will have the chance to immediately purchase the winning designs showcased on the episode that week. What viewers see on TV that night will be on the streets and in stores immediately. With just a single trip down the runway, "Fashion Star" will change the lives and fortunes of these aspiring designers forever.

Each week, designers who do not sell any of their items to the buyers will be up for elimination. In addition, celebrity mentors Simpson, Richie and Varvatos will be able to save one of these designers from the chopping block.

The fashion designers featured on the show will include everyone from the stay-at-home mom who makes her own clothes to sell at the local community market to the recent design school graduate who has held jobs with major design houses to an engineer who became a self-taught designer. Many of the contestants will come to the competition with their own existing lines and will be challenged to take their brand to the next level. All the contestants will be put to the test to see how they react in a variety of real-world scenarios to determine who has the vision and desire to build a fashion empire and achieve his or her dream. With top experts as their guides and mentors throughout the process, designers will have to be as adept in the business of fashion as they are in their creativity as it's up to them to make their brand a national reality.

In the end, one designer will successfully combine fashion and business to become the next Fashion Star and will receive the prize of a lifetime - $6,000,000 in orders for capsule collections in Macy's, H&M and Saks Fifth Avenue stores.


Edited by Tafatia, Mar 13, 2012 @ 9:06 PM.

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Posted Mar 13, 2012 @ 10:05 PM

Well, that was unpleasant. Too noisy, too many commercials, ugly clothes and not good enough views that I can see how it is put together and let me know if it is interesting enough to actually wear. I am glad they got rid of the one they did, but I would have been happy to dump a whole bunch of them. And we didn't get enough time to really get to know them.
I watched because the NYTimes had a positive review, but I won't be watching again. Ick.
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Posted Mar 13, 2012 @ 10:06 PM

Thanks for starting the thread Tafatia!

That was both well done and boring. Not seeing the designers interact or the design/construction left me flat. But I did like the three-versions of a garment, and seeing models that were not always thin and flat, or very young (and MEN!) I like having both mentor comments and buyer comments. And I like that the mentor's comments don't have anything to do with the buy. But something about the show didn't really pull me in.

Best: Jessica smacking down the motorcycle jacket jackass (who just kept digging himself in deeper and deeper). Worst: Top hat crying guy, whatever his name is. Kept for personality. A gross personality.

I'll try again (mainly to see if Tilda Swinton wannabe can pull off an actually sellable look). But I don't know if I'm in it for the long haul - we'll see. I kinda want to like it.

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Posted Mar 13, 2012 @ 10:22 PM

I liked the show. It was fun. I don't know why they even needed commercials with the show being a huge commercial for the three stores, maybelline and Suave. I can't imagine it being canceled.

I loved the zipper skirt (not $300 worth) HATE the short top hat dude.
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Posted Mar 13, 2012 @ 10:23 PM

I don't see the need for the three mentors. What can a Nicole Ritchie add? Does she even design her own line?

I guess I wanted to see how the clothes were originated, drawn up and constructed, but perhaps that would be too Project Runway inspired. In any case, there were too many designers, the show moved too fast and it was very confusing. I didn't like the clothes and I especially didn't like the celebrity judges.
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Posted Mar 13, 2012 @ 10:23 PM

What the heck was that? I feel like I have whiplash. This was a mashup of ProjectRunway/Sharktank/24Hourcatwalk/SabadoGigante/RocktheRunway. Half the time I had no idea was going on. Why do they need 2 mentors when I never saw either Nicole or Jessica say more than, "Try the blue fabric."? Then in the middle get a couple of designers that don't get complete runways, but they tell us who won? Also apparently we don't need to know the thought process behind the collections, but we get the dead relative/life threatening illness bio on a few of them and the others are allowed to sass the judges and the most arrogant gets sent home.

Seriously trying to watch this show and tweet had my eyeballs jumping. I'm going to take some dramamine and go to bed. I'm pretty sure this was my one and only time watching this mess.
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Posted Mar 13, 2012 @ 10:26 PM

That was a boring mess. And who let the high school dance DJ in with his mix board and what I have to guess is the latest editions of "Now That's What I Call Music" do the sound? I felt raped by top forty dance hits by the time the show was over.

And Elle McPherson? Did I really hear her reference Chanel in a list that topped with Ralph Lauren and Diane von Furstenberg as "even" in terms of influence and industry changing signature articles? Really Elle? I'm not sure which is more worrying. That she doesn't know how "even" works in that line up; she actually thinks of Coco Chanel in those terms or she is just vapidly reading off lines she didn't write but already rehearsed and didn't parse the problem.

