Edited by BDArizona, Jan 22, 2012 @ 8:20 PM.
S24: Greg "Tarzan"
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BDArizona
, Jan 22 2012 08:19 PM
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#1
Posted Jan 22, 2012 @ 8:19 PM
I don't know if this guy could make me hate him more. His bio is just chock full of paternalistic, patronizing crap about women. Between wanting to be like Coach Benjamin and loving Tarzan for being "manly" and "empathic toward the needs to women," it's almost like he set about creating someone I'd hate. What the hell does that even mean?
#2
Posted Jan 23, 2012 @ 2:48 AM
Agreed! I've got to tell you, it's hard to believe that Troy Robertson - whose pet peeve is "women with manly hands" and who's on Survivor because "I need to know dreams come true" - is not only not the douchiest guy on the season, he's not even the douchiest guy on the season who prefers to be called "Tarzan".
#3
Posted Feb 7, 2012 @ 5:22 PM
I want to see the retired cop kick his ass in the challenges. Then the two Tarzans could justify the defeat by blaming her "manly hands."
#4
Posted Mar 1, 2012 @ 7:57 PM
Greg seemed confused about how the game works, and I have the feeling he's teetering on the edge of sanity. The way he gives away the game every time he opens his mouth is bad news for everyone in an alliance with him.
#5
Posted Mar 2, 2012 @ 12:34 PM
I like this guy.
#6
Posted Mar 8, 2012 @ 12:28 AM
I can't believe this guy is a plastic surgeon. Having worked in the medical field, I shouldn't be surprised. I've met pretty of dumb doctors in my time, yet it always does surprise me.
#7
Posted Mar 8, 2012 @ 12:37 AM
I can't believe he was the biggest champion of Colton's idea tonight. What was he thinking?!
#8
Posted Mar 8, 2012 @ 7:47 AM
He's as big an idiot as Colton. And that's saying a lot.
#9
Posted Mar 8, 2012 @ 10:04 AM
I can only imagine that Turd-zan's constant unfailing support for Colton is because he wants to use Colton as his FTC goat.
All he's doing, though, is being the SECOND jerk that no one on the jury will ever vote for.
It's no wonder Troyzan has latched on to these two come hell or high water. In an FTC against them, there is no way he loses. In an FTC against anyone else, there is no way he wins.
Of course, pushing a plan to give away tribal immunity is a great way to ensure that you will never get near the final.
All he's doing, though, is being the SECOND jerk that no one on the jury will ever vote for.
It's no wonder Troyzan has latched on to these two come hell or high water. In an FTC against them, there is no way he loses. In an FTC against anyone else, there is no way he wins.
Of course, pushing a plan to give away tribal immunity is a great way to ensure that you will never get near the final.
#10
Posted Mar 8, 2012 @ 8:16 PM
I was willing to cut him a little bit of slack, but ... after this week's episode, not so much.
Talking down to Leif - in every sense of the word, that was tiresome enough. But his attitude toward the women just accumulates crud.
First off, in a season where they were told on Day One: "No rules!" he gets cranky when the women, who are way behind, look at the other tribe's completed puzzle. "Cheater! Cheater!" he yells. But when Probst not only does not validate that, but tells the women that is one way to check whether they are doing it right, Tarzan still makes with the "Cheater!" calls. Dumb.
At the coconut challenge, when he hit his panel, he gave a bit of a crow as he walked back to the mat. But when Kat did the same at either her own success or when the women won the challenge, he made ridiculing noises -- as if crowing over success was a stupid thing to do.
And he was the one that just called it "luck" that the women won. No, Greg, that would be actual aiming skill and determination that won that.
This is a man who apparently cannot conceive that a woman might be his peer at something, nevermind be more competent than he. It is not going to go well for him once he gets into mixed company (assuming he lasts in the game that long).
Talking down to Leif - in every sense of the word, that was tiresome enough. But his attitude toward the women just accumulates crud.
First off, in a season where they were told on Day One: "No rules!" he gets cranky when the women, who are way behind, look at the other tribe's completed puzzle. "Cheater! Cheater!" he yells. But when Probst not only does not validate that, but tells the women that is one way to check whether they are doing it right, Tarzan still makes with the "Cheater!" calls. Dumb.
At the coconut challenge, when he hit his panel, he gave a bit of a crow as he walked back to the mat. But when Kat did the same at either her own success or when the women won the challenge, he made ridiculing noises -- as if crowing over success was a stupid thing to do.
And he was the one that just called it "luck" that the women won. No, Greg, that would be actual aiming skill and determination that won that.
This is a man who apparently cannot conceive that a woman might be his peer at something, nevermind be more competent than he. It is not going to go well for him once he gets into mixed company (assuming he lasts in the game that long).
#11
Posted Mar 8, 2012 @ 9:14 PM
Is it me, or is his man-crush on Colton just plain creepy?
I could understand that he probably likes the guy because they probably had similar Southern white upper-class upbringings. But to enable him like that, f*ck!
