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[DMike]

Name inspired by swampy in the "On My Way" thread.

Anyways, how many more episodes until he inevitably joins the glee club? Unlike Irish, I haven't seen enough of the character to hate him on sight, but I saw enough of The Glee Project to see Samuel Larsen's Creepy-Rapeface-Stares-In-Lieu-Of-Emoting style of acting. Therefore, I'm in dread of more Dreads.

[natyxg]

I watched the glee project and I thought he would be worse, to be honest. At least he has more or less dropped the creepy, stalker stare.

Now it's more of a confused, stare, but more bearable. For me anyway.

[Lily Meadows]

Name inspired by swampy in the "On My Way" thread.

Let's hope the writers don't use erilyn's plot idea with Joe (from the "On My Way" thread):

I'd like to make another prediction - we won't get any (or at least not many) of these logical, organic interactions (assuming Quinn survives), but Jesus Boy from Glee Project will get multiple scenes with Quinn (and probably a serenade to her), where the power of him possessing a penis will enable him to inspire Quinn to survive/overcome/achieve/learn to love again/learn to love God again.

I don't know if they'll be able to resist the "healing cock" trope, especially since Joe doesn't have much of a personality to destroy yet. Of course, they could go the obvious route with Artie and Quinn, but if Joe is Quinn's guide, then we'll get to see how special and sweet he is.

[HanatheWreck]

Ok, I love the title of this thread so much its forced me out of lurkdom. Something about it is just brilliant and ludicrous.

I didn't actually know about The Glee Project until, like, last week (when I found out they are doing another one!) so I didn't really have any preconceptions about this guy. I was pretty much sold when he didn't instantly get drafted into New Directions, because it felt like the writers were at least trying to slowly blend him in. Glee generally lowers my expectations, so I take what I can get.

That being said, I've genuinely come to the conclusion that they are going to do exactly what erilyn said. I've actually kind of come to terms with it.

Frankly, both of those options are kind of rubbish sounding to me, Lily Meadows. I honestly don't know what I'd hate more - Quinn surviving and suddenly getting together with Artie because she's been disabled and thus finally understands him (because, of course, she couldn't before for some reason?) or her 'losing her religion' and being magic teen Jesus "healing cock"ed back to faith. I honestly don't know which one I find more offensive in that coin toss.

My hope is that we get a hurricaine of punny songs for this guy. Seriously, if we don't get 'Personal Jesus' at some point I'll be so disappointed in Glee.

Edited by HanatheWreck, Mar 7, 2012 @ 12:23 PM.

[northern eye]

Piling on a little to that, HanatheWreck, if Ryan Murphy knew what he was doing in selecting songs, he'd have Joe singing Jennifer Knapp classics like "Undo Me." Bonus points since Jennifer was part of a young Katy Hudson's music career back when she was a Contemporary Christian Music singer, before she turned to secular music, changed her name to Katy Perry, and got rich bringing the world such delights as "I Kissed A Girl."

What I do expect is a rousing version of "Day By Day" sung to Quinn. After all, the show was written by one of "the two Stephens"! Bonus points here: an ex-Warbler is in the current cast.

Edited by northern eye, Mar 7, 2012 @ 5:09 PM.

[whereismycastle]

I'm really glad they brought him in as a sophomore, because that means two more seasons of staring at him. He also gets extra points for singing disco


"When they perfect human cloning, I'm gonna order 12 of [him]."

[HanatheWreck]

Piling on a little to that, HanatheWreck, if Ryan Murphy knew what he was doing in selecting songs, he'd have Joe singing Jennifer Knapp classics like "Undo Me."

I've decided I wont be happy until we have at least one scene where everyone breaks into song and Joe's just sat there like 'Uhhh.... I don't know any of these songs...."
Get on it, Murphy.

That being said he probably will just skip past that logic problem instead of taking your good advice! At least a throw away line about someone lending him their iPod or something, please!

I'm really glad they brought him in as a sophomore, because that means two more seasons of staring at him. He also gets extra points for singing disco

I decided in my head that he just got straight on board with disco because he didn't have the stigma against it, which is awesome because I secretly love Disco.

Right there with you whereismycastle. I upgraded from 'positive' to 'a fan' after last week. His singing voice is total voice porn. (Is that a thing?)

[Lily Meadows]

Damn, Joe. You just had to pop a boner so that Quinn could feel it. This show.

[jessied112]

Ok, so the kid's not the best actor and I was strangely weirded out by his hair during the Sam/Joe scene but...the plus side is that his crazy eyes only came out a couple of times through the episode, which is good. I mean, I don't care for his character at all but he's not horribly bad.

[brothertonbanks]

I guess he puts his hair up to take a shower. That sure was a fugly mess. I didn't mind him until this episode, now I want his character to die in a fire. At least all that hair would be gone. If they continue the show with Glee Project people after the 30 year olds graduate, I hope they pick ones that can act.

[kcblue86]

I thought Joe looked pretty in his scenes with Quinn yesterday. Not sure how I feel about the actor or the character yet, but I was entranced by the pretty, so I'll give him a chance.

[Balderdash]

There is definitely something creepy about that guy. Also what is it with all the biblical tattoos they are expressly forbidden in Leviticus. I hope he just goes away eventually - definitely creepy like some lizard sizing up its next meal.

[HanatheWreck]

I really don't see the creepiness. I guess I find it hard to find a guy who's rolling around on a wheelie chair to sing a duet with a girl creepy, but I am a little dubious that the writers can handle the religion stuff well.