They kept the drama. Who can't design.

Macy's clearly is going to be the big buyer since it looks to be a big sponsor. So sadly this will probably last its full cycle since it is cheap and Macy's will love the free airtime (because even after the ad revenue it hands NBC it is still getting free advertising on the show for pennies on the dollar for what they "spend" in their bids". But I swear the buyer from Macy's looked as disgusted as I felt when they announced they were keeping the talentless little famewhore who looks like he should be a sidekick on one of the real housewife shows instead of pretending to be a designer.

Its kind of funny that they are going ready to wear but still trying to pass off what looks incredibly bland, over-done and derivative as something the likes of Macy's and Saks are dying to grab up. Considering the rush and grab glory that H&M has managed to eke out for itself, I'm really surprised they went on this show. It seems much more of a Kohl's and Targent type audience. Which I'm not sneering at in any way but rather simply seeing the people who watch and might buy are not looking to pay over priced tie-ins to a tv show at Macy's and Saks prices.
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Posted Mar 13, 2012 @ 10:28 PM

I heard about this show this morning on the radio and made sure to give it a try. There are certain things I like about it, like the buyer comments and the chance to buy winning designs after the show.

I've been a big fan of Project Runway in the past, but the drama and personal stuff started boring me and I got really tired of it. This show actually made me miss it. Hopefully, we'll get the chance to get to know the designers better and see more of the development and construction process. It's interesting that the designers have full use of a patternmaker in addition to the makeup artists and hair stylists so the designer doesn't have the stress of sewing a garment in a few hours like on PR. I don't see how they would insert crazy challenges into the show if the winning designs are for sale. Bummer, those can be the most fun episodes.

I didn't really like any of the clothes tonight except that red shirt with the tie front. Well, the convertible skirt was kinda cute too and the caftan fabrics were beautiful, oh yes, and that black/teal dress that won with the pockets was super cute. If only the length was a bit closer to the knee.
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Posted Mar 13, 2012 @ 10:33 PM

Then in the middle get a couple of designers that don't get complete runways, but they tell us who won?

How weird was that? They had an hour and a half, but couldn't get all the designers in? So maybe start with 12 designers instead of 14?

But I swear the buyer from Macy's looked as disgusted as I felt when they announced they were keeping the talentless little famewhore who looks like he should be a sidekick on one of the real housewife shows instead of pretending to be a designer.

Oh she did pull a face, didn't she?! Almost like, "hey, I was told they'd be judged on CLOTHES, not drama!"
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Posted Mar 13, 2012 @ 10:34 PM

It's interesting so far, so I think I'll watch it again. I don't like Oscar and thought his dresses were ugly and much too short. I also didn't like the jacket with the shorts. I have no idea why he decided to do that. The bottom three deserved to be there though, I just wish that Oscar left.
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Posted Mar 13, 2012 @ 10:44 PM

I knew they were going to keep Mango as soon as I saw him; he's their 'human interest character'. I don't understand the whole set-up of the show. I like John Varvatos and Nicole Richie but Jessica Simpson is a bit too down-market for my tastes. I'm also curious as to what Saks is doing there. I can see Macy's and H&M because they're relatively inexpensive but Saks is a luxury brand store; I was stunned when the buyer went for the 'two for one' skirt. I don't get this show.
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Posted Mar 13, 2012 @ 10:54 PM

I thought that I would give this show a chance, but dear lord, I truly forgot how annoying Jessica Simpson is. I know it's just her accent, but she sounds drunk sometimes and it's so hard to listen to.

The show was really just a complete mess. I don't know there was just too much going on and yet I felt like it lacked any true substance.
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Posted Mar 13, 2012 @ 11:12 PM

I like this show...for the most part. I like the fact that the feedback is concrete "$$$" or "no offer" not "it looked like my crazy uncle's sister's pants that she wears to Ingles on Senior Citizen Day" and "that crotch is insane"...even though I DID love Nicole calling out Texas boy's insane crotch on those too-big black pants. I was wondering what was wrong with the pants and she explained it so nicely. LOL

I do have a question - do the designers actually get the money that is offered or is this just for show? If they do, the folks who make it to the end will probably make a boat load of money!!! Imagine ~$50K/show x 10 shows and that's $500K for no-name folks on a TV show, not to mention the potential to make $6M by winning the show.

