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Posted Mar 15, 2012 @ 2:03 PM

The purchase of the entire building story line continues next week.

How awkward was that guy on his date?? LOL. Is his name Michael? And those veneers are sooo bad. They look too big for his mouth. Actually, he looks like he needs braces.
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Posted Mar 15, 2012 @ 2:37 PM

Locked closet woman seemed really stupid & clueless. The exchange between her & the broker who attended the broker's open was so awkward.

Broker who brought in the buyer who ended up wanting to buy the whole bldg was also an idiot. Why did she keep pointing out one negative after another? Her client kept telling her, "No, I don't mind that." If he ends up buying the whole bldg, & she makes a huge commission off of that, the rest of the real estate agents in the world are going to want to slap her.

Hilarious that Michael needs to consult photos to know how to put his outfits together. But I like him. I like dorky guys.
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Posted Mar 15, 2012 @ 2:52 PM

Michael consults photos to get dressed and still wears a blue jacket with brown elbow patches?

He seemed like a nice guy (totally awkward in dating) but I don't think he'd be selling on the east side if it wasn't for his father having a big real estate company to give him clients.

I did enjoy seeing the properties--and that these "high end" brokers aren't so great (that guy massacring French as part of "negotiations"? Hilarious and sad.)

That young blonde woman that the broker was gushing over as so gorgeous and oozing money actually oozed, "actress" to me. "If I wasn't taken, I'd even ask you out!" Wow, thanks. Really surprised by these people, that they weren't more polished.
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Posted Mar 15, 2012 @ 3:13 PM

The Mercer loft debacle smelled like one big real estate ad to me. And I hate people like that spoiled princess who says things like, "I even pay someone to WASH my dishes for me, heeheehee. Aren't I cute?"

And Michael with his perpetual big-toothed-no-lips grin creeped me out after a while. Not to mention, his teeth must be dry ALL the time. And he needs to be a little more subtle with how he practically rubs his hands together and counts his chickens when there's a client interested in a property.
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Posted Mar 15, 2012 @ 4:56 PM

She got on my nerves. Her whole attitude screamed Ive never had a job in my entire life and have only a vague idea of how money works.


She is an "heiress" per the broker's initial description of her last week. And she does fit the mold of some heir/heiresses I have encountered who are both amazingly wasteful with money and yet amazingly cheap and short sighted with money. The woman has probably pissed away more than $50,000 on shoes in the past year but the concept of meeting in the middle to make the sell was alien to her.
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Posted Mar 15, 2012 @ 5:26 PM

I figured Michael got the veneers so he could win a Jerry Seinfeld little brother contest.
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Posted Mar 15, 2012 @ 6:25 PM

I absolutely could not stand the loft seller. I mean how many people suggested that she lower the price and she still didn't want to go down even $1000. She reminded me of the seller of a house I made an offer on recently. They went down $5.00..YES FIVE DOLLARS. They refused to entertain my offer..and I went up several times. I knew how much their mortgage was and I offered them more than that..they were in the house for not even a year!! He refused to listen to the realtors. Oh well..his loss.

The locked closet woman is always smiling a vacant smile. These sellers are so annoying!

Don't get me started on the realtor with the guy who wanted to buy the building. What an idiot
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Posted Mar 15, 2012 @ 7:29 PM

these "high end" brokers aren't so great


They remind me of used-car salesmen. Those phone calls back-and-forth to their clients while they're negotiating with the other party sound like, "Let me go run that price past my manager."
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Posted Mar 16, 2012 @ 12:34 AM

Fredrik looks like a more handsome Perez Hilton to me. I kept thinking that every time he was onscreen.
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Posted Mar 16, 2012 @ 11:13 AM

Is his name Michael? And those veneers are sooo bad. They look too big for his mouth.

Those are some bad looking veneers because I thought they looked more like bad dentures.

She reminded me of the seller of a house I made an offer on recently. They went down $5.00..YES FIVE DOLLARS. They refused to entertain my offer..and I went up several times. I knew how much their mortgage was and I offered them more than that..they were in the house for not even a year!! He refused to listen to the realtors. Oh well..his loss.

