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Posted Mar 13, 2012 @ 8:17 PM

I hope it's okay for me to start a TGW hair, makeup and fashion thread. I wanted to do this since before we had our own board. In the effort to get the discussion going allow me to post some thoughts I've had regarding this area. Some recent, some not. Some I've shared before, some I haven't:
  • Diane Lockhart is one of the best dressed women on television
  • Kalinda's short skirts have moved from edgy to inappropriate. If she wants to be taken seriously then perhaps she should stop buying her skirts at PornyCheerleaders.
  • I'm glad to see Chris Noth/Peter stopped shellacking his hair. I like the little bit of gray.
  • What with the hair on the women of color in the SA's office? Geneva wears a ponytail, Dana wore that side ponytail and Imani Stonehouse had the worst wig I've seen outside of my family reunions. Wendy Scott-Carr is the only woman who didn't have lousy hair and she's batshit crazy.
  • Will looked cute in his casual wear last week. I hope we can get more scenes of the characters away from the office
  • Did I mention that Diane Lockhart is one of the best dressed women on television?

Edited by marceline, Mar 13, 2012 @ 8:17 PM.

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Posted Mar 13, 2012 @ 9:40 PM

Has there been any mention in any of the media coverage, of what range of designers the costume department has picked for Diane, Alicia and Kalinda?

Wendy Scott-Carr is the only woman who didn't have lousy hair and she's batshit crazy.


A character has to have some kind of weakness (a McCarthy streak a mile wide?), but it wasn't her hair!

Will looked cute in his casual wear last week. I hope we can get more scenes of the characters away from the office


I will never forget how well put together Alicia looked in a a white shirt and jeans, I can't recall what precisely Diane was wearing when she was wandering the museum and met the process server...but I agree its always interesting to see them at home, or out of the office.

Edited by name234, Aug 26, 2012 @ 3:47 PM.

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Posted Mar 16, 2012 @ 12:25 PM

I agree, Diana is impeccably dressed.

Kalinda's skirts are way too short in my opinion and I would like to shitcan the Boots of Glory. She's looking too one-note and it's beginning to bug me.
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Posted Mar 16, 2012 @ 1:36 PM

I read somewhere (possibly even here, long ago) that CBS wants many of its characters to have a well-established "look" clothingwise - hence the unrelenting Boots of Glory, probably, and the fact that Kalinda literally never lets her hair down.

I didn't like Alicia's bangs at first, but they've grown on me, so to speak. I rewatched some of Season 2, and she looked much more severe without them.
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Posted Mar 27, 2012 @ 6:52 PM

I loved the pleated back jacket Alicia wore for her first meeting for the Blue Ribbon Panel, it just lent an air of polish to the ensemble, I'm glad they gave it a bit of camera time as she entered the room

Edited by name234, Mar 27, 2012 @ 6:52 PM.

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Posted Mar 28, 2012 @ 2:30 PM

I loved the pleated back jacket Alicia wore for her first meeting for the Blue Ribbon Panel

I came here to mention the exquisite jacket with the pleats, as did name234. So gorgeous. Both Alicia and Diane have some of the most beautifully cut jackets with great details. They have to cost the earth.

Edited by SuzN, Mar 28, 2012 @ 11:01 PM.

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Posted Apr 22, 2012 @ 6:50 PM

I swear Alicia was wearing nearly white hose while waiting for the judge in Whiskey Tango Foxtrot. Looks too Nursey.
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Posted Apr 22, 2012 @ 7:23 PM

How is everyone feeling about Alicia's hair recently?

I loved it at the start of the season, where it was a bit longer and wavy. But I feel the past few episodes the hair has really aged her. I know quite a few middle aged school teachers with the exact same style. I'm hoping to see a new, slightly longer wig next season. I would also love to see her hair up a bit more, but I know that is probably difficult with the wig.
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Posted Apr 22, 2012 @ 9:11 PM

Did anyone else actually not like Kalinda's light brown jacket tonight? Something about the way the zipper lay, and what she had it on over, just really didn't work for me.
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Posted Apr 23, 2012 @ 2:23 AM

I think the Boots say "Superhero." It's definitely over the top, but I almost think that dressing her for the cartoon helps me swallow the absurdity of Kalinda's superpowers. It's like they're saying, yes, we know, we're enjoying it but we know it's ridiculous. If they dressed her like Alicia or Diane, she'd be Nancy Drew Goes To Harvard, and that would be worse.