The money aspect makes it better than PR for me but seeing the design/creative process makes PR better. I hope that since we've gotten the backstories out of the way we will get to see some design/creativity on this show.
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Posted Mar 13, 2012 @ 11:23 PM

What a hot mess. I'll give it one more view..maybe next week, they can figure out how to show ALL of the designers equally. I mean WTF was that weirdness in the middle, not showing the three designers? Hated that..
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Posted Mar 13, 2012 @ 11:55 PM

Phew, that gave me a headache! Waaay too noisy. After a long day of work, the LOUD music set my nerves on edge! Why were there mentors when the clothes were already made? I think just the buyers themselves with their critiques would have been enough. It just seems redundant to have both. I'd probably only watch this if nothing else was on.
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Posted Mar 14, 2012 @ 12:14 AM

I think it's better to watch, lightly drunk and with the volume really far down. I'm giving it exactly 3 episodes, as I do with all shows. It hasn't hooked me yet! I do like Nicole Richie, I feel she is much more qualified to critique (both ladies and mens...geez!). She is aware of the opposite sex!
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Posted Mar 14, 2012 @ 12:17 AM

I ran away less than 10 minutes in; I just couldn't take all the flashing lights. But I'm happy to see the Solid Gold Dancers are once again gainfully employed...
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Posted Mar 14, 2012 @ 12:48 AM

I came in about a half hour into the show so I missed a lot of the explanations as to what's actually happening here, so I was confused. I had to kind of piece everything together as the show went along as to what was going on, i.e. how designers were eliminated, what the mentors actually do, what the buyers do and what they're capable, etc.

But I liked it.

I liked the music. I liked the setup. I liked that it was sleek and reminiscent of a fashion show. I like that Nicole Richie and Jessica Simpson are there to lend their star power and "advice" (how much they have to give is still TBD). The buyers are a little... blah. I always like when there's a crotchety personality at the so-called judges table; a Len Goodman/Simon Cowell personality. I don't think they have that here.

Elle Macpherson seems to be an alright host. She looks a little off to me. Like plastic surgery gone awry.

I'll tune in again next week. Hopefully as the number of designers dwindles, the connection with the ones that remain will become stronger. I'd also like to see the work that goes into all of the designs. Tonight we got none of that.
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Posted Mar 14, 2012 @ 1:09 AM

Cheesy, loud, vulgar, down-market--I liked it! It doesn't shoot for art and doesn't attain it. Because fashion is 99% commercialism--cheesy, loud, vulgar, and down-market at that, and charging $6 for magazines doesn't make any less so. Just cut out that extra half hour because it needs to move faster.
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Posted Mar 14, 2012 @ 1:16 AM

I actually enjoyed the show. I only watched to see if they really would come up with, as one buyer (Macy’s, I believe) put it later, stuff that was “saleable and wearable,” and because nothing else I wanted to see was on TV.

I liked that they got right to it from the start, with a bare minimum of backstory and sob stories on the contestants, mentors and buyers. I liked that not all the mentors and not all the buyers spoke every time, and their comments were brief. I enjoyed Nicole Richie on The Simple Life and I enjoyed her here too. I thought Jessica Simpson was known for being a “dumb blonde” type but she was certainly OK here. I liked that the pace was brisk. I imagine as the crowd gets thinned down, there’ll be more backstory and focus on each person, but I didn’t need that here.

One of the backstories had a line I found weird: “My mother’s death gave me the strength to follow my dream” or something very much like that. I can sort of imagine what she meant to say (as it’s often said in these kinds of shows, clichéd as it may be) but what she did say didn’t come out right IMO. In any event, the sooner contestants and producers stop milking family tragedies on reality TV, the better.

IIRC, it was interesting that all three of the negatively criticized designers who fought/sassed back and interrupted (as opposed to just responding afterwards) were men: the Aussie, the Salvadoran and the Texan (less sass/fight in his case, I think).

I’m no fashion hound but nothing blew me away. I was surprised Saks was in this. I would have thought they’d be too high-end for it.

The removable outer skirt idea was interesting but the reasoning the designer gave was flawed, I thought. Wind tunnels wouldn’t move that snug inner skirt IMO. And if the outer skirt was for cover, it should have been longer, not almost the same length and of a cut and material that wind really would blow upwards.

Elle looks like yet another plastic surgery victim to me. And while I can see why a show on fashion might feel a European element is a plus, I kinda feel there are a few too many non-American hosts on American reality TV. At least it feels that way.

I don’t know that I’ll watch that much of this going forward, but it’ll remain an option on quiet Tuesdays for a bit, and I am curious to see how the stuff being on sale the next day works out.