NYGirl, that was one unbelievable response from that seller! I would've walked away after that. Good luck on your house search. We just got a contract on a new one this week.
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Posted Mar 16, 2012 @ 12:00 PM

When you're prepping your house for sale, you have to make some accomodations & compromises in order to have the home as sale-ready and appealing to as many potential buyers as is possible. It may mean storing things off-site, it may mean de-cluttering and/or de-personalizing, updating things, doing some serious cleaning, fixing broken stuff that you've been willing to live with but shouldn't expect someone else to...etc. I'm amazed at how foolish some sellers are, thinking that buyers should be able to see past all of their stuff/decor/house inadequacies...AND that they should be able to demand really high prices but do no work to the place to get it. We saw (and will see) all of these types of sellers on this show! And it's sheer stupidity to lock a closet (or any other door) in a home you're trying to sell. It makes red flags go off in people's minds "what are they trying to HIDE?"

I'm Swedish, so I'm somewhat biased, but I find myself really liking Fredrik! And, color me surprised that he's apparently got a girlfriend? I thought he was gay! And that (reindeer?) sweater? Oh, man. Bad fashion choice, and yet kind of adorkable.
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Posted Mar 16, 2012 @ 12:47 PM

I don't have a problem with a seller setting a high price. It's a strategy that sometimes pays off when the seller has no particular reason to move. My friends set a very high price on a house and after more than a year sold it. If it hadn't sold, they would have been fine.

The Mercer loft woman was completely unmotivated to sell unless she got her price. As I recall, she also was the one that called the broker out on his ridiculous attempt to convince her that she had already made up the money on another transaction. Wasn't she the one who told him not to tell her how to invest her money?

If a broker doesn't want to take an unrealistically high listing, they are free not to - or walk away. Just as the seller is free to continue to hold out for an unrealistic price that doesn't seem to be supported by the comps. The Mercer loft woman seemed to really like her unit; had no particular reason to sell that I could recall and didn't appear to have found anything that she liked. Since she wasn't in economic distress and liked where she was living, good for her.

I don't understand what the seller's current mortgage has to do with whether he/she should take an offer that they feel is too low or not what they want. If they aren't motivated to sell for whatever reason, that's their business. I think in today's market (from what my realtor friends say) a lot of buyers are not willing to sell their home for what is theoretical FMV unless they absolutely have to because FMV is being determined by foreclosures, short sales and people who are desperate to move out. Those who have no reason to sell are staying put.
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Posted Mar 18, 2012 @ 9:21 PM

Those who think that hoarder chick is a socialite who has nothing better to do than shop ... she's a lawyer and does real estate development. Google Adriana Ching. The show is so fixed. Heiress shopaholic sounds much more interesting to viewers.
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Posted Mar 19, 2012 @ 12:11 PM

Those who think that hoarder chick is a socialite who has nothing better to do than shop ... she's a lawyer and does real estate development. Google Adriana Ching. The show is so fixed. Heiress shopaholic sounds much more interesting to viewers.


The broker Michael is also a lawyer and ostensibly a real estate broker, but he seems to have only gone to law school, I don't know, because he could. And his "job" is basically a sham set up by his rich family; he appears to barely work. I could see how Adriana is the same way. I don't doubt that parts of this show is staged, but I think Ryan's description of Adriana is probably not a fixed. She is quite the social butterfly from googling her, and the only legal or real estate position she is associated with is for her husband's company.

Edited by caseyesq, Mar 19, 2012 @ 12:11 PM.

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Posted Mar 19, 2012 @ 12:18 PM

Those who think that hoarder chick is a socialite who has nothing better to do than shop ... she's a lawyer and does real estate development. Google Adriana Ching. The show is so fixed. Heiress shopaholic sounds much more interesting to viewers.


She can be both. I'm a lawyer, and frankly just by looking at her, she looks awfully young to already be at that point in her career where she can afford a $4 million apartment. And lots of uber-rich parents send their kids to great schools and use their connections to get them great jobs. She may be great at what she does, but I'd have no trouble believing that she had plenty of extra help with her parents' money and connections.