I notice Cary seems to dress in lighter colored suits than everyone else.
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Posted Apr 26, 2012 @ 9:50 PM

How is everyone feeling about Alicia's hair recently?


I agree with you, it's very school marm. I went back to watch a scene just to look at it and ended up on the scene where Will is telling Diane he is dating Kelly. His suit jacket is so tight the button could pop. I wonder what that is supposed to convey.
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Posted Aug 24, 2012 @ 5:42 PM

Wow, I'm surprised at all the criticism of Kalinda's clothes. I'm obsessed with her wardrobe. Kalinda has inspired me to buy more jackets than any ad campaign or anything like ever. WHERE are Archie's endorsement deals?! She totally sells her clothes.

I just don't really notice her skirts. I only ever noticed one skirt that really bugged me, but I think it was in the first season. It was this big flouncy trouncy red skirt with a bunch of layers that went all out over the place. It seemed very immature, almost grade school ballerina-esue, and didn't work with her jacket at all in that episode. That was the only time I've ever disliked something she was wearing. As for the boots, I absolutely think it's a part of her super hero persona. I don't find her "powers" ridiculous; she's just a focal point for the inevitably contrivance that a legal drama has to have. It's not something to hold against the character, but the whole persona and super hero elements - the costume, the origin story, the powers - definitely work to justify it. I think the boots are important and shouldn't go unless there's a serious shift in the character.

I grew a little tired of Alicia's haircut by the end of season, so I'm glad for the seeming change coming to her hair in the fourth season. I love Alicia's wardrobe a lot; it looks so comfortable! Like pajamas, but pretty and professional. I'm obsessed with her red, YVS jacket. In general Alicia's whole persona, everything being held in inside this WASP-y, perfectly put together politician's wife works very well. While Kalinda's wardrobe is an armor, Alicia's is like an encasement holding everything in.

Diane's wardrobe is a bit "hard"-er than Alicia's, so it looks less comfortable to me, but it is very impressive, regal, and imposing.

OH also there's this interview/style advice thingy from Daniel Lawson where he goes through the clothes of the characters. It's absolutely fascinating and it mentions that Cary is a bit more fashion forward than the other guys, so it's a good observation that he wears lighter colored suits. He also wears pink shirts! http://blogs.wsj.com.../tab/slideshow/
I love how Daniel tells a story with the clothes.

Edited by karicola88, Aug 24, 2012 @ 9:26 PM.

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Posted Aug 24, 2012 @ 8:10 PM

I think Daniel Lawson does amazing work. Particularly on the five female regulars (it doesn't get mentioned much but I think Jackie's conservative pastels are pitch perfect, and he does well to make Grace younger and dorkier than MV actually is.)

I don't find Kalinda's look excessive, I can bite at the idea that sometimes the hemlines are a bit too short to be convincing, but I don't mind as such. (Team Shallow) There was the odd piece earlier on I didn't like (there were a couple that were pale and flouncey that I didn't think worked.) The only thing in S3 I loathed on her was a tan leather jacket cut beneath the bust that I just thought was mega unflattering. I didn't love the new boots at the start of S3 that were on the knee rather than below it, but they seem to have retired. I increasingly love the dresses he finds for her. The indigo blue one with scooped back and front neckline that she wore in "Whiskey Tango Foxtrot" is my fave thing ever on her. And I adore her various shades of red leather jackets. The vermillion one with the asymmetric black zippers she had in the scene with Will's sisters in "After the Fall" that I think is Donna Karan is probably my favourite. She also had a blue with black trim skirt and bustier ensemble in that ep that was beautiful. And his people do fit her amazingly well (I say this with love) but AP is relatively long in the torso, particularly from waist to hip, and short in the leg but you'd never know it from her costuming and the way they adjust her proportions. (Compare her height to JM's when seated in bar scenes, it's nearly the same, while standing AP is obviously a lot shorter.) She also has a very pronounced hourglass figure that contemporary fashion isn't particularly appreciative of and I think the costume choices for her really flatter her.