As for him calling Jonas "Jason," sure he may be old, but since Survivor is a social game, don't you folks think that at the very least, you should be able to remember people's names, especially if they're in YOUR alliance?
Tar-shit = No chance to win.
I could understand that he probably likes the guy because they probably had similar Southern white upper-class upbringings. But to enable him like that, f*ck!
As for him calling Jonas "Jason," sure he may be old, but since Survivor is a social game, don't you folks think that at the very least, you should be able to remember people's names, especially if they're in YOUR alliance?
Tar-shit = No chance to win.
Edited by joeschmoe, Mar 8, 2012 @ 9:14 PM.
#12
Posted Mar 8, 2012 @ 9:56 PM
I was not a huge fan, but at least I thought he was somewhat entertaining, but after his comments at tribal that showed his true colors and what a bigot he is, I hope he is not long for the show..only Colton can go first, just because he's an all around asshole, and Tarzan is only a little better, nothing but an apologist for racism..and denying it exists! What garbage!
#13
Posted Mar 8, 2012 @ 11:05 PM
I started out hating "TarZAN", and then he grew on me, and then he lost me again. But I feel compelled to defend him on a few things:
1. He's 64, playing a game where the decrepit old guy who can't keep up with the others is usually a)., voted out first, and b)., 38. There are worse strategies than tying yourself to the power player of your alliance, especially when that power player is batshit crazy and wil turn on whoever looks at him the wrong way.
2. I don't agree that no men will vote for him, especially if you accept the read that the whole "BAD Leif" routine was a put-on that Leif was in on, meant to trick Bill to go to TC.
3. How many men's votes does he need? Go to F3 with Colton and Troyzan - both of whom have been much more annoying and sexist to the women than TarZAN has - and a jury made up largely of women, and he wins.
4. Re: "Jason" - yes, it was dumb to not know the name of an alliancemate. But it was way less dumb than, say, Brian Heidik not knowing the name of the person he'd spent the whole last episode trying to flip, It's survivable.
I still, on balance, don't like him - but I think he's a much better Survivor player than he is a human being.
1. He's 64, playing a game where the decrepit old guy who can't keep up with the others is usually a)., voted out first, and b)., 38. There are worse strategies than tying yourself to the power player of your alliance, especially when that power player is batshit crazy and wil turn on whoever looks at him the wrong way.
2. I don't agree that no men will vote for him, especially if you accept the read that the whole "BAD Leif" routine was a put-on that Leif was in on, meant to trick Bill to go to TC.
3. How many men's votes does he need? Go to F3 with Colton and Troyzan - both of whom have been much more annoying and sexist to the women than TarZAN has - and a jury made up largely of women, and he wins.
4. Re: "Jason" - yes, it was dumb to not know the name of an alliancemate. But it was way less dumb than, say, Brian Heidik not knowing the name of the person he'd spent the whole last episode trying to flip, It's survivable.
I still, on balance, don't like him - but I think he's a much better Survivor player than he is a human being.
#14
Posted Mar 9, 2012 @ 12:55 AM
He's 64, playing a game where the decrepit old guy who can't keep up with the others is usually a)., voted out first, and b)., 38. There are worse strategies than tying yourself to the power player of your alliance, especially when that power player is batshit crazy and wil turn on whoever looks at him the wrong way.
I don't really see Tarzan aligning with Colton because of that. He seems more to me like someone who's in awe of the guy and latches on to him rather than for strategic reason.
I don't agree that no men will vote for him, especially if you accept the read that the whole "BAD Leif" routine was a put-on that Leif was in on, meant to trick Bill to go to TC.
I'm sure that in any Final Tribal, beyond, say, Colton or Alicia, I can't really see him winning to anyone else. Smells to me like a Tocantins Coach. In other words, a spacey whack-job without any charm whatsoever.
How many men's votes does he need? Go to F3 with Colton and Troyzan - both of whom have been much more annoying and sexist to the women than TarZAN has - and a jury made up largely of women, and he wins.
In that case, I'm sure the votes are gonna go to Troy. Colton's gonna be too unlikeable and see the above comment for Greg. Troy seems like a normal and rational guy compared to the two and I wouldn't see anyone particularly having a problem with giving him the win.
Re: "Jason" - yes, it was dumb to not know the name of an alliancemate. But it was way less dumb than, say, Brian Heidik not knowing the name of the person he'd spent the whole last episode trying to flip, It's survivable.
Thing was, Survivor was still at its early stages the time Heidik won. That's okay then, when the way to win hasn't been solidly formed. Nowadays, with that crud, you just come off as an inconsiderate, clueless dolt.
#15
Posted Mar 9, 2012 @ 2:46 AM
I'll give Greg a slightly different pass on this issue. The names Jonas and Jason are at least anagrams of each other, and Greg may have a form of dyslexia. Or he could just be shit with names.Re: "Jason" - yes, it was dumb to not know the name of an
alliancemate.
At least he didn't call Jonas something like "Dave", or "Hey You".