That ridiculous up-do was a work of art. It was absurdly distracting! That said, the hair's like... the least of my worries with him. I often find people see dreadlocks as unwashed/gross, but those things require so much maintenance and special soaps. I helped a friend put his in (much against my advice) and it's a lot more effort then most people put into their mops.

I'm still a fan of the character. Not so sure about his plot.

Edited by HanatheWreck, Apr 27, 2012 @ 12:11 AM.

[Sadie T]

Also what is it with all the biblical tattoos they are expressly forbidden in Leviticus.

And it also looked like he was wearing rosary beads, which you're not supposed to wear as jewelry... and since we don't see him using them to say the rosary then there's really no need for him to have them on. So seems like he has his own interpretation of things. I was actually a little surprised that he was wearing them because that implies he's Catholic, I'm not sure why exactly but judging by all the stereotypes they've thrown at us, I was assuming he was another denomination.

Edited by Sadie T, Apr 28, 2012 @ 1:51 AM.

[Lily Meadows]

And it also looked like he was wearing rosary beads, which you're not supposed to wear as jewelry... and since we don't see him using them to say the rosary then there's really no need for him to have them on. So seems like he has his own interpretation of things. I was actually a little surprised that he was wearing them because that implies he's Catholic, I'm not sure why exactly but judging by all the stereotypes they've thrown at us, I was assuming he was another denomination.

In Ryan Murphy land, all Christians are Catholic. Mercedes just goes to an AME Catholic church.

[northern eye]

Mercedes just goes to an AME Catholic church.

Snerk!

The decision to do the "woman tempts a righteous man into sin" trope has me wondering what the hell did Dianna Agron do to Ryan Murphy?

[thedullgirl]

I've seen rosaries sold as necklaces in jewelry kiosks, so I assumed it was some sort of trend the kids are into.

[northern eye]

I was kind of hoping they would do a "Quinn brings home a boy a boy her mom will hate just to prove her independence."

Sadly ...

[Rina99]

I'm still a fan of the character. Not so sure about his plot.

Yeah, this. Up until the last episode I thought the show did a lot better job integrating him into the cast than they did the Irish guy, but I have no faith in the writers' ability to handle this subject. Like, at all. I can only hope the character survives the ridiculousness they are going to throw at him.

[Fionnuala]

Also what is it with all the biblical tattoos they are expressly forbidden in Leviticus.

Most Christians regard Old Testament law as no longer being in affect after Jesus sacrificed himself. Unless, you know, they're trying to argue against homosexuality. So I don't think the tattoos are problematic for a modern Christian teenager. They're actually fairly common among the young Christians I know.

I've actually been pleasantly surprised with Joe's character so far. I'm ashamed to admit I watched the Glee Project, and Sam was one of my favorites, but I did have reservations about his stalker stare. He seems to have reigned it in a bit though and I think he's doing a pretty good job with what he's been given so far. He comes across a lot more natural than I expected, and I love his voice.

I am more concerned with whether the writers can handle his character and the plot they're setting him up for with Quinn. Also not sure how I feel about the way they're handling the whole home-schooler thing so far. I was home-schooled from 3rd grade until I graduated high school and I'm not a fan of the implications that Joe clearly couldn't have known girls before coming to school because, you know, home-schoolers only interact with their parents and have no life. I feel like it's unlikely the writers will handle his Christianity or home-schooled background without falling into silly stereotypes, which is too bad, because I think he could develop into a really interesting character. I guess we'll see.

[a finn gleek]

I think also that this dude has been a better addition than Rory, by a land slide. I don't like his healing penis all that much, because c'mon, but I don't find him completely pointless and I like him as a background character. Also, where I'm coming from home schooling simply doesn't exist, it's basically illegal, so it's fun for me to see a character like that. And I don't know any of the stereotypes involved in it so this is one aspect where I can't even whine about that.

Also, I actually like that Glee doesn't play that much with Christianity stereotypes. Normally this show takes one and runs with it, but the raligious characters seem blessedly normal. They may have the God squad and that joke about babtizing people against their will, but otherwise they don't seem that pushy.

[ficdirectory]

I really loved Samuel's take on Joe's lines in Some Nights. How he seemed angry, as opposed to celebratory like the rest of the cast. Watching the song, it seems as though Samuel performed the lyrics while many of the rest of the kids were performing to the music, if that makes sense. Suffice it to say that this really, really intrigued me about his character all over again.

[lmwilker]

I just caught up on the past two episodes of Glee and was so bummed that there was no Joe in either of them. Is he out with the Avian Flu?

Glee missed a real opportunity in this last episode IMO. Joe has ever really interacted and had somewhat of a (weak) storyline with Quinn and here is Quinn with no Joe. Underage drinking was shown and having Joe try to re-connect with Quinn only to have him wind up in a threesome with Quinn and Santana and all the angst that would follow. That would give Joe a storyline but no, all we have is RM by way of Brittany, bitch, whining about how Joe doesn't inspire him and he doesn't know how the character fits in. This is just RM being way lazy, I think.

I still adore Sam/Joe and hope for better things for him in the future, hopefully on Glee, though "better things" and "Glee" are somewhat oxymoronic anymore.

[swampy]

I just now noticed this character thread! I can't take all the credit for the subtitle, since I'm just stealing from Hamlet 2.

So anyway, this guy's still on the show, huh? I guess it's better than nothing for Sam, but I agree, it's weird that his character has zero interaction with Quinn when she's around, even though he was sorta kinda her boyfriend/healed her with his magic dick last season. At this rate someone could make a Glee spinoff detailing what Joe, Sugar, Mike Chang and the other Glee castoffs are doing while Jake and Marley make eyes at each other for the zillionth time.

Edited by swampy, Feb 25, 2013 @ 8:40 PM.