I love Diane's costuming, even the slightly louder things that others haven't like the odd leopard print. And I flove her accessorising, from the brooches to the loud necklaces to the handbags. I really do get the sense of confidence that Diane has from how she's dressed.

Alicia's costuming as a reflection of her mental state is very interesting, but I'm also looking forward to a brighter happier NoBangs Alicia in future.

He also does a great job of minor characters. Lana is perfectly consistent in her costuming, and I think nails her character and makes the most of how beautiful JF is. And I love it when he uses costuming narratively, take for example Caitlin and Martha in their first scene together in "Parenting Made Easy" where he contrasts their outfits to the point of stereotype. Martha is hair up, dark, buttoned up to the point of clerical. Caitlin is bright, breezey and blonde. Then now that the contrast has been made he backs away in subsequent outfits rather than keeping on dropping anvils.

The guys are well done too, I think Cary in particular is someone who has become better costumed in later eps. I love all those lighter, slim, Calvin Klein single button suits.
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Posted Aug 26, 2012 @ 5:59 AM

The wardrobe on this show is pretty much across the board wonderful IMO. I love Diane's style. She just exudes confidence and she also manages to be flashy and frequently a bit loud without losing her elegance and professional taste. That's a tricky line that the show walks perfectly. I covet most all of her jewelry as well as her dresses. She can keep most of the jackets, but I would love to own the dresses.

Alicia's clothing is a bit hit or miss for me. Daniel Lawson has talked about how easy Julianna is to dress. That makes perfect sense- she's tall, mostly leg and very thin but manages to still have enough of a bust to fill out clothes properly. There is no easier body style to dress than that. Yet somehow they still manage to make her look rough on occasion. It's not a question of fit or appropriateness- Alicia's clothing always fits like it was tailored to her (which it likely was) and is always completely appropriate. It's a color problem for me. She needs color around her face. They can get by with cream or black but NOT tan. I can't even remember how many times last season she walked around with tan all the way up to her chin and looked awful. It doesn't suit her skin tone at all and makes her makeup really obvious.

Like Diane, Alicia also gets saddled with some decidedly questionable jackets but I think they suit Alicia more. I can easily see Alicia being attracted to any one of her overly conservative jackets with the random, weird detailing, pocket structure, trim, zippers, etc. I think mostly Alicia is more stylish than fashionable while Diane is the opposite. I think the biggest things I covet with Alicia are her coats and heels. She wears some really beautiful dresses too but her coats always catch my attention. I do have to single out the grey dress with the twisted neckline she wore last season. That was stunning.

The hair is another whole conversation. There is no excuse for what they do to a face like Julianna's with the styling of those wigs.

I don't particularly care for Kalinda's style. It always fits beautifully and the colors and cuts always suit Archie wonderfully. I just don't like the style. I don't care if she's not a lawyer. Neither are the secretaries and assistants. But they work in a law firm and are expected to dress to suit the environment they work in. It annoys me that Kalinda gets to constantly be the exception to the professional dress rules.

As for the guys- Cary's style is my favorite. I like Peter's too but it is noticeably more conservative which suits the character. Will generally looks good but he runs into color problems sometimes too. His aren't as noticeable as Alicia's but they're there. Sometimes I wonder if it's just that Will and Alicia have to have so many more outfits than the others because of more screentime that it's just the way the numbers fall- more outfits, more chances to miss. It's mainly Will's casual style that gets me though. Man can rock jeans and a leather jacket.

Edited by L star, Aug 26, 2012 @ 6:00 AM.