This was a mashup of ProjectRunway/Sharktank/24Hourcatwalk/SabadoGigante/RocktheRunway.

Not having watched those shows (except in passing glimpses) was probably an advantage for me when it came to seeing this. The dancing etc., I completely ignored.

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Posted Mar 14, 2012 @ 2:13 AM

I liked it, but I hate they decided to keep the little drama queen. I hope this isn't how the show is going to go, cause I do not like this guy at all, & I don't want them keeping people just for the drama.
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Posted Mar 14, 2012 @ 2:18 AM

This was a mashup of ProjectRunway/Sharktank/24Hourcatwalk/SabadoGigante/RocktheRunway.

LOL! That's perfect! Very accurate for what I saw too. But even though I like a good number of those shows, I didn't quite like this. It was REALLY rushed. I was waiting for us to see them actually designing the clothes. But then we never did. I don't feel like we got to know any of the designers or their design asthetics too well. They should have started with less designers and not done that weird '4 designer' mash-up in the middle where they just told us who won.

The 'mentors' seem pretty useless right now. I'm sure they have great 'advice', but honestly, the clothes already looked done and on the models by the time the mentors made their rounds, so how exactly are they helping?

Of all the clothes, I really liked the dress with the flowy arm that got bought by Macy's (I don't even know the designer's name because she didn't even get a run way show!) I liked that she was wearing her own clothes and it showed the versatility of the dress. I would actually buy that if the price is reasonable. I also thought the light blue dress that got bought by H&M was super cute.

Have no idea what Saks is doing there. Even Nordstroms would make more sense because even though it is high-end store, it still carries some reasonably priced items. Saks just seems too expensive for the demo of the show.
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Posted Mar 14, 2012 @ 2:33 AM

The 'mentors' seem pretty useless right now. I'm sure they have great 'advice', but honestly, the clothes already looked done and on the models by the time the mentors made their rounds, so how exactly are they helping?

The designers who remain will be showing other designs throughout the season (and eventually having an entire line in the stores, it sounds like), so the feedback (limited feedback from the buyers, more from the mentors) should come in handy then.

For example, had the Aussie survived the first cut, he'd presumably know not to ever make the kinds of comments he did tonight in future shows! And the woman with the androgynous look pieces knows not to showcase just accessories again (not that she would have, anyway, I don't think). The woman with the fluffy pockets on the hips knows now (and should have known already IMO) not to exaggerate parts of the body many women want to downplay and minimize. Etc.
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Posted Mar 14, 2012 @ 6:07 AM

Biggest let down was not seeing the clothes get made (maybe I am just too used to PR's emphasis on that), but also that I got the impression that it wasnt the designers that were actually making/sewing the clothes - or am I totally wrong? Not that it matters that much, since they are obviously designing for mass production.

The clothes overall seemed to me to be of poor taste levels, even for the likes of H&M or macy's. The two-purpose mini-skirt just looked so ordinary and plain, had no wow-factor at all. The thing I did like was the asymmetrical tunic from the mother-designer (one of the people that were in the middle-mess of shortcuts). The resort-clothes were so uninspired. Overall, none made me gasp.

One other worst thing were the male models - except the guy that was modelling the grey jacket (not the motorcycle one), they were all so stiff and moved like they just had a big dump in their pants.

I am wondering in regards for future episodes: will they have concrete tasks/frameworks in which they all work, or will it always be this incoherent/diverse a bunch (YMMV). Giving it a couple more episodes to see what concept they settle for.
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Posted Mar 14, 2012 @ 6:39 AM

but also that I got the impression that it wasnt the designers that were actually making/sewing the clothes

I think I saw some designers sewing but they are also given pattern makers and sewers to assist.
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Posted Mar 14, 2012 @ 8:19 AM

But I liked it.

I did too.

I'll bet any amount that there will be a major divide over people liking and hating this show.

I liked it because I really got the sense that a lot of "the usual" reality show garbage was just tossed right out the window. I liked that while we DID get the obligatory backstories, that ultimately it was about the clothes, and it wasn't based on weird time-constrained unrealistic challenges. We just got tossed in there, with the end result, and a realistic panel of "judges" and while I do understand that won't "invest" viewers as much (and thus the numbers will likely SUCK), I sensed a certain amount of integrity in the process. Yes, even a process where Jessica Simpson and Nicole Richie are "experts" (although I thought as mentors they actually both did pretty well, considering how late in the design process they came in).