#16
Posted Mar 9, 2012 @ 10:09 AM
Eh, I don't like the guy, but I'll give him a pass on the name thing. If he hasn't really interacted with Jonas that much, and it appears that maybe he's mostly hanging out with Troy I think, it's easy to get a name mixed up. I'm 60, and I have a hard time getting my own name straight some days.
#17
Posted Mar 9, 2012 @ 11:31 AM
Maybe he is gay as well and thats why he gives Colton a pass.
#18
Posted Mar 15, 2012 @ 10:29 AM
His "I shant say, Jeff, for the game is afoot"
Makes me root for him.
Makes me root for him.
#19
Posted Mar 29, 2012 @ 11:14 AM
I think Tarzan doth protest too much about the 'dirt' in his underwear. That was kinda gross.
One thing though, he's interesting to watch. You never know what he'll do or say next.
One thing though, he's interesting to watch. You never know what he'll do or say next.
#20
Posted Mar 29, 2012 @ 3:44 PM
Well, we have our replacement villain now that Colton's gone. At least he's not as bad as Colton, though.
#21
Posted Mar 29, 2012 @ 7:35 PM
Give him time.
#22
Posted Mar 29, 2012 @ 8:01 PM
*sigh* I am.
#23
Posted Mar 29, 2012 @ 8:39 PM
From Eliza's recap:
So... yeah.
Tarzan gets into it with Jonas and Tarzan says “I’m sick of your Asian face.” Seriously. It may have been edited out of the broadcast, but Jeff Probst tweeted that that was the line
So... yeah.
#24
Posted Mar 30, 2012 @ 9:35 AM
No wonder he thought that Colton was getting an unfair shake. He's just as bigoted as Colton, and he didn't like the way the light was being shined on him as a result of Jeff poking at Colton. I had a sense from the moment he spoke up at TC that race should be a non-factor since Obama is president that Greg was one of those idiots who quickly resorts to bigotry and racism all while protesting "but racism is a thing of the past!"
#25
Posted Mar 31, 2012 @ 7:45 AM
I tried to give him the benefit of the doubt, given his problems with words, but add his clumsy "defense" of Colton to his nasty remarks directed at both Christina and Jonas, and it's hard to come to any conclusion other than, yeah, Tarzan's a racist.
#26
Posted Mar 31, 2012 @ 2:59 PM
His "I shant say, Jeff, for the game is afoot"
Makes me root for him.
His thwarting of Peachy at TC is very much the only thing he's done or said that I liked.
It's too bad when there are 2 or 3 goats in a season. You know one of these obnoxious twits is going to be dragged to FTC.
#27
Posted Apr 7, 2012 @ 2:14 AM
I was a bit thunderstruck at his approach to Chelsea, and his super-lamo attempt reach an appeasement with her.
There's an incredible amount of ego on his part that makes him think that she might not have reason to dislike him (hello? tossing your dirty laundry - no matter what sort of "dirty" it was - on top of her much cleaner laundry?). No, it must be because she dislikes his profession. And then not believing her when she tells him that has nothing to do with it.
He comes across as someone who thinks he's very good at reading people's psychology. And he sucks at it, because his own ego gets in the way.
I would have actually liked to see how the school-yard pick for the reward challenge went down. Was it everyone chosen alternately by a designated "captain" or was it last person added makes the next choice? Either way, it's a "rub his nose in it" element that he wasn't chosen at all. Admittedly a very physical challenge that he would have sucked at, but still.... Not wanted.
There's an incredible amount of ego on his part that makes him think that she might not have reason to dislike him (hello? tossing your dirty laundry - no matter what sort of "dirty" it was - on top of her much cleaner laundry?). No, it must be because she dislikes his profession. And then not believing her when she tells him that has nothing to do with it.
He comes across as someone who thinks he's very good at reading people's psychology. And he sucks at it, because his own ego gets in the way.
I would have actually liked to see how the school-yard pick for the reward challenge went down. Was it everyone chosen alternately by a designated "captain" or was it last person added makes the next choice? Either way, it's a "rub his nose in it" element that he wasn't chosen at all. Admittedly a very physical challenge that he would have sucked at, but still.... Not wanted.
#28
Posted Apr 12, 2012 @ 8:48 PM
Did anyone else see that he voted for Jay?! Has he always been aligned with the women?
Edited by Dick, Apr 12, 2012 @ 8:48 PM.
#29
Posted Apr 12, 2012 @ 9:10 PM
No, I don't think so. I guess Kim or one of the other ladies just got him to agree to it.
#30
Posted Apr 12, 2012 @ 9:30 PM
It's also possible he saw the writing on the wall (he hinted as much at TC), and realized there was no point in throwing his hat in with the misfits who couldn't seem to get their act together. He may just be trying to buy time while Troy and Leif get booted, hoping that either he's a juicy Goat or that the women's alliance will start to fracture while he's still in the game, and he can somehow exploit that.
I don't think he's dumb at all, I just really don't like his attitude.
I don't think he's dumb at all, I just really don't like his attitude.
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