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Posted Aug 26, 2012 @ 11:59 AM

I don't particularly care for Kalinda's style. It always fits beautifully and the colors and cuts always suit Archie wonderfully. I just don't like the style. I don't care if she's not a lawyer. Neither are the secretaries and assistants. But they work in a law firm and are expected to dress to suit the environment they work in. It annoys me that Kalinda gets to constantly be the exception to the professional dress rules.


I don't understand that at all. There are no "professional dress rules" for law firm employees to be an exception to. There are just norms that have been perpetuated over the course of decades that some law firms adhere to more than others, and have different expectations for different employees. In some law firms - like Quinn Emmanuel - the associates can wear shorts to work and just have to have proper clothes for court to be ready to change into. Lockhart Gardner obviously isn't quite like that, and yes it would be a huge faux pas for a new associate to walk into Wachtell Lipton in Daisy Dukes, but Kalinda isn't some magical exception because she's so special. It's her job to go all out and use whatever she needs to get things done. It's for the law firm. The character was originally based on the best investigator the Kings had heard of: a woman who used her sexuality and appearance to get information. When you wear professional clothing people think of you professionally; Kalinda needs people to think of her as unprofessionally as possible so that they underestimate her and sexualize her and she can take advantage of that. And it works. Kalinda also goes out of the office nearly every day so she has to be ready to look that way at the drop of a dime; I think the firm would much rather she be dressed for the work that makes them money, the ground work, than for the office where clients usually don't see her anyway because she's off doing research.

It doesn't matter that you don't care that she's not a lawyer; that doesn't mean she's violating rules. What matters is that the other characters do allow her to wear what she wants because she's not a lawyer and because it helps her do her job.

Personally, I think it also goes towards her maintaining her personal integrity and wearing she wants. I think there's something empowering in that.

Honestly, and this doesn't have anything to do with L Star since I know she hasn't ever really liked Kalinda, but I do wonder if some of the negative reaction to Kalinda and her boots isn't just hype backlash at this point. She and the boots were so ubiquitous and popular in the early time of the show I guess it's inevitable that there'd be a sort of backlash. But I don't think it'd be right for Superman or Wonderwoman to suddenly switch up their costumes for Brooks Brothers garb and I think the same applies to Kalinda; the clothes really form and inform the persona and the superhero elements. Combined with the origin story bubbling under the surface, the magical sexual powers, and her living in this operatic world with evil arch nemeses like Blake, it all creates a sort of comic book-y, super heroine type elevated world that I think works.

It's a color problem for me. She needs color around her face. They can get by with cream or black but NOT tan. I can't even remember how many times last season she walked around with tan all the way up to her chin and looked awful. It doesn't suit her skin tone at all and makes her makeup really obvious.


I knew there was something about her make up that I did not like, I just couldn't put my finger on it.

Edited by karicola88, Aug 28, 2012 @ 3:53 PM.

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Posted Oct 2, 2012 @ 3:30 PM

With the casting of Marc Warren, I keep expecting an appearance from The Coat.
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Posted Oct 8, 2012 @ 1:00 AM

I'm unsure whether or not I like Alicia's hair this year. I'm not sure if they are going for sexy or what. It's better than the bangs, but than I'm not a fan of bangs to being with.
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Posted Oct 8, 2012 @ 1:40 AM

It's soooo much better than last year that I approve solely for that reason!!!
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Posted Oct 8, 2012 @ 1:52 AM

The wife and I watched S2's "Breaking Fast" last night, and maybe it was not the greatest wig of all time (I agree with criticisms that they should have gotten one that had a vaguely convincing scalp part) but I loved that rather plain hair with JM's beautiful face. I'll take S4 hair over S3's bangs of coldness anyday though.
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Posted Oct 15, 2012 @ 5:49 AM

This is a slightly late observation, but "And the Law Won" was I think the first time we've seen Kalinda wear coloured (red) nail varnish. Previously she's always worn neutral or clear. She had it on for only the ice cream scene. In "Two Girls - One Code" she seems to have it on full time. Part of the Leela regression?