Then in the middle get a couple of designers that don't get complete runways, but they tell us who won?

Yeah, that's kind of a problem. I get that in some sense it doesn't matter, since the viewers don't vote, the experts do, and so they are simply cutting out the fat. But as a viewer its disconcerting.
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Posted Mar 14, 2012 @ 8:37 AM

I came in about a half hour into the show so I missed a lot of the explanations as to what's actually happening here, so I was confused. I had to kind of piece everything together as the show went along as to what was going on, i.e. how designers were eliminated, what the mentors actually do, what the buyers do and what they're capable, etc.


I watched the whole episode and I am still trying to figure out what was happening. Overall though, I did like it. I'm hoping the pace slows down a bit once there are less designers and they don't have to do as much introduction. I loved that convertible skirt from the first female designer and was pretty disappointed that it went to Saks and not H&M because I might actually have been able to afford it.
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Posted Mar 14, 2012 @ 8:56 AM

Yeah, that's kind of a problem. I get that in some sense it doesn't matter, since the viewers don't vote, the experts do, and so they are simply cutting out the fat. But as a viewer its disconcerting.

If there's time to show Oscar making his little dog dance, there's time to show all the designs! The show was 90 minutes long, and this viewer wanted to see the clothes, not the idiotic filler I had to endure. I couldn't believe it. Four designers just skipped over, but we get to see Texas "I'm not gay" boy shoot a gun and fit a frilly, flowery frock? The director should be fired forthwith.

That said, I'm hanging in for awhile. I liked John Varvatos and, surprisingly, Jessica Simspon. It was exceedingly pleasant to see Tooly McToolerson the Aussie Hunk get his walking papers.
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Posted Mar 14, 2012 @ 9:20 AM

Wow, what a jumbled mess. Felt like fashion under the big top with Oscar/Mango (LOL!) as the main clown in the center ring. Through the show I was hoping no one watching would fall into seizures with all the flashing lights.

First off, kicking off the show with Elle MacPherson's ugly ass lingerie designs? Really show?

I thought the 1st half hour was a clusterfuck because I had little idea as to what was going on and little idea as to what the show was really looking for in a fashion star? I think being that they had buyers from 3 major retailers it is obvious they are looking for something most people in the general population would be able and willing to pay for and wear - right there that knocks out some of your more innovative designers. So I won't expect to see another too fashion forward, risque or innovative, which kinda already makes it less fun than PR. However, both panels also mention trying to be on trend, yet take it to another level of innovation. Talk about a fine line. Also, I think the retailers they chose seem a bit too disparate in taste levels, average customer and price level. As mentioned Saks seems a bit too high brow for this 3 rings circus, but H & M seems quite a bit more youthful, trendy and affordable than say Macys and Saks. YMMV.

The challenge itself didn't seem clearly conveyed to this viewer. I feel like they didn't really explain the challenge until like after the 1st commercial break or maybe I wasn't paying attention? I also would have loved to know how long the designers even had to work on those designs. Was it hours, days, weeks? If some of those designers had days and that was the shit they came up with, they should have sent a whole slew of them home.

The most interesting thing about the show is the buyer panel. That as far as I know has never been done before. Frankly, I wanted to hear from them more as to why they did or didn't make an offer.

I don't really get the mentor aspect and really didn't feel they added much of anything to the show but maybe they get better later. I feel the mentor should be involved in the creation process and not be on the stage lending comments after the fact. I just get the sense that NBC needed to get some famous faces on there to drawer attention and viewers. I am willing to give this show 1 more chance.

Frankly, I think getting rid of the live audience, toning down the SabadoGigante/RocktheRunway (good call on that comparison) loudness would go a long way in improving this mess. Oh and axing Oscar.

Side note: I never realized how pretty Nicole Richie is.

Edited by islandgal, Mar 14, 2012 @ 9:23 AM.

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Posted Mar 14, 2012 @ 9:24 AM

I can see Macy's and H&M because they're relatively inexpensive but Saks is a luxury brand store; I was stunned when the buyer went for the 'two for one' skirt. I don't get this show.


They're selling it for several hundred dollars. I wonder how it'll do at that price point. Are the other stores selling their items for hundreds of dollars?

I think the real problem with the show was that there was no explanation. Was this kind of like an audition round on AI where they're trimming the fat, how are things going to work in the future? Who knows. Even the explanation as to who they were eliminating wasn't clear from the start.

Edited by meatball77, Mar 14, 2012 @ 9:35 AM.

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