What the hell does Ryan's "motto" mean? "Expansion-- always in... always." WTF? Am I stupid? Or does that make sense in the context of NYC real estate?
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Posted Mar 19, 2012 @ 3:37 PM

I think it is "Expansion, always in all ways." it is a stupid motto.

I like Fredrick, he won me over when he stuffed food in his mouth when his client decided to sell. It was cute.
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Posted Mar 19, 2012 @ 9:02 PM

Can't say I like any of these guys. Fredrick is too over the top - hint Fredrick, you didn't "sell" 2 pats to that guy, you helped him buy an apt he already knew he wanted, and sold 1 unit. Michael would never have any of these listings if his father didn't own the business, and I can't respect that he seemed to have no desire to make his own way in the business. And yeah, if that's how he dresses with help, Lord protect my eyes from the day he loses the photos. I want to like Ryan, but can't. I'm not sure there is even enough real estate porn to. Keep me watching.

Can't say I like any of these guys. Fredrick is too over the top - hint Fredrick, you didn't "sell" 2 apartments to that guy, you helped him buy an apt he already knew he wanted, and sold 1 unit. Michael would never have any of these listings if his father didn't own the business, and I can't respect that he seemed to have no desire to make his own way in the business. And yeah, if that's how he dresses with help, Lord protect my eyes from the day he loses the photos. I want to like Ryan, but can't. I'm not sure there is even enough real estate porn to. Keep me watching.
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Posted Mar 19, 2012 @ 10:07 PM

What the hell does Ryan's "motto" mean? "Expansion-- always in... always." WTF? Am I stupid? Or does that make sense in the context of NYC real estate?


I took it as an attempted jerk from Glengarry Glen Ross, Alec Baldwin's "A = Always, B = Be, C = Closing, ALWAYS BE CLOSING" speech to the salesmen.

It was the only thing I could wrap my head around that made some modicum of sense, because it just came off as lame.

Edited by Persnickety13, Mar 19, 2012 @ 10:08 PM.

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Posted Mar 19, 2012 @ 10:23 PM

I like Fredrick, he won me over when he stuffed food in his mouth when his client decided to sell. It was cute.


Same here. I thought the scenes with the Swedish chef at the open house were great, and I found myself laughing with him when he was trying to dislodge the food from his throat while trying to talk to his client. I was also impressed with how he handled the "break up" with the client who refused to budge from $7 million. Contrast that with Ryan whose negotiation strategy appears to be to whine and say he doesn't "give a flying fuck" what the other agent wants for their client.

I didn't think I'd like Fredrick, but he seems in on the joke, yet professional. If that makes any sense at all. And Michael is just...ugh...
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Posted Mar 20, 2012 @ 3:59 PM

I looove the original MDL and miss the other guys but I'm enjoying this so far.
I follow some of the originals on Twitter and saw that Heather mentioned going out to buy new suits her her man for the new season so hopefully that one will follow.
That being said, I was hooked after the first episode. I can see that each agent will have his own traits that we'll love and hate.
Fredrik--what can you say? First of all he's gay, that ought to do it as far as making him interesting to watch, but no, he's also an ex porn star and has a great personality. Hoping that his little pastry scene wasn't scripted, and if it was, hoping it was his idea.
He handles situations with grace and doesn't get upset. I suppose it's because he has money in the bank and if he loses a listing it's not TOO big of a deal. Never good to lose one, but he's got a good balance between being hungry for success and being desperate.

Michael. Oy. What are those, age spots to go along with his highwater old man pants? Fuck! He reminds me of the kid in elementary school you tried to stay away from because he ate glue and smelled and had greasy hair.

Ryan. I like him but I wonder if this man slut thing will be played out too much.

NY real estate is fascinating. I suppose it's simliar to LA in that the small stuff is priced sky high.
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Posted Mar 20, 2012 @ 5:56 PM

What the hell does Ryan's "motto" mean?


My read of it was that you should always be trying to expand, in every way that you can. "Always, in all ways."
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Posted Mar 21, 2012 @ 9:39 PM

I've finally caught up on this show, never watched the LA one. Count me in as another who likes Fredrick, even though I thought I would hate him from the original previews. I really appreciated that he "broke up" with that client instead of doing anything to make a dollar when he knew it was ridiculous.