Another interesting thing about "And the Law Won" was that Alicia wore for a second time the white-trimmed blazer she was wearing during the confrontation with Kalinda in "Getting Off" (Kalicia at its lowest point). The last shot prior to the scene with Kalinda and Nick in her apartment shows Alicia wearing it. Then in the apartment scene, Kalinda is wearing the purple knit top she wore throughout "Nine Hours" (Kalicia at its highest point.) Possibly this is pure coincidence, but given that Dan Lawson tracks when items were worn, I doubt it. I appreciate that non-Kalicia fanatics will probably see this as reaching...
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Posted Oct 15, 2012 @ 8:05 PM

I find Alicia's hair...interesting. To be honest, it just looks kind of messy. It just looks kind of like...something is nesting in there. Like a squirrel. Or a velociraptor.

Edited by karicola88, Oct 15, 2012 @ 8:17 PM.

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Posted Nov 20, 2012 @ 4:20 PM

There was interesting use of colorful clothing in "Here Comes The Judge". Kalinda wore two different red dresses, which is unusual for her. Diane wore a red dress in court, when she was the only person there not wearing black, navy, brown or gray. Also, Alicia wore a white jacket in court alongside Will, when everybody else was wearing dark colors. Between the lighting, the sets, and everybody else's dark/neutral clothing, those particular outfits really stood out.
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Posted Jan 28, 2013 @ 8:57 PM

I REALLY liked Alicia's clothes in this episode. I loved the white jacket she wore at the beginning and the red jacket she wore later in the episode were both lovely, even though I disliked the asymmetrical colors on both. I also LOVED the cream dress she wore to Peter's event. It was classic and sexy and perfect.
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Posted Feb 9, 2013 @ 2:49 PM

One of my guilty pleasures in watching this show is the clothes and the furniture. In "The Seven Day Rule", they seem to have dropped the ball, in that the clothes were not as awesome as usual. Diane and Alicia both wore heavy, uncomfortable looking suits that almost looked like they were wearing winter coats inside. The white dress that Alicia wore to the dinner with Peter, where they met up with Maddie, was way too tight. It looked like a sausage casing and the darts that ended right on her nipples were unflattering, to say the least.
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Posted Feb 9, 2013 @ 10:57 PM

I agree vera charles, it was fitted beyond an inch of its life! It was Victoria Beckham, I like the sleekness, but they're always incredibly close-fitted.
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Posted Jan 14, 2014 @ 7:03 PM

I just had to show some love for the outfits Geneva was rocking in this episode. I am seriously coveting that cream/black color block jacket she was wearing towards the end of the show. It was jarring for me to see how well-dressed she was then to see Kalinda walking around the courthouse looking like some S&M cheerleader.


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Posted Jan 14, 2014 @ 8:57 PM

I never really cared for Alicia's hair or fashion until season 3. I loved her hair with bangs. I feel like she looks too first lady ish again this year.
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Posted Jan 20, 2014 @ 4:51 AM

I HATED the bangs. I thought they were incredibly unflattering and just a bad decision all around. I don't think she looks first lady-ish. First ladies are supposed to be likeable baby kissers and relatable to the general public. I think Alicia's looks and persona are too distant for that. To me, Alicia looks like one of those women that you see in pictures but never in motion. She's elegant, poised, frequently beautiful to the point of perfection, but also distant and impenetrable by and large. I think aesthetically, she would be an incredibly intimidating first lady, particularly since given her lack of involvement she's generally only seen in pictures or a very supporting role. Her style is almost like an armor when still and when combined with her face and styling. I always remember that black dress she wore on the night that Peter was elected governor. It was stunning on her but I think seeing her in it, up on stage at the center of the celebration, there would have been nothing for most people to connect to. Or that red dress in the ballroom last season that only would have been seen in pictures. She's not invested enough in Peter's career to be naturally warm, she's not extroverted enough to fake it, and there's very little about her that covers those bases naturally.

 

While she's still elegant, beautiful, and frequently frustratingly distant, in motion of course she's much more dynamic even acting as first lady. She can reliably carry an interview even if people trust her more than they love her. I honestly don't think much good could come from the electorate trying to actually get to know Alicia (one more reason to add to the multitude of reasons Peter is not a viable candidate for either side of a presidential ticket). She's contradictory on a good day and really doesn't seem to give a shit about 'normal'. While that can sometimes come out of entitlement, I think mostly she just doesn't give a shit about 'normal'. She's good how she is and that would never play well to the masses given the Florricks' history. While she does have a sense of humor that could help, she's so incredibly uncomfortable in the public eye that it would take hours for any interviewer to see any element of that. So not exactly a dream first lady.

 

I am really unhappy that we missed all the inaugural events. I wanted to see her dress dammit! And her bored stick up her ass expression as she sat through the church ceremony next to Grace before the inauguration. And the coat she would have worn! She always has gorgeous coats. Would the family have coordinated?

I just had to show some love for the outfits Geneva was rocking in this episode. I am seriously coveting that cream/black color block jacket she was wearing towards the end of the show. It was jarring for me to see how well-dressed she was then to see Kalinda walking around the courthouse looking like some S&M cheerleader.

I just can't with Kalinda's outfits. They've always bothered me but looking at old pics and seeing how the other female characters' fashion has evolved it annoys me even more. I wouldn't mind as much if we saw some variance in her style but it doesn't matter what time it is- early morning or at a bar late at night- what she's doing- investigating, testifying, working in the office- she always has the same style.


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Posted Jan 20, 2014 @ 6:53 AM

FTR, I'm also pissed we missed the inauguration and I hated the bangs too.

I just can't with Kalinda's outfits. They've always bothered me but looking at old pics and seeing how the other female characters' fashion has evolved it annoys me even more. I wouldn't mind as much if we saw some variance in her style but it doesn't matter what time it is- early morning or at a bar late at night- what she's doing- investigating, testifying, working in the office- she always has the same style.


While I do understand what you're getting at, I think that's a little unfair for three reasons. (I'm going to leave aside the question of whether how she dresses is "appropriate" or not, because there seem to be people who recognise this is a TV show and those that don't -- it's not like the way Alicia or Diane dresses is realistic either.)

Firstly, I disagree that Kalinda only has one style. Certainly she has an identifiable "look", but she doesn't always have a mini skirt and leather jacket on. Yes the boots have become ever-present -- I can't deny that. But she wears a lot of different styles in tops from conventional blouses to various drapey affairs. She also wears a lot more dresses than people realise and some bustier/skirt coordinate outfits. And she does have a different look for dates (thinking of what she wore to meet Lana in 4x03 and to meet Cary in 5x12), sure it was tight and made of leather, but it was different to her office attire.

Secondly, while obviously the actual cost of Alicia, Diane and Kalinda's wardrobes is a lot more than people who had their real-life jobs would spend, Dan Lawson does actually measure it in relative terms. Kalinda's wardrobe in total should cost probably about a quarter of Alicia's or Diane's and in most part it does. She is not wearing the labels they wear, and she has many more repeats of wardrobe items. For instance in 5x12, she was wearing the same magenta coat that she's been wearing in winter since Season 1. So if her look has evolved less, that's part of the reason since she buys things to re-wear season after season. Contrast that to Alicia who has had a deliberate story built around her wardrobe where she started back at work on a limited budget and re-working outfits she wore as a political wife to do double service in the courtroom, and has been building a wardrobe and increasing her clothing budget throughout the show.

Thirdly, AP does not have the easiest body to dress. She's little over 5 foot tall, full-breasted and has an hourglass figure. She's not 5'10" and skinny as a rail like CB. Frankly fashion designers do not design for her. I think Dan Lawson has found a look that suits her body type extremely well, while also serving the character of Kalinda. But I don't think she can look good in *anything* and that does limit her costume choices.

On the other hand, I thought her first costume in 5x12 with that box-pleated skirt was *awful* so everyone makes mistakes.
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