Michael and Ryan, eh. They both look like they have the nervous sweats all of the time. Time will tell on Ryan I think, but I don't see warming up to Michael.

Edited by molatte, Mar 21, 2012 @ 9:41 PM.

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Posted Mar 21, 2012 @ 10:58 PM

Heaven help me, but I liked Fredrick, too. He totally seems to know what's up and is in on the joke. What a cutie. I thought it was sweet when he and the Swedish chef were singing together. The other two are meh. I found myself happy to see Fredrick's scenes, and I'll definitely tune in again.
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Posted Mar 21, 2012 @ 11:13 PM

I love the show. I think that the properties are beautiful and I enjoy seeing the negotiating side of things. I don't really like Fredrik, but he does a damn good job at what he does and I respect that. Ryan just comes off as being a douche sometimes. On the other hand, I feel very sympathetic towards Michael and I really want to like him, but he needs to man up a little and take the bull by the horns instead of worrying all the time.
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Posted Mar 22, 2012 @ 1:37 AM

Fredrik seems quite unstoppable! Loved his enthusiasm with the bare-footed, karate-kid kick in his kitchen and the joy in his eyes in the gym at 5:30 am! His annoyance with Ryan reads as quite real to me, and less like the "he stole my sand pail" kind of showdowns we used to see with pretty boy and haircut in the CA counterpart. Fredrik really had Ryan's number about the construction hat, loved his comment about it covering Ryan's grey.

Oh Michael, what to say? It's not bad enough that he lunches with Pop, dresses like a Kid's-Gap-of-a-hot-mess, can't manage a passing grade on a date with a woman who actually showed interest... but now he has to have Botox for his hyperhydrosis and has never, ever heard of Namibia?!?! His driver has to explain it to him and then he manages to mangle it during the showing. Why he's doing this is beyond any comprehension, but it even feels a bit bullying by Bravo to have offered and edited it as such. Oh boy, I just remembered his horrible comment to his date about his "new chompers" or whatever it was. He's yet to show an apparent interest or acumen. It's just depressing. If they wanted one guy to be the socially-awkward one, shouldn't he have some redeeming quality? It's just too sad, but he can always cry into a 10-foot-tall bed of money I suppose.
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Posted Mar 22, 2012 @ 2:14 AM

I actually like all of them in one way or another...
-Fredrik has been very successful in the varied careers he has had ("actor", entrepreneur, programmer)
-Ryan was a soap star, hand model etc..
-Michael has a good education..

Sometimes I think Frederik is attracted to Ryan. Fredrik's sexual tension seems unrelieved.
Michael just want to please his dad, like many of us do.
Ryan is working hard to gain credibility, and he often has to overcome Fredrik.
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Posted Mar 22, 2012 @ 12:27 PM

I'm enjoying the serious, fast paced business aspect of these NY guys. Seems more professional than the California version. I like both versions, but the NY is my fave. In a previous episode (2nd?) Bravo tried to add the dating stuff and it was completely out of kilter to the rest of the show.

Keep it on the professional level, please. And I don't mean the professionals hired for the 'date' scenes.
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Posted Mar 22, 2012 @ 5:52 PM

Heaven help me, but I liked Fredrick, too. He totally seems to know what's up and is in on the joke. What a cutie. I thought it was sweet when he and the Swedish chef were singing together. The other two are meh. I found myself happy to see Fredrick's scenes, and I'll definitely tune in again.


He's growing on me. I appreciate he really does seem to be in on the joke. Plus, I liked when he answered the phone he referred to himself as Freddy. He's an odd duck for sure, but he's likable and oddly adorable. Michael, on the other hand, is just a dork. It's almost painful to watch. First we hear about his faulty veneers, his completely awkward date, and now we get his armpit botox? Really Bravo, cut the guy a break. What's next... chronic constipation issues?
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Posted Mar 23, 2012 @ 11:06 AM

They are all 3 gay IMO & there's nothing wrong with that. Fredrick is growing on me, he is mos def the best at what they do.
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Posted Mar 23, 2012 @ 11:25 AM

Ryan's gay? Not at least bi? I swore he was making inappropriate comments to his assistant about a woman he had dated the night